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Dec 14, 2009, 10:59:09 AM12/14/09
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Postdoctoral positions as posted on "PostdocJobs.com" website:

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Requires a PhD in aerospace engineering, mechanical engineering,
applied mathematics, or closely related field; in-depth experience in
computation fluid dynamics (CFD) or related disciplines; proven
expertise in Fortran coding design; and experience with a commercial
CFD code (e.g. Fluent).

For more information, please visit:

http://www.postdocjobs.com/jobs/jobdetail.php?jobid=4006625

Me, ...again!

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:29:46 PM12/14/09
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Postdoc.com wrote:

> Postdoctoral positions as posted on "PostdocJobs.com" website:
>
> ----------
> Requires a PhD in aerospace engineering, mechanical engineering,
> applied mathematics, or closely related field; in-depth experience in

^^^^^^^^^^

> computation fluid dynamics (CFD) or related disciplines; proven

^^^^^^^^

> expertise in Fortran coding design; and experience with a commercial

^^^^^^^^^^^

...all that for a low-paid, low-benefits, low job security _postdoc_ job?

BMJ

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:48:26 PM12/14/09
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Me, ...again! wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Postdoc.com wrote:
>
>> Postdoctoral positions as posted on "PostdocJobs.com" website:
>>
>> ----------
>> Requires a PhD in aerospace engineering, mechanical engineering,
>> applied mathematics, or closely related field; in-depth experience in
> ^^^^^^^^^^
>> computation fluid dynamics (CFD) or related disciplines; proven
> ^^^^^^^^
>
>> expertise in Fortran coding design; and experience with a commercial
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> ...all that for a low-paid, low-benefits, low job security _postdoc_ job?

It sounds like they're looking for someone with aerospace or automotive
experience as those are two industries that would use CFD. The outfit
might be picking over those recently canned due to the recession. If so,
it might figure that whoever they hire might leave when the economy picks
up again.

Old Pif

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Dec 14, 2009, 6:51:31 PM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 2:48 pm, BMJ <owlstretchingt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Me, ...again! wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Postdoc.com wrote:
>
> >> Postdoctoral positions as posted on "PostdocJobs.com" website:
>
> >> ----------
> >> Requires a PhD in aerospace engineering, mechanical engineering,
> >> applied mathematics, or closely related field; in-depth experience in
> >                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^
> >> computation fluid dynamics (CFD) or related disciplines; proven
> >                                                           ^^^^^^^^
>
> >> expertise in Fortran coding design; and experience with a commercial
> >  ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > ...all that for a low-paid, low-benefits, low job security  _postdoc_ job?
>
> It sounds like they're looking for someone with aerospace or automotive
> experience as those are two industries that would use CFD.  The outfit
> might be picking over those recently canned due to the recession.  If so,
> it might figure that whoever they hire might leave when the economy picks
> up again.
>

Actually, it might be a good position for a retired person. I would
apply in some years ...

BMJ

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:01:09 PM12/14/09
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Nah. You'd be too old. There wouldn't be a "fit".

Old Pif

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:14:14 PM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 7:01 pm, BMJ <owlstretchingt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > Actually, it might be a good position for a retired person. I would
> > apply in some years ...
>
> Nah.  You'd be too old.  There wouldn't be a "fit".
>

I think that would be a mistake on their part.

In general, this type of positions cries for independent people with
some means to live on and to work out of sheer curiosity. I am
thinking that perhaps one day they recall that most of the XIX century
science had been accomplished by aristocrats who were simply bored to
death. Why the hell a qualified retiree would volunteer for community
service when he can get some fun for symbolic money? I expect this
happens sooner or later when China will pay their people decent amount
to stay home and here hardly any young person would be tricked
anymore.

Me, ...again!

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:25:29 PM12/14/09
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Hmmmm..... maybe _I_ should apply....and then tell all you guys how I
never got called for even an interview?

Old Pif

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:28:59 PM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 7:25 pm, "Me, ...again!" <arthu...@mv.com> wrote:

>
> Hmmmm..... maybe _I_ should apply....and then tell all you guys how I
> never got called for even an interview?
>

Why? If you craft your resume carefully ... But then you can sue them
for age discrimination. Couple of millions would be a great help.

Me, ...again!

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:32:07 PM12/14/09
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How about when MIT (etc) sets up MIT-China campus? Harvard sets up
Harvard-China campus?

I know, for example, that Johns Hopkins (and several other famous
universities) have branches in other lands.

and here hardly any young person would be tricked
> anymore.

It is funny that today's WSJ has an article on default rates for kids
coming out of "private schools". Everest College (which has lots of
campuses) was graduating kids with degrees based on the kids getting loans
and the default rates on the loans were way up there, like 30-40% or
something like that, all because the kids really were not learning
anything (and the schools didn't care) and could not find jobs. Story was
that the schools were just interested in cash flow. What a racket, eh?

They compared this data with "public schools" (i.e. state colleges) where
the default rate on loans for education was much lower.

It's crazy.

BMJ

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Dec 14, 2009, 8:04:56 PM12/14/09
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Old Pif wrote:
> On Dec 14, 7:01 pm, BMJ <owlstretchingt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Actually, it might be a good position for a retired person. I would
>>> apply in some years ...
>> Nah. You'd be too old. There wouldn't be a "fit".
>>
>
> I think that would be a mistake on their part.
>
> In general, this type of positions cries for independent people with
> some means to live on and to work out of sheer curiosity.

Not really. Many of those positions want confirmity. Despite advertising
for all sorts of brilliance, experience, and skills, most applicants are
already out of the running because the employers already know who they
want. Any interviews that may result are merely window dressing and are
held only to conform to some sort of regulation or legislation.

I am
> thinking that perhaps one day they recall that most of the XIX century
> science had been accomplished by aristocrats who were simply bored to
> death. Why the hell a qualified retiree would volunteer for community
> service when he can get some fun for symbolic money?

A retiree working for a firm for money? Are you kidding? These outfits
what their expertise for *free* as they feel they are owed that.

BMJ

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Dec 14, 2009, 8:06:10 PM12/14/09
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An age discrimination lawsuit will never come about. The employer will
find some other reason to turn him down.

BMJ

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Dec 14, 2009, 8:08:14 PM12/14/09
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And to cover the defaults, the alumni are called for donations. How else
do these places manage to stay solvent?

Me, ...again!

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:56:03 PM12/14/09
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Old Pif wrote:

It would be fun, however, to send in some fake resumes with a fake Indian
name, H1-b history, etc., and hint that I'd work for cheap, maybe a bowl
of rice per day, eh?

Me, ...again!

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:58:51 PM12/14/09
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Age discrimination is very very hard to prove, and plaintiffs are usually
broke, anyway.

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