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I wanted to post about Vestibular Disorders (aka Cerebellar-Vestibular
Dysfunction,inner ear problems) which have symptoms that overlap with
Dyspraxia,Dyslexia,AD/HD,Auditory Processing Disorder,and especially
sensory integration disorder

Vestibular disorders in children are generally considered uncommon.
They are not as easily recognized as vestibular disorders in adults,
in part because children cannot describe their symptoms as well.

Symptoms and signs that may indicate vestibular dysfunction in
children include developmental and reflex delays, visual-spatial
problems, hearing loss, tinnitus, motion sensitivity, abnormal
movement patterns, clumsiness, decreased eye-hand and eye-foot
coordination, ataxia, falls, nystagmus, seizures, dizziness, nausea,
ear pressure, difficulty moving in the dark, behavioral changes, and/
or delays in performance of developmental activities such as riding a
bicycle, hopping, and stair climbing involving alternating left-right
leg movements.
http://www.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/specific-disorders/pediatric-vest.-disorders.php

(developmental delays,visual-spatial problems,abnormal movement
patterns,clumsiness,decreased eye-hand and eye-foot
coordination,developmental delays, difficulty moving in the
dark,behavioral changes,falls,and delays in performance of
developmental activities seem to fit right in with Dyspraxia).....I
had all those problems except for visual spatial problems because I
have visual spatial strengths of Dyslexia

Possible Symptoms of Vestibular Disorders

The human balance system depends on the inner ear, the eyes, and the
muscles and joints to transmit reliable information about the body's
movement and orientation in space. If the inner ear or other elements
of the balance system are damaged, the result may be vertigo,
dizziness, imbalance, and other symptoms.

The human balance system depends on the inner ear, the eyes, and the
muscles and joints to transmit reliable information about the body's
movement and orientation in space. If the inner ear or other elements
of the balance system are damaged, the result may be vertigo,
dizziness, imbalance, and other symptoms.

With vestibular disorders, the type and severity of symptoms can vary
considerably. Symptoms can be frightening and difficult to describe.
People affected by certain symptoms of vestibular disorders may be
perceived as inattentive, lazy, overly anxious, or seeking attention.
They may have trouble reading or doing simple arithmetic. Functioning
in the workplace, going to school, performing routine daily tasks, or
just getting out of bed in the morning may be difficult for some
people.

The following is a list of symptoms that have been reported by people
with vestibular disorders. Not all symptoms will be experienced by
every person with an inner ear disorder, and other symptoms are
possible. An inner ear disorder may be present even in the absence of
obvious or severe symptoms. It is important to note that most of these
individual symptoms can also be caused by other conditions, unrelated
to the ear.

(I only listed the symptoms that fit with neurodivergent
conditions........so I left some out....I could be wrong too because
maybe some of the other symptoms fit with neurodivergent
conditions)....not that they said that an inner ear disorder may be
present even in the absense of obvious or severe symptoms....so
vestibular disorder can easily be undiagnosed,misdiagnosed due to lack
of apparent symptoms suggesting a vestibular disorder....especially if
they only focus on problems with balance...also if there is talk about
problems with the inner ear,many people will just associate that with
only hearing problems. a lot of people think that ear is only for
hearing but don't know about it being important for balance.
Cerebellum,part of the brain,is important for balance too.)


Vision Symptoms of Vestibular Disorder

* Trouble focusing or tracking objects with the eyes; objects or
words on a page seem to jump, bounce, float, or blur or may appear
doubled
* sensitivity to light, glare, and moving or flickering lights;
fluorescent lights may be especially troublesome
http://www.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/symptoms.php

(They fit with the visual processing issues of Scotopic Sensitivity
and Visual Dyslexia.......My problems are in tracking objects with
the eyes, sensitivity to light,glare,and moving or flickering
lights,flouresecent lights may be especially troublesome, but it's not
the point that my vision is distorted)


Hearing Symptoms of Vestibular Disorder

* Hearing loss; distorted or fluctuating hearing
* Sensitivity to loud noises or environments
http://www.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/symptoms.php

(They fit the auditory processing issues of Auditory Processing
Disorder and Auditory Dyslexia)....I have a history of distorted
hearing(auditory reversals that have been corrected through auditory
therapy), mishear words at times) and have problems with sensitivity
to loud noises or environments,but it doesn't lead to pain but an
audiological tester asked me if I need earplugs when I go to bed, I
wore headphones while I was working with sandpaper that my navy
coworkers looked at me like I was weird)


Cognitive and psychological Symptoms of Vestibular Disorder

* Difficulty concentrating and paying attention; easily distracted
* Forgetfulness and short-term memory lapses
* Confusion, disorientation, difficulty comprehending directions
or instructions
* Difficulty following speakers in conversations, meetings, etc.,
especially when there is background noise or movement
* Mental and/or physical fatigue out of proportion to activity
* Loss of self-reliance, self-confidence, self-esteem
* Anxiety, panic
* Depression
http://www.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/symptoms.php

(Every single one of those symptoms can be symptoms of psychiatric
disorders including even psychotic disorders)

(Difficulty concentrating and paying attention,easily distracted fit
with AD/HD......I have all those issues...Fish/Cod Liver Oil helps me
(Forgetfulness and short term memory lapses fit with
ADHD,Dyspraxia)...........I have all those issues.....Fish/Cod Liver
Oil helps me
Confusion,disorientation,difficulty comprehending directions or
instructions fit with Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,AD/HD)....I have all those
issues
Difficulty following speakers in conversations,meetings,etc,especially
when there is background noise or movement fits with Auditory
Processing Disorder,Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and AD/HD).....I have all those
issues

(Mental and/or physical fatigure out proportion to activity, loss of
self reliance,self confidence,self esteem are emotional fallout of
learning disorders and AD/HD)......I have a history of those issues
since my special education days

(Anxiety,panic fits with Anxiety Disorders,Avoidant Personality
Disorder)....I have those issues
(Depression fits with Depression Disorders)....I have those issues
(both can be emotional fallout of learning disorders and AD/
HD).....That's definitely true in my case


Other

* Motion sickness
* Sensation of fullness in the ears
* Headaches
* Slurred speech
* Sensitivity to pressure or temperature changes and wind currents

(sensitivity to pressure or temperature changes and wind
currents,headaches,slurred speech could fit in with neurodivergent
conditions)...I can relate to motion sickness,headaches, and
sensitivity to pressure or temperature changes and wind currents

After reading Dr. Levinson's books on cerebellar vestibular
dysfunction which seems pretty much all about vestibular disorders and
he trying to connect them to learning disorders and AD/HD,I am
starting to believe that a vestibular disorder could be a cause of
Dyspraxic,Dyslexic,other Learning Disorders,AD/HD symptoms. I don't
believe that vestibular disorder causes all cases of Dyspraxia,
Dyslexia,other learning disorders,nor AD/HD, and so that's where I
disagree with Dr. Levinson. I also believe that the vestibular
disorder could be a co-existing disorder with learning disorder and AD/
HD. In 2005, Dr. Levinson's testing showed that I have vestibular
disorder,and so he diagnosed me as having cerebellar vestibular
dysfunction. I had a severe ear infection when I was 3 months old. I
have a history of balance and coordination problems. At 4 years old,I
was examined by neurologist because of those issues and brain damage
was ruled out. In 2006,Veteran Affairs neurologists confirmed that I
have an abnormal cerebellar system. After neuropsyche testing that
concluded that I have learning problems, they confirmed that I have
Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. It was Dr. Levinson's testing that I took to
the neurologists to get me tested.

My Cerebellar Vestibular Dysfunction Diagnosis
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=Dr_Levinson_exam_000

My Diagnosis of Dyslexia,Dyspraxia by Veteran Affairs Neurology
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=Veteran_Affairs_Neurology_Assessment_and_Follow_Up_007

My Diagnoses of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder Inattentive
Type, Generalized Anxiety Disorder,Dysthymic Disorder,and Avoidant
Personality Disorder
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=LD_ADHD_Assessment_005

Dr. Levinson uses the same testing as doctors that test for vestibular
disorder including electronystagmography (ENG which include Rotation
tests, Computerized Dynamic Posturography (CDP),and Speech audiometry
tests on me.
He didn't use a 3D Optokinetic scanner for me because I told him that
I didn't have visual processing Dyslexic problems but auditory
processing Dyslexic problems. He tested me with a 3D auditory scanner
which measures auditory blurring,and the instrument capable of
speeding up a series of clear sounds until they could no longer be
distinguished, with and without an interfering background,thus
establishing the auditory blurring speed. He also conducted
neurological tests which are exactly the same type of tests that are
used to test for intoxication in drivers suspected to be drunk. Maybe
intoxication impairs the cerebellar-vestibular system. I was very
abnormal overall on the Cerebellar Dysfunction/Neurological Testing.
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=Dr_Levinson_exam_003
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=Dr_Levinson_exam_002

Confirmation of Abnormal Cerebellar System by Veteran Affairs
Neurologists
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=Veteran_Affairs_Neurology_Assessment_and_Follow_Up_002

Testing for Vestibular Disorder
http://www.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/diagnostic-tests.php

Testing for Dyslexic Syndrome
http://www.levinsonmedical.com/information/testing.html

Dr. Levinson prescribed me Meclizine( aka Antivert,an antihistamine
that is used for vestibular disorders and is available in drug stores
without a prescription) and recommended Ginkgo,DMAE,Lecithin,and
Piracetam.
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=Dr_Levinson_exam_004

Symptoms of Vestibular Disorder
http://www.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/symptoms.php

Dr. Levinson's list of Symptoms of Dyslexic Syndrome that are obvious
symptoms of vestibular disorder
http://www.levinsonmedical.com/information/syndrome.html

Symptoms of Dyspraxia
http://www.ncld.org/content/view/466/391/
http://www.dyspraxiausa.org/symptoms_of_dyspraxia.html
http://www.dyspraxiausa.org/adult_symptoms.html


I want to reiterate that vestibular disorders don't cause all nor most
cases of learning disorders nor ADHD. I believe that they can cause
many cases of them though. I also believe that the vestibular disorder
can co-exist with learning disorders and AD/HD. Another thing is that
Ronald D. Davis mentions that disorientation,confusion are strongly
connected to learning disorders and AD/HD in his book,GIFT OF
DYSLEXIA. The thing is that disorientation,confusion are symptoms of
vestibular disorder too.
Also Dore uses exercises to treat cerebellar dysfunction which he
believes is root of learning disorders and AD/HD. Exercise program is
also implemented to treat vestibular disorder.


Vestibular Disorder therapy
http://ww.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/treatment/vestibular-rehab.php

Ronald D. Davis Theory of Dyslexia where he talks about disorientation/
confusion
http://www.dyslexia.com/library/davistheory.htm

Dore
http://www.dorecenters.com/how.aspx


I just want to say that I don't believe that nobody has all the
answers to problems in life. That goes the same with people who have
answers to the neurodivergent conditions. There could be right in
some things and wrong in others. There can be many roots to a
problem,and so there can be many solutions to a problem. I always feel
that it's always good to look at numerous views of things whether they
are believed to be right or wrong. Many things can seem controversial
to people if it doesn't fit with mainstream views. However,many views
that were controversial are mainsteam today. Jesus' teachings were
seen as highly controversial,and he was rejected by many Jewish
religious leaders and crucified. Now his teachings are mainstream with
Christianity being one of the major world religions.


Raymond Andrews

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