Worthwhile web sites
PsycProf
these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
psychology.
>Check out my web pages.
>On one I point up what clients should watch out for and
>insist on. I describe how the profession could be
>better. And, on the other web page you will find the absolute best
>list of hot-buttoned resources you could ever find.
>I recommend them for all:
>
>http://www.future.net/~bradj/it.html
>
>and
>
>http://www.future.net/~bradj/father.html
>
>
Jamie E. Eimermann
PsycProf <NoE...@please.okay> wrote:
>I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list . I checked
>these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
>recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
>psychology.
Brad, we know you're not a professor, so please stop calling yourself
one.
Jamie
Cognitee
I did not make that post and there is no evidence I did. Will you
quit harassing EVERYONE who agrees with me?? Grow up !!!
This is a PERFECT example of how EVERYONE that agrees with me is
attacked. There will likely be more attacks on this person. There is
ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE for any aligations that "PsycProf" is me. NONE.
***In fact***, there is clear evidence he/she is NOT me -- see the
headers, it IS NOT FROM ANY SERVER I POST FROM.
I apologize to PsycProf for the rude treatment of the mindless,
inconsiderate thugs he will encounter here.
John M Price
: Jamie,
: I did not make that post and there is no evidence I did. Will you
Yes you did.
Everyone knows it.
How does it feel to be so stupid and inept?
--
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Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or by finger!
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- 1Thes5:21
Mark Morin
>
> I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list . I checked
> these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
> recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
> psychology.
Hi brad.
And there's no way in hell you are a professor.
--
===========================================================
It is not that we fear the place of darkness but that we
don't think we are worth the effort to find the place of
light.
Hugh Prather
http://members.xoom.com/mmorin
Dan Rogers
recommend them to your students.
PsycProf wrote in message <36004...@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us>...
>I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list . I checked
>these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
>recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
>psychology.
You are fut! bradnee.
Dan Rogers
Cognitee wrote in message <36004D...@hotmail.com>...
>Jamie,
> I did not make that post and there is no evidence I did. Will you
>quit harassing EVERYONE who agrees with me??
Of course it was you, dummy!! And everybody knows it.
You are a fut!!
>This is a PERFECT example of how EVERYONE that agrees with me is
>attacked.
You are correct. Everyone who agrees with you is attacked. It is also
correct that only you are attacked.
You are the only everyone who agrees with you. Sheesh! You are so
dumb, you think everybody else is just as dumb!! What a fut!
Daniel L. Snyder
>Jamie,
> I did not make that post and there is no evidence I did. Will you
>quit harassing EVERYONE who agrees with me?? Grow up !!!
>This is a PERFECT example of how EVERYONE that agrees with me is
>attacked. There will likely be more attacks on this person. There is
>ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE for any aligations that "PsycProf" is me. NONE.
>***In fact***, there is clear evidence he/she is NOT me -- see the
>headers, it IS NOT FROM ANY SERVER I POST FROM.
> I apologize to PsycProf for the rude treatment of the mindless,
>inconsiderate thugs he will encounter here.
>
>Jamie E. Eimermann wrote:
>>
>> In article <36004...@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us>,
>> PsycProf <NoE...@please.okay> wrote:
>> >I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list . I checked
>> >these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
>> >recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
>> >psychology.
>>
>> Brad, we know you're not a professor, so please stop calling yourself
>> one.
>>
>> Jamie
The fact is, the only "evidence" you would ever accept, is a notarized
letter from yourself, testifying your own admission to the allegation
(e.g., I, Bradley L. Jesness, admit that I wrote the post submitted by
.... [fill in the blank for alleged sock-puppet of the day]).
The fact is, no one is going to believe you have actual support until
these alleged supporters begin to sign their real names and provide real,
verifiable email addresses. At a minimum, these so-called supporters
appear to lack the courage of their convictions. You may claim that they
fear harassment - but no person of integrity has any reason to fear the
truth. People of true character are willing to accept the consequences of
taking a public stand for their beliefs, values, etc. As evidence, I
would cite the historical record of religious martyrs, Civil Rights
workers, early scientists such as Copernicus, etc.
Indeed, the people who really things in this world are both willing to
stand for their beliefs, and to engage others in dialoge. Dialogue -
meaning actually listening to, and considering the ideas of others - even
to the point of admitting when the other side has a point, or that one
does not have all the answers (neither of these necessarily requiring
abandoning your position, at least entirely). This is called humility.
Integrity and humility - a powerfully effective combination.
Yet you whine about the so-called harassment you have received. I am not
saying that you have not received some harassment. But the whining?
You've just forfeited on the integrity issue.
Many, if not most, of the people I have read on this list, have at one
time or another, conceded that you have at least some good points (viz a
viz your criticisms of Clinical Psychology - the substantive issue, not
the pathetic mind-game stuff). Have you ever conceded a point on the
substantive issues discussed on this group or somehow communicated
publicly to another that they may have a point? If so, I for one, would
certainly like to see evidence. (And if it exists, please repost it -
don't tell me to check DejaNews - the burden is on you. If it does exist,
I will certainly be happy to be proven wrong.
Yet you whine that people don't take you seriously - requiring that to do
so, they must agree with you 100%. All the while calling an entire
profession "hacks" and other similar derogatory terms, apparently never
conceding anything.
You've just forfeited on the humility issue.
I am not out to make you look "bad". People arrive at their own
conclusions about others based on the testimony of their behavior. Like
the X-Files: "The truth is out there". The truth that people see is your
behavior - any potential intellectual truth you may have to offer is
generally hidden by the same.
--
Husband, Father, Licensed Psychologist, Doctoral Student . . . Tired
Center for Christian Psychological Services, P.A.
2233 Hamline Avenue North, Suite 435
St. Paul, MN 55113 office 612.633.5290 pager 612.613.0940
Nancy Alvarado
>these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
>recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
>psychology.
>
As the saying goes:
Two weeks ago I could hardily spell psykologyst. Now I are one.
Nancy
DMEncinas
I don't doubt that there are some who support your views, I have in fact agreed
with a few of them.
However, I find it incomprehensible that so many of your supporters refuse to
reveal who they actually are (ie. False names etc.)
In the last two months I can only count a total of five people who agreed with
your stated views, and they declined to get involved with your more abusive
threads.
I challenge any who agree with your postings wherein you become abusive to
publicly state so (complete with return address).
Dave
Primum Non Nocere
Hippocrates
Dave
Primum Non Nocere
Hippocrates
Joseph P. Arco
>
> Jamie,
> I did not make that post and there is no evidence I did.
" hardily " !
> Will you
> quit harassing EVERYONE who agrees with me??
Correction, it should be " hardily " everyone.
> Grow up !!!
> This is a PERFECT example of how EVERYONE that agrees with me is
> attacked. There will likely be more attacks on this person. There is
> ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE for any aligations that "PsycProf" is me. NONE.
> ***In fact***, there is clear evidence he/she is NOT me -- see the
> headers, it IS NOT FROM ANY SERVER I POST FROM.
" hardily " !
> I apologize to PsycProf for the rude treatment of the mindless,
> inconsiderate thugs he will encounter here.
Bradley now attempts to get support by apologizing to himself. ...Way to
go, Brad!
>
> Jamie E. Eimermann wrote:
> >
> > In article <36004...@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us>,
> > PsycProf <NoE...@please.okay> wrote:
> > >I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list . I checked
> > >these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
> > >recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
> > >psychology.
> >
Cognitee
Your response sounds nice, but in no way reflects reality.
(1) I never imagined that I would be abused in every conceivable
way (and more than most could imagine), ever since I posted my
views here non-anonymously. Based on this, it is simply not
fair to oneslef to express unpopular views here and not be
anonymous.
(2) The "professional" response to the views I have expressed here and
on my web page (http://www.future.net/~bradj/it.html) has
NEVER been reasonable much less fair. In short you are the
"pot calling the kettle black" as the say. It is you that cannot
agree with clear facts or respond to clear issues (THIS IS MUCH
MORE *YOUR* PROBLEM THAN MINE).
I intend to leave this uncivil, uncaring, abusive newsgroup, where
professionals obviously care mainly about themselves and anything
they like to do or want to do more than they care for either clients or
science.
Daniel L. Snyder wrote:
>
> In article <36004D...@hotmail.com>, good...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >Jamie,
> > I did not make that post and there is no evidence I did. Will you
> >quit harassing EVERYONE who agrees with me?? Grow up !!!
> >This is a PERFECT example of how EVERYONE that agrees with me is
> >attacked. There will likely be more attacks on this person. There is
> >ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE for any aligations that "PsycProf" is me. NONE.
> >***In fact***, there is clear evidence he/she is NOT me -- see the
> >headers, it IS NOT FROM ANY SERVER I POST FROM.
> > I apologize to PsycProf for the rude treatment of the mindless,
> >inconsiderate thugs he will encounter here.
> >
> >Jamie E. Eimermann wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <36004...@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us>,
> >> PsycProf <NoE...@please.okay> wrote:
> >> >I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list . I checked
> >> >these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
> >> >recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
> >> >psychology.
> >>
> >> Brad, we know you're not a professor, so please stop calling yourself
> >> one.
> >>
> >> Jamie
>
Cognitee
FOR THE RECORD: You make a completely unfounded and UNETHICAL
allegation.
Joseph P. Arco wrote:
>
> Cognitee wrote:
> >
> > Jamie,
> > I did not make that post and there is no evidence I did.
>
> " hardily " !
>
> > Will you
> > quit harassing EVERYONE who agrees with me??
>
> Correction, it should be " hardily " everyone.
>
> > Grow up !!!
> > This is a PERFECT example of how EVERYONE that agrees with me is
> > attacked. There will likely be more attacks on this person. There is
> > ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE for any aligations that "PsycProf" is me. NONE.
> > ***In fact***, there is clear evidence he/she is NOT me -- see the
> > headers, it IS NOT FROM ANY SERVER I POST FROM.
>
> " hardily " !
>
> > I apologize to PsycProf for the rude treatment of the mindless,
> > inconsiderate thugs he will encounter here.
>
> Bradley now attempts to get support by apologizing to himself. ...Way to
> go, Brad!
>
> >
don't spam me .wavefront .com
: I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list . I checked
: recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
: psychology.
Uh, hey, Brad. How ya doin? And if you aren't brad,
can you give us at least a _domain_ name? I've never
met a real college professor who wouldn't say where
he/she taught...
--
jeremy wavefront com 1989 Honda VTR250
DoD # (pending) BNASPAM #3 1971 Honda CL350
"I could not move any faster if we were under full scale
attack..." -- Scotty
don't spam me .wavefront .com
: As the saying goes:
: Two weeks ago I could hardily spell psykologyst. Now I are one.
Off-topic, but:
In a previous job, my title was changed to 'Engineer'. So,
for about a year, I got to run around saying....
"Six monts ahgo, I couldn't even say Eng-i-neer (hard g),
and now I are one."
Heh.
Peter
<Les...@wharton.demon.co.uk> writes
>On 16 Sep 98 23:15:11 GMT, PsycProf <NoE...@please.okay> wrote:
>
>>I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list .
>
>What mailing list was that, please?
<snip>
:-)))))
>So, Brad, just give Peter a bit of time and then you can expect to see
>this alias on your killfile list.
Done.
>And Peter: *don't* say anything specific publicly, but I will assume
>that you have caught the sign/symbol in this one that I had alerted you
>to last month? <grinning... it's always so nice when the little kook
>proves me right yet again....>
LOL. "Endeavour to perseverate".
There are in fact two, as you now know. ;->
--
Peter
<Do something about the getlost in my address if you want to write.>
http://www.wharton.demon.co.uk/Central.htm
Leslie
>I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list .
What mailing list was that, please?
> I checked
>these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
>recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
>psychology.
>
>
>>Check out my web pages.
>>On one I point up what clients should watch out for and
>>insist on. I describe how the profession could be
>>better. And, on the other web page you will find the absolute best
>>list of hot-buttoned resources you could ever find.
>>I recommend them for all:
>>
>>http://www.future.net/~bradj/it.html
>>
>>and
>>
>>http://www.future.net/~bradj/father.html
>>
>>
Well, no, we don't think this will do at all, Brad. First, you are not
a psychology "Prof," regardless of whether one interprets "Prof" as
"professor" or "professional."
Second, a real "prof" would probably know that the word is "heartily"
and not "hardily" before "recommend."
So, Brad, just give Peter a bit of time and then you can expect to see
this alias on your killfile list.
And Peter: *don't* say anything specific publicly, but I will assume
that you have caught the sign/symbol in this one that I had alerted you
to last month? <grinning... it's always so nice when the little kook
proves me right yet again....>
--
Leslie
don't spam me .wavefront .com
: Second, a real "prof" would probably know that the word is "heartily"
: and not "hardily" before "recommend."
Well, to tell the truth, I've met some very intelligent
college professors who consistently mispell words in day-to-day
use. Just a minor, pedantic, point :)
: So, Brad, just give Peter a bit of time and then you can expect to see
: this alias on your killfile list.
We should really get some sort of InterNIC grant to fund Peter,
so he can get some money out of all this time he spends chasing
Brad.
: And Peter: *don't* say anything specific publicly, but I
: will assume that you have caught the sign/symbol in this one
: that I had alerted you to last month?
All I can do is trust that someday, we'll all know ;)
: <grinning... it's always so nice when the little kook
: proves me right yet again....>
By the way, you may proudly add BNASPAM #2 to your .sig,
since Brad has forged your name to some postings, I understand.
--
jeremy wavefront com 1989 Honda VTR250
DoD #WildCard BNASPAM #3 1971 Honda CL350
Daniel L. Snyder
>Dear Daniel Synder,
> Your response sounds nice, but in no way reflects reality.
I have asked you in the past to please spell my last name correctly, yet
you apparently choose to ignore this.
You lose points on common decency.
>(1) I never imagined that I would be abused in every conceivable
> way (and more than most could imagine), ever since I posted my
> views here non-anonymously. Based on this, it is simply not
> fair to oneslef to express unpopular views here and not be
> anonymous.
The integrity issue - taking a stand for your beliefs regardless of the
consequences - is not necessarily predicated upon forseeing the
consequences. A little common sense suggests that controversial
viewpoints may not be well received.
You continue to lose points on the integrity issue.
>(2) The "professional" response to the views I have expressed here and
> on my web page (http://www.future.net/~bradj/it.html) has
> NEVER been reasonable much less fair. In short you are the
> "pot calling the kettle black" as the say. It is you that cannot
> agree with clear facts or respond to clear issues (THIS IS MUCH
> MORE *YOUR* PROBLEM THAN MINE).
I am talking about behavior. And I will grant that the behavior of many
professionals on this list has been less than stellar, including my own,
as I have made the occassional dig at you. But pointing at others does
not excuse yourself. Children often say "(s)he made me do it". No one
makes you do anything.
What is the standard for "reasonable"? I submit, nothing less than 100%
agreement. Who says things have to be "fair"? (Goes back to the
integrity issue - standing for our ideas regardless of whether or not we
will be treated fairly).
I stated that many have conceded that you have some points, which suggests
some measure of humilityon their part. That , actually, sounds like
"fair" to me. Yet, where is the evidence that you have ever conceded a
point, or have truly engaged in open dialogue from a position of
humility. Calling an entire profession "hacks"?
You continue to lose points on the integrity issue.
>I intend to leave this uncivil, uncaring, abusive newsgroup, where
>professionals obviously care mainly about themselves and anything
>they like to do or want to do more than they care for either clients or
>science.
You have stated this before. You always return. What can we deduce from
this? At a minimum - it suggests that the integrity and humility issues
are still problemmatic - given you often leave some "out" (e.g. "promise
never to return to spp, as long as no one on spp every ... [fill in the
blank - see Deja News for evidence??]). At worse - it suggests that you
are a liar.
Will you, then, lose points on the morality issue as well?
This is not my problem. I value integrity, humility and morality. I
don't always "do them" - admitting to my own humanity. I am proud of my
profession, as imperfect as it is. I know that I am generally well
respected in my various communities - work, school, church, neighborhood,
training sites, Como Zoo, whatever .... (While "trumpeting my own horn"
may somewhat challenge the humility thing - this self-apparaisal is
offered in the context of my own admission that I *try to know what I
don't know as much as what I know*, and typically seek constructive
criticism). In other words, I accept that I am sometimes a "pot", thus
have some grounds to call you the "kettle".
-Adios-
or should that be
-Hasta Luego?-
--Dan
Jamie E. Eimermann
Leslie <Les...@getlostwharton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On 16 Sep 98 23:15:11 GMT, PsycProf <NoE...@please.okay> wrote:
>
>>I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list .
>
>What mailing list was that, please?
Do you think Brad and his sockpuppets have a private mailing list where
they can converse without the jarring intrusions of thugs? Can you
just imagine all the back patting and self soothing that must go on?
Jamie
Living to Learn
>I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list . I checked
>these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
>recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
>psychology.
>
sorry Brad, oh excuse me PsychProf (wink, wink, smile) , but you have
mis-spoken. English (at least American English, my native tongue) has
no word "hardily". I would believe most people here would agree with
"hardly recommend", meaning a very slim chance of doing so. However,
the way the term is used, I believe you meant heartily, thereby
showing once again another, is it called a Sock Puppet?
D.
Beautywalk
>Anonymous Bradnee lo14 <nob...@lo14.wroc.pl>
>Let me defend the good and learned professor.
>"Hardily" is in the dictionary; it simply is not in your
>vocabulary, D. !!
>
>From:
> always-...@somewhere.else.com (Living to Learn)
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Well, for a change, Brad was using his dictionary."Hardily" is perhaps used in
reference to undo the "softening" of his lamented organ, hence his use in the
French "to make hard." From MW:
Main Entry: har·dy
Pronunciation: 'här-dE
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): har·di·er; -est
Etymology: Middle English hardi, from Old French, from (assumed) Old French
hardir to make hard, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English heard hard
Date: 13th century
1 : BOLD, BRAVE
2 : AUDACIOUS, BRAZEN
3 a : inured to fatigue or hardships : ROBUST b : capable of withstanding
adverse conditions <hardy outdoor furniture> <hardy plants> <hardy cattle>
- har·di·ly /'här-d&l-E/ adverb
- har·di·ness /'här-dE-n&s/ noun
TJRAFFZ1
Just a random thought: I would hope that a psychology professor would not
mistake the word "hardily" for "heartily"
don't spam me .wavefront .com
: Let me defend the good and learned professor.
: vocabulary, D. !!
Hey Brad, did you do all the spamming from that we see
here, or was it someone else?
Peter
>Just before high-siding Leslie <Les...@wharton.demon.co.uk> shrieked:
>
>: Second, a real "prof" would probably know that the word is "heartily"
>: and not "hardily" before "recommend."
>
>Well, to tell the truth, I've met some very intelligent
>college professors who consistently mispell words in day-to-day
>use. Just a minor, pedantic, point :)
Not in the way that Brad does!
>: So, Brad, just give Peter a bit of time and then you can expect to see
>: this alias on your killfile list.
>
>We should really get some sort of InterNIC grant to fund Peter,
>so he can get some money out of all this time he spends chasing
>Brad.
You know, I 'hardily' ever go to the web. Archiving is done using
Turnpike's inbuilt facilities, and is as quick as winking. Searches? Go
to work leaving multiple copies of a grep prog running, and on return
there are amazing results.
>: And Peter: *don't* say anything specific publicly, but I
>: will assume that you have caught the sign/symbol in this one
>: that I had alerted you to last month?
>
>All I can do is trust that someday, we'll all know ;)
I counted more than three. I will say no more.
>: <grinning... it's always so nice when the little kook
>: proves me right yet again....>
>
>By the way, you may proudly add BNASPAM #2 to your .sig,
>since Brad has forged your name to some postings, I understand.
Hmm. Reminds me. I have some complaints to e-mail.
--
Peter
http://www.wharton.demon.co.uk/Central.htm
Joseph P. Arco
[deleted]
>
> Joseph P. Arco wrote:
> >
> > Cognitee wrote:
> > >
> > > Jamie,
> > > I did not make that post and there is no evidence I did.
> >
> > " hardily " !
> >
> > > Will you
> > > quit harassing EVERYONE who agrees with me??
> >
> > Correction, it should be " hardily " everyone.
> >
> > > Grow up !!!
> > > This is a PERFECT example of how EVERYONE that agrees with me is
> > > attacked. There will likely be more attacks on this person. There is
> > > ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE for any aligations that "PsycProf" is me. NONE.
> > > ***In fact***, there is clear evidence he/she is NOT me -- see the
> > > headers, it IS NOT FROM ANY SERVER I POST FROM.
> >
> > " hardily " !
> >
> > > I apologize to PsycProf for the rude treatment of the mindless,
> > > inconsiderate thugs he will encounter here.
> >
> > Bradley now attempts to get support by apologizing to himself. ...Way to
> > go, Brad!
> >
> > >
> > > Jamie E. Eimermann wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <36004...@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us>,
> > > > PsycProf <NoE...@please.okay> wrote:
> > > > >I saw the following post from a Brad J on a mailing list . I checked
> > > > >these sites out and, as a professor of psychology, I hardily
> > > > >recommend them to my students and to all interested in clinical
> > > > >psychology.
> > > >
don't spam me .wavefront .com
: In article <BweM1.409$Ge.8...@ptah.visi.com>, jeremy@please.? writes
:>Just before high-siding Leslie <Les...@wharton.demon.co.uk> shrieked:
:>
:>: Second, a real "prof" would probably know that the word is "heartily"
:>: and not "hardily" before "recommend."
:>
:>Well, to tell the truth, I've met some very intelligent
:>college professors who consistently mispell words in day-to-day
:>use. Just a minor, pedantic, point :)
: Not in the way that Brad does!
True enough. The guys I knew had problems with
interchanging the various forms of 'to', and with words
like accomodating and exceedingly long words..
But these same guys would sit with a dictionary and check the
spelling of just about every word in anything that was leaving
the lab.
:>We should really get some sort of InterNIC grant to fund Peter,
:>so he can get some money out of all this time he spends chasing
:>Brad.
: You know, I 'hardily' ever go to the web. Archiving is done using
: Turnpike's inbuilt facilities, and is as quick as winking. Searches? Go
: to work leaving multiple copies of a grep prog running, and on return
: there are amazing results.
I bet. I don't have the DASD to pull that sort of thing off.
: I counted more than three. I will say no more.
Feel free to clue me in via email some time :)