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Iceman

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Feb 24, 2002, 5:32:41 AM2/24/02
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Repoasted Brad Jesness post for the archives

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:18:40 +0100 (CET), Brad <0000...@no-id.com>
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>Subject: Harassing email and "Taylor" is Mad (likely no coincidence)
>From: Brad <0000...@no-id.com>
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>Someone must be doing something to make Taylor (or is it Spamford?)
>mad.
>I am getting threatening emails. (Reminds me of the terroristic
>threats
>I got in October after contacting "Taylor Jimenez" as a domain admin.
>)
>
>I believe legal problems may be ensuing for "Taylor"
>
>Here's the email:
>
>From: bad buddy <notyou...@freemail.com.au>
>To: 0000...@no-id.com
>Subject: don't be stupid
>Date: 23 Feb 2002 06:04:18 -0000
>This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>- ------------APMIME1
>Content-type: text/plain
>
>you and your pal are in for a world of hurt
>
>your friends are pussies
>
>my friends are dangerous
>
>one never knows who will be behind them when they least expect it
>we already know everything about you two
>
>have a nice day mate
>
>
>
>- --------------------------------------------------------
>
>Looking for a free email account?
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>
>- --------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
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Peter

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Feb 24, 2002, 6:35:25 AM2/24/02
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In message <eea613c01b7c945d...@remailer.segfault.net>,
Brad <0000...@no-id.com> writes

>NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway.
>No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.
>--------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>Someone must be doing something to make Taylor (or is it Spamford?)
>mad.

Well now, this is most interesting. What do we have here?

Seemingly the article was sent out at about 05.00 Minneapolis time along
with a batch of others. Delays with the remailers perhaps?

The article was PGP signed, and the key holder is recorded on
certserver.com as Brad Jesness <0000...@no-id.com> <I downloaded the
others whilst I was there, including your two botched attempts!>

The owner of said PGP signed post refers to Taylor as 'Spamford' while
threatening legal action. Irrefutable link.

The poster uses X-No-Archive: Y?s. Irrefutable link to PGP key.

The poster uses a remailer, which also irrefutably links the owner of
the PGP key to remailer use.

This PGP signed article arrived amid a batch of other 'anonymous'
scratchings; same preoccupations too.

Well done, you have linked yourself to the recent torrent of spam and
libel through the remailers.

FWIW the email you received is either from the UK or the Antipodes. At
least, if the colloquialisms are anything to go by. It could of course
have been forged, hence perhaps the freemail.com.au From: line.

By you.

FYI, Taylor is away this weekend. The world will just laugh at you and
your incredibly stupid, self incriminating crap. Plus ca change.


>I am getting threatening emails. (Reminds me of the terroristic
>threats
>I got in October after contacting "Taylor Jimenez" as a domain admin.
>)
>
>I believe legal problems may be ensuing for "Taylor"
>
>Here's the email:
>
>From: bad buddy <notyou...@freemail.com.au>
>To: 0000...@no-id.com
>Subject: don't be stupid
>Date: 23 Feb 2002 06:04:18 -0000
>This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>------------APMIME1
>Content-type: text/plain
>
>you and your pal are in for a world of hurt
>
>your friends are pussies
>
>my friends are dangerous
>
>one never knows who will be behind them when they least expect it
>we already know everything about you two
>
>have a nice day mate


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Subject: Harassing email and "Taylor" is Mad (likely no coincidence)
From: Brad <0000...@no-id.com>
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Here's the email:

your friends are pussies

my friends are dangerous

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--
Peter

Master of The Inverted Placebo

ThePsyko

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Feb 24, 2002, 3:48:41 PM2/24/02
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:18:40 +0100 (CET), Brad <0000...@no-id.com>
amused me when they said:

>NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway.
>No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.
>--------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>Someone must be doing something to make Taylor (or is it Spamford?)
>mad.
>I am getting threatening emails. (Reminds me of the terroristic
>threats
>I got in October after contacting "Taylor Jimenez" as a domain admin.
>)
>
>I believe legal problems may be ensuing for "Taylor"

yeah? so now you're claiming that just because you think somebody is
upset, that it MUST be them when you recieve an anonymous email?
Funny, you denied it was you that sent that email threatening to
"abuse insulin babies" because it was anonymous and I had no proof...
are you admitting now that you were wrong? Or is it just more
"Jesnessism" where the world works one way for you and another for the
rest of us? oh wait.... we KNOW you believe that....

BTW, where's my "welcome back"?? Don't be a fuckhead Brad, fetch me a
beer and a pillow.. I'm gonna be here for a while :)

HTH
HAND


ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7
"God told me to skin you alive"

http://prozac.iscool.net

Kali

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Feb 24, 2002, 9:21:40 PM2/24/02
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In article <52bjj2u9$Me8...@btinternet.com>, posted Sun, 24
Feb 2002 11:35:25 +0000, Peter says...
:In message <eea613c01b7c945d...@remailer.segfault.net>,
snip

Excellent. <applause!!!>

Kali
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Brad Jesness "In His Own Shameful Words" :-X
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Kali

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Feb 24, 2002, 9:23:14 PM2/24/02
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In article <a5bk46$4m5$1...@astroconsulting.databasix.com>,
posted Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:48:41 GMT, ThePsyko says...
:On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:18:40 +0100 (CET), Brad <0000...@no-id.com>

:amused me when they said:
:
:>NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway.
:>No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.
:>--------------------------------------------------------
:>
:>
:>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
:>Hash: SHA1
:>
:>Someone must be doing something to make Taylor (or is it Spamford?)
:>mad.
:>I am getting threatening emails. (Reminds me of the terroristic
:>threats
:>I got in October after contacting "Taylor Jimenez" as a domain admin.
:>)
:>
:>I believe legal problems may be ensuing for "Taylor"
:
:yeah? so now you're claiming that just because you think somebody is
:upset, that it MUST be them when you recieve an anonymous email?
:Funny, you denied it was you that sent that email threatening to
:"abuse insulin babies" because it was anonymous and I had no proof...
:are you admitting now that you were wrong? Or is it just more
:"Jesnessism"

"yeppers"

where the world works one way for you and another for the
:rest of us? oh wait.... we KNOW you believe that....
:
:BTW, where's my "welcome back"?? Don't be a fuckhead Brad, fetch me a
:beer and a pillow.. I'm gonna be here for a while :)

He's busy with Rts atm.

:HTH
:HAND

snip

Welcome back! Where ya been?

Iceman

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Feb 25, 2002, 12:12:13 AM2/25/02
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Repost for archive due to x-no continued harassment

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 05:47:20 +0100 (CET), Anonymous
<nob...@paranoici.org> wrote:

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>Kali It's new. Return blast from the past, the main history of
>this newsgroup just ONE click away. Yep, here is the past history of this
>
>newsgroup summarized, that shows that all the leading psychology people here
>
>are grossly unethical:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=sppFAQ***&hl=en&selm=d79adc5451e13c5819a860f3c06c607a%40talley.remailer.org&rnum=10

ThePsyko

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Feb 25, 2002, 4:38:12 AM2/25/02
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:23:14 GMT, Kali <Ka...@Lart.com.hate.spam>

Had some things to take care of R/L as well as been busting my ass
over the last few months with work.. client needed something done
which required me to learn Kixtart scripting (had never even SEEN it
before but I couldn't tell the client that).... then they needed
something else done - same issue only after researching it I decided
PHP would be the way to resolve that one... so I've been learning
PHP... and MySQL.... and then they wanted to monitor bandwith usage
between remote offices... so again I hit the books on SNMP and MIBs...


sok though.. my resume is getting FAT and the client loves me :)
gonna make a great reference :)

Peter

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Feb 25, 2002, 8:52:13 AM2/25/02
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In message <a5bk46$4m5$1...@astroconsulting.databasix.com>, ThePsyko
<TheP...@itookmyprozac.com> writes
,snips>


>BTW, where's my "welcome back"?? Don't be a fuckhead Brad, fetch me a
>beer and a pillow.. I'm gonna be here for a while :)


Welcome back. The pillow is essential since you will be gummed into
sleep. Unless it is for you know who to bite on? <Well, RtS is around.>
- --
Peter

Master of The Inverted Placebo

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Peter

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In message <MPG.16e35bbd1...@news.earthlink.net>, Kali
<Ka...@Lart.com.hate.spam> writes
<snip>
>Excellent. <applause!!!>

Moaning Lisa appears to think so too, so much so that she had to post
stuff about who's done the best forensic work in Usenet. As if that
mattered.

Having seen LoTR twice now, I have this picture in my mind of you know
who, wondering around in the bowels of google.com looking for the
preciousisisisisisisisisis that it lost so many years ago. ;-)

Should be known as Bilbo, but with the letter d in place of the letter
b.
- --
Peter

Master of The Inverted Placebo

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Brad

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Feb 23, 2002, 2:22:23 PM2/23/02
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Someone must be doing something to make Taylor (or is it Spamford?)


mad.
I am getting threatening emails. (Reminds me of the terroristic
threats
I got in October after contacting "Taylor Jimenez" as a domain admin.
)

I believe legal problems may be ensuing for "Taylor"

Here's the email:

Brad

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