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Paul and Rolf's BRAD fan club or is it a new local BRAD organ.

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MrEdtH

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Feb 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/16/96
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Dear Paul and Rolf,
I am impressed by your interest in BRAD and wonder if you are
considering starting a new chapter of BRAD. The later would be most
appreciated, if you are old enough and have the abilities and resources to
do it !! God speed!

Incognee

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Feb 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/16/96
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Dear Readers:
Let me say that I am moved by the attention but consider it
unnecessary. If anyone does want to register as a BRAD member (group name
subject to change after discussions) please feel free to e-mail me B
Jesness (inco...@aol.co) OR Livi (livi...@aol.com). ALL membership
information is confidential and shared (even with other members) ONLY
after consultation with you.


Only Livi of BRAD receives and responds to mail. To contact the
organization BRAD, write Livi...@aol.com

Ask us about BRAD: It is a client and science advocacy group,
dedicated to furthering science standards and practices in the therapy
field. We insist on fair and proper representation of treatments and on
providing information about costly or limited treatment options
available to clients "up front". We believe options and evidence of their
efficacies should be provided to clients before they enter a course of
counseling or therapy. The various treatments and programs offered by each
professional mental health service provider should be
outlined in some detail in a booklet made available to clients. Only this
would provide reasonable information before the expense of and commitment
to a course of treatment.
Only where a there is a reliably identifiable problem type (showing --
in research -- evidence of good inter-rater reliability in diagnosis) AND
there is evidence of a clear and repeatable technique with demonstrated
efficacy, should treatment be referred to as "therapy." Otherwise what is
done is the major cooperative endeavor know as COUNSELING. This requires a
well-adapted helper, with much consideration and openness, using the most
intelligence, self-control, and judgement. -- some demands of BRAD

Incognee

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Feb 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/19/96
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Due to the fact that some have proclaimed "agreement" with both
BRAD's goals and proposed solutions YET do not offer any evidence they
are acting in accord with any of the basic tenets, it is now asked that
when you log-in as an honorary BRAD member (group name subject to
change), you indicate in which area(s) you plan to apply your efforts.
Thanks. -- B Jesness, M.A.

Rolf Marvin Bře Lindgren

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Feb 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/20/96
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[Incognee]

Brad,

I have stated that I agree with your basic position but not with your
methods.

the procedure outlined above is one of the methods with which I do not
agree.

--
Rolf Lindgren | FAQ for sci.psychology:
| ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/sci.psychology
9111 Sogn Studentby | Student of psychology. Writes thesis on
N-0858 OSLO | team building, requested by the market forces.

Incognee

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Feb 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/21/96
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Dear Rolf,
What methods are you using? Please please tell. You "believe in"
the problems; you "believe in" the solutions. What's next? What you
gonna do?? [Who ya' gonna call??]

Rolf Marvin Bře Lindgren

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Feb 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/22/96
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[Incognee]

| [Who ya' gonna call??]

Ghostbusters!

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