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alie...@gmail.com
Nov 25, 2012, 5:46:48 PM11/25/12
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You might want to check on where they took their certification exam:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/25/15430647-cheating-scandal-feds-say-teachers-hired-stand-in-to-take-their-certification-tests?lite
http://tinyurl.com/cje65ne
This sort of thing makes me glad I'm an autodidact.
Mark L. Fergerson
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/25/15430647-cheating-scandal-feds-say-teachers-hired-stand-in-to-take-their-certification-tests?lite
http://tinyurl.com/cje65ne
This sort of thing makes me glad I'm an autodidact.
Mark L. Fergerson
Fjolsvit
Nov 25, 2012, 7:56:50 PM11/25/12
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Lofty Goat
Nov 25, 2012, 8:38:21 PM11/25/12
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>> ... I'm an autodidact.
> Not me. I pretty much taught myself....
[sigh]
> Not me. I pretty much taught myself....
[sigh]
Mahipal
Nov 25, 2012, 8:52:14 PM11/25/12
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On Nov 25, 5:46 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You might want to check on where they took their certification exam:
>
> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/25/15430647-cheating-scandal-...
> You might want to check on where they took their certification exam:
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cje65ne
>
> This sort of thing makes me glad I'm an autodidact.
>
> Mark L. Fergerson
I've said it before, I'll say it again, I'll say it over and over
> http://tinyurl.com/cje65ne
>
> This sort of thing makes me glad I'm an autodidact.
>
> Mark L. Fergerson
again... in fact just last night I was having drinks with Albert
Einstein... he kept talking and on and on... how nothing was light...
so I ordered me a double shot... turned to him and I emphatically
stated in no uncertain terms... banging my empty glass hard on the
maple wood bar... One Survives Being Educated!
BarKeep, please pour me just one more. Gots to drive past the light.
Enjo(y)...
--
Mahipal
http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/
One who survived being educated... I hope... how would I even know?
Benj
Nov 26, 2012, 12:20:22 AM11/26/12
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Obviously a little more "autodidactalia" is needed here.
Where is HVAC when you need him?
Fjolsvit
Nov 26, 2012, 12:53:29 AM11/26/12
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On Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:46:48 PM UTC-5, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
Mahipal
Nov 26, 2012, 6:39:55 PM11/26/12
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On Nov 26, 12:53 am, Fjolsvit <fjols...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:46:48 PM UTC-5, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> > You might want to check on where they took their certification exam:
>
> >http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/25/15430647-cheating-scandal-...
> On Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:46:48 PM UTC-5, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> > You might want to check on where they took their certification exam:
>
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/cje65ne
>
> > This sort of thing makes me glad I'm an autodidact.
>
> > Mark L. Fergerson
>
> throw them in the water. If they float they are witches. If they drown, our mistake.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20461752
> >http://tinyurl.com/cje65ne
>
> > This sort of thing makes me glad I'm an autodidact.
>
> > Mark L. Fergerson
>
> throw them in the water. If they float they are witches. If they drown, our mistake.
'Mark of the beast' as I cut&paste the quoted.
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Nov 26, 2012, 7:10:44 PM11/26/12
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"Mahipal" wrote in message
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As it's not an implant I don't get it.
When I was at school the register had to be marked every morning, the
teacher called your name and you replied "Here" or "Here, sir". If you were
not present another student (or several) would say "He's not here". One
can't hold the staff responsible for the safety of a child who is not there,
so it is necessary to know that they are present. All that device does is
remove the five minutes wasted calling the register and you only need to
carry it as if it were a name tag, which is all it is but recognised by
technology.
-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
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As it's not an implant I don't get it.
When I was at school the register had to be marked every morning, the
teacher called your name and you replied "Here" or "Here, sir". If you were
not present another student (or several) would say "He's not here". One
can't hold the staff responsible for the safety of a child who is not there,
so it is necessary to know that they are present. All that device does is
remove the five minutes wasted calling the register and you only need to
carry it as if it were a name tag, which is all it is but recognised by
technology.
-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
alie...@gmail.com
Nov 26, 2012, 8:01:56 PM11/26/12
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school to bring all their tags with him while they play hooky. As far
as the RFID reader knows the classroom is full, but a *competent*
teacher would notice...
Mark L. (not particularly beastly) Fergerson
Mahipal
Nov 26, 2012, 9:35:55 PM11/26/12
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instinct, "*competent*" teacher. Shhh... your secret observation is
safe with me.
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Nov 27, 2012, 12:57:05 AM11/27/12
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"Mahipal" wrote in message
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London has a congestion charge. If you drive a vehicle into the city centre
during business hours you pay a fee that day. To make sure you pay they have
strategically located cameras coupled to computers with optical character
recognition software. It reads licence plates and records the time.
Fail to pay and you get mailed a photograph of your car at the location and
a fine, even that is automated. We have competent software engineers. The
RFID reader can also do a head count and drop a giant cone with "Dunce"
written on it over the head of the individual with one head and two or more
tags, rings the school bell like mad, thus summoning the head teacher who,
recognising the geek was in the wrong school, uses cell phone technology to
alert the head teacher of the school whose uniform the geek is wearing.
Really clever geeks would attend the correct school wearing the wrong
uniform, thoroughly confusing the RIFD reader whose competent programmer has
just displayed his foresight in that eventually and taken steps to
circumvent even the clever geek, take away his extra tags, his bribery fees
and his lunch money.
news:83b69777-5c8d-4e0c...@bq2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
during business hours you pay a fee that day. To make sure you pay they have
strategically located cameras coupled to computers with optical character
recognition software. It reads licence plates and records the time.
Fail to pay and you get mailed a photograph of your car at the location and
a fine, even that is automated. We have competent software engineers. The
RFID reader can also do a head count and drop a giant cone with "Dunce"
written on it over the head of the individual with one head and two or more
tags, rings the school bell like mad, thus summoning the head teacher who,
recognising the geek was in the wrong school, uses cell phone technology to
alert the head teacher of the school whose uniform the geek is wearing.
Really clever geeks would attend the correct school wearing the wrong
uniform, thoroughly confusing the RIFD reader whose competent programmer has
just displayed his foresight in that eventually and taken steps to
circumvent even the clever geek, take away his extra tags, his bribery fees
and his lunch money.
Benj
Nov 27, 2012, 1:44:31 AM11/27/12
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:39:55 -0800, Mahipal wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20461752
>
> 'Mark of the beast' as I cut&paste the quoted.
"Good first step" but you hardly want a card that can be removed. A nice
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20461752
>
> 'Mark of the beast' as I cut&paste the quoted.
implant at birth that remains until the undertaker pulls it out is more
like it. If you aren't doing anything illegal then why would you worry
about those in power knowing where you are at all times?
Mahipal
Nov 27, 2012, 10:28:55 PM11/27/12
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be it government, corporation, hacker, or NSA agent access to our
right to privacy. Every time I hear CSPAN callers, or NPR Twits, who
insist that if I/We have nothing to be guilty of, then I/We should
freely allow all of them to read and hear my thoughts.
Every time one of these many Many MANY plants calls in, and they
always do, almost immediately sequentially following someone who
states it's wrong for a Third Party to access others' thoughts... the
Stalkers phone in and both CSPAN and NPR immediately allow them
voice... stating that well if you had nothing to hide you would not
insist on such privacy. Guilty Witches We. Please drown dead to prove
your innocence. Tia.
Think about it, again, cause I am sure you already have Ben.
Hell, if I don't sign my post, then they won't be able to track me
down. He he.
Sam Wormley
Nov 27, 2012, 11:37:00 PM11/27/12
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On 11/27/12 9:28 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> Hell, if I don't sign my post, then they won't be able to track me
> down.
You are being tracked as you post.
> Hell, if I don't sign my post, then they won't be able to track me
> down.
Mahipal
Nov 28, 2012, 11:13:49 AM11/28/12
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but I had written:
"Hell, if I don't sign my post, then they won't be able to track me
Do you read the relative difference between your edit of my words in
the original text? How much extra work did you perform to change my
meaning? Try hard not to be dense as usual, it's rather unbecoming
Sam.
Don't alter my contents when moved enough to bother to reply. When you
alter my contents, you might as well have a discussion with some
fictional nonexistent person.
I post well knowing I am a tracked being. He he.
Sam Wormley
Nov 28, 2012, 11:39:17 AM11/28/12
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On 11/28/12 10:13 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> I post well knowing I am a tracked being.
By golly, I believe you've got it!
> I post well knowing I am a tracked being.
Mahipal
Nov 28, 2012, 11:44:37 AM11/28/12
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"I post well knowing I am a tracked being. He he. "
Stop editing my contents. Stop pretending you taught me anything.
Believe wtf whatever you are brain washed or programmed to.
Mahipal
Nov 28, 2012, 2:01:39 PM11/28/12
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On Nov 27, 12:57 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
> Mahipalhttp://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Actually I worked on the SW and technology leading to the modern ORT,
Open Road Tolling, congestion time or no, not ever to be confused with
the Oort oort OORT Cloud overhead. So anytime one drives speeding
through any toll booth lane, some of my own software is assuring
you've obeyed the Master Toll Keeper's Laws. Fairly confident the same
SW and technology is used internationally, not necessarily
universally. Yet.
>
> London has a congestion charge. If you drive a vehicle into the city centre
> during business hours you pay a fee that day. To make sure you pay they have
> strategically located cameras coupled to computers with optical character
> recognition software. It reads licence plates and records the time.
> Fail to pay and you get mailed a photograph of your car at the location and
> a fine, even that is automated. We have competent software engineers. The
> RFID reader can also do a head count and drop a giant cone with "Dunce"
> written on it over the head of the individual with one head and two or more
> tags, rings the school bell like mad, thus summoning the head teacher who,
> recognising the geek was in the wrong school, uses cell phone technology to
> alert the head teacher of the school whose uniform the geek is wearing.
> Really clever geeks would attend the correct school wearing the wrong
> uniform, thoroughly confusing the RIFD reader whose competent programmer has
> just displayed his foresight in that eventually and taken steps to
> circumvent even the clever geek, take away his extra tags, his bribery fees
> and his lunch money.
Still, the Toll Keepers are watching your habits of Truancy. Beware.
> London has a congestion charge. If you drive a vehicle into the city centre
> during business hours you pay a fee that day. To make sure you pay they have
> strategically located cameras coupled to computers with optical character
> recognition software. It reads licence plates and records the time.
> Fail to pay and you get mailed a photograph of your car at the location and
> a fine, even that is automated. We have competent software engineers. The
> RFID reader can also do a head count and drop a giant cone with "Dunce"
> written on it over the head of the individual with one head and two or more
> tags, rings the school bell like mad, thus summoning the head teacher who,
> recognising the geek was in the wrong school, uses cell phone technology to
> alert the head teacher of the school whose uniform the geek is wearing.
> Really clever geeks would attend the correct school wearing the wrong
> uniform, thoroughly confusing the RIFD reader whose competent programmer has
> just displayed his foresight in that eventually and taken steps to
> circumvent even the clever geek, take away his extra tags, his bribery fees
> and his lunch money.
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Open Road Tolling, congestion time or no, not ever to be confused with
the Oort oort OORT Cloud overhead. So anytime one drives speeding
through any toll booth lane, some of my own software is assuring
you've obeyed the Master Toll Keeper's Laws. Fairly confident the same
SW and technology is used internationally, not necessarily
universally. Yet.
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Nov 28, 2012, 4:01:22 PM11/28/12
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"Mahipal" wrote in message
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The Oort cloud isn't overhead. It's a hypothetical spherical shell of
particles concentric with the sun and beyond the furthest planet... aww,
shut up Androcles, don't let Mahipal accuse you of continuing the
digression he started.
So anytime one drives speeding
through any toll booth lane, some of my own software is assuring
you've obeyed the Master Toll Keeper's Laws. Fairly confident the same
SW and technology is used internationally, not necessarily
universally. Yet.
======================================================
A decade ago Dartford Crossing had automated toll booths with the "RFID
reader", aka Dart-tag.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartford_Crossing
"The DART-Tag is a device that enables drivers to pass the payment booths
without having to pay cash, and provides discounted charge rates. Normally
inserted into a holster that is stuck to the inside of a vehicle's
windscreen, it is detected by sensors at the payment booths and
automatically deducts the charge from the driver's pre-paid account."
news:599c1eb6-4dbb-4d83...@w7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
The Oort cloud isn't overhead. It's a hypothetical spherical shell of
particles concentric with the sun and beyond the furthest planet... aww,
shut up Androcles, don't let Mahipal accuse you of continuing the
digression he started.
So anytime one drives speeding
through any toll booth lane, some of my own software is assuring
you've obeyed the Master Toll Keeper's Laws. Fairly confident the same
SW and technology is used internationally, not necessarily
universally. Yet.
A decade ago Dartford Crossing had automated toll booths with the "RFID
reader", aka Dart-tag.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartford_Crossing
"The DART-Tag is a device that enables drivers to pass the payment booths
without having to pay cash, and provides discounted charge rates. Normally
inserted into a holster that is stuck to the inside of a vehicle's
windscreen, it is detected by sensors at the payment booths and
automatically deducts the charge from the driver's pre-paid account."
Mahipal
Nov 28, 2012, 4:50:30 PM11/28/12
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On Nov 28, 4:01 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
Talking to yourself John? That's rather cunning, from my perspective.
But I must, and did, take extreme measures to stay on topic in
sic_physics. The Oort Cloud was ever looming. Btw, we can access
history of posts to see who digressed why and when. Projection is
never untraceable. Devil's Advocates by the billions available. I saw
and got the movie Matrix.
> So anytime one drives speeding
> through any toll booth lane, some of my own software is assuring
> you've obeyed the Master Toll Keeper's Laws. Fairly confident the same
> SW and technology is used internationally, not necessarily
> universally. Yet.
>
> ======================================================
> A decade ago Dartford Crossing had automated toll booths with the "RFID
> reader", aka Dart-tag.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartford_Crossing
> "The DART-Tag is a device that enables drivers to pass the payment booths
> without having to pay cash, and provides discounted charge rates. Normally
> inserted into a holster that is stuck to the inside of a vehicle's
> windscreen, it is detected by sensors at the payment booths and
> automatically deducts the charge from the driver's pre-paid account."
That's the same RFID technology the Earth over, a decade hardly makes
a difference. Pretty sure the Patent Lawyers have all the
international taxes accounted for.
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
But I must, and did, take extreme measures to stay on topic in
sic_physics. The Oort Cloud was ever looming. Btw, we can access
history of posts to see who digressed why and when. Projection is
never untraceable. Devil's Advocates by the billions available. I saw
and got the movie Matrix.
> So anytime one drives speeding
> through any toll booth lane, some of my own software is assuring
> you've obeyed the Master Toll Keeper's Laws. Fairly confident the same
> SW and technology is used internationally, not necessarily
> universally. Yet.
>
> ======================================================
> A decade ago Dartford Crossing had automated toll booths with the "RFID
> reader", aka Dart-tag.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartford_Crossing
> "The DART-Tag is a device that enables drivers to pass the payment booths
> without having to pay cash, and provides discounted charge rates. Normally
> inserted into a holster that is stuck to the inside of a vehicle's
> windscreen, it is detected by sensors at the payment booths and
> automatically deducts the charge from the driver's pre-paid account."
a difference. Pretty sure the Patent Lawyers have all the
international taxes accounted for.
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Nov 28, 2012, 5:22:46 PM11/28/12
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"Mahipal" wrote in message
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Just pulling your chain to see if you flushed, Mahipal. If we were enjoying
a scotch in a bar it would have been my elbow in your ribs and my turn to
buy.
> So anytime one drives speeding
> through any toll booth lane, some of my own software is assuring
> you've obeyed the Master Toll Keeper's Laws. Fairly confident the same
> SW and technology is used internationally, not necessarily
> universally. Yet.
>
> ======================================================
> A decade ago Dartford Crossing had automated toll booths with the "RFID
> reader", aka Dart-tag.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartford_Crossing
> "The DART-Tag is a device that enables drivers to pass the payment booths
> without having to pay cash, and provides discounted charge rates. Normally
> inserted into a holster that is stuck to the inside of a vehicle's
> windscreen, it is detected by sensors at the payment booths and
> automatically deducts the charge from the driver's pre-paid account."
That's the same RFID technology the Earth over, a decade hardly makes
a difference. Pretty sure the Patent Lawyers have all the
international taxes accounted for.
===============================================
Correct, I even have one on my key fob to gain entry to my apartment
building (a block of flats in English, but blocks are streets in the USA).
It's waving a magic wand without the incantation "Open Sesame".
I bought a pair of shoes once without having the security tag erased
and every time I walked past the detector at K-Mart the alarm sounded.
That was funny. Or it would be if anyone did anything about the alarm,
they never do.
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Just pulling your chain to see if you flushed, Mahipal. If we were enjoying
a scotch in a bar it would have been my elbow in your ribs and my turn to
buy.
> So anytime one drives speeding
> through any toll booth lane, some of my own software is assuring
> you've obeyed the Master Toll Keeper's Laws. Fairly confident the same
> SW and technology is used internationally, not necessarily
> universally. Yet.
>
> ======================================================
> A decade ago Dartford Crossing had automated toll booths with the "RFID
> reader", aka Dart-tag.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartford_Crossing
> "The DART-Tag is a device that enables drivers to pass the payment booths
> without having to pay cash, and provides discounted charge rates. Normally
> inserted into a holster that is stuck to the inside of a vehicle's
> windscreen, it is detected by sensors at the payment booths and
> automatically deducts the charge from the driver's pre-paid account."
That's the same RFID technology the Earth over, a decade hardly makes
a difference. Pretty sure the Patent Lawyers have all the
international taxes accounted for.
Correct, I even have one on my key fob to gain entry to my apartment
building (a block of flats in English, but blocks are streets in the USA).
It's waving a magic wand without the incantation "Open Sesame".
I bought a pair of shoes once without having the security tag erased
and every time I walked past the detector at K-Mart the alarm sounded.
That was funny. Or it would be if anyone did anything about the alarm,
they never do.
Mahipal
Nov 29, 2012, 6:29:48 PM11/29/12
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On Nov 28, 5:22 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
Nice, I appreciate that. Do keep me on my toes.
Technology is only as smart as the stupid ones in control.
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Nov 29, 2012, 6:33:56 PM11/29/12
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"Mahipal" wrote in message
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Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Nov 29, 2012, 6:46:27 PM11/29/12
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"Mahipal" wrote in message
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Perhaps the alarm is merely to remind the absent-minded but honest
shopper to return and pay for the goods rather than alert the security
guard of theft. Who knows, it may even be cost-effective not to have to
pay minimum wage to a bored watchman tempted by bling he's guarding
with nobody to watch HIM, and let a few items be stolen.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
news:eb37b145-cfc7-46bf...@ib4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
Perhaps the alarm is merely to remind the absent-minded but honest
shopper to return and pay for the goods rather than alert the security
guard of theft. Who knows, it may even be cost-effective not to have to
pay minimum wage to a bored watchman tempted by bling he's guarding
with nobody to watch HIM, and let a few items be stolen.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Mahipal
Nov 30, 2012, 11:00:49 AM11/30/12
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On Nov 26, 12:20 am, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:38:21 -0600, Lofty Goat wrote:
> >>> ... I'm an autodidact.
>
> >> Not me. I pretty much taught myself....
>
> > [sigh]
>
> :-)
Before you two sigh] and :-) at some fictional discussion...
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:38:21 -0600, Lofty Goat wrote:
> >>> ... I'm an autodidact.
>
> >> Not me. I pretty much taught myself....
>
> > [sigh]
>
> :-)
The original content, which Lofty Goat manipulated, was and is:
"Not me. I pretty much taught myself. Well, with the benefit of some
good literature. "
literature.
> Obviously a little more "autodidactalia" is needed here.
> Where is HVAC when you need him?
simply cannot keep pace. One-liners get so meaningless as well.
Stop editing other posters' contents, at the risk of ultimately your
own credibility, should there be any in the first place, only to
pretend to have read or heard only what your closed mind can handle.
Mahipal
Nov 30, 2012, 11:54:37 AM11/30/12
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On Nov 29, 6:46 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? I guess this idea has resulted in
cameras in every place possible. When the smartestphone (TM) first had
cameras, one of my past employers issued an ultimatum, via global
email, that no cameras were allowed on their premises. What were we
all to do?! We couln't not carry our mobile phones for the real time
business dependent on reaching us in a nanosecond or they'd smilingly
escort you out the nearest door. Had a rule that we must return missed
calls within ten minutes, 24/7. They were also eagerly and perpetually
replacing the older experienced employees with new trainees just old
enough to barely have been fresh out of diapers.
Who is watching the Watchers? Once, three years ago, I lost my wallet
at a tennis store. Paid for my equipment and must've left the wallet
at the counter after payment. I went back, only two hours later,
having called the owner first, to the store to retrieve find my
driver's license, credit cards, and cash. The store has had
surveillance cameras all over. Warning signs as you enter. When the
owner replayed the video of me shopping, the data suddenly was non-
existent during the time of my purchase. CPU failure said the
Proprietor. No data recorded of me having been there at all. Still
dwell on that incident. Five days later my wallet arrived by mail,
only all the substantial amount of cash was missing. Even my good luck
$2 bill was taken from the secret compartment.
The problem I see with "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" is that the
Watchers always conspire to form some sort of clique that ends up
involving some homogeneous set of people. Same culture, same IQ, same
favorite colours, same secret hand wavings, etc... Ever wonder why all
the policemen look alike, for example?
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
cameras in every place possible. When the smartestphone (TM) first had
cameras, one of my past employers issued an ultimatum, via global
email, that no cameras were allowed on their premises. What were we
all to do?! We couln't not carry our mobile phones for the real time
business dependent on reaching us in a nanosecond or they'd smilingly
escort you out the nearest door. Had a rule that we must return missed
calls within ten minutes, 24/7. They were also eagerly and perpetually
replacing the older experienced employees with new trainees just old
enough to barely have been fresh out of diapers.
Who is watching the Watchers? Once, three years ago, I lost my wallet
at a tennis store. Paid for my equipment and must've left the wallet
at the counter after payment. I went back, only two hours later,
having called the owner first, to the store to retrieve find my
driver's license, credit cards, and cash. The store has had
surveillance cameras all over. Warning signs as you enter. When the
owner replayed the video of me shopping, the data suddenly was non-
existent during the time of my purchase. CPU failure said the
Proprietor. No data recorded of me having been there at all. Still
dwell on that incident. Five days later my wallet arrived by mail,
only all the substantial amount of cash was missing. Even my good luck
$2 bill was taken from the secret compartment.
The problem I see with "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" is that the
Watchers always conspire to form some sort of clique that ends up
involving some homogeneous set of people. Same culture, same IQ, same
favorite colours, same secret hand wavings, etc... Ever wonder why all
the policemen look alike, for example?
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Nov 30, 2012, 12:43:17 PM11/30/12
to
"Mahipal" wrote in message
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====================================================
It just came up again with Leveson mentioning it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveson_Inquiry
We need the press to keep an eye on the politicians, and I applaud Lassange
for Wikileaks. Government is there for the people, the public should be told
the truth. Not military secrets that an enemy could take advantage of, but
the kind of information Wikileaks uncovered. On the other side of the coin
we don't need the despicable phone hacking of a teenage murder victim so
that the press can write sensationalism for profit. The first is ethical and
the second immoral.
Beware the Americans, they WILL shoot you in the back to win by any means,
it's their culture. If you ever play pool in an American bar the winner of
the previous game "owns" the table and awaits the next contestant, which is
fair enough, but then he also demands the advantage of first turn instead of
flipping a coin to decide. In a dart game in Britain it's "Mug's away", the
advantage is given to the previous loser as a sporting gesture.
When the Iraqis were running away from Kuwait, defeated in the first Gulf
War, Americans were still shooting them in the back like "fish in a barrel".
When the smartestphone (TM) first had
cameras, one of my past employers issued an ultimatum, via global
email, that no cameras were allowed on their premises. What were we
all to do?! We couln't not carry our mobile phones for the real time
business dependent on reaching us in a nanosecond or they'd smilingly
escort you out the nearest door. Had a rule that we must return missed
calls within ten minutes, 24/7. They were also eagerly and perpetually
replacing the older experienced employees with new trainees just old
enough to barely have been fresh out of diapers.
========================================
Your boss was a fool, he can't stop technology.
Who is watching the Watchers? Once, three years ago, I lost my wallet
at a tennis store. Paid for my equipment and must've left the wallet
at the counter after payment. I went back, only two hours later,
having called the owner first, to the store to retrieve find my
driver's license, credit cards, and cash. The store has had
surveillance cameras all over. Warning signs as you enter. When the
owner replayed the video of me shopping, the data suddenly was non-
existent during the time of my purchase. CPU failure said the
Proprietor. No data recorded of me having been there at all. Still
dwell on that incident. Five days later my wallet arrived by mail,
only all the substantial amount of cash was missing. Even my good luck
$2 bill was taken from the secret compartment.
============================================
Did you report it to the press?
The problem I see with "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" is that the
Watchers always conspire to form some sort of clique that ends up
involving some homogeneous set of people. Same culture, same IQ, same
favorite colours, same secret hand wavings, etc... Ever wonder why all
the policemen look alike, for example?
==============================================
Juvenal's original statement was in reference to guarding young ladies
from their suitors, but the guards were eagerly bonking the willing girls.
news:cd7b57d3-b38d-4370...@w7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
It just came up again with Leveson mentioning it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveson_Inquiry
We need the press to keep an eye on the politicians, and I applaud Lassange
for Wikileaks. Government is there for the people, the public should be told
the truth. Not military secrets that an enemy could take advantage of, but
the kind of information Wikileaks uncovered. On the other side of the coin
we don't need the despicable phone hacking of a teenage murder victim so
that the press can write sensationalism for profit. The first is ethical and
the second immoral.
Beware the Americans, they WILL shoot you in the back to win by any means,
it's their culture. If you ever play pool in an American bar the winner of
the previous game "owns" the table and awaits the next contestant, which is
fair enough, but then he also demands the advantage of first turn instead of
flipping a coin to decide. In a dart game in Britain it's "Mug's away", the
advantage is given to the previous loser as a sporting gesture.
When the Iraqis were running away from Kuwait, defeated in the first Gulf
War, Americans were still shooting them in the back like "fish in a barrel".
When the smartestphone (TM) first had
cameras, one of my past employers issued an ultimatum, via global
email, that no cameras were allowed on their premises. What were we
all to do?! We couln't not carry our mobile phones for the real time
business dependent on reaching us in a nanosecond or they'd smilingly
escort you out the nearest door. Had a rule that we must return missed
calls within ten minutes, 24/7. They were also eagerly and perpetually
replacing the older experienced employees with new trainees just old
enough to barely have been fresh out of diapers.
Your boss was a fool, he can't stop technology.
Who is watching the Watchers? Once, three years ago, I lost my wallet
at a tennis store. Paid for my equipment and must've left the wallet
at the counter after payment. I went back, only two hours later,
having called the owner first, to the store to retrieve find my
driver's license, credit cards, and cash. The store has had
surveillance cameras all over. Warning signs as you enter. When the
owner replayed the video of me shopping, the data suddenly was non-
existent during the time of my purchase. CPU failure said the
Proprietor. No data recorded of me having been there at all. Still
dwell on that incident. Five days later my wallet arrived by mail,
only all the substantial amount of cash was missing. Even my good luck
$2 bill was taken from the secret compartment.
Did you report it to the press?
The problem I see with "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" is that the
Watchers always conspire to form some sort of clique that ends up
involving some homogeneous set of people. Same culture, same IQ, same
favorite colours, same secret hand wavings, etc... Ever wonder why all
the policemen look alike, for example?
Juvenal's original statement was in reference to guarding young ladies
from their suitors, but the guards were eagerly bonking the willing girls.
Mahipal
Nov 30, 2012, 2:13:37 PM11/30/12
to
On Nov 30, 12:43 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
Police, also conspire to entrap Lindsay Lohan on a bimonthly basis.
Every time she has her period, the cameras and journalists are ready
for the kill. Poor girl. Here's a not really worth the reading link, I
won't bother tinyurl it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2241092/How-depressed-Lindsay-Lohan-drank-TWO-LITRES-vodka-day-nightclub-catfight-arrest.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
> Beware the Americans, they WILL shoot you in the back to win by any means,
> it's their culture. If you ever play pool in an American bar the winner of
> the previous game "owns" the table and awaits the next contestant, which is
> fair enough, but then he also demands the advantage of first turn instead of
> flipping a coin to decide. In a dart game in Britain it's "Mug's away", the
> advantage is given to the previous loser as a sporting gesture.
> When the Iraqis were running away from Kuwait, defeated in the first Gulf
> War, Americans were still shooting them in the back like "fish in a barrel".
Yes yes YES... past few years it's been the Taliban running retreating
on their high speed donkeys, while the UN Armies on their asses arses
(i.e., Drone Pilots). We civilians get to, have to, cheer -- like
watching Roman gladiators fight for a meal.
> When the smartestphone (TM) first had
> cameras, one of my past employers issued an ultimatum, via global
> email, that no cameras were allowed on their premises. What were we
> all to do?! We couln't not carry our mobile phones for the real time
> business dependent on reaching us in a nanosecond or they'd smilingly
> escort you out the nearest door. Had a rule that we must return missed
> calls within ten minutes, 24/7. They were also eagerly and perpetually
> replacing the older experienced employees with new trainees just old
> enough to barely have been fresh out of diapers.
>
> ========================================
> Your boss was a fool, he can't stop technology.
Sadly, it was not a singular s/he boss. It took a committee.
> Who is watching the Watchers? Once, three years ago, I lost my wallet
> at a tennis store. Paid for my equipment and must've left the wallet
> at the counter after payment. I went back, only two hours later,
> having called the owner first, to the store to retrieve find my
> driver's license, credit cards, and cash. The store has had
> surveillance cameras all over. Warning signs as you enter. When the
> owner replayed the video of me shopping, the data suddenly was non-
> existent during the time of my purchase. CPU failure said the
> Proprietor. No data recorded of me having been there at all. Still
> dwell on that incident. Five days later my wallet arrived by mail,
> only all the substantial amount of cash was missing. Even my good luck
> $2 bill was taken from the secret compartment.
> ============================================
> Did you report it to the press?
No press. I just wrote it off as me being too careless. I tell my
friends and kids of the incident as if there's a greater moral lesson
to be gained from the experience. Like: Be cognizant of the
whereabouts of your only two dollar bill. Ok, maybe there's even a
greater lesson. Like: Romney is well aware of how many $2 bills we all
have access to, are entitled to, are allowed.
I should've mentioned my wallet came back in the mail with postage
due.
> The problem I see with "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" is that the
> Watchers always conspire to form some sort of clique that ends up
> involving some homogeneous set of people. Same culture, same IQ, same
> favorite colours, same secret hand wavings, etc... Ever wonder why all
> the policemen look alike, for example?
> ==============================================
> Juvenal's original statement was in reference to guarding young ladies
> from their suitors, but the guards were eagerly bonking the willing girls.
Yes, girls still remain a worldwide problem, will bonk without
reservations.
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
<LordAndroc...@November2012.org> wrote:
> "Mahipal" wrote in message
>
> news:cd7b57d3-b38d-4370...@w7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> On Nov 29, 6:46 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
[trim]
> "Mahipal" wrote in message
>
> news:cd7b57d3-b38d-4370...@w7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> On Nov 29, 6:46 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
>
> > Technology is only as smart as the stupid ones in control.
> > ===================================================
> > Perhaps the alarm is merely to remind the absent-minded but honest
> > shopper to return and pay for the goods rather than alert the security
> > guard of theft. Who knows, it may even be cost-effective not to have to
> > pay minimum wage to a bored watchman tempted by bling he's guarding
> > with nobody to watch HIM, and let a few items be stolen.
> > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? I guess this idea has resulted in
> cameras in every place possible.
>
> ====================================================
> It just came up again with Leveson mentioning it.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveson_Inquiry
> We need the press to keep an eye on the politicians, and I applaud Lassange
> for Wikileaks. Government is there for the people, the public should be told
> the truth. Not military secrets that an enemy could take advantage of, but
> the kind of information Wikileaks uncovered. On the other side of the coin
> we don't need the despicable phone hacking of a teenage murder victim so
> that the press can write sensationalism for profit. The first is ethical and
> the second immoral.
The Media and Law Enforcement, under the facade of Moral Social
> > Technology is only as smart as the stupid ones in control.
> > ===================================================
> > Perhaps the alarm is merely to remind the absent-minded but honest
> > shopper to return and pay for the goods rather than alert the security
> > guard of theft. Who knows, it may even be cost-effective not to have to
> > pay minimum wage to a bored watchman tempted by bling he's guarding
> > with nobody to watch HIM, and let a few items be stolen.
> > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? I guess this idea has resulted in
> cameras in every place possible.
>
> ====================================================
> It just came up again with Leveson mentioning it.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveson_Inquiry
> We need the press to keep an eye on the politicians, and I applaud Lassange
> for Wikileaks. Government is there for the people, the public should be told
> the truth. Not military secrets that an enemy could take advantage of, but
> the kind of information Wikileaks uncovered. On the other side of the coin
> we don't need the despicable phone hacking of a teenage murder victim so
> that the press can write sensationalism for profit. The first is ethical and
> the second immoral.
Police, also conspire to entrap Lindsay Lohan on a bimonthly basis.
Every time she has her period, the cameras and journalists are ready
for the kill. Poor girl. Here's a not really worth the reading link, I
won't bother tinyurl it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2241092/How-depressed-Lindsay-Lohan-drank-TWO-LITRES-vodka-day-nightclub-catfight-arrest.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
> Beware the Americans, they WILL shoot you in the back to win by any means,
> it's their culture. If you ever play pool in an American bar the winner of
> the previous game "owns" the table and awaits the next contestant, which is
> fair enough, but then he also demands the advantage of first turn instead of
> flipping a coin to decide. In a dart game in Britain it's "Mug's away", the
> advantage is given to the previous loser as a sporting gesture.
> When the Iraqis were running away from Kuwait, defeated in the first Gulf
> War, Americans were still shooting them in the back like "fish in a barrel".
on their high speed donkeys, while the UN Armies on their asses arses
(i.e., Drone Pilots). We civilians get to, have to, cheer -- like
watching Roman gladiators fight for a meal.
> When the smartestphone (TM) first had
> cameras, one of my past employers issued an ultimatum, via global
> email, that no cameras were allowed on their premises. What were we
> all to do?! We couln't not carry our mobile phones for the real time
> business dependent on reaching us in a nanosecond or they'd smilingly
> escort you out the nearest door. Had a rule that we must return missed
> calls within ten minutes, 24/7. They were also eagerly and perpetually
> replacing the older experienced employees with new trainees just old
> enough to barely have been fresh out of diapers.
>
> ========================================
> Your boss was a fool, he can't stop technology.
> Who is watching the Watchers? Once, three years ago, I lost my wallet
> at a tennis store. Paid for my equipment and must've left the wallet
> at the counter after payment. I went back, only two hours later,
> having called the owner first, to the store to retrieve find my
> driver's license, credit cards, and cash. The store has had
> surveillance cameras all over. Warning signs as you enter. When the
> owner replayed the video of me shopping, the data suddenly was non-
> existent during the time of my purchase. CPU failure said the
> Proprietor. No data recorded of me having been there at all. Still
> dwell on that incident. Five days later my wallet arrived by mail,
> only all the substantial amount of cash was missing. Even my good luck
> $2 bill was taken from the secret compartment.
> ============================================
> Did you report it to the press?
friends and kids of the incident as if there's a greater moral lesson
to be gained from the experience. Like: Be cognizant of the
whereabouts of your only two dollar bill. Ok, maybe there's even a
greater lesson. Like: Romney is well aware of how many $2 bills we all
have access to, are entitled to, are allowed.
I should've mentioned my wallet came back in the mail with postage
due.
> The problem I see with "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" is that the
> Watchers always conspire to form some sort of clique that ends up
> involving some homogeneous set of people. Same culture, same IQ, same
> favorite colours, same secret hand wavings, etc... Ever wonder why all
> the policemen look alike, for example?
> ==============================================
> Juvenal's original statement was in reference to guarding young ladies
> from their suitors, but the guards were eagerly bonking the willing girls.
reservations.
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Nov 30, 2012, 3:58:42 PM11/30/12
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"Mahipal" wrote in message
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Cheer while consuming cannabis, cocaine, tobacco and alcohol (brought back
when Prohibition failed), all of which are natural plant products like the
poppy grown in Afghanistan which must be eradicated by the blue-haired
little old ladies who go to church every Sunday! Praise the lord, and god
bless goddamn America.
Actually America would be a great country if it weren't for the Americans.
> When the smartestphone (TM) first had
> cameras, one of my past employers issued an ultimatum, via global
> email, that no cameras were allowed on their premises. What were we
> all to do?! We couln't not carry our mobile phones for the real time
> business dependent on reaching us in a nanosecond or they'd smilingly
> escort you out the nearest door. Had a rule that we must return missed
> calls within ten minutes, 24/7. They were also eagerly and perpetually
> replacing the older experienced employees with new trainees just old
> enough to barely have been fresh out of diapers.
>
> ========================================
> Your boss was a fool, he can't stop technology.
Sadly, it was not a singular s/he boss. It took a committee.
============================================
A giraffe is a horse designed by a committee of window cleaners.
> Who is watching the Watchers? Once, three years ago, I lost my wallet
> at a tennis store. Paid for my equipment and must've left the wallet
> at the counter after payment. I went back, only two hours later,
> having called the owner first, to the store to retrieve find my
> driver's license, credit cards, and cash. The store has had
> surveillance cameras all over. Warning signs as you enter. When the
> owner replayed the video of me shopping, the data suddenly was non-
> existent during the time of my purchase. CPU failure said the
> Proprietor. No data recorded of me having been there at all. Still
> dwell on that incident. Five days later my wallet arrived by mail,
> only all the substantial amount of cash was missing. Even my good luck
> $2 bill was taken from the secret compartment.
> ============================================
> Did you report it to the press?
No press. I just wrote it off as me being too careless. I tell my
friends and kids of the incident as if there's a greater moral lesson
to be gained from the experience. Like: Be cognizant of the
whereabouts of your only two dollar bill. Ok, maybe there's even a
greater lesson. Like: Romney is well aware of how many $2 bills we all
have access to, are entitled to, are allowed.
I should've mentioned my wallet came back in the mail with postage
due.
==================================================
I have done the same. Left a briefcase on a bus, never got it back.
Passport, driver's license, $50 in coin (winnings from a slot machine),
documents... oh well.
news:4fe86890-6859-4ad2...@r13g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
Cheer while consuming cannabis, cocaine, tobacco and alcohol (brought back
when Prohibition failed), all of which are natural plant products like the
poppy grown in Afghanistan which must be eradicated by the blue-haired
little old ladies who go to church every Sunday! Praise the lord, and god
bless goddamn America.
Actually America would be a great country if it weren't for the Americans.
> When the smartestphone (TM) first had
> cameras, one of my past employers issued an ultimatum, via global
> email, that no cameras were allowed on their premises. What were we
> all to do?! We couln't not carry our mobile phones for the real time
> business dependent on reaching us in a nanosecond or they'd smilingly
> escort you out the nearest door. Had a rule that we must return missed
> calls within ten minutes, 24/7. They were also eagerly and perpetually
> replacing the older experienced employees with new trainees just old
> enough to barely have been fresh out of diapers.
>
> ========================================
> Your boss was a fool, he can't stop technology.
Sadly, it was not a singular s/he boss. It took a committee.
A giraffe is a horse designed by a committee of window cleaners.
> Who is watching the Watchers? Once, three years ago, I lost my wallet
> at a tennis store. Paid for my equipment and must've left the wallet
> at the counter after payment. I went back, only two hours later,
> having called the owner first, to the store to retrieve find my
> driver's license, credit cards, and cash. The store has had
> surveillance cameras all over. Warning signs as you enter. When the
> owner replayed the video of me shopping, the data suddenly was non-
> existent during the time of my purchase. CPU failure said the
> Proprietor. No data recorded of me having been there at all. Still
> dwell on that incident. Five days later my wallet arrived by mail,
> only all the substantial amount of cash was missing. Even my good luck
> $2 bill was taken from the secret compartment.
> ============================================
> Did you report it to the press?
No press. I just wrote it off as me being too careless. I tell my
friends and kids of the incident as if there's a greater moral lesson
to be gained from the experience. Like: Be cognizant of the
whereabouts of your only two dollar bill. Ok, maybe there's even a
greater lesson. Like: Romney is well aware of how many $2 bills we all
have access to, are entitled to, are allowed.
I should've mentioned my wallet came back in the mail with postage
due.
I have done the same. Left a briefcase on a bus, never got it back.
Passport, driver's license, $50 in coin (winnings from a slot machine),
documents... oh well.
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Dec 2, 2012, 10:16:20 PM12/2/12
to
"Mahipal" wrote in message
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On Nov 25, 5:46 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You might want to check on where they took their certification exam:
>
> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/25/15430647-cheating-scandal-...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cje65ne
>
> This sort of thing makes me glad I'm an autodidact.
>
> Mark L. Fergerson
I've said it before, I'll say it again, I'll say it over and over
again... in fact just last night I was having drinks with Albert
Einstein... he kept talking and on and on... how nothing was light...
so I ordered me a double shot... turned to him and I emphatically
stated in no uncertain terms... banging my empty glass hard on the
maple wood bar... One Survives Being Educated!
BarKeep, please pour me just one more. Gots to drive past the light.
One who survived being educated... I hope... how would I even know?
=======================================================
My school taught language (English), 2nd language (German),
religion (xtianity), geography, history, mathematics, sports,
science (physics-chemistry-biology).
I believed English, was sceptical of German (do the German people
REALLY say that?), disbelieved religion, was neutral on geography
and history (political borders move, Prussia had vanished), loved
mathematics, hated sports, believed science.
Today I'm no longer sceptical of German, hate physical contact sports
but enjoy competition, believe 10% science.
I learnt chess in school and believed it, but never once read a book
on chess. Chess is a set of artificial rules which, if broken, are no longer
chess. Belief in chess is mandatory. Religion is a set of artificial codes
of conduct which, if broken, is a different religion. Belief is optional.
Did I survive being educated? First define education.
news:d862079f-d1a3-41e9...@e25g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 25, 5:46 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You might want to check on where they took their certification exam:
>
> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/25/15430647-cheating-scandal-...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cje65ne
>
> This sort of thing makes me glad I'm an autodidact.
>
> Mark L. Fergerson
again... in fact just last night I was having drinks with Albert
Einstein... he kept talking and on and on... how nothing was light...
so I ordered me a double shot... turned to him and I emphatically
stated in no uncertain terms... banging my empty glass hard on the
maple wood bar... One Survives Being Educated!
BarKeep, please pour me just one more. Gots to drive past the light.
One who survived being educated... I hope... how would I even know?
=======================================================
My school taught language (English), 2nd language (German),
religion (xtianity), geography, history, mathematics, sports,
science (physics-chemistry-biology).
I believed English, was sceptical of German (do the German people
REALLY say that?), disbelieved religion, was neutral on geography
and history (political borders move, Prussia had vanished), loved
mathematics, hated sports, believed science.
Today I'm no longer sceptical of German, hate physical contact sports
but enjoy competition, believe 10% science.
I learnt chess in school and believed it, but never once read a book
on chess. Chess is a set of artificial rules which, if broken, are no longer
chess. Belief in chess is mandatory. Religion is a set of artificial codes
of conduct which, if broken, is a different religion. Belief is optional.
Did I survive being educated? First define education.
Mahipal
Dec 3, 2012, 11:18:46 AM12/3/12
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On Dec 2, 10:16 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
write "belief" so many times in so few lines?
In the USA, "football" got redefined and redesigned, yet we boast of
being world champions. Never admitting nobody else plays. Chess is
complicated but entirely based upon an artificial set of rules. Yet
football is the measure of being an athlete and a chess master the
height of intelligence.
> Did I survive being educated? First define education.
Please if I wanted to redefine any words, I would've majored in
physics.
What I do hear and know is that we the people have too many inadequate
teachers and we our politicians daily insist we need more. Ergo, One
survives being Educated.
Excuse me for cutting and pasting from my British Dictionary:
education |ɛdjʊˈkeɪʃ(ə)n|
noun [ mass noun ]
1 the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction,
especially at a school or university: a course of education.
• the theory and practice of teaching: colleges of education.
• [ count noun ] a body of knowledge acquired while being educated:
his education is encyclopedic and eclectic.
• information about or training in a particular subject: health
education.
2 (an education) an enlightening experience: Petrus is a good workman—
it is an education to watch him.
DERIVATIVES
educationist noun
ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from Latin educatio(n-), from the verb educare
(see educate) .
education
noun
1 the education of children with special needs: teaching, schooling,
tuition, tutoring, instruction, coaching, training, tutelage,
drilling, preparation, guidance, indoctrination, inculcation,
enlightenment, edification, cultivation, development, improvement,
bettering.
2 a young woman of some education: learning, knowledge, literacy,
schooling, scholarship, enlightenment, cultivation, culture,
refinement; archaic letters. ANTONYMS ignorance.
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
<LordAndroc...@December2012.org> wrote:
> "Mahipal" wrote in message
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> On Nov 25, 5:46 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > You might want to check on where they took their certification exam:
>
> >http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/25/15430647-cheating-scandal-...
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> >http://tinyurl.com/cje65ne
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> > This sort of thing makes me glad I'm an autodidact.
>
> > Mark L. Fergerson
>
> I've said it before, I'll say it again, I'll say it over and over
> again... in fact just last night I was having drinks with Albert
> Einstein... he kept talking and on and on... how nothing was light...
> so I ordered me a double shot... turned to him and I emphatically
> stated in no uncertain terms... banging my empty glass hard on the
> maple wood bar... One Survives Being Educated!
>
> BarKeep, please pour me just one more. Gots to drive past the light.
>
> Enjo(y)...
> --
> Mahipalhttp://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/
> "Mahipal" wrote in message
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> news:d862079f-d1a3-41e9...@e25g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
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> On Nov 25, 5:46 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > You might want to check on where they took their certification exam:
>
> >http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/25/15430647-cheating-scandal-...
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/cje65ne
>
> > This sort of thing makes me glad I'm an autodidact.
>
> > Mark L. Fergerson
>
> I've said it before, I'll say it again, I'll say it over and over
> again... in fact just last night I was having drinks with Albert
> Einstein... he kept talking and on and on... how nothing was light...
> so I ordered me a double shot... turned to him and I emphatically
> stated in no uncertain terms... banging my empty glass hard on the
> maple wood bar... One Survives Being Educated!
>
> BarKeep, please pour me just one more. Gots to drive past the light.
>
> Enjo(y)...
> --
>
> One who survived being educated... I hope... how would I even know?
>
> =======================================================
> My school taught language (English), 2nd language (German),
> religion (xtianity), geography, history, mathematics, sports,
> science (physics-chemistry-biology).
> I believed English, was sceptical of German (do the German people
> REALLY say that?), disbelieved religion, was neutral on geography
> and history (political borders move, Prussia had vanished), loved
> mathematics, hated sports, believed science.
> Today I'm no longer sceptical of German, hate physical contact sports
> but enjoy competition, believe 10% science.
> I learnt chess in school and believed it, but never once read a book
> on chess. Chess is a set of artificial rules which, if broken, are no longer
> chess. Belief in chess is mandatory. Religion is a set of artificial codes
> of conduct which, if broken, is a different religion. Belief is optional.
Is it the end of the year Holiday Season feeling that forced you to
> One who survived being educated... I hope... how would I even know?
>
> =======================================================
> My school taught language (English), 2nd language (German),
> religion (xtianity), geography, history, mathematics, sports,
> science (physics-chemistry-biology).
> I believed English, was sceptical of German (do the German people
> REALLY say that?), disbelieved religion, was neutral on geography
> and history (political borders move, Prussia had vanished), loved
> mathematics, hated sports, believed science.
> Today I'm no longer sceptical of German, hate physical contact sports
> but enjoy competition, believe 10% science.
> I learnt chess in school and believed it, but never once read a book
> on chess. Chess is a set of artificial rules which, if broken, are no longer
> chess. Belief in chess is mandatory. Religion is a set of artificial codes
> of conduct which, if broken, is a different religion. Belief is optional.
write "belief" so many times in so few lines?
In the USA, "football" got redefined and redesigned, yet we boast of
being world champions. Never admitting nobody else plays. Chess is
complicated but entirely based upon an artificial set of rules. Yet
football is the measure of being an athlete and a chess master the
height of intelligence.
> Did I survive being educated? First define education.
physics.
What I do hear and know is that we the people have too many inadequate
teachers and we our politicians daily insist we need more. Ergo, One
survives being Educated.
Excuse me for cutting and pasting from my British Dictionary:
education |ɛdjʊˈkeɪʃ(ə)n|
noun [ mass noun ]
1 the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction,
especially at a school or university: a course of education.
• the theory and practice of teaching: colleges of education.
• [ count noun ] a body of knowledge acquired while being educated:
his education is encyclopedic and eclectic.
• information about or training in a particular subject: health
education.
2 (an education) an enlightening experience: Petrus is a good workman—
it is an education to watch him.
DERIVATIVES
educationist noun
ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from Latin educatio(n-), from the verb educare
(see educate) .
education
noun
1 the education of children with special needs: teaching, schooling,
tuition, tutoring, instruction, coaching, training, tutelage,
drilling, preparation, guidance, indoctrination, inculcation,
enlightenment, edification, cultivation, development, improvement,
bettering.
2 a young woman of some education: learning, knowledge, literacy,
schooling, scholarship, enlightenment, cultivation, culture,
refinement; archaic letters. ANTONYMS ignorance.
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"Mahipal" wrote in message
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1: to instruct especially in fundamentals or rudiments : teach
2: to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or
principle
Rhymes with INDOCTRINATE
abominate, adulterate, alienate...
news:c0766b28-d5f7-48cb...@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
2: to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or
principle
Rhymes with INDOCTRINATE
abominate, adulterate, alienate...
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