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Anthony Bright-Paul Makes a Contribution to the Latent Heat and Convection Myths
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James McGinn
Apr 29, 2016, 2:02:12 PM4/29/16
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http://principia-scientific.org/the-true-deniers/#comment-14021
Anthony Bright-Paul:
Average water vapor content in the troposphere is somewhere between 1% and 2%. If we assume 1% water vapor and we take the specific heat capacities, the latent heat in water vapor
James McGinn:
Do you deny that the boiling point of water is much higher than is available at the given pressures in the troposphere?
Do you deny that, therefore, this means any non-ice H2O in the atmosphere is always in the liquid phase and that, therefore, there is no phase transition between gaseous H2O and liquid H2O occurring in the atmosphere?
Do you deny that "latent heat" actually has to do with chemical reactions not phase changes?
Do you deny that the phrase "latent heat" was hijacked by meteorologists for dramatic effect and actually has nothing to do with anything occurring in the atmosphere?
Do you deny that, therefore, it's totally fallacious to refer to "latent heat of evaporation," in that this is actually a non-sequitor?
Anthony Bright-Paul:
This in turn would induce convection which moves heat away from the Earth's surface toward space.
James McGinn:
Do you deny that the notion that moist air convects up through dry air is dependent upon the impossible assumption that moisture in the atmosphere is gaseous?
Do you deny that since moist air convection is impossible that there must be some other mechanism that pulls moist air up higher in the atmosphere?
Do you deny that H2O has a surface tension that is greater than that of any other liquid?
Do you deny that spinning of microdroplets along wind shear boundaries would maximize the surface area of suspended microdroplets of H2O and, thereby, maximize its surface tension producing a plasma that is the basis of vortices that can conduct atmospheric flow?
https://climateofsophistry.com/2016/04/06/the-hydro-flask-challenge-to-anthropogenic-climate-change/#comment-26655
Anthony, I agree with the sprit of what you are saying here. But all the things you mentioned are things that anybody that is so inclined can look up on the internet. My point is that global warming is a dead issue. You are beating a dead horse. It persists not because of the weakness of knowledge but because of the strength of belief.
If you want to make a difference I suggest you redirect your efforts to something that isn't already well known.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/9pOqUbSs7vE/ioit5LS3DgAJ
Anthony Bright-Paul:
Average water vapor content in the troposphere is somewhere between 1% and 2%. If we assume 1% water vapor and we take the specific heat capacities, the latent heat in water vapor
James McGinn:
Do you deny that the boiling point of water is much higher than is available at the given pressures in the troposphere?
Do you deny that, therefore, this means any non-ice H2O in the atmosphere is always in the liquid phase and that, therefore, there is no phase transition between gaseous H2O and liquid H2O occurring in the atmosphere?
Do you deny that "latent heat" actually has to do with chemical reactions not phase changes?
Do you deny that the phrase "latent heat" was hijacked by meteorologists for dramatic effect and actually has nothing to do with anything occurring in the atmosphere?
Do you deny that, therefore, it's totally fallacious to refer to "latent heat of evaporation," in that this is actually a non-sequitor?
Anthony Bright-Paul:
This in turn would induce convection which moves heat away from the Earth's surface toward space.
James McGinn:
Do you deny that the notion that moist air convects up through dry air is dependent upon the impossible assumption that moisture in the atmosphere is gaseous?
Do you deny that since moist air convection is impossible that there must be some other mechanism that pulls moist air up higher in the atmosphere?
Do you deny that H2O has a surface tension that is greater than that of any other liquid?
Do you deny that spinning of microdroplets along wind shear boundaries would maximize the surface area of suspended microdroplets of H2O and, thereby, maximize its surface tension producing a plasma that is the basis of vortices that can conduct atmospheric flow?
https://climateofsophistry.com/2016/04/06/the-hydro-flask-challenge-to-anthropogenic-climate-change/#comment-26655
Anthony, I agree with the sprit of what you are saying here. But all the things you mentioned are things that anybody that is so inclined can look up on the internet. My point is that global warming is a dead issue. You are beating a dead horse. It persists not because of the weakness of knowledge but because of the strength of belief.
If you want to make a difference I suggest you redirect your efforts to something that isn't already well known.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/9pOqUbSs7vE/ioit5LS3DgAJ
James McGinn
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