Newtonian 1/r^2 failure - update!
Uncle Al
From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
experimental artifact."
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
Eric Gisse
Uncle Al wrote:
> <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
>
> From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> experimental artifact."
Is this related to your Eotvos experiment, or is it Something Else?
Uncle Al
>
> Uncle Al wrote:
> > <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
> >
> > From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> > length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> > experimental artifact."
>
> Is this related to your Eotvos experiment, or is it Something Else?
It is an entirely different inquiry, but it uses one vertical torsion
pendulum (different rotor and allied stuff). Eot-Wash is booked solid
for a year or more doing other than my stuff. We'll have PR Chinese
results from the full parity Eotvos experiment in quartz in
mid-September. If you favor simplicity, vote for Einstein. If you
favor generality, vote for Weitzenböck.
The 1 in 10^(12) difference/average sensitivity results come in late
this coming week. That is big enough to be believed and small enough
not to be disbelieved.
Bill Hobba
"Eric Gisse" <jow...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123982758.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Uncle Al wrote:
>> <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
>>
>> From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
>> length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
>> experimental artifact."
>
> Is this related to your Eotvos experiment, or is it Something Else?
I think it is something else. String and other theories involving new
dimensions have predicted deviations from the inverse square law at small
distances for some time and experimentalists have been looking for it. If
true it would be a discovery of major proportions as it would provide the
first direct evidence for the existence of other dimensions - see for
example Chapter 1.6 - Zee - QFT in a Nutshell - Inverse Square Law and the
Floating 3 Brane. Uncle Al can clarify but I suspect it is not related to
the affine torsion based theories Uncle Al's experiment is looking for
evidence of. To me what would be really interesting is if Uncle Al's
experiment did show torsion based theories were a better model and evidence
of extra dimensions was discovered because to the best of my knowledge such
theories reduce to GR - not torsion based theories.
Thanks
Bill
sue jahn
"Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:42FEA15D...@hate.spam.net...
> Eric Gisse wrote:
> >
> > Uncle Al wrote:
> > > <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
> > >
> > > From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> > > length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> > > experimental artifact."
> >
> > Is this related to your Eotvos experiment, or is it Something Else?
>
> It is an entirely different inquiry, but it uses one vertical torsion
> pendulum (different rotor and allied stuff). Eot-Wash is booked solid
> for a year or more doing other than my stuff. We'll have PR Chinese
> results from the full parity Eotvos experiment in quartz in
> mid-September. If you favor simplicity, vote for Einstein. If you
> favor generality, vote for Weitzenböck.
<<
The reason for gravitation to present two equivalent
descriptions is related to a quite peculiar property of
gravitation, the so called universality. Let us explore this
point in more details. Like any other interaction, gravitation
presents a description in terms of a gauge theory. In
fact, as mentioned above, teleparallel gravity is a gauge
theory for the translation group, with contortion playing
the role of force. On the other hand, universality of gravitation
means that all particles feel gravity the same. In
other words, particles with different masses feel a different
gravitational force in such a way that all these particles
acquire the same acceleration. As a consequence of
this property, it turns out to be possible to describe gravitation
not as a force, but as a deformation of spacetime.
More precisely, according to this view, a gravitational
field is
[*]supposed[*]
to produce a curvature in spacetime,
the gravitational interaction being achieved in this case
by letting test particles to follow the geodesics of spacetime.
This is the approach used by the general relativity
description of gravitation. It is important to notice that
only an interaction presenting the universality property
can be described by a geometrization of spacetime.
Instead of using the general relativity approach, the
basic purpose of this paper will be to use the teleparallel
approach to analyze the problem of a spin-2 field coupled
to gravity. The teleparallel approach will be used
to describe both the spin-2 field, and the gravitational
background field. The basic conclusion will be that the
Fierz picture constructed in [4] is naturally present in the
teleparallel construction. In this sense, we can say that
the teleparallel equivalent of general relativity appears to
be a natural framework to deal with the spin-2 theory. In
fact, the small perturbations of the tetrad field are shown
to reproduce correctly the behavior of the spin-2 field on
the flat Minkowski spacetime. The antisymmetric piece
of the tetrad turns out to be redundant, although taking
into account its explicit contribution makes the underlying
gauge symmetry more transparent. The generalization
for the presence of gravitation is straightforward,
and it represents an alternative way to describe the spin-2
particle interacting with an external gravitational field. >>
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0212078
http://www.kfa-juelich.de/zam/docs/autoren2002/gibbon
Sue...
http://www.users.qwest.net/~efotheringham/Media/internet%20dominatrix.jpg
Schoenfeld
Uncle Al wrote:
[remove]
Gravitational inverse square law violations have been well-known for
quite some time. The velocity of bodies on the disk portions of spiral
galaxies are empirically independent of their distance from galaxy
center:
V=(G M a0 )^1/4 where a0 is some constant.
Sam Wormley
Nothing wrong with gravitation...
Scientists Map Dark Matter, Prove Einstein Right
http://www.space.com/news/cosmic_shear_000512.html
Particle Dark Matter: Evidence, Candidates and Constraints
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0404175
Johnny Stonepegger
>> Is this related to your Eotvos experiment, or is it Something Else?
>
>I think it is something else. String and other theories involving new
>dimensions have predicted deviations from the inverse square law at small
>distances for some time and experimentalists have been looking for it. If
>true it would be a discovery of major proportions as it would provide the
>first direct evidence for the existence of other dimensions - see for
>example Chapter 1.6 - Zee - QFT in a Nutshell - Inverse Square Law and the
>Floating 3 Brane. Uncle Al can clarify but I suspect it is not related to
>the affine torsion based theories Uncle Al's experiment is looking for
>evidence of. To me what would be really interesting is if Uncle Al's
>experiment did show torsion based theories were a better model and evidence
>of extra dimensions was discovered because to the best of my knowledge such
>theories reduce to GR - not torsion based theories.
>
>Thanks
>Bill
If you however refer the the +real+ experiment by the Chinese group, then yes of cause it will reveal nothing.
Uncle Al has never done a physics experiment, and could not build the nice stuff as describes here
http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/shortr.html
and to measure the absolute value of G, a picture here:
http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/apparatus.JPG
if he wanted too, very much like that other well known physics fraud Albert Einstein.
That person never did a single experiment in his life, only -thought- experiments, and of cause his theories will be proven false.
That said, we thank Uncle Al for pointing out the links.
He is not dumb, he will get smarter over time.
J. Stonepegger
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Schoenfeld
The second sentence of the link I gave reads:
"The presence of this discrepancy is explained by astronomers as
pointing to the existence of dark matter in the halo of the galaxy.".
This is not the end of the story, and no where near it.
You are implying that there is direct evidence supporting Dark Matter
and that is a misrepresentation of the facts. More anomolous galaxy
motions approximated by some Dark Matter model doesn't count as direct
evidence. And since there is no such evidence, I would say gravitation
as understood has some problems.
AJW
experiments of these kinds attempting to demonstrate the validity of
string theory.
Douglas Eagleson
the world's gravity using the lever of the torsion balance is the Estov
experiment.
A predicate genius's conception only.
It is a trivial system.
A balancing is to be violated.
And when the term balance is used instead of the variable of the
torsion, a fairly different kind of equivalence is clearly proven
violated.
The existence of the experiment, proves Newston's equivalence is
incorrect.
A predicate genius has to come to grips with his need to go back to
school.
One side of theoretical physics is already recognizing the failure of
equivalence.
And the other side is sitting and testing Einstein's.
A GR equivalence is not Newton's version.
And to sit and disprove Einstein's with the experiment to disprove
Newton's is the state of the other side of theoretical physics.
A very clear interpretation of the experiment is given by this
Washington website.
And to discount a variable in the interpretation is the meaning of
scientific fallacy. The Washington website lies.
They know of the question and write, to cause their answer's truth.
They are the sad, sad, sad kind of people to never emulate as a
scientist.
And to sit and weigh the evidence in a lie is the division of
theoretical physics.
Douglas Eagleson
Gaithersburg, MD USA
Mike
Uncle Al wrote:
> <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
>
> From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> experimental artifact."
I bet one buck it is an artifact, either tracks passing from the near
by highway, or even the perseids meteor shower.
Such experiment will have to be repeated at least 3 times in 3
different parts of the world to have some significance.
But such desperate releases are good ways of insuring grant money will
be approved, usually, but not always.
A more important question is why the anomaly happening at these micro
scales? Why not at macro scales? What intervenes so that it vanishes at
larger scales?
If this is true, reality is much different than thought. It is probably
a bad joke.
Mike
Mike
Bill Hobba wrote:
> "Eric Gisse" <jow...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1123982758.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Uncle Al wrote:
> >> <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
> >>
> >> From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> >> length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> >> experimental artifact."
> >
> > Is this related to your Eotvos experiment, or is it Something Else?
>
> I think it is something else. String and other theories involving new
> dimensions have predicted deviations from the inverse square law at small
> distances for some time and experimentalists have been looking for it. If
> true it would be a discovery of major proportions as it would provide the
> first direct evidence for the existence of other dimensions - see for
> example Chapter 1.6 - Zee - QFT in a Nutshell - Inverse Square Law and the
> Floating 3 Brane. Uncle Al can clarify but I suspect it is not related to
> the affine torsion based theories Uncle Al's experiment is looking for
> evidence of. To me what would be really interesting is if Uncle Al's
> experiment did show torsion based theories were a better model and evidence
> of extra dimensions was discovered because to the best of my knowledge such
> theories reduce to GR - not torsion based theories.
Bull. Even at those scales, not even close to Planck scale,
measurements of position change are not "proper" but coordinate ones
and, of course, the clever, "local" manifestation of EP, cannot be
disproved in any way, by any experiment.
Thus, one could attribute these anomalies to arbitrary curving of
spacetime by some mass/energy distribution change of far galaxies or
even near obects, such as a hair drier of a teenager getting ready for
clubing.
Mike
Uncle Al
>
> "Eric Gisse" <jow...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1123982758.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Uncle Al wrote:
> >> <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
> >>
> >> From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> >> length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> >> experimental artifact."
> >
> > Is this related to your Eotvos experiment, or is it Something Else?
>
> I think it is something else. String and other theories involving new
> dimensions have predicted deviations from the inverse square law at small
> distances for some time and experimentalists have been looking for it. If
> true it would be a discovery of major proportions as it would provide the
> first direct evidence for the existence of other dimensions - see for
> example Chapter 1.6 - Zee - QFT in a Nutshell - Inverse Square Law and the
> Floating 3 Brane. Uncle Al can clarify but I suspect it is not related to
> the affine torsion based theories Uncle Al's experiment is looking for
> evidence of. To me what would be really interesting is if Uncle Al's
> experiment did show torsion based theories were a better model and evidence
> of extra dimensions was discovered because to the best of my knowledge such
> theories reduce to GR - not torsion based theories.
>
> Thanks
> Bill
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0307284
lays it all out thoroughly, succinctly, and with supporting
equations. Center of mass separations of 10-100 microns are
exceedingly interesting as tests of 1/r^2 Newtonian gravitation. That
Eot-Wash may have seen a *decrease* in gravitational interaction is
counter to everything proposed. Now they go back to see if it is true
signal or a felicitous concatenation of noise.
For all its justifiably acknowledged world-dominating physics
abilities, Eot-Wash is disappointing in material science. Large
mass/cm^2 in small thickess - DENSITY! - is not copper at d = 8.92
g/cm^3. Ta, d = 16.6 g/cm^3 and is a non-precious metal of commerce
that is easy to purify and fabricate. W, d = 19.35 g/cm^3, is very
difficult to obtain as a homogeneous 100% dense ingot. Gold is
pricey.
Special Relativity (no gravitation, G=0) becomes General Relativity
(with gravitation, G=non-zero value) by postulating the Equivalence
Principle: All local bodies free fall in vacuum identically, same
rate and parallel trajectories. The postulate is falsified - and
General Relativity with it - simply by presenting two *different*
bodies that reproducibly fall differently.
(We all know that relative velocity influences free fall behavior.
Photons fall with twice the acceleration of non-relativistic bodies.)
What does *different* mean? Every symmetry in physics is coupled to
a conserved property. A list of symmetries is a shopping list of
fundamental differences,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.htm#b21
Nobody has ever examined opposite parity test masses. Parity is
unitless and parity divergence has no physical measurement. Uncle Al
located a mathematician who, starting in 1999, could calculate the
parity divergence of a finite set of points (atoms).
Aside from the profounnd embarassment of an organic chemist having
done the skull sweat, the parity Eotvos experiment is wholly
unremarkable. Does a convex solid single crystal body of
enantiomorphic space group P3(1)21 quartz with three equal moments of
inertia fall identically to its parity inversion, enantiomorphic space
group P3(2)21 quartz?
The fun comes with the mathematics of parity divergence. Chirality
demands anisotropic mass distribution in space. Any empirical EP
violation falsifies General Relativity at its founding postulate. A
parity EP violation also falsifies Lorentz Invariance, taking down the
rest of physics with it.
Uncle Al's interest is in the parity Eotvos experiment and EP
violation. If there is a parity EP violation, others will argue the
sourcing, consequences, and theoretical embodiment of observation.
Uncle Al's participation will be in running more advanced versions to
narrow down the phenomenon's origins. A crystal can be chiral in
three different ways - formula unit, crystal structure, and space
group. Does atomic mass interact? Does body shape or configuration
interact - both of which appear in parity divergence math?
First, we see if there is a phenomenon to test.
Uncle Al
Yes and no. "Yes" if the antisymmetric piece couples to symmetric
targets. Left and right feet fit indistinguishably well into a given
sock. "No" if the antisymmetric piece couples to antisymmetric
targets. Left and right feet do NOT fit indistinguishably well into a
given shoe.
No test bodies used in 420 years of EP testing have been parity
divergent, (x,y,z) vs. (-x,-y,-z) being non-superposable. The first
such EP test, the full parity Eotvos experiment in quartz, is
currently running.
We will know the empirical truth by mid-September.
Uncle Al
>
> A torsion balance is present in the field of the earth. And to test
> the world's gravity using the lever of the torsion balance is the Estov
> experiment.
Idiot - Earth's gee exactly cancels in any Eotvos experiment
post-Dicke, 1964.
> Douglas Eagleson
> Gaithersburg, MD USA
You see yourself this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete6.jpg
The entire remainder of the planet sees you this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete3.png
Uncle Al
>
> Uncle Al wrote:
> > <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
> >
> > From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> > length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> > experimental artifact."
>
> I bet one buck it is an artifact, either tracks passing from the near
> by highway, or even the perseids meteor shower.
>
> Such experiment will have to be repeated at least 3 times in 3
> different parts of the world to have some significance.
>
> But such desperate releases are good ways of insuring grant money will
> be approved, usually, but not always.
>
> A more important question is why the anomaly happening at these micro
> scales? Why not at macro scales? What intervenes so that it vanishes at
> larger scales?
>
> If this is true, reality is much different than thought. It is probably
> a bad joke.
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0307284
Screw your ass into a chair and read.
Dirk Van de moortel
"Mike" <ele...@yahoo.gr> wrote in message news:1124032660.9...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Uncle Al wrote:
> > <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
> >
> > From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> > length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> > experimental artifact."
>
> I bet one buck it is an artifact, either tracks passing from the near
> by highway, or even the perseids meteor shower.
>
> Such experiment will have to be repeated at least 3 times in 3
> different parts of the world to have some significance.
>
> But such desperate releases are good ways of insuring grant money will
> be approved, usually, but not always.
>
> A more important question is why the anomaly happening at these micro
> scales? Why not at macro scales? What intervenes so that it vanishes at
> larger scales?
>
> If this is true, reality is much different than thought. It is probably
> a bad joke.
You mean a bad jke like
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Imbecile.html
or like
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/ImmortalFumbles.html
?
Dirk Vdm
Douglas Eagleson
A dependent variable exists that is claimed independent.
Mike
Uncle Al wrote:
> Mike wrote:
> >
> > Uncle Al wrote:
> > > <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
> > >
> > > From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> > > length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> > > experimental artifact."
> >
> > I bet one buck it is an artifact, either tracks passing from the near
> > by highway, or even the perseids meteor shower.
> >
> > Such experiment will have to be repeated at least 3 times in 3
> > different parts of the world to have some significance.
> >
> > But such desperate releases are good ways of insuring grant money will
> > be approved, usually, but not always.
> >
> > A more important question is why the anomaly happening at these micro
> > scales? Why not at macro scales? What intervenes so that it vanishes at
> > larger scales?
> >
> > If this is true, reality is much different than thought. It is probably
> > a bad joke.
>
> http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0307284
>
> Screw your ass into a chair and read.
>
thanks, good reference but really looks like a proposal for a grant
rather than a scientific paper. The thing is, as I understand it, that
the Casimir effect remains kind of "imbeded" in the data and must be
"subtracted out" some way. I am not sure they explain well how they
deal with that and whether the anomaly is not related to it.
Another more serious issue is that an ISL violation at small scales
does not necessarily support extra geometry, it may imply a broader
range of possibilities and neither, at the end of the day, implies a
violation of ISL itself, it may be a coupling effect of some kind that
superimposes itself. But of course, the result of such experiment, if
they are statistically significant, are important to QFT.
Mike
Mike
hey idiot, why do you have to pollute all serious conversation with
your nonsense, immature, childish staff?
I repeat: do you know of a mathemaqtically sound way of deriving the
Lorentz transformations?
A little lesson for you:
(1) y = ax is a bijective mapping. At x = 0, y = 0. That's fine. The
function maps R into R.
(2) If a = b = 0, then in a = bc, c can be anyrthing, any function of
any variable, except b = inf.
The statement that a = lambda x b, when a = b = 0 by definition, does
not have any physical significance but only algebraic symbolic value.
Mike
Dirk Van de moortel
"Mike" <ele...@yahoo.gr> wrote in message news:1124053047.5...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You Have No Idea What You Are Talking About ;-)
Keep digging, just like you dig yourself into oblivion on the
threads
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/a27832a9a1e8c6f7
and
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/1a138a282d3bcebb/a70bff7c6a1f4aa3#a70bff7c6a1f4aa3
Dig, pig, dig :-)
And besides, your breath smells.
Try washing it with cat piss.
Dirk Vdm
Androcles
Why would you respond to a troll with mathematics?
Do you imagine it can understand it?
Surely not!
Ignore the imbecile, you are only raising the noise-to-signal ratio.
Androcles.
Uncle Al
>
> A torsion canceled by the earth is the lie.
>
> A dependent variable exists that is claimed independent.
Drooling ineducable subliterate idiot,
Ann. Phys. (NY) 26 442 (1964)
Uncle Al
>
> Uncle Al wrote:
> > Mike wrote:
> > >
> > > Uncle Al wrote:
> > > > <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
> > > >
> > > > From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> > > > length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> > > > experimental artifact."
> > >
> > > I bet one buck it is an artifact, either tracks passing from the near
> > > by highway, or even the perseids meteor shower.
> > >
> > > Such experiment will have to be repeated at least 3 times in 3
> > > different parts of the world to have some significance.
> > >
> > > But such desperate releases are good ways of insuring grant money will
> > > be approved, usually, but not always.
> > >
> > > A more important question is why the anomaly happening at these micro
> > > scales? Why not at macro scales? What intervenes so that it vanishes at
> > > larger scales?
> > >
> > > If this is true, reality is much different than thought. It is probably
> > > a bad joke.
> >
> > http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0307284
> >
> > Screw your ass into a chair and read.
> >
>
> thanks, good reference but really looks like a proposal for a grant
> rather than a scientific paper.
Screw your ass into a chair and read. It is a complete overview of
the field to that date.
> The thing is, as I understand it, that
> the Casimir effect remains kind of "imbeded" in the data and must be
> "subtracted out" some way. I am not sure they explain well how they
> deal with that and whether the anomaly is not related to it.
Screw your ass into a chair and read. It is covered, with equations.
> Another more serious issue is that an ISL violation at small scales
> does not necessarily support extra geometry, it may imply a broader
> range of possibilities and neither, at the end of the day, implies a
> violation of ISL itself, it may be a coupling effect of some kind that
> superimposes itself. But of course, the result of such experiment, if
> they are statistically significant, are important to QFT.
The observation exists. That is what is important. Theory explaining
the observation is arbitrary. A sine wave and its polynomial fit are
arbitrarily exact over a chosen interval. The fun starts when theory
is challenged to predict outside its explicit fit. That is why
economics is such crap. HETEROSKEDASTICITY!
Bill Hobba
"Johnny Stonepegger" <J.pe...@example.com> wrote in message
news:42ff...@news.usenetzone.com...
> It Is Written:
>>> Is this related to your Eotvos experiment, or is it Something Else?
>>
>>I think it is something else. String and other theories involving new
>>dimensions have predicted deviations from the inverse square law at small
>>distances for some time and experimentalists have been looking for it. If
>>true it would be a discovery of major proportions as it would provide the
>>first direct evidence for the existence of other dimensions - see for
>>example Chapter 1.6 - Zee - QFT in a Nutshell - Inverse Square Law and the
>>Floating 3 Brane. Uncle Al can clarify but I suspect it is not related to
>>the affine torsion based theories Uncle Al's experiment is looking for
>>evidence of. To me what would be really interesting is if Uncle Al's
>>experiment did show torsion based theories were a better model and
>>evidence
>>of extra dimensions was discovered because to the best of my knowledge
>>such
>>theories reduce to GR - not torsion based theories.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Bill
> Dear Mr Clinton, the Uncle Al experiment is a so called "thought
> experiment".
Dear confused - It is a real experiment actually being performed.
> As is common with those kind of experiments the results differ greatly
> depending on the experimenter.
Thought experiments are by definition imaginary experiments done to
illuminate a physical principle or issue - they are not actual experiments.
However sometimes because the principle is important it is actually
performed eg electron double slit experiments.
> If you however refer the the +real+ experiment by the Chinese group, then
> yes of cause it will reveal nothing.
> Uncle Al has never done a physics experiment, and could not build the nice
> stuff as describes here
>
> http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/shortr.html
> and to measure the absolute value of G, a picture here:
> http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/apparatus.JPG
>
> if he wanted too, very much like that other well known physics fraud
> Albert Einstein.
My understanding is Uncle Al is not building or running it - I suspect
people with experience in experimental physics are.
> That person never did a single experiment in his life, only -thought-
> experiments, and of cause his theories will be proven false.
I suppose you would have said the same about Ertivos.
Bill
Bill Hobba
It is irrelevant. The theories predict it may be present at scales we can
reach.
> measurements of position change are not "proper" but coordinate ones
> and, of course, the clever, "local" manifestation of EP, cannot be
> disproved in any way, by any experiment.
Of course it can which is why Ertivos and others have looked for it. A
violation of the EP would be very interesting indeed. I believe in the EP
and do not suspect it will be violated. But beliefs are like bums -
everyone has one - and have about the same validity as the waste product
that comes out of them. Science is not concerned about beliefs, it is
concerned about correspondence with experiment. One experiment is worth
more than a million years of debate - especially debate based on the
numerous misconceptions you have posted over the years.
Bill
blart
The chiral idea and the inverse square idea?
Hmmmm?
"Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:42FE8FC2...@hate.spam.net...
> <http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/08/12/rumors-of-new-forces/>
>
> From Eot-Wash: "It is true that we are seeing an anomaly at shorter
> length scales but we have to show first that the anomaly is not some
> experimental artifact."
>
Uncle Al
>
> So when am I getting the credit for ideas Al?
> The chiral idea and the inverse square idea?
> Hmmmm?
Never. You are dunce, a fraud, and a whining insignificance.
Androcles
"blart" <walk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:A6RLe.85228$oJ.7...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
| So when am I getting the credit for ideas Al?
| The chiral idea and the inverse square idea?
| Hmmmm?
|
| "Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
| news:42FE8FC2...@hate.spam.net...
[snip crap]
Coward!
Androcles
Androcles
[snip crap]
Phraudulent phuckwit
Androcles
Dirk Van de moortel
"Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote in message news:%8PLe.7678$le3....@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
Let's just see how Mike Eleatis Bill Smith Undeniable responds to
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/38e3190ae2acf8eb
Warning for you: don't try to understand it before you
understand the meaning of x and t in these equations.
Meanwhile let's have a look at Androcles' understanding of equations:
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SetSolve2.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Persuasive.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AndroDistri.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Pythagoras.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/ToothlessBite....
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Competent.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/UseTrans.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Sheesh.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SetSolve.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/DivZero.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Think.html
and Androcles' understanding of square roots:
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/STILL.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/CanSpecify.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Nearly.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Quadratic.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/GrowUp.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Tautology.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Material.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/GIVEN.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PythagoRescue....
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SqrtRev.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/NegSqrt.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SqrtAnswers.html
and Androcles' understanding of exclusive ors:
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Gibberish.html
and Androcles' understanding of partial differential equations:
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PartialDiff.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PartialDiff2.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PartialDiff3.html
Dirk Vdm
Mike
You are exactly right Androcles. Just the fact that this person keeps
track of every post in this ng and others, maintains a website and
responds with links to it shows the incredible level of immaturity and
it is empirical evidence that he has no life, nothing serious to do. He
usually copies and pastes proofs from some book and likes to appear as
an expert.
I feel sorry about him. He needs to be treated by a psychiatrist, it is
obvious.
Mike
Dirk Van de moortel
"Mike" <ele...@yahoo.gr> wrote in message news:1124097406.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Androcles belongs in my 10% category.
You are somewhere in the 5% range - don't kid yourself ;-)
> post in this ng and others, maintains a website and
> responds with links to it shows the incredible level of immaturity and
> it is empirical evidence that he has no life, nothing serious to do. He
> usually copies and pastes proofs from some book and likes to appear as
> an expert.
So let's see how *you* respond to
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/38e3190ae2acf8eb
>
> I feel sorry about him.
You don't have to lie again to give more evidence of your
blatant dishonesty ;-)
Say, what will be your next name on this newsgroup?
Kostas Kakanapnos?
Dirk Vdm
Androcles
Psychiatrists treat patients in padded cells. Not being a psychiatrist,
I do not attempt to involve myself in a discipline I have no thorough
understanding of, it may be damaging to the patient.
Therefore I share your pity, but I do not attempt to treat him.
What little I do know of psychology and criminology tells me that
your attempt at a logical argument with him will only drive him further
insane, and lacking a padded cell where he can scribble his ramblings
on the walls without harming himself, the only sensible recourse
is isolation.
Clearly your statement "hey idiot, why do you have to pollute all
serious conversation with your nonsense, immature, childish staff?"
is spoken out of anger and frustration, and is the thrill he seeks.
George Hammond, a self-confessed psychotic, does much the
same thing. I ignore him also. Both are dedicated to raising the
noise-to-signal ratio of this newsgroup, Hammond is the more
successful.
The prisoner jeers at the guards, the mental patient taunts the doctors.
That is all they have left to express their own emotions, logic has left
them far behind many years previously.
I agree with you, moortel is in need of psychiatric treatment, and
naturally he isn't aware of that, but unless you are a skilled
practitioner in psychiatry (and I know I'm not) there is little you
or I can say or do for either one of them. Leave him to scribble his
epithets on his padded cell walls, only his fellow inmates will read
them anyway.
Androcles
Mike
I gather EP holding only "locally, is one of your misconceptions. But
again, when it suits you, EP holds only locally, when it does not, it
holds everywhere.
No Eotvos kind of experiment can prove or disprove Eistein's EP, only
can do that for Newton's version --- equivalence of inertial to
gravitational mass. Einstein's EP is a mathematical artifact, Newton's
EP is a statement about a law of nature.
Get it Hobba? or you need special tutoring?
Mike
Dirk Van de moortel
"Mike" <ele...@yahoo.gr> wrote in message news:1124115121.9...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Maybe Bill can tutor you in mathematics as well:
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dirt.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Imbecile.html
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/HiPsycho.html
Dirk Vdm
Dirk Van de moortel
"Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote in message news:%21Me.498$Wq4...@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
Nah, that's just insignificantly pitiful - somehow reminds me
of Tom Potter.
No, the real thrill comes from stuff like this:
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Androrgasm.html
Dirk Vdm
Bill Hobba
Well considering that the EP says gravity is equivalent to acceleration
locally it is hardly a misconception.
> But
> again, when it suits you, EP holds only locally, when it does not, it
> holds everywhere.
Tidal forces trivially show it holds only locally.
>
> No Eotvos kind of experiment can prove or disprove Eistein's EP,
>
No experiment can prove a conjecture. However, and trivially obviously at
that, if we find objects that accelerate differently in gravity over a
region with negligible variation then we have disproved the EP.
Bill
Bill Hobba
"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvand...@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote
in message news:v32Me.170025$p85.9...@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
I seem to recall I attempted it in some post as undeniable. He can not even
grasp the basics of calculus that as the partition is made finer and finer
in the sum of rectangles under a curve it can be made arbitrarily close to
the area and hence the integral.
Thanks
Bill
tdp...@gmail.com
As my pappy used to say,
you get better information from the horse's mouth,
than you do from a horse's ass.
If anyone wants to get good information about me,
I suggest they visit my web site,
or view the photos that I have posted on the net.
As regular readers of the newsgroups know,
Dork Moortel is a horse's ass,
who caters to his serious inferiority complex,
by taking cheap shots at newgroup poster,
and by maintaining a web site,
designed for the express purpose of trying to
demean the folks he feels inferior to.
If you like the stuf that comes out of a horses ass,
read the comments that Dork Moortel
makes about others.
On the other hand, if you want good information,
get it from the horse's mouth.
Why do some people attack messengers
rather than interact with folks
in a rational, intelligent, moral way?
Is it nature, (Genetics)
or is it nurture (Upbringing)?
I suggest that it would be helpful
for science to make a detailed study of this.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp100?
Sam Wormley
>
> As my pappy used to say,
> you get better information from the horse's mouth,
> than you do from a horse's ass.
>
Hey Potter, what are you doing back from the grave?
tdp...@gmail.com
Trying to expose the cheap shot artists and bushwhackers
like Dork Moortel, Double-A and Harry Hyena hanson,
Frankly I don't like to waste my time on the low life's
in the newsgroups, but it emboldens the sociopaths if
they get away with their cheap shots.
I don't want to see the animals running the zoo.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
hanson
news:DBFMe.259180$_o.42708@attbi_s71...
> Tom-Tom Potter tdp...@gmail.com wrote:
>> As my pappy used to say,
>> you get better information from the horse's mouth,
>> than you do from a horse's ass.
>>
> Hey Potter, what are you doing back from the grave?
>
AHAHA... Not from the grave, Sam. Tom came back
from Israel where he went to instigate the instigators.
ahaha... Sam, for crying out loud, don't you know that
instigators never die, hell, they don't even fade away.
Especially when they have a happy horse pappy, ...its
mouth, ass and all.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... I bet you,
Tom has instigated all the pappy, hoarse or not, in Israel.
ahaha... ahahanson
hanson
instigator, who just came back from his pilgrimage to Israel, where he
instigated with those instigators and then reported back to instigate in
news:1124273220.5...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > | > | > >
>> > | > | > > [**Edited for clarity**] Uncle Al and others wrote:
>> > | > | > > > Wash the anomaly to have some good ways
>> > | > | > > > of insuring grant money
>> > | > | > > If this is true, reality is much different than thought.
>> > | > | > > It is probably a bad joke.
>> > | > Ignore the imbecile, he is only raising the noise-to-signal ratio.
>> > | He usually copies and pastes proofs from some book and likes
>> > it is obvious. .... in padded cells.... where he can scribble his
>> > ramblings on the walls : "hey idiot" which is spoken out of anger
>> > and frustration, and is the thrill he seeks.
>> from http://paranoia/vdmoortel/dirks/Fumbled/orgasm
>> Dirk Vdm
>
[Tom Potter instigates]
> ...my pappy used to get better from the horse's mouth, than
> from a horse's ass, me, ....View the photos I have posted.
> Dork Moortel is a horse's ass, who [in] his serious inferiority
> complex, maintains a web site, for the express purpose of
> trying to feel inferior to the stuf that comes out of a horses
> ass, ... On the other hand, if you want good information,
> get it from the horse's mouth http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp100?
> Tom Potter
>
[hanson]
... what is that "100?"... Tom, are questioning your horse-pappy?
Anyway, Tom-Tom, it's good to have you back.... probably to the
grievous chagrin of the many Jews here..... AHAHHAHA... ahahaha...
So, Tom, cuz' your trip you missed out on essential, new info about
the instigators. Here is some news and tell us what Bush and your
Rumsfeld is supposed to do about it. Your political pappy-horse or
horse-pappy political advice is highly valued.. (as long as you don't
advocate the "you know what"... capice?!) .... Guess what, Tom:
== In the May 2005 "60 Minutes" interview by Mike Wallace,
Prez Vlad Putin stated that when the USSR disintegrated its
the Treasury was looted by: ** "All the looters were Jews."**
Wallace, a Jew himself, looked rather pleased if not proud....
but, interestingly in a re-broadcast on July 31, 2005 Wallace
did NOT repeat this video segment, but instead offered only a
watered down audio comment about these Russian "oligarchs"...
See how the instigators, instigate the instigators... and now, just
yesterday CNN HLN aired that they are going after YOUR wallet
again, Tom, demanding from the US another 2.3 Billions dollars
(atop of the annual $3-6 billion/year for the last 50 years) to pay for
the resettlement of those instigators,... in fully paid for new houses,
Tom,...ahahaha... AHAHAHA... How does that money-grab grab you
Tom? See, all you gotta do is to instigate and you get a new house.
Move to Israel, Tom... instigate and get a new, fully paid house...
Get with it, Tom.... Go buy a black silken Yarmulke, don it and post
it in http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp100/Jew ahahaha.. HAHAHAHA..
ahahaha... ahahahanson
Mike
Of course gravity is NOT equivalent to acceleration stupid.
Acceleration due to gravity is equivalent to inertial acceleration
according to EP. learn the difference, learn the importance of terms,
learn to physicists have to use precise terminology, otherwise, layman
like you end up with many misconceptions.
The word "gravity" describes a phenomenon stooooooooooooopid, for which
no hypothesis of its cause, up to this date, has been proven true.
>
> > But
> > again, when it suits you, EP holds only locally, when it does not, it
> > holds everywhere.
>
> Tidal forces trivially show it holds only locally.
I think you have serious problems pal.
>
> >
> > No Eotvos kind of experiment can prove or disprove Eistein's EP,
> >
>
> No experiment can prove a conjecture. However, and trivially obviously at
> that, if we find objects that accelerate differently in gravity over a
> region with negligible variation then we have disproved the EP.
No stoooooooooooooooooooooooooopid, how far can you see down the Planck
scale?
I think, like many othe rincopetent layman here, that you confuse the
Universality of Free Fall, with Einstein's EP version. Some do really
confuse that, like you stoooooooopid, but others use it to manipulate
the physics community and using a petitio principii, claim that since
violation has bnot been observed Einstein was right and EP is valid.
But you are not that sophisticated stooooooooooooooooooooopid, you are
just confused and incopetent.
Mike
Dirk Van de moortel
"Mike" <ele...@yahoo.gr> wrote in message news:1124295940.8...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
[snip]
> I think, like many othe rincopetent layman here, that you confuse the
> Universality of Free Fall, with Einstein's EP version. Some do really
> confuse that, like you stoooooooopid, but others use it to manipulate
> the physics community and using a petitio principii, claim that since
> violation has bnot been observed Einstein was right and EP is valid.
> But you are not that sophisticated stooooooooooooooooooooopid, you are
> just confused and incopetent.
Incooooooooooooooooooopetence at his best:
hanson
to crank himself and then to instigate that the was
> Trying to expose the cheap shot artists and bushwhackers
> like Dork Moortel, Double-A and Harry Hyena hanson,
> Frankly I don't like to waste my time on the low life's
> in the newsgroups, but it emboldens the sociopaths if
> they get away with their cheap shots.
>
posted your hatred against me here on 8:25 AM local
time without me giving you any rhyme nor reason for your
pappy comments. My 2 previous post appeared later on
8:53AM local time... and they were full of praise for you
and welcomed you back...ahahaha.. What did I do now that
you cranked yourself? Why and what are you instigating?
Tom, didn't your horse-pappy tell you that such low class
instigating can get easily get up your horse-pappy ass and
come out of your mouth....... AHAHAHAHA... did he now?
ahahahaha... ahahahanson
Bill Hobba
The EP says otherwise and it has yet to find experimental refutation.
> Acceleration due to gravity is equivalent to inertial acceleration
> according to EP.
You are making an irrelevant distinction
> learn the difference, learn the importance of terms,
> learn to physicists have to use precise terminology, otherwise, layman
> like you end up with many misconceptions.
I have. But from your posts it is obvious you have not.
>
> The word "gravity" describes a phenomenon stooooooooooooopid, for which
> no hypothesis of its cause, up to this date, has been proven true.
>
As usual your logic is erroneous. Saying gravity is locally equivalent to
acceleration is not postulating a cause for gravity. And indeed GR does not
postulate a cause - it says gravity is space-time curvature. Other
theories, such as string theory, do postulate a cause.
>
>>
>> > But
>> > again, when it suits you, EP holds only locally, when it does not, it
>> > holds everywhere.
>>
>> Tidal forces trivially show it holds only locally.
>
> I think you have serious problems pal.
You are an idiot, no you are the idiot, no it is you who is the idiot and so
it goes. As always in the final analysis those that read what is written
must form their own opinion.
>
>>
>> >
>> > No Eotvos kind of experiment can prove or disprove Eistein's EP,
>> >
>>
>> No experiment can prove a conjecture. However, and trivially obviously
>> at
>> that, if we find objects that accelerate differently in gravity over a
>> region with negligible variation then we have disproved the EP.
>
> No stoooooooooooooooooooooooooopid, how far can you see down the Planck
> scale?
>
> I think, like many othe rincopetent layman here, that you confuse the
> Universality of Free Fall, with Einstein's EP version. Some do really
> confuse that, like you stoooooooopid, but others use it to manipulate
> the physics community and using a petitio principii, claim that since
> violation has bnot been observed Einstein was right and EP is valid.
> But you are not that sophisticated stooooooooooooooooooooopid, you are
> just confused and incopetent.
A perusal of a number of your posts as catalogued by Dirk strongly suggests
it is you who lacks competence rather than the scientific community.
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/ImmortalFumbles.html
Bill
tdp...@gmail.com
hanson wrote:
> Potter pappy told Tom-Tom CrackPotter <tdp...@gmail.com>
> to crank himself and then to instigate that the was
> > Trying to expose the cheap shot artists and bushwhackers
> > like Dork Moortel, Double-A and Harry Hyena hanson,
> > Frankly I don't like to waste my time on the low life's
> > in the newsgroups, but it emboldens the sociopaths if
> > they get away with their cheap shots.
> >
> But, Tom-Tom, "it is interesting to see"... that you have
> posted your hatred against me here on 8:25 AM local
> time without me giving you any rhyme nor reason for your
> pappy comments.
No "hatred",
just applying a little "tit for tat"
to keep the bushwhackers and cheap shot artists at bay.
As can be seen from the following post,
Harry Hyena hanson bushwhacked me with a cheap shot
while I was on an extended trip
and out of touch with the newsgroups,
so I was just returning the favor.
quote
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 23:32:06 GMT
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ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... AHAHAHA...AHAHAHA... ahaha..
"Hellwut Wabnigger" aka "Helmut Wabnig" with his profound
Nazi/Hitler fetish and hang-up is still mad at me because I
made him walk into this one here:
<snip>
Helmut, you remind me more and more of Tom Potter, who
yearned to recruit me, for equally nefarious purposes just
like you do now! ....ahahaha... No Sale, Helmut... ahahaha...
Try harder. Become a better peddler for your notions...
Nevertheless, thanks for all the laughs, Helmut.... ahahaha..
...ahahahaha.....ahahaha... ahahahanson
unquote
=======
Schoenfeld
tdp...@gmail.com wrote:
> If anyone wants to get good information about me,
> I suggest they visit my web site,
> or view the photos that I have posted on the net.
A cursory review of your web page reveals complete madness.
hanson
Crackpotter <tdp...@gmail.com> cranked himself in message
news:1124323737....@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[Tom]
> **As can be seen** [ahahaha.. AHAHAHA]
> Harry Hyena hanson bushwhacked me....
>
[hanson]
... hm... hmmm... uhhh... haha... AHAHAHA... AHAHAHA....
Tom, you must be less than 7 or over 70 if this cranked you.
ahahaha.... Thanks for the laugh though.
Now then Tom, did this repost below crank you too, or are you
too chicken shit that you have not taken an honest stand on it.
From past experience this should be right up your alley. Or do
you hate Yarmulke folks that bad? Here it is again for your benefit:
Anyway, Tom-Tom, it's good to have you back.... probably to the
grievous chagrin of the many Jews here..... AHAHHAHA... ahahaha...
So, Tom, cuz' your trip you missed out on essential, new info about
the instigators. Here is some news and tell us what Bush and your
Rumsfeld is supposed to do about it. Your political pappy-horse or
horse-pappy political advice is highly valued.. (as long as you don't
advocate the "you know what"... capice?!) .... Guess what, Tom:
== In the May 2005 "60 Minutes" interview by Mike Wallace,
Prez Vlad Putin stated that when the USSR disintegrated its
the Treasury was looted by: ** "All the looters were Jews."**
Wallace, a Jew himself, looked rather pleased if not proud....
but, interestingly in a re-broadcast on July 31, 2005 Wallace
did NOT repeat this video segment, but instead offered only a
watered down audio comment about these Russian "oligarchs"...
See how the instigators, instigate the instigators... and now, just
yesterday CNN HLN aired that they are going after YOUR wallet
again, Tom, demanding from the US another 2.3 Billions dollars
(atop of the annual $3-6 billion/year for the last 50 years) to pay for
the resettlement of those instigators into fully paid for new houses,
Tom,...ahahaha... AHAHAHA... How does that money-grab grab you
Tom? See, all you gotta do is to instigate and you get a new house.
Move to Israel, Tom... instigate and get a new, fully paid house...
Get with it, Tom.... Go buy a black silken Yarmulke, don it and post
it in http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp100/Jew ahahaha.. HAHAHAHA..
ahahaha... ahahahanson
with a cheap shot
> while I was on an extended trip and out of touch with the
> newsgroups, so I was just returning the favor.
>> Potter pappy told Tom-Tom CrackPotter <tdp...@gmail.com>
>> to crank himself and then to instigate that the was
>> > Trying to expose the cheap shot artists and bushwhackers
>> > like Dork Moortel, Double-A and Harry Hyena hanson,
>> > Frankly I don't like to waste my time on the low life's
>> > in the newsgroups, but it emboldens the sociopaths if
>> > they get away with their cheap shots.
>> >
[hanson]
But Tom-Tom, you just lied. You did not waste your time, you
actually wasted no time at all in your anger to study my archive....
(see below under "Find messages by this author")... ahahaha..
ahahaha... AHAHAHA.... Thank you, Tom. You now have learned
where to get true wisdom from.... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA....
[Tom]
> **As can be seen** [ahahaha.. AHAHAHA] from the following
> post, Harry Hyena hanson bushwhacked me with a cheap shot
> while I was on an extended trip and out of touch with the
> newsgroups, so I was just returning the favor.
>
[hanson]
Awe... Awe...awe, Tom-Tom, I didn't know that I have hurt
your feelin's... ahahaha... Is that a "return to childhood" or a
geriatric affliction that you have become so sensitive... awe...
What a nice streak you have developed in your old days....
ahahaha... So then, Tom-Tom: Now do what you preach:
**** Apology to the Ladies! **** to whom you did so much
more and far worse than to bushwhack them: APOLOGIZE!
>
[quote by/from Tom-Tom's studying hanson's archive]
> =====
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.physics,
> sci.math, sci.chem
> From: "hanson" <han...@quick.net> -
> **** Find messages by this author ***
> Date: Sat, Aug 13 2005 7:32 am
> Subject:
> Re: Another myth of 'Islamic role in the History of Science'
> debunked.
> ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... AHAHAHA...AHAHAHA... ahaha..
> "Hellwut Wabnigger" aka "Helmut Wabnig" with his profound
> Nazi/Hitler fetish and hang-up is still mad at me because I
> made him walk into this one here:
> <snipped... ["German obscenities :::: you are one of them"
.....which Tom didn't mind, but this here now cranked Tom:]
> Helmut, you remind me more and more of Tom Potter, who
> yearned to recruit me, for equally nefarious purposes just
> like you do now! ....ahahaha... No Sale, Helmut... ahahaha...
> Try harder. Become a better peddler for your notions...
> Nevertheless, thanks for all the laughs, Helmut.... ahahaha..
> ...ahahahaha.....ahahaha... ahahahanson
> unquote
> =======
> Tom Potter
>
[hanson]
So, Tom-Tom, you do lie here, feint to have forgotten or simply
denie that to have repeatedly attepted to recruit me! ... Therefore
Tom-Tom, it is far from clear why you should call this a cheap shot
when in fact I used you as a similar sickly here pertinent reference
simply to highlight the contents &d intent of YOUR OWN NG actions.
Google for == "tdp + piss + ladies"== and refresh your conventlty
lost memory, Tom....... ahahahaha...
ahahaha... ahahahanson
PS: You and Helmut should become strange political fbedfellows
since you both have me now as your common enemy.... AHAHAHAHA....
Keep me informed whether you can convince Helmut to believe
that your role model Hilter was a "couragous leader" or wether
Helmut, a lover of your instagortrs, can convinve you that you are
an "Anti-Semite"..... ahahaha... Mind you that both of these buzz
words carry only wight these days with dmamaged goods, like
you 2 farts, being archaic and near fossilized politcal coprolites.
Carry on and report back... OBEDIENTLY!.... ahahahaha...
tdp...@gmail.com
As Schoenfeld points out,
"a cursory review of <my> web page"
might confuse someone ignorant of physics.
However, I am always more than happy
to address any issues that confuse
the "cursory" or the serious readers of my articles.
Perhaps she is bothered by the
unique Physical Property Chart on my web site,
that shows the relationships between the
physical properties, much as the Periodic Chart
shows the relationship between the elements.
Of course, a good background in physics
is required to comprehend the utility
of the property chart, but I will do the best I can
to address any questions that Schoenfeld has.
I will be looking forward to reading the
points that confuse and bother Schoenfeld,
and I will make every effort to help her.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
tdp...@gmail.com
hanson wrote:
> AHAHAHA... ahahaha ... and here is the reason why Tom-Tom
> Crackpotter <tdp...@gmail.com> cranked himself in message
> news:1124323737....@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> [Tom]
> > **As can be seen** [ahahaha.. AHAHAHA]
> > Harry Hyena hanson bushwhacked me....
> >
> [hanson]
> ... hm... hmmm... uhhh... haha... AHAHAHA... AHAHAHA....
>
> Tom, you must be less than 7 or over 70 if this cranked you.
> ahahaha.... Thanks for the laugh though.
>
> Now then Tom, did this repost below crank you too, or are you
> too chicken shit that you have not taken an honest stand on it.
> From past experience this should be right up your alley. Or do
> you hate Yarmulke folks that bad? Here it is again for your benefit:
>
> Anyway, Tom-Tom, it's good to have you back.... probably to the
> grievous chagrin of the many Jews here..... AHAHHAHA... ahahaha...
> So, Tom, cuz' your trip you missed out on essential, new info about
> the instigators. Here is some news and tell us what Bush and your
> Rumsfeld is supposed to do about it. Your political pappy-horse or
> horse-pappy political advice is highly valued.. (as long as you don't
> advocate the "you know what"... capice?!) .... Guess what, Tom:
>
> == In the May 2005 "60 Minutes" interview by Mike Wallace,
> Prez Vlad Putin stated that when the USSR disintegrated its
> the Treasury was looted by: ** "All the looters were Jews."**
> Wallace, a Jew himself, looked rather pleased if not proud....
> but, interestingly in a re-broadcast on July 31, 2005 Wallace
> did NOT repeat this video segment, but instead offered only a
> watered down audio comment about these Russian "oligarchs"...
>
> See how the instigators, instigate the instigators... and now, just
> yesterday CNN HLN aired that they are going after YOUR wallet
> again, Tom, demanding from the US another 2.3 Billions dollars
> (atop of the annual $3-6 billion/year for the last 50 years) to pay for
> the resettlement of those instigators into fully paid for new houses,
> Tom,...ahahaha... AHAHAHA... How does that money-grab grab you
> Tom? See, all you gotta do is to instigate and you get a new house.
> Move to Israel, Tom... instigate and get a new, fully paid house...
> Get with it, Tom.... Go buy a black silken Yarmulke, don it and post
> it in http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp100/Jew ahahaha.. HAHAHAHA..
> ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
>
>
>
>
>
It is interesting to observe
that I called Harry Hyena hanson
on his childish, bushwhacking cheap shot
while I was touring the world,
and as can be seen,
he got all bent out of shape,
and in his fury made many irrational posts.
What causes people to be so irrational, emotional,
and hostile (Not to mention dishonest)?
Is it nature,
or nurture,
or old age,
or paranoia,
or glue sniffing,
or bad teeth,
or constipation,
or an inferiority complex,
or an unhappy marriage,
or working around chemicals or radioactive stuff?
Join with me hanson in building bridges
between individuals, races, religions and nations.
Find out what causes you to be nasty,
and give up your old ways.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
Uncle Al
>
> AHAHAHA... ahahaha ...
> ... hm... hmmm... uhhh... haha... AHAHAHA... AHAHAHA....
> ....
> ..... AHAHHAHA... ahahaha...
> ... capice?!) ....
>
> ...ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
> ...
> ....
> ahahaha.. HAHAHAHA..
> ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
> ....
> ... ahahaha..
> ahahaha... AHAHAHA....
> .... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA....
>
> [ahahaha.. AHAHAHA]
>
> Awe... Awe...awe,
> ... ahahaha...
> ... awe...
> ....
> ahahaha...
> ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... AHAHAHA...AHAHAHA... ahaha..
> ....ahahaha...
> ... ahahaha...
> ...
> .... ahahaha..
> ...ahahahaha.....ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
> ...
> ....... ahahahaha...
> ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
> .... AHAHAHAHA....
> ..... ahahaha...
> ... OBEDIENTLY!.... ahahahaha...
Idiot.
hanson
"Uncle Al" aka urinAl <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> the self-admitted
"real stupid fool and uptight mooch" peeled out of my post, again
***habitually*** now, all the:
>> .... AHAHAHAHA....
>> ..... ahahaha...
... since laughter does irk him to no end, even more then it
irritates all the other lesser idiots of incandescent "real stupid
fools and uptight mooches". So, urinAl leading that morose
band went to work and as predicted:
>> ... OBEDIENTLY!....
...did he do the peeling some 72 times more ....
>> .... ahahahaha...
... and then, finally, urinAl ex uncleAl saw the light and he
labeled himself "empirically" as:
> Idiot.uncle Al
>
ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha.. but, the real expectation
that urinAl has is his request, expressed in his "heterodox" and
"socially maladroit way", to see yet another repeat of his CV....
ahahaha.... Here it comes, (for urinAl cannot piss without it):
> Kevin Long wrote:
>> So, just because Dick Face [Al] posts a link it must be good?
>> His [Al's] problem is that everything he reads on the internet he trusts.
>> That should tell you all really what were are dealing with here.
>> Stupidity runs wild ... inside his, [Al's] head ...
>
[Al]
> Another critic troll brainfarts. No contribution, only complaint.
>
> [hanson]
> ahahaha... AHAHAHA... But, Al, Kevin did NOT criticize you.
> He evaluated you. That is a contribution of no less value than
> is your retort to him. It looks like you are complaining more than
> he does... ahahaha... ... Either way, Al, how come you are so
> touchy and sensitive lately?... Your divorce?... The China thing?
> what?.... ahahaha... ahahanson
> PS: Do me the honors now again Al, and peel out carefully
> and painstakingly all the "ahaha... AHAHAs". It is good therapy
> for you..... and it makes me go: AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
> Idiot.Uncle Al.
>
[hanson]
.... ahahaha... hanson's hook in Al's mouth is working like a charm...
Al is following hanson's therapy exactly as ordered... ... ahahaha...
AHAHAHA.... ahahaha... and so, as requested by uncle Al
here are more of his urinAl diamonds:
in news:EDaEe.2429$0C....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net
that contains the whole Roast with tidbits like this:
Let's never forget that Al's nemesis, Archibald Plutonium, made
it into the "Discovery Magazine" but smart Al Schwartz never did.
ahahaha... AHAHAHA.... ahahaha:..... perhaps because urinAl
was caught in the act of blatantly PLAGIARIZING as in
news:lVLte.7304$NX4....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
with lots of other great "ahahaha... AHAHAHA..." stuff like in
news:405F4425...@hate.spam.net where Al insists that
"You cannot imagine what it is like for the Gifted to be immersed in a
society of people like yourself." .... urinAl continued in his same post with:
"Orange County Mensa (top 2% for entry) has at least two members with
IQs in excess of 190. One is a slumbunny elementary school teacher,
the other is an unemployed programmer."... ... ...and then there is you,
urinAl, who must have learned at your Mensa club how to Menstruate.
ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... AHAHAHA.... ahahanson
[hanson reminded Al now for the nth time about]
news:Uyque.7820$hK3....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net
wherein it said:
--------->
" Whenever you see someone commenting about "ahaha...
AHAHAHA" you know right off the bat that you've got a real
stupid fool & uptight mooch on your hands worth having big
time fun with".
<--------
ahahaha... AHAHAHA.... AHAHAHA... ahahaha...
------ The whole Roast of uncle Al Schwartz's farts -----
"Richard Schultz" <sch...@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote in message
news:dbofg0$teq$1...@news.iucc.ac.il... in a kinda angry fashion
to uncle Al. But Richard missed that he started a great post for
an outright hilarious ROAST for uncle Al....... ahahaha... AHAHA...
Let's never forget that Al's nemesis, Archibald Plutonium, made
it into "Discovery Magazine" but smart Al Schwartz never did.
ahahaha... AHAHAHA.... ahahaha:
> In article <42DFBD65...@hate.spam.net>,
Uncle Al <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> :> : We're three weeks into the three month full parity
> :> : Eotvos experiment run, Schultzy.
> :>
> : Richard Schultz wrote:
> :> You said that the results would be obtained by August.
> :> What happened?
>
[Al]
> : Science. Learn how to do a clean experiment -
> : and what to do if it isn't clean when you try it.
>
[Richard]
> Interesting how your story keeps changing, as it always does.
> So when are we going to see those kg-sized diamonds?
>
[Al]
> :> : Here's a challenge for you, inorganiker. Two Co(3+) chelated
> :> : by three1,2-ethylenebis-5,5-(2,2'-bipyridyl) ligands form a nice
> :> : threefold helicate, total charge +6. Propose a reasonably
> :> : isomorphous helicate-forming ligand that gives me a
> :> : corresponding -6 charge as counterion.
>
[Richard]
> :> First you can give us a reference for your claim that the Wisconsin
> :> cryptosporidium outbreak was due to EPA regulations about
> :> chlorination of water.
>
[Al]
> : Fine, you can't do it. Uncle Al will propose what he has.
>
[Richard]
> I take it that you now admit that you cannot provide any references for
> any of the statements to which I referred (reasonably enough, since
> all of them were manifestly untrue). Too bad that you (like most bullies)
> are essentially a coward and lack the guts to admit that you were wrong.
>
> It's really too bad that you avoided taking the opportunity to go to
> Vietnam (using your time much more productively by flunking out of
> grad school). It would have given you such a great chance to beat up
> on people who had the great disadvantage of not being Caucasian.
> And your well-known disdain for authority would have come in handy
> when your platoon voted on whether or not to frag the lieutenant.
>
[hanson]
Al said in news:3C3743DB...@hate.spam.net... that he got a
B.Sc. in chemistry from Moo U and then he became an industrial chemist,
apparently never getting into the upper echelons, which may be the reason
why he attacks and denigrates "management" on every occasion. But, may
be that was not his fault because of the industrial accident that he suffered
which could have turned him into damaged goods with some peculiar
personality disorders. So, Rich, be not too hard onto uncle Al for his
particular cross that he bears. It may be much heavier then normal ones....
and it may be chirally twisted... as he himself complains (see below).
[Richard]
> It really bothers you [Al] that you can't bully me, doesn't it. Perhaps it
> should bother you more that not only are you incapable of calculating
> time zone differences, you don't even know the difference between an
> inorganic and a physical chemist.
> Richard Schultz, sch...@mail.biu.ac.il, Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University,
> Israel
> -----
[Richard quotes Al]
> "A mensch takes personal responsiblity for his actions.
> When demonstrated to be empirically wrong a mensch
> admits error and becomes a better mensch." "Uncle Al"
> Schwartz, in news:41D0A0BA.BCF76...@hate.spam.net
>
[hanson]
But Richard,.... ahahaha... you must understand that Al never makes
mistakes, lies or changes his stories... Al is **evolving**, which means
that he and his opinions do change...... AHAHAHA.... for reasons
beyond his control, of course... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahaha...
So, since you, Richard, talked about "us" let me say that I actually like
uncle Al's less abridged CV much better. It provides more laughs...
for one can ask "Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net , who is so full
of piss & HAc: "Hey, you!... UncleanAl... UncleAn0... yo!, UrinAl"....
== If you are as smart as you say you are and claim to have
the right answer to everything, then how come that you all you
can afford is a 1989 Volks wagon Golf GL(1) ... ahahaha
.... smart, really smart, urinAl....... ahahaha... AHAHAHA....
== If you are as smart as you say you are then how come
that your wife made you file for divorce (2) ... ahahaha...
... smart, really smart, urinAl....... ahahaha... AHAHAHA....
== If you are as smart as you say you are then how come
that a laugh like : "AHAHAHA..... ahaha... AHAHAHA....." (3)
does crank you more that it cranks lesser idiots?... ahahaha...
... smart, really smart, urinAl....... ahahaha... AHAHAHA....
(1) in news:3D7A9CE2...@hate.spam.net ... Al says:
"1989 VW Golf GL.... for at least another 11 years."
(2) news:gHIhe.1857$Ri4....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
(3) news:YQdCe.4327$dU3...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
(4) news:lVLte.7304$NX4....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
says PLAGIARIZER "Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> did it AGAIN!
(5) news:405F4425...@hate.spam.net where Al insists that
"You cannot imagine what it is like for the Gifted to be immersed in a
society of people like yourself." .... urinAl continued in his same post with:
"Orange County Mensa (top 2% for entry) has at least two members with
IQs in excess of 190. One is a slumbunny elementary school teacher,
the other is an unemployed programmer."...and then there is you, urinAl,
...who must have learned at your Mensa club how to Menstruate.
.... AHAHAHA... ahaha... in news:424DFC9D...@hate.spam.net...
"Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> aka Schwartz sneered out of his
urinAl at poster Schoenfeld:
>Al: " I, am the right hand of vengeance."
>Al: " I, am the last living thing you are ever going to remember."
>Al: " I am truth incarnate. GOD SENT ME. "
.. ahaha... so, God sent an avenging loudmouth, the size of an urinAl
into the world, as in news:3F32CB6D...@hate.spam.net.. ,
to state: "Uncle Al was a professional sperm donor.... I did 6 cm^3
and got applause." .... Al never stated how many dozens of shots
it took him to get the 6 cc's... ahahaha..... AHAHAHA... but, after
said fun and applause was over he announced in his message
news:3F32A21A...@hate.spam.net...
"Uncle Al votes "no." No kids." ..... Kinda sad, as this made him
bitter in his old age now and he is showing that in his posts, saying:
news:3FFB5004...@hate.spam.net... (kill geriatics),
news:3FE0CDA8...@hate.spam.net... (Death)
... and in news:3B7FD4C9...@hate.spam.net Al vows to
"Fuck the poor, stupid, and crippled. Invest in the future you want."
and so Al did in "a 1989 VW Golf GL for at least another 11 years."
....... ahahaha... AHAHAHA....ahaha..... AHAHAHAHAHA.....
More & to your credit, Al, you've invented a cockroach repellant
but never sold any of it ..... and then you announced that you are
going to produce gem quality kilogram sized diamonds, from
about 1996 to 2005, to be grown in your "Devil Solvent", apparently
a very, very slow growth medium/matrix, which could explain why
none of your diamonds have reached neither the karat and much
less the kg size state ... yet...... ahahaha..... AHAHAHA.....
So, no $$ from cockroaches nor from the devil, but like a true searcher,
and as an "autodidact", you, Al, decided to take on Einstein, in a chiral
fashion, to prove him wrong..... after you saw that Wei Tou-Ni group
of the NTHua Uni in Taiwan[?] or (PR China [?]. Stray thought 7/12/05)
were conducting an Eotvoes XP. The results will be in, per your own
prognosis, mid September 2005. ----- Then a stroke of true geniuos
hit you in news:42CC8382...@hate.spam.net... on July 06,
2005, when you stated: "I, [Al] looked to sci.physics as a resource
to massage heterodox but empirically allowable ideas. I have no
imaginable use for the toolbox past mid-September" ... ahahaha....
I must give credit where credit due, Al. That is a brilliant exit strategy!
ahahaha... AHAHAHA....
Now, tell me why I shouldn't ROTFLMAO....ahaha... AHAHAHAHA....
over all this. You are fucking funny, Al. Hilarious actually. But, not
much else. ---- And, for all those laughs that you have provided you
are entitled to be Al Schwartz, the one "stooopid idiot", .... ahahaha....
.....which will bring great distress to your chief admirer & disciple
Herbie Glaser aka "G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net>
AHAHAHAHA...... ahahahaha.... AHAHAHA....... carry on, Al....
There must be laughter in the world, or we turn out like you, Al,
but anyway, Thanks for all the laughs, Al.....ahahaha.... AHAHAHA....
Al, write fucking book, a distillation of your posts... and make some
money, finally . If I am in your neighborhood, I'll be there at the
book signing and make propaganda for you...... ahahahaha....
Richard, see: Al is a very great humanitarian, to boot. Al gives advice to
anybody whether they like it or not, and he becomes excruciatingly
grief-stricken and mad when your laugh at him. All these faults you see
in Al "empirically", do not matter because he compensates for them in
full when he mentors his grateful NG disciples who are mostly lazy and
"stooopid" students for whom Al does their homework, only to turn around
and to bitch loudly and complain that the educational system is bad....
ahahaha... ahahahanson
Thanks for the laughs, you guys...... ahahaha....
ahahaha.... ahahanson
hanson
news:1124368326.5...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Join with me hanson in building bridges
> between individuals, races, religions and nations.
>
.... ahahaha... For mercy's sake I snipped your monochrome
horse-pappy sermon. Only after I see from you, Tom Potter,
an apology addressed to the ladies then we can perhaps begin
to talk about your "bridge building"... but until then you will remain
a phony swine with only one thing to your credit: You really did:
" Carry on and report back... OBEDIENTLY! ".... ahahahaha...
You have fine company now, Tom. He will adore your physics,
helping him building urinAls before bridges.... ahahaha....
ahahaha... ahahanson
PS:
urinAl had such a philosophical loud-mouth just like you do,
Tom, when he exclaimed:
== "A mensch takes personal responsiblity for his actions.
== When demonstrated to be empirically wrong a mensch
== admits error and becomes a better mensch." "Uncle Al"
== Schwartz, in news:41D0A0BA.BCF76...@hate.spam.net"
See Potter, you guys are just squealing windbags, all earnest,
humorless loudmouths... but idiots incapable of following your
own loudmouthed advice and pontifications.... ahahahaha...
----------- APOLOGIZE to the ladies, Tom! -------------
Androcles
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
news:pz8Ne.8233$WD....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
You seem to have Auntie Alice pegged, Hanson.
Just a suggestion, but it might even be funnier for your audience if you
reduced your own printed laughter a tad. Maybe it's because I'm British,
but we prefer a little subtlety in our jokes, for example:
Three lady friends always meet for lunch on Thursdays.
One Thursday Anne says, "There's this thing, when
I go down on my John, his balls are always cold."
"Funny you should say that", says Mary. "my Franks balls are always cold
too.
"EEAUUWWWWWWGHHHHHH" says Rose, "thats disgusting. How can you both do
that?
So her friends tell Rose that the blow job is the best way to keep her
man from straying.
The following Thursday Anne and Mary are in the resturant waiting for
their friend to arrive.
In walks Rose with a huge black eye.
"What happened to you"? ask her two friends.
"Mike hit me". came the reply.
Why? ask the girls.
"I don't know", says Rose, "I was giving him the blow job like you told
me to and all I said was your balls aren't cold like Frank and Johns".
Androcles
hanson
*** $$$$$$$*** [hanson reminded Al now for the nth time about]
[Androcles]
> You seem to have Auntie Alice pegged, Hanson.
> Just a suggestion, but it might even be funnier for
> your audience if you reduced your own printed
> laughter a tad. Maybe it's because I'm British,
>
[hanson]
.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... but, Andro, I didn't have to
peg neither Auntie Alice aka urinAl ex-uncle Al. He did
it all by himself. He makes me laugh, and if my laughter
is too much for you too, then that's perhaps because you
have too much of that legendary British upper stiff lip ...
But me, I am hanging loose, and I give credit where credit
is due... with a loud and lengthy laughter... like ahahaha...
AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha..
ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahahahaha... ahahaha...
...uninhibited, unabashed and unabridged....AHAHAHA...
>
[Androcles]
> Maybe it's because I'm British,
> but we prefer a little subtlety in our jokes,
>
[hanson]
... AHHhh... that quaint British way of understatement...
ahahahaha... ahahaha.... I like that also. It's funny too.
Thanks for the laughs, Andro,... ahahaha...
ahahaha... ahahahanson
PS: Andro, for your future reference and use be advised of
the cautionary statement *** $$$$$$$*** that you can see in
my post ABOVE. It mentions quite overtly that in
news:Uyque.7820$hK3....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net
it said therein :
--------->
" Whenever you see someone commenting about "ahaha...
AHAHAHA" you know right off the bat that you've got a real
stupid fool & uptight mooch on your hands worth having big
time fun with".
<--------
Andro, don't do like/copy what your bosom buddy urinAl does.
ahahaha... AHAHAHA.... AHAHAHA... ahahaha...
donsto...@hotmail.com
by non-cooperative idiots who live empty, useless lives and should be
ground up into dog food. Oh, well, off to one of the other endless
groups available now that the Global Brain is locked-in and fully
mature. Darelen, another pecan, please. I need to send an email to
neuron (node) Zarl Fiskinsky in Canberra. Have a nice day.
hanson
like Don Stickelgruber aka Little Hitler that got hot under his collar in
news:1124415576....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
ahaha.. Is it the "non-cooperative" bit that so worms and cranks you?
Yours is one of the funnier posts that appeared here for some time.
ahahaha... AHAHAHA...AHAHAHA... you, the neuro(n/tic) in/of your
Global Brain fanaticism certainly shows, by the contends of your post ,
that you are an example why the Global Brain has currently a fever
or inflammation..... for it is not clear at all why and whom you complain
about with your Hitlerian affections for Darelen that appears to be your
dog that fetches pecans for you, in exchange for dog food from ground
up humans. What is clear though is that your post is supposed to be
a departure notice... AHAHAHAHA... indicating that you do not have
enjoyed a nice day at all. That is a shame!... ahahahaha.. AHAHAHA...
ahahahah... Therefore, here is some sorely needed therapy for you:
Go in front of a mirror, put a comb over your upper lip, click your
heels, give the Nazi salute and yell "Heil Hitler" until you are hoarse...
It will make you feel much much better than e-mailing to a neuro(tic)
node in Canberra.... ahahahaha....AHAHAHA... ahahaha...
Maybe, if you'd explained your Global brain concept better then more
people would have listened to you. It's actually a very intriguing, very
ancient concept and quite certain, but it has never caught on for the
very, VERY reasons that you have expressed in your own lines above.
You are a substandard peddler for your product, just like Tom Potter.
(who is going to whine now again, like a 7 year old: "hanson bushwhacked
me).... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... Improve your Salesmanship, argue the
merits of the Global brain... but NOT by advocating to grind up humans
into dog food. .... Remember: what goes around comes around and to
boot, be careful what you wish for, it just may happen to yourself....
ahahaha... ahahahanson
PS: Was it this post below that evoked within you those rabid Nazi notions
that you've ejaculated above. What was it exactly that bent you out shape,
beside your feeling that you were left out of the loop... out in the cold?....
ahahahaha.... Here it is again, for your personal benefit:
news:npaNe.7076$Wi6....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net It said:
Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote in message
news:OW8Ne.973$jr4...@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
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> the Casimir effect remains kind of "imbeded" in the data and must be
> "subtracted out" some way. I am not sure they explain well how they
> deal with that and whether the anomaly is not related to it.
>
> Another more serious issue is that an ISL violation at small scales
> does not necessarily support extra geometry, it may imply a broader
> range of possibilities and neither, at the end of the day, implies a
> violation of ISL itself, it may be a coupling effect of some kind that
> superimposes itself. But of course, the result of such experiment, if
> they are statistically significant, are important to QFT.
So were your concerns put to rest?