FR Per. Prec. + Light Bending
Phil Bouchard
already see different result from standard Newtonian arithmetics and
Finite Relativism in the second tab:
http://www.fornux.com/personal/philippe/fr/fr.exe
The time dilation factor in direction to the Sun has been canceled.
Only the orthogonal time dilation factor to the planet - Sun vector is
considered. This doesn't change much the perihelion precession of
Mercury (from 2.5e-7 to 8e-7) but does impact light bending.
-Phil
eric gisse
> I have implemented light bending into the FR simulator and we can
> already see different result from standard Newtonian arithmetics and
> Finite Relativism in the second tab:
> http://www.fornux.com/personal/philippe/fr/fr.exe
Nobody is stupid enough to run an executable.
>
> The time dilation factor in direction to the Sun has been canceled.
> Only the orthogonal time dilation factor to the planet - Sun vector is
> considered. This doesn't change much the perihelion precession of
> Mercury (from 2.5e-7 to 8e-7) but does impact light bending.
So FR is wrong. Again.
Why even post?
>
>
> -Phil
Sam Wormley
That makes about as much sense as putting a smaller wheel on the front
of your bicycle so's you can be going down hill all the time.
Hey Phil, See: Physics FAQ: Are There Any Good Books on Relativity Theory?
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/rel_booklist.html
Welcome back to get your nose bloodied some more, Phil. You must really
like the process (even be addicted to it) to be posting your drivel here
again. Potter does the same thing.
Phil Bouchard
>
> Nobody is stupid enough to run an executable.
Once again my name is on it, there is no virus. If you don't trust me
run it on Doug's machine.
> So FR is wrong. Again.
>
> Why even post?
I'm currently adjusting it; when I reduce the time tick of the light
bending calculation I get a more important difference.
This is an update.
Phil Bouchard
>
> That makes about as much sense as putting a smaller wheel on the front
> of your bicycle so's you can be going down hill all the time.
>
> Hey Phil, See: Physics FAQ: Are There Any Good Books on Relativity
> Theory?
> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/rel_booklist.html
>
> Welcome back to get your nose bloodied some more, Phil. You must really
> like the process (even be addicted to it) to be posting your drivel here
> again. Potter does the same thing.
Sam does not know GPS is about to get replaced by Google Navigator:
http://www.google.com/mobile/navigation/index.html#p=default
Which makes Relativity even more useless than it is. Say goodbye to
Eric Gisse's prosperity.
Dono.
>
> Which makes Relativity even more useless than it is.
Delusions, delusions.
BURT
Light bending is a parabola path in gravity aether.
Mitch Raemsch
Simple Simon
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>> That makes about as much sense as putting a smaller wheel on the
>> front of your bicycle so's you can be going down hill all the time.
>>
>> Hey Phil, See: Physics FAQ: Are There Any Good Books on Relativity
>> Theory?
>>
>> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/rel_booklist.html
>>
>> Welcome back to get your nose bloodied some more, Phil. You must
>> really like the process (even be addicted to it) to be posting
>> your drivel here again. Potter does the same thing.
>
> Sam does not know GPS is about to get replaced by Google Navigator:
> http://www.google.com/mobile/navigation/index.html#p=default
From the link above:
"Google Maps Navigation is an internet-connected GPS navigation system with
voice guidance."
Dono.
>
Imbecile, Google Navigator is BASED on GPS.
PD
> eric gisse wrote:
>
> > Nobody is stupid enough to run an executable.
>
> Once again my name is on it, there is no virus.
Phil, pardon me, but this assurance of nothing.
PD
>
> Sam does not know GPS is about to get replaced by Google Navigator:http://www.google.com/mobile/navigation/index.html#p=default
Phil, please. Can't you try a little harder not to be such an obvious
idiot? Google Navigator is *based* on GPS, which in turn *relies* on
relativity.
Sam Wormley
>
> Sam does not know GPS is about to get replaced by Google Navigator:
> http://www.google.com/mobile/navigation/index.html#p=default
>
Phil, Phil, how can you be so utterly stooopid!
Enter Google; Exit Microsoft, Stage Left
http://www.gpsworld.com/lbs/enter-google-exit-microsoft-stage-left-9128?print=1
November 11, 2009
By: Kevin Dennehy
LBS Insider Newsletter, November 2009
Google Maps Navigation will change the way the location-based services industry does
business. How it will change the industry remains to be seen, but a major player offering
the same services for free that companies are now enjoying much profit from is very
disconcerting.
In other company news, MSN Direct’s use of unused FM radio spectrum was a great idea in
2004. It effectively used unused portions of the FM radio spectrum to deliver such
location-based services as real-time traffic, weather, and other content. It was a victim
of low-cost and evolving technology for LBS delivery. Having Microsoft involved in LBS was
a big shot in the arm for the industry. However, it remains to be seen what the company’s
plans are to continue in the LBS space in the near future.
Despite industry observers and competitors who say otherwise, Google’s launch of its
Google Maps Navigation product will clearly change the players, services offered, and
financial stability of the location-based services market. The service, while being touted
as free, still requires initial users on the Verizon system to have requisite voice and
data plans.
With such capability as turn-by-turn navigation, voice guidance, and automatic re-routing,
Google Maps Navigation is no entry-level app that competitors should ignore. Google Maps
Navigation initially is being offered on the Android 2.0 series devices.
Companies have seen this type of service coming from Google for a long time and predicted
some dire times for both personal navigation device (PND) companies and handset navigation
vendors who offer services in a very lucrative market.
Some say that Google, which dropped Tele Atlas as its mapping company for North America in
early October (though kept the company’s mapping data for international markets), will
make money off of location-based ads that are sold in conjunction with the navigation
solution. The company purchased mobile advertising company, AdMob, for $750 million,
though it is not known whether it AdMob will be joining the location-based advertising
fray in conjunction with Google Maps Navigation — but the speculation is there.
Stay tuned, the fireworks and fallout from this announcement are yet to be determined.
MSN Direct to Be Shut Down in 2012
Microsoft’s recent decision to shut down MSN Direct in early 2012 not only means that a
major company’s location-based services offering is going away, but also signals that the
way LBS is delivered is rapidly evolving. MSN Direct, launched in early 2004, was offered
on several navigation devices, such as Garmin’s Nuvi line.
MSN Direct works with unused FM radio spectrum to broadcast such data as real-time
traffic, weather, stock quotes, and local gas prices. Microsoft said that the demand for
the service had decreased significantly with the rise of Wi-Fi cellular, FM RDS (Radio
Data System), and other digital networks.
The data networks that deliver traffic and other content to mobile and in-car devices are
going through a significant evolution, said Scott Sedlik, Inrix’ vice president of
marketing. “MSN Direct was an innovative service early on and did provide value-added
information, but ultimately is a casualty of getting stuck between other networks that
were able to deliver more scale…less expensively.”
Sedlik said that RDS-TMC (Traffic Message Service) continues to be the dominant broadcast
network for delivering traffic in North America and Europe. “Clear Channel’s Total Traffic
Network has the broadcast adoption with more than 1 million subs from BMW, Mini, TomTom
and other PNDs, OEMs. Navteq’s RDS-TMC network has grown from a few thousand subs to
several hundred thousand based on their ad-supported model that is bundled with Garmin
PNDs at retail,” he said.
Sedlik said that XM/Sirius traffic data services, delivered via satellite, have had some
success in automotive. “However, the high subscription price and Sirius’ financial
stability have created significant concerns at auto OEMs regarding the long-term viability
of the services,” he said. “HD radio broadcast data services, and [Digital Audio
Broadcasting] in Europe, are still in their infancy, but are expected to deliver broadcast
services next year. MSN Direct ultimately got squeezed between the various business
models and content of these one-way broadcast services.”
While one-way broadcast services may be dominant right now, the end-game is two-way
connectivity for delivery of traffic, navigation, and other services, Sedlik said. “The
iPhone and, soon, Android-based devices are creating a revolution in the classical mobile
value chains. They are spurring intense adoption of GPS-enable smartphones,” he said.
“Two-way connectivity and the evolving value chain allow application developers, and OEMs,
to deliver incredibly rich, up-to-date, and personalized traffic, navigation, weather and
other content in ways that were previously not financially viable.”
Microsoft said it will provide pro-rated refunds for existing MSN Direct customers,
including those in a one-time payment program.
So while MSN Direct is shutting down, Sedlik predicts that RDS-TMC continues to grow in
the next few years in terms of overall subscriptions, but will ultimately decline over
time. He said that HD radio will gain some adoption, particularly in automotive to steal a
share of the market from satellite operators. “GPRS and GSM, as well as hyrbird HD/GPRS
solutions, will gain the majority of the market opportunity,” he said.
Echoing Sedlik’s remarks about the rise of the smartphone as the platform of choice to
deliver traffic and other content, Andre Gueziec, Beat the Traffic CEO and founder, said
that wireless data plans are going down in cost for 3G and 4G service. “We see the
smartphone as the key client for traffic information. We are moving aggressively with
consumer and white-label products for Blackberry and the iPhone,” he said.
Phil Bouchard
>
> Phil, pardon me, but this assurance of nothing.
I haven't spent a year to get flagged as a hacker, how about that?
eric gisse
> eric gisse wrote:
>>
>> Nobody is stupid enough to run an executable.
>
> Once again my name is on it, there is no virus. If you don't trust me
> run it on Doug's machine.
Oh, so I should run an executable from you just because you say there isn't
a virus?
I run linux. How am I supposed to run your windows program that depends on
windows binaries?
>
>> So FR is wrong. Again.
>>
>> Why even post?
>
> I'm currently adjusting it; when I reduce the time tick of the light
> bending calculation I get a more important difference.
>
> This is an update.
Why not post to a blog then?
"11/13, still wrong. Check back tomorrow".
eric gisse
Phil, you really don't get the objection do you?
Post the source code and I'll consider running it.
eric gisse
It's been so long since I saw something so breathtakingly stupid that it
actually took my breath away.
FYI Phil, my professional aspirations lie in information technology. And
amusingly enough, I know more about *two* entire fields than you.
PD
Sorry, Phil, but your avowals of personal integrity just don't cut it.
What hacker doesn't say "Trust me"?
eric gisse
Phil simply isn't aware of the relevant issues.
I wonder if he'd run an executable I'd like to send him.
Phil Bouchard
>
> From the link above:
> "Google Maps Navigation is an internet-connected GPS navigation system with
> voice guidance."
You said it yourself: "internet-connected GPS navigation system".
That's a GPS replacement using a triangular cell phone tower locater.
Phil Bouchard
>
> I run linux. How am I supposed to run your windows program that depends on
> windows binaries?
Use a Windows emulator.
[...]
PD
What is breathtaking about this is your pathological compulsion to
return to the same place where you continue to bring abuse down on
yourself.
What I suggest is that you review how many times you've spent a span
of effort here, and how at the end of each one of those efforts, you
vowed that you would take your ideas elsewhere and not bother trotting
them out here again. And off you'd go, muttering and fuming. And then
a month or so later, you return, having forgotten your avowals and
your embarrassments and your flustered blustering. It's like the
college student who enrolls, then drops all classes when failure looks
imminent, then returns again the following semester to enroll again,
drops all classes again, enrolls again the following semester, drops
all classes again, and so on. What are you learning from this
exercise?
PD
alie...@gmail.com
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>
> > That makes about as much sense as putting a smaller wheel on the front
> > of your bicycle so's you can be going down hill all the time.
>
> > Hey Phil, See: Physics FAQ: Are There Any Good Books on Relativity
> > Theory?
> > http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/rel_booklist.html
>
> > Welcome back to get your nose bloodied some more, Phil. You must really
> > like the process (even be addicted to it) to be posting your drivel here
> > again. Potter does the same thing.
>
> Sam does not know GPS is about to get replaced by Google Navigator:http://www.google.com/mobile/navigation/index.html#p=default
I did not know that Google Navigator was GPS-driven. But I
_immediately_ suspected it when you said the one would replace the
other, your track record being what it is.
> Which makes Relativity even more useless than it is. Say goodbye to
> Eric Gisse's prosperity.
Your track record being what it is, Gisse should run out and buy a
lottery ticket.
Mark L. Fergerson
Phil Bouchard
>
> Sorry, Phil, but your avowals of personal integrity just don't cut it.
> What hacker doesn't say "Trust me"?
Given that hacking is a fraud, I don't think I would share my name in
this case.
PD
Phil, tell you what: Put your address and phone number here so we can
verify your identity, and then we'll decide whether putting your
"name" on any statement is worth anything.
PD
Phil, please. I just asked you to try harder not to be so obviously
stupid, and you just seem to be obsessed with digging the hole deeper.
Phil Bouchard
>
> What is breathtaking about this is your pathological compulsion to
> return to the same place where you continue to bring abuse down on
> yourself.
>
> What I suggest is that you review how many times you've spent a span
> of effort here, and how at the end of each one of those efforts, you
> vowed that you would take your ideas elsewhere and not bother trotting
> them out here again. And off you'd go, muttering and fuming. And then
> a month or so later, you return, having forgotten your avowals and
> your embarrassments and your flustered blustering. It's like the
> college student who enrolls, then drops all classes when failure looks
> imminent, then returns again the following semester to enroll again,
> drops all classes again, enrolls again the following semester, drops
> all classes again, and so on. What are you learning from this
> exercise?
That you are overconfident. I hope you agree on Darwin's natural
selection theory at least.
Phil Bouchard
>
> Phil, tell you what: Put your address and phone number here so we can
> verify your identity, and then we'll decide whether putting your
> "name" on any statement is worth anything.
You can't, but the federal can.
PD
Yes, I do, and I see that you are a classic example of random
variation. Whether or not this variation enhances likelihood of
survival and progeny is yet to be seen. The way things are going, it
appears that you are doing your best to remove yourself from the gene
pool.
PD
PD
Is this what happens when the cog slips while you are typing?
PD
Here we are, back to your "any attention, even negative attention, is
better than no attention" disorder.
Things not going well at home?
Phil Bouchard
>
> Here we are, back to your "any attention, even negative attention, is
> better than no attention" disorder.
>
> Things not going well at home?
PD is speaking for himself.
PD
Uh, no, not really. I don't seem to be drawing the negative attention
the way you are, Phil.
This may tell you something.
BURT
The first truth is the negative truth about yourself.
I see this fits you people.
Mitch Raemsch
Phil Bouchard
>
> Uh, no, not really. I don't seem to be drawing the negative attention
> the way you are, Phil.
> This may tell you something.
PD suddenly ran out of scientific arguments. Furthermore I feel I am
jeopardizing PD's virtues, so you will never agree unless natural
selection says so.
eric gisse
Really Phil, you think "GPS" means "cell phone" ?
eric gisse
So you expect me to install a windows emulator just to run an untrusted
binary to see something which doesn't even make correct predictions?
I think my afternoon plans of NCIS and the development of a command/control
suite for a botnet is a better plan.
eric gisse
Phil, there was no science involved to begin with. Your OP explained that
your theory doesn't make the correct prediction.
So how are things going at home?
BURT
Slow time effects light. Gravity is the one force with its own time.
Mitch Raemsch
Phil Bouchard
>
> Phil, there was no science involved to begin with. Your OP explained that
> your theory doesn't make the correct prediction.
>
> So how are things going at home?
Well I spent 2 short evenings writing it this week, I probably created a
mistake but I still am in the same order and I already get something out
of light bending.
PD
> PD wrote:
>
> > Uh, no, not really. I don't seem to be drawing the negative attention
> > the way you are, Phil.
> > This may tell you something.
>
> PD suddenly ran out of scientific arguments.
There is nothing scientific in your thread to argue about.
There are a number of factual errors you've made about GPS and Google,
however.
> Furthermore I feel I am
> jeopardizing PD's virtues, so you will never agree unless natural
> selection says so.
Natural selection makes people agree on things?
Hmmm, Phil, it seems you are moving from making factual errors about
GPS to making factual errors about evolution.
Phil Bouchard
[...]
> Natural selection makes people agree on things?
> Hmmm, Phil, it seems you are moving from making factual errors about
> GPS to making factual errors about evolution.
I just want everybody knowing PD:
- Agrees parallel universes does not make any sense
- Agrees Einstein GR plagiarism likeliness equals 94%
- Agrees Einstein was accused of domestic violence many times
- Wouldn't give GR $5
eric gisse
Do you mean other than the attention you seek?
eric gisse
> PD wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Natural selection makes people agree on things?
>> Hmmm, Phil, it seems you are moving from making factual errors about
>> GPS to making factual errors about evolution.
>
> I just want everybody knowing PD:
> - Agrees parallel universes does not make any sense
That's quantum mechanics. Einstein argued against it.
PD
Oh, now, Phil, you'll have to point to where I agreed to any of this
stuff.
Is the problem related to dosage?
PD
You seem to be degrading even more quickly than usual.
It MUST be a medication issue that brought you back here in such a
weakened state.
Phil Bouchard
>
> That's quantum mechanics. Einstein argued against it.
Well yes, he both agreed and disagreed with it; just like his
cosmological constant. So according to you, in both cases that makes
him right?
xxein
> Phil Bouchard wrote:
>
> > Sam does not know GPS is about to get replaced by Google Navigator:
> >http://www.google.com/mobile/navigation/index.html#p=default
>
>
> Enter Google; Exit Microsoft, Stage Left
> http://www.gpsworld.com/lbs/enter-google-exit-microsoft-stage-left-91...
>
> November 11, 2009
> By: Kevin Dennehy
> LBS Insider Newsletter, November 2009
>
> Google Maps Navigation will change the way the location-based services industry does
> business. How it will change the industry remains to be seen, but a major player offering
> the same services for free that companies are now enjoying much profit from is very
> disconcerting.
>
> In other company news, MSN Direct’s use of unused FM radio spectrum was a great idea in
> 2004. It effectively used unused portions of the FM radio spectrum to deliver such
> location-based services as real-time traffic, weather, and other content. It was a victim
> of low-cost and evolving technology for LBS delivery. Having Microsoft involved in LBS was
> a big shot in the arm for the industry. However, it remains to be seen what the company’s
> plans are to continue in the LBS space in the near future.
>
> Despite industry observers and competitors who say otherwise, Google’s launch of its
> Google Maps Navigation product will clearly change the players, services offered, and
> financial stability of the location-based services market. The service, while being touted
> as free, still requires initial users on the Verizon system to have requisite voice and
> data plans.
>
> With such capability as turn-by-turn navigation, voice guidance, and automatic re-routing,
> Google Maps Navigation is no entry-level app that competitors should ignore. Google Maps
> Navigation initially is being offered on the Android 2.0 series devices.
>
> Companies have seen this type of service coming from Google for a long time and predicted
> some dire times for both personal navigation device (PND) companies and handset navigation
> vendors who offer services in a very lucrative market.
>
> Some say that Google, which dropped Tele Atlas as its mapping company for North America in
> early October (though kept the company’s mapping data for international markets), will
> make money off of location-based ads that are sold in conjunction with the navigation
> solution. The company purchased mobile advertising company, AdMob, for $750 million,
> though it is not known whether it AdMob will be joining the location-based advertising
> fray in conjunction with Google Maps Navigation — but the speculation is there.
>
> Stay tuned, the fireworks and fallout from this announcement are yet to be determined.
>
> MSN Direct to Be Shut Down in 2012
> Microsoft’s recent decision to shut down MSN Direct in early 2012 not only means that a
> major company’s location-based services offering is going away, but also signals that the
> way LBS is delivered is rapidly evolving. MSN Direct, launched in early 2004, was offered
> on several navigation devices, such as Garmin’s Nuvi line.
>
> MSN Direct works with unused FM radio spectrum to broadcast such data as real-time
> traffic, weather, stock quotes, and local gas prices. Microsoft said that the demand for
> the service had decreased significantly with the rise of Wi-Fi cellular, FM RDS (Radio
> Data System), and other digital networks.
>
> The data networks that deliver traffic and other content to mobile and in-car devices are
> going through a significant evolution, said Scott Sedlik, Inrix’ vice president of
> marketing. “MSN Direct was an innovative service early on and did provide value-added
> information, but ultimately is a casualty of getting stuck between other networks that
> were able to deliver more scale…less expensively.”
>
> Sedlik said that RDS-TMC (Traffic Message Service) continues to be the dominant broadcast
> network for delivering traffic in North America and Europe. “Clear Channel’s Total Traffic
> Network has the broadcast adoption with more than 1 million subs from BMW, Mini, TomTom
> and other PNDs, OEMs. Navteq’s RDS-TMC network has grown from a few thousand subs to
> several hundred thousand based on their ad-supported model that is bundled with Garmin
> PNDs at retail,” he said.
>
> Sedlik said that XM/Sirius traffic data services, delivered via satellite, have had some
> success in automotive. “However, the high subscription price and Sirius’ financial
> stability have created significant concerns at auto OEMs regarding the long-term viability
> of the services,” he said. “HD radio broadcast data services, and [Digital Audio
> Broadcasting] in Europe, are still in their infancy, but are expected to deliver broadcast
> services next year. MSN Direct ultimately got squeezed between the various business
> models and content of these one-way broadcast services.”
>
> While one-way broadcast services may be dominant right now, the end-game is two-way
> connectivity for delivery of traffic, navigation, and other services, Sedlik said. “The
> iPhone and, soon, Android-based devices are creating a revolution in the classical mobile
> value chains. They are spurring intense adoption of GPS-enable smartphones,” he said.
> “Two-way connectivity and the evolving value chain allow application developers, and OEMs,
> to deliver incredibly rich, up-to-date, and personalized traffic, navigation, weather and
> other content in ways that were previously not financially viable.”
>
> Microsoft said it will provide pro-rated refunds for existing MSN Direct customers,
> including those in a one-time payment program.
>
> So while MSN Direct is shutting down, Sedlik predicts that RDS-TMC continues to grow in
> the next few years in terms of overall subscriptions, but will ultimately decline over
> time. He said that HD radio will gain some adoption, particularly in automotive to steal a
> share of the market from satellite operators. “GPRS and GSM, as well as hyrbird HD/GPRS
> solutions, will gain the majority of the market opportunity,” he said.
>
> Echoing Sedlik’s remarks about the rise of the smartphone as the platform of choice to
> deliver traffic and other content, Andre Gueziec, Beat the Traffic CEO and founder, said
> that wireless data plans are going down in cost for 3G and 4G service. “We see the
> smartphone as the key client for traffic information. We are moving aggressively with
> consumer and white-label products for Blackberry and the iPhone,” he said.
xxein: Not a word about the physic and light bending, huh?
Sam Wormley
> On Nov 13, 2:53 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>> Enter Google; Exit Microsoft, Stage Left
>> http://www.gpsworld.com/lbs/enter-google-exit-microsoft-stage-left-9128?print=1
http://www.answers.com/topic/physic
BURT
Einstein was right about quantum mechanics. Science judeged him for
it.
They needed that.
Science only knows the odds. God knows every outcome.
" I don't believe that God plays dice with the universe." Albert
Einstein
jmfbahciv
> On Nov 13, 2:05 pm, Phil Bouchard <p...@fornux.com> wrote:
>> PD wrote:
>>
>>> Phil, pardon me, but this assurance of nothing.
>> I haven't spent a year to get flagged as a hacker, how about that?
>
> Sorry, Phil, but your avowals of personal integrity just don't cut it.
> What hacker doesn't say "Trust me"?
The auld farts who did real hacking. The term hackers has changed
over the decades :-(.
/BAH
jmfbahciv
> eric gisse wrote:
>>
>> depends on windows binaries?
>
> Use a Windows emulator.
>
/BAH
jmfbahciv
> On Nov 13, 10:18 am, Phil Bouchard <p...@fornux.com> wrote:
>> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>>> That makes about as much sense as putting a smaller wheel on the front
>>> of your bicycle so's you can be going down hill all the time.
>>> Hey Phil, See: Physics FAQ: Are There Any Good Books on Relativity
>>> Theory?
>>> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/rel_booklist.html
>>> Welcome back to get your nose bloodied some more, Phil. You must really
>>> like the process (even be addicted to it) to be posting your drivel here
>>> again. Potter does the same thing.
>> Sam does not know GPS is about to get replaced by Google Navigator:http://www.google.com/mobile/navigation/index.html#p=default
>
> _immediately_ suspected it when you said the one would replace the
> other, your track record being what it is.
I missed this one. I do keep getting surprised at the extent of
ignorance.
<snip>
/BAH
alie...@gmail.com
> n...@bid.nes wrote:
>
> > I did not know that Google Navigator was GPS-driven. But I
> > _immediately_ suspected it when you said the one would replace the
> > other, your track record being what it is.
>
> I missed this one. I do keep getting surprised at the extent of
> ignorance.
Hey, I can't keep track of every new trick Google pulls out of its
ass either!
Mark L. Fergerson
jmfbahciv
would produce expected results.
There is another worrisome aspect which has to do with the computtering
biz which I can't describe in English ASCII. My red flag went
straight up in the air when I read the blurb. My red flag gear
is usually wrong about specifics but usually marks a mess potential.
/BAH
G=EMC^2 Glazier
constant 186,242 mps Its space that curves and photons follow this
path. Photons go a longer distance to go from A to B such as it takes
photons leaving the sun's fusion core to get to the Earth on average
200,000 years. Good theory used on this. Reality is if photons changed
speed we would not have a universe. It needs this constant to be what
is. Bert
Sam Wormley
The photons created in the sun's core, are not the photons that
are absorbed at the earth's surface. The wavelengths are different.
G=EMC^2 Glazier
they leave the fusion core of the Sun in the gamma length wave(lots of
energy) Short wave show great energy.and long waves show weak energy.
You seem to have a mental problem on this reality Bert
Sam Wormley
Never mind, Herb!
alie...@gmail.com
> n...@bid.nes wrote:
> > On Nov 14, 4:40 am, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv@aol> wrote:
> >> n...@bid.nes wrote:
>
> >>> I did not know that Google Navigator was GPS-driven. But I
> >>> _immediately_ suspected it when you said the one would replace the
> >>> other, your track record being what it is.
> >> I missed this one. I do keep getting surprised at the extent of
> >> ignorance.
>
> > Hey, I can't keep track of every new trick Google pulls out of its
> > ass either!
>
> The assumption made appeared to be that simply running the code
> would produce expected results.
You mean like the snappy MiniMap add-on for Firefox that uses (among
other things) various versions of Google mapping services? And...
> There is another worrisome aspect which has to do with the computtering
> biz which I can't describe in English ASCII. My red flag went
> straight up in the air when I read the blurb. My red flag gear
> is usually wrong about specifics but usually marks a mess potential.
...has nasty habits like freezing, not changing resolution
proportional to zoom level, panning back to your "home" coordinates
when you change map type, Not Playing Well with laptop touchpads...
anyway, it's worth far more than what I paid for it (nothing). When it
works.
I think my red flag is b0rken.
Mark L. Fergerson
BURT
> On Nov 13, 2:19 pm, Phil Bouchard <p...@fornux.com> wrote:
>
> > Simple Simon wrote:
>
> > > From the link above:
> > > "Google Maps Navigation is an internet-connected GPS navigation system with
> > > voice guidance."
>
> > You said it yourself: "internet-connected GPS navigation system".
> > That's a GPS replacement using a triangular cell phone tower locater.
>
> Phil, please. I just asked you to try harder not to be so obviously
> stupid, and you just seem to be obsessed with digging the hole deeper.
Two aether rates slow in gravity and motion in GR and SR.
Mitch Raemsch
xxein
> xxeinwrote:
> > On Nov 13, 2:53 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> >> Enter Google; Exit Microsoft, Stage Left
>
> - Show quoted text -
xxein: You are obviously out of the loop.
BURT
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
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> - Show quoted text -
There is no loop. There is just an intellectual game of hubris.
Mitch Raemsch
jmfbahciv
Yep. If it's the only game in town, then planes, ships and trains
won't go.
>
> I think my red flag is b0rken.
>
<grin>
I got paid to have my red flags perk up before we shipped hard/software.
/BAH
Phil Bouchard
>
> Well I spent 2 short evenings writing it this week, I probably created a
> mistake but I still am in the same order and I already get something out
> of light bending.
I made the mistake of considering a non-Euclidean space last week but I
just figured out something important where time variations will
gradually change the properties of a light ray.
Whenever I have some time I will make the necessary corrections.
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
The only way to win is not to play the game.
Mitch Raemsch
eric gisse
It takes years to obtain an education in physics. When do you intend to fit
that in?
jmfbahciv
profit margin.
/BAH
Phil Bouchard
>
> Phil, please. I just asked you to try harder not to be so obviously
> stupid, and you just seem to be obsessed with digging the hole deeper.
I'll write something tonight, it's obvious.
BURT
Shapiro and Einstein's Sobral is a shallow parabola past the Sun.
This is light's geometry path bending it in the sky.
Mitch Raemsch
PD
Dropped the ball, Phil?
I'm sure it's somewhere near. You don't get out much.
BradGuth
>
> > I haven't spent a year to get flagged as a hacker, how about that?
>
> Sorry, Phil, but your avowals of personal integrity just don't cut it.
> What hacker doesn't say "Trust me"?
You'd say that to Einstein.
~ BG