Does God exist? Yes and No!
V.Gopal
The 'created' cannot know his/its creator, this is the difference
between the created and THE CREATOR. Moreover God has not empowered
Himself with the power to reward or punish anybody; He has created
a vast autometon that works/follows certain laws that He does not
need to break. When a cow gives birth to a calf, within minutes it
gets up and drinks milk from mother. Why don't you all get together
and create a world in which science is possible - prediction is
possible. Does 'matter' you 'create' from knoeledge about it possess,
exhibit and provide the same knowledge again? After you answer, my
next question is, 'Why?' God is not required to punish the wrong doer,
He has 'programmed' it in such a way that even the punishment is
'automatic'. A wrong doer may seem to happy to the outside world
but deep within himself he can never find peace. We can never know
what sort of punishment he is having.
Many of us use the term 'space-time continuum' to explain gravity,
the ultimate internal srtucture of matter etc. But none of us seems
to be able to accept the essential characteristics of a 'continuum'.
A 'Field' is a continuum. Can any one explain the essential
characteristic of a 'space-time continuum'?
Mike Varney
Mike Varney
Dave Ulmer
"Mike Varney" <var...@an-anticrank3.net> wrote in message
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> "V.Gopal" <vgop...@rediffmail.com> wrote garbage
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> Twit.
>
Did you notice how Mike Varney signed his message "Twit" ?
This means he is a Twit !
Dave...
Dave Ulmer
"V.Gopal" <vgop...@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
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God is the pure absense of data. No true direct knowledge can ever be known
about God. God is a nessary feature of intelligent systems and functions
much like the end-of-file character in a computer.
Dave...
Akalos Timotei
> The 'created' cannot know his/its creator [...]
why?
> this is the difference
> between the created and THE CREATOR.
isn't that the role: activ or passiv?
> Can any one explain the essential
> characteristic of a 'space-time continuum'?
it's continuous (*gg*)
but the world isn't - energy for example
akalos
Uncle Al
[snip]
> The 'created' cannot know his/its creator, this is the difference
> between the created and THE CREATOR.
[snip]
Wouldn't you be happier in your natal land worshipping rats and
squatting in the streets to crap?
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> Dave...
This is certainly a very interesting phenomenon to observe.
The supreme ruler of everything in the Universe.
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Tapio Hurme
"Dave Ulmer" <dave...@NOTccwebster.net> wrote in message
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> "V.Gopal" <vgop...@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "The miracle, the only miracle is that science exists" - Einstein.
> God is the pure absense of data. No true direct knowledge can ever be
known
> about God. God is a nessary feature of intelligent systems and functions
> much like the end-of-file character in a computer.
>
Uhhh..... and I was told God-self wanted us to know everything about God by
giving us the well referred book - for intance.
And now you tell me that is not true. Who told you that we cannot get direct
knowledge, if the direct knowledge was given?
Anyway, this begin to be funny... ;-)
Tapio
> Dave...
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Tapio Hurme
"Akalos Timotei" <aka...@gmx.at> wrote in message
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> V.Gopal wrote:
> > The 'created' cannot know his/its creator [...]
>
> why?
>
>
> > this is the difference
> > between the created and THE CREATOR.
>
> isn't that the role: activ or passiv?
>
Don't worry, Gopal tries to apply implication, but he cannot proof anything.
Or, let's wait for his next move... with the aid of equivalence. :-)
fkafka...@earthlink.net
'Why?' God is not required to punish the wrong doer,
> He has 'programmed' it in such a way that even the punishment is
> 'automatic'. A wrong doer may seem to happy to the outside world
> but deep within himself he can never find peace.
If Almighty God exists, then, were it only possible, an ALMIGHTIER God
should drag him into a Cosmic Courtroom for, through his heartless lack of
interference, aiding and abetting in the monstrous crimes of murderers,
warmongers, bigots, liars, sadists, jingoists, power abusers, power
worshippers, quiet collaborators with evil, and all the willfully crass and
arrogant men and women everywhere, who quite comfortably have lived and
quite comfortably have died through the ebb and flux of Human History.
And do not think all the entropy generating hordes like these above are not
"experiencing peace", because, gruesomely enough, they all are....
--
Robert Betts
"I ought to go upright and vital, and speak the rude truth in all its ways."
(Ralph Waldo Emerson, from his essay, "On Self-Reliance")
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Ronald Stepp
> Did you notice how Mike Varney signed his message "Twit" ?
>
> This means he is a Twit !
It's not a signature if there isn't a body of text to be signing.. in this
case the message was "Twit.", twit.
Bob Pease
"Ronald Stepp" <rstepp.d...@sw.rr.com> wrote in message
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Q. What goes "Twit, twit"
A. Arnold Schwatrzencanary
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> Q. What goes "Twit, twit"
> A. Arnold Schwatrzencanary
>
>
Too funny.
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Kelwin Delaunay
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> [Previous]
> 'Why?' God is not required to punish the wrong doer,
> > He has 'programmed' it in such a way that even the punishment is
> > 'automatic'. A wrong doer may seem to happy to the outside world
> > but deep within himself he can never find peace.
>
> If Almighty God exists, then, were it only possible, an ALMIGHTIER
God
> should drag him into a Cosmic Courtroom for, through his heartless
lack of
> interference, aiding and abetting in the monstrous crimes of
murderers,
> warmongers, bigots, liars, sadists, jingoists, power abusers, power
> worshippers, quiet collaborators with evil, and all the willfully
crass and
> arrogant men and women everywhere, who quite comfortably have lived
and
> quite comfortably have died through the ebb and flux of Human
History.
If God interfered, you would be denied freedom: the freedom to prevent
evil acts, to denigrate evil acts, as well as to commit evil acts. We
possess an incredible gift: freedom to think about the consequences of
actions as well as to take them.
Kelwin
Maleki
<Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in
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>Wouldn't you be happier in your natal land worshipping rats and
>squatting in the streets to crap?
Interesting. You do something that beats that?
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gar ghadre kamAle khish beshnAkhtami
dAmAne khod az khAk bepardAkhtami
khAliyyo sabok barAsmAn tAkhtami
sar bar falake nohom barafrAkhtami
"Mowlana"
tj Frazir
some stupid planet .
If e talked you your planet then wy not talk to all the planets . Your
not so stupid you think life is only on your planet !
Ronald Stepp
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He must talk to you all the time.. from the above rant I would say you
confuse HIM when you talk back.. he talks to the other guys about the voices
he hears in head and they just pity him and say, "It's okay Jehovah.. if you
keep hearing this tj voice you can seek counseling to make it better."
Pathetic even for you...
J 891
God is real. This surprised me since I did not expect theology to be
discussed in that group. I read on and found the qualification:
unless declared integer. It was in fact a joke which required a
knowledge of the old programming language Fortran. In this language,
variables do not need to be declared. If they start with I, J, K, L,
M or N then they will be assumed to be integer and anything else will
be assumed to be real. A variable could be explicitly declared as
Integer, Real or Complex whatever the name. Hence in the rules of
Fortran: GOD is a real variable unless declared as integer. Or more
tersely: God is real unless declared integer.
J
G=EMC^2 Glazier
This is probably true because this uncertainty principle is used in the
BB theory. The "G" in my GUT equation can be for God or Gravity. I'll go
with uncertainty and say maybe,but I'm leaning towards "no" God is in my
minds eye more hypothetical than the BB. The bible is like a
fairy tail. Not all bibles are exactly alike. I would think just reading
the bible in the French language would have a nice tone to it(pretty
language) I was told that Hebrew language is great for poetry. Can't
think of any poetry in the bible,or any humor. Lots of smitting,and
begetting(killing and sex) a little slavery,and a lot of pain. Who needs
it,It has not changed anything and no man has ever lived that has not
broken at lest one of the ten commandments. Bert
M Khomo
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> Integer, Real or Complex whatever the name. Hence in the rules of
> Fortran: GOD is a real variable unless declared as integer. Or more
> tersely: God is real unless declared integer.
This reminds me of another case of 'terse' documentation, the old att unix
'man' page for the commands 'true' and 'false':
'true does nothing successfully'
'false does nothing unsuccessfully'
It took me a little bit to take them in[1], and I've been irreparably
damaged since:)
MK
[1] In essence they meant neither command has any side-effect, but returns
the truth-value 'success'/'fail' in place of true/false invocations, which
in unix are Zero/NonZero integers respectively. (one way to succeed, many
ways to fail)