CERN, LHC. The End is soon.
Magnetic
But with great probability their secretaries will drop my letters into
rubbish.
So, if you do not want to play in Russian Roulette, compose your own
letter or agree with mine.
Dear President!
I am the author of the theory of magnetic hole. According to this
theory magnetic holes can be created soon at the Large Hadron
Collider. That will lead to the collaptical explosion of the Earth.
November the 30-th, according to the preliminary plan for the Large
Hadron Collider, the collisions of protons with energies of 0.45 TeV
will be implemented, the 14-th of December - collisions with energies
of 3.5 TeV. If the magnetic collapse starts, it will be impossible to
stop it. It will end with ejection of the Earth’s shell into outer
space.
I give the following probabilities:
A. 10% - magnetic collapse will start at 0.45 TeV;
B. 50% - magnetic collapse will start at 3.5 TeV, if A did not
happen;
C. 70% - magnetic collapse will start at 7 TeV, if B did not happen.
30% I leave to my mistake.
Why is such confidence?
Compare Newtonian black hole and magnetic hole:
GMm / r = mc^2 / 2;
pB = mc^2.
It was obtained two independent proofs that the equality pB = mc^2 is
reached at the energies, achievable in modern colliders,
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
There are many arguments in favor the fact that magnetic holes exist,
and astronomers see them, but call them on the error as black holes,
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/argen.html
It was found several crude errors and criminal lies in the assessment
documents about the safety of LHC, http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html
The Earth after the magnetic collapse will transform into a small
region of exited superconducting vacuum. This region’s diameter is
about 10 meters. The thickness is about 2.5 meters…
Inertial
news:10fb6bf6-9dd0-421e...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> I wrote the letters to President of EU, to President of USA...
> But with great probability their secretaries will drop my letters into
> rubbish.
> So, if you do not want to play in Russian Roulette, compose your own
> letter or agree with mine.
>
>
> Dear President!
>
> I am the author of the theory of magnetic hole. According to this
> theory magnetic holes can be created soon at the Large Hadron
> Collider. That will lead to the collaptical explosion of the Earth.
>
> November the 30-th, according to the preliminary plan for the Large
> Hadron Collider, the collisions of protons with energies of 0.45 TeV
> will be implemented, the 14-th of December - collisions with energies
> of 3.5 TeV. If the magnetic collapse starts, it will be impossible to
> space.
>
> I give the following probabilities:
> A. 10% - magnetic collapse will start at 0.45 TeV;
> B. 50% - magnetic collapse will start at 3.5 TeV, if A did not
> happen;
> C. 70% - magnetic collapse will start at 7 TeV, if B did not happen.
> 30% I leave to my mistake.
>
> Why is such confidence?
>
> Compare Newtonian black hole and magnetic hole:
> GMm / r = mc^2 / 2;
> pB = mc^2.
>
> It was obtained two independent proofs that the equality pB = mc^2 is
> reached at the energies, achievable in modern colliders,
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
> There are many arguments in favor the fact that magnetic holes exist,
> and astronomers see them, but call them on the error as black holes,
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/argen.html
> It was found several crude errors and criminal lies in the assessment
> documents about the safety of LHC, http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html
>
> The Earth after the magnetic collapse will transform into a small
> about 10 meters. The thickness is about 2.5 meters�
I'm sure your received the appropriate response to your garbage
Argir Pando Vasil Dobri Matea Karagorgovi
> There are many arguments in favor the fact that magnetic holes exist,
> It was found several crude errors and criminal lies in the assessment
>
> The Earth after the magnetic collapse will transform into a small
> region of exited superconducting vacuum. This region’s diameter is
> about 10 meters. The thickness is about 2.5 meters…
buddy you're a boy making big noise playing in the streets gonna be a
big man some day, you gotta mud on your face a big disgrace kicking
your can all over the place... guess what we are gonna do to you?
Inertial
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> On Nov 6, 6:15 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>> I wrote the letters to President of EU, to President of USA...
>> But with great probability their secretaries will drop my letters into
>> rubbish.
>> So, if you do not want to play in Russian Roulette, compose your own
>> letter or agree with mine.
>>
>> Dear President!
>>
>> I am the author of the theory of magnetic hole. According to this
>> theory magnetic holes can be created soon at the Large Hadron
>> Collider. That will lead to the collaptical explosion of the Earth.
>>
>> November the 30-th, according to the preliminary plan for the Large
>> Hadron Collider, the collisions of protons with energies of 0.45 TeV
>> will be implemented, the 14-th of December - collisions with energies
>> of 3.5 TeV. If the magnetic collapse starts, it will be impossible to
>> space.
>>
>> I give the following probabilities:
>> A. 10% - magnetic collapse will start at 0.45 TeV;
>> B. 50% - magnetic collapse will start at 3.5 TeV, if A did not
>> happen;
>> C. 70% - magnetic collapse will start at 7 TeV, if B did not happen.
>> 30% I leave to my mistake.
>>
>> Why is such confidence?
>>
>> Compare Newtonian black hole and magnetic hole:
>> GMm / r = mc^2 / 2;
>> pB = mc^2.
>>
>> It was obtained two independent proofs that the equality pB = mc^2 is
>> reached at the energies, achievable in modern
>> colliders,http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
>> There are many arguments in favor the fact that magnetic holes exist,
>> and astronomers see them, but call them on the error as black
>> holes,http://darkenergy.narod.ru/argen.html
>> It was found several crude errors and criminal lies in the assessment
>> documents about the safety of LHC,http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html
>>
>> The Earth after the magnetic collapse will transform into a small
>> about 10 meters. The thickness is about 2.5 meters�
>
> buddy you're a boy making big noise playing in the streets gonna be a
> big man some day, you gotta mud on your face a big disgrace kicking
> your can all over the place... guess what we are gonna do to you?
Stone him ... I mean, rock him
Magnetic
> > buddy you're a boy making big noise playing in the streets gonna be a
> > big man some day, you gotta mud on your face a big disgrace kicking
> > your can all over the place... guess what we are gonna do to you?
>
> Stone him ... I mean, rock him
Thank you! You a very polite, kind, generous, thoughtful.
-----
Crude Errors in Risk Assessment of Colliders.
From correspondence at forums.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What will happen if pB will be equal to mc2, where p – magnetic moment
of a proton; B – magnetic field, created by another flying by proton
(or the field of already made magnetic hole) mc^2 – the rest energy of
proton?
At what energy of collisions the equality pB=mc2 is valid? My answer:
0.255 TeV.
Note 1:
Simplest definition of magnetic hole can be made on the following
comparison:
Newtonian black hole: GMm/r = mc^2/2;
Magnetic hole: pB=mc^2.
Note 2:
The time needed the microscopic black hole capture the whole Earth is
mach greater than million years. Consequently, they are safe for now
living people on the Earth.
The time needed the magnetic hole capture the whole Earth is about
1000 seconds. Consequently, magnetic holes can explode the Earth and
Solar system.
Note 3:
We know two types of explosions chemical and nuclear.
Astronomers see the third type of explosions – collaptical.
At nuclear explosion only few thousand’s parts of explosive rest
energy is realized in the form of radiation and kinetic energy of
fragments.
At some stellar collaptical explosions about a half of rest energy of
the star is realized in the form of radiation and kinetic energy of
the rejected stellar shell.
What type of collaptical explosions do astronomers observe:
gravitational into black hole or magnetic into magnetic hole?
Is it possible to switch the magnetic collapse at collider?
My answers: The observed collapses are magnetic ones. Magnetic
collapse can be switched on by powerful colliders.
Your answers: …
Physicists, what will happen at pB=mc^2, or at 0.255 TeV–collisions of
protons at LHC.
This energy is smaller than can be achieved at Tevatron!
- Why it was not been received yet?
Here are some possible explanations.
1. We do not know the magnetic moment of the resulting boson.
2. It is possible that magnetic hole could be born in a collision of
two quarks, for example by d and d.
3. At the Tevatron they collide protons with antiprotons and this lead
to the annihilation.
4. We do not know the magnetic polarization dependence.
5. It is not excluded that microscopic magnetic traps were already
created, and they are growing now somewhere inside the Earth.
LHC will be switched on in the mead-November; the first collisions are
waited in a few weeks later. Do we survive or do we start into outer
space?
Dear physicists, you again and again repeat the biggest error of
Stephen Hawking.
In the CERN's article “The safety of the LHC”
http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/Safety-en.html you can find a
dozen of comparisons with cosmic rays.
Hawking: "The world will not come to an end when the LHC turns on. The
LHC is absolutely safe. ... Collisions releasing greater energy occur
millions of times a day in the earth's atmosphere and nothing terrible
happens."
This error will cost us the life of our Civilization.
The biggest error is in the comparison of A and B.
A. Collisions of protons at LHC;
B. Collisions of cosmic protons with atmospheric protons.
Similarity: Energies in A and B are sufficient in order to make
microscopic magnetic holes.
Difference: Velocities of created holes relatively surrounding matter
are drastically great.
A. Magnetic holes, made on LHC, can have very small velocities.
B. According to conservation law of 4-momentum, cosmic holes have
relativistic velocities.
Result:
A. LHC’s holes capture slowly moving particles and grow. The bigger
hole becomes – the bigger its rate of growth.
B. Atmosphere particles move relatively holes with relativistic
velocities and, correspondingly, they have TeV kinetic energy,
relatively holes. As a result, magnetic holes evaporate immediately.
Such collisions lead to creation of showers of secondary particles.
Physicists observe such showers.
Analogy:
Let’s compare the behavior of “nuclear quasi-hole” with the behavior
of magnetic hole. Let’s investigate two cases:
A. Bombarding particles are neutrons, having the kinetic energies,
equal to several in eV.
B. Bombarding neutrons have kinetic energies, equal to several TeV.
Approximate result:
A. Collapse:
p+n -> d;
d+n -> t -> He3+e;
He3+n -> He4;
He4+n -> He5;
He5+n -> He6 -> Li6+e;
Li6+n -> Li7;
Li7+n -> Li8 -> Be8+e;
Be8+n -> Be9;
Be9+n -> Be10;
...
U235+n -> X+Y+2n
X+n ->...; Y+n ->...
two branches;
...
four branches;
...
eight branches;
...
Collaptical explosion!
B. Evaporation. TeV-energy neutrons will ruin the nucleus in the
backward order in crude approximation.
Nuclear collapse is impossible because the repulsive electrostatic
forces of protons. That is way, I named nucleus by “nuclear quasi-
holes”.
Magnetic collapse has no limit. Magnetic hole will grow till there is
the food, - the matter of planet or star.
Physicists, did you see the difference?
Look here: fig. SN 1987A.
That is an image of remnants of exploded star.
You can see there three beautiful semi axial rings.
Axial symmetry says us that there was the magnetic collapse, but not
the gravity collapse.
Magnetic hole has axial symmetry because it is a compact magnetic
dipole.
Black hole must have spherical symmetry, if it is not rotate.
The Earth after the magnetic collapse will transform into a small
region of exited superconducting vacuum. This region’s diameter is
about 10 meters. The thickness is about 2.5 meters. The strength of
magnetic field in this region is about 10^16 teslas. Because of the
strong magnetic interaction, this small magnetic hole will move on
spiral trajectory to the Sun. As a result, the Sun will explode and
astronomy amateurs from neighbor stellar systems (alien free thinkers)
will observe novae or supernovae phenomenon. Alien stephen hawkings
will say: “The world will not come to an end when the LHC turns on.
The LHC is absolutely safe. ... Collisions releasing greater energy
occur millions of times a day in the earth's atmosphere and nothing
terrible happens”
The second crude error is made by the authors of
http://doc.cern.ch/yellowrep/2003/2003-001/p1.pdf They wrote
"magnetic monopoles can catalyse proton decay. Can this be a problem?
At each catalysis event energy is released by the decaying proton,
causing the monopole to move. It is straightforward to estimate the
number of protons that could be destroyed before the monopole escapes
the Earth. Monopoles are expected to have a strong cross-section with
normal matter. As a result the mean free path of a monopole moving
through iron is given by (formula)..
In each collision a nucleon is destroyed so the escaping monopole will
destroy 1018 nucleons: negligibly small compared to the total number
of nucleons".
The author’s logic would be correct only in the case of isotropic
medium. But the Earth has it’s own gravity field and it’s own magnetic
field. Both these fields are not isotropic. Created monopoles will not
go far from the attracting places. They will randomly move around
these places till destroy all protons of the Earth. So the correct
number is not 1018 but 1051, divided by the number of created
monopoles.
III. The third error is hidden in the formula of monopole catalyses of
proton decay
M + p = M + e^+.
More correct formula must contain the number n:
M_n + p = M_{n+1} + e^+.
This number shows the number of x-bosons in magnetic monopole (one
more type of magnetic holes). These bosons have the equal quantum
numbers. Magnetic hole works as laser. The word laser originated as an
acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.
Laser creates the same photons, which are bosons with zero mass
energy. Because of zero mass, photons fly away from laser with the
speed of light. Magnetic trap creates x-bosons, which have non-zero
rest mass. These bosons do not fly away but becomes the constituent
part of magnetic hole. The bigger the number n – the bigger the rate
of magnetic collapse of ordinary matter into magnetic hole.
IV. The fourth error is hidden in poor imagination of authors, who had
investigated the possible dangerous particles, which can be created at
colliders. Here I do not stop on mBHs, strangelets, vacuum bubbles.
I’ll stop only on magnetic traps.
Magnetic traps are dangerous objects, which are connected together
mostly by the magnetic forces. I tried to investigate some of them:
1. neutron liquid;
2. neutron hole;
3. magnetic hole;
4. magnetic monopole.
The most real ones, from my point of view, ere magnetic holes.
Computations had lead me to the conclusion that magnetic holes can be
of such types:
1. magnetic dipoles with poles N and S;
2. electromagnetic dipoles with mixed poles N+ and S-, or with poles
N- and S+;
3. vacuum electromagnetic oscillator;
…
n. …with mixed electro-magneto-weak poles…
…
region of strangelets.
People, I am in shock from your silence!
Humans, like a herd of obedient sheep, are lead to the abyss. I, as a
mortally frightened lamb, run from side to side of the herd, but the
herd do not hear me. They laugh at me and moves slowly, plucking the
juicy grass.
People, please, wake up! Open your eyes!
November the 30-th, according to the preliminary plan for the Large
Hadron Collider, the collision of protons with energies of 0.45 TeV
will be implemented, 14 December - collision with energies of 3.5 TeV.
If the magnetic collapse starts, it will be impossible to stop it. It
will end with ejection of the Earth’s shell into space.
I give the probability of about
10% that magnetic collapse will start at 0.45 TeV;
50% at 3.5 TeV;
70% at 7 TeV.
30% I leave to my mistake.
Why is such confidence, - you would ask.
Compare Newtonian black hole and magnetic hole:
GMm / r = mc^2 / 2;
pB = mc^2.
It was obtained two independent proofs that the equality pB = mc^2 is
reached at the energies, achievable in modern colliders.
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
There are many arguments in favor of the fact, that magnetic holes
exist, and astronomers see them but call them on the error as black
holes.
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/argen.html
It was found several great errors and criminal lies in the assessment
documents about the safety of LHC.
Humans, are you really obedient sheep, ready to be killed?
Inertial
>
>> > buddy you're a boy making big noise playing in the streets gonna be a
>> > big man some day, you gotta mud on your face a big disgrace kicking
>> > your can all over the place... guess what we are gonna do to you?
>>
>> Stone him ... I mean, rock him
>
> Thank you! You a very polite, kind, generous, thoughtful.
> -----
>
> Crude Errors in Risk Assessment of Colliders.
> From correspondence at forums.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> of a proton; B � magnetic field, created by another flying by proton
> (or the field of already made magnetic hole) mc^2 � the rest energy of
> proton?
>
> At what energy of collisions the equality pB=mc2 is valid? My answer:
> 0.255 TeV.
>
> Note 1:
> Simplest definition of magnetic hole can be made on the following
> comparison:
> Newtonian black hole: GMm/r = mc^2/2;
> Magnetic hole: pB=mc^2.
>
> Note 2:
> The time needed the microscopic black hole capture the whole Earth is
> mach greater than million years. Consequently, they are safe for now
> living people on the Earth.
> The time needed the magnetic hole capture the whole Earth is about
> 1000 seconds. Consequently, magnetic holes can explode the Earth and
> Solar system.
>
> Note 3:
> We know two types of explosions chemical and nuclear.
> At nuclear explosion only few thousand�s parts of explosive rest
> energy is realized in the form of radiation and kinetic energy of
> fragments.
> At some stellar collaptical explosions about a half of rest energy of
> the star is realized in the form of radiation and kinetic energy of
> the rejected stellar shell.
> What type of collaptical explosions do astronomers observe:
> gravitational into black hole or magnetic into magnetic hole?
> Is it possible to switch the magnetic collapse at collider?
> My answers: The observed collapses are magnetic ones. Magnetic
> collapse can be switched on by powerful colliders.
>
> Physicists, what will happen at pB=mc^2, or at 0.255 TeV�collisions of
> protons at LHC.
>
> This energy is smaller than can be achieved at Tevatron!
>
> - Why it was not been received yet?
> Here are some possible explanations.
> 1. We do not know the magnetic moment of the resulting boson.
> 2. It is possible that magnetic hole could be born in a collision of
> two quarks, for example by d and d.
> 3. At the Tevatron they collide protons with antiprotons and this lead
> to the annihilation.
> 4. We do not know the magnetic polarization dependence.
> 5. It is not excluded that microscopic magnetic traps were already
> created, and they are growing now somewhere inside the Earth.
>
> LHC will be switched on in the mead-November; the first collisions are
> waited in a few weeks later. Do we survive or do we start into outer
> space?
>
> Dear physicists, you again and again repeat the biggest error of
> Stephen Hawking.
> http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/Safety-en.html you can find a
> dozen of comparisons with cosmic rays.
>
> Hawking: "The world will not come to an end when the LHC turns on. The
> LHC is absolutely safe. ... Collisions releasing greater energy occur
> millions of times a day in the earth's atmosphere and nothing terrible
> happens."
>
> This error will cost us the life of our Civilization.
>
> The biggest error is in the comparison of A and B.
> A. Collisions of protons at LHC;
> B. Collisions of cosmic protons with atmospheric protons.
>
> Similarity: Energies in A and B are sufficient in order to make
> microscopic magnetic holes.
>
> Difference: Velocities of created holes relatively surrounding matter
> are drastically great.
> A. Magnetic holes, made on LHC, can have very small velocities.
> B. According to conservation law of 4-momentum, cosmic holes have
> relativistic velocities.
>
> Result:
> hole becomes � the bigger its rate of growth.
> B. Atmosphere particles move relatively holes with relativistic
> velocities and, correspondingly, they have TeV kinetic energy,
> relatively holes. As a result, magnetic holes evaporate immediately.
> Such collisions lead to creation of showers of secondary particles.
> Physicists observe such showers.
>
> Analogy:
> of magnetic hole. Let�s investigate two cases:
> holes�.
> Magnetic collapse has no limit. Magnetic hole will grow till there is
> the food, - the matter of planet or star.
>
> Physicists, did you see the difference?
>
>
>
> Look here: fig. SN 1987A.
> That is an image of remnants of exploded star.
> You can see there three beautiful semi axial rings.
> Axial symmetry says us that there was the magnetic collapse, but not
> the gravity collapse.
> Magnetic hole has axial symmetry because it is a compact magnetic
> dipole.
> Black hole must have spherical symmetry, if it is not rotate.
>
> The Earth after the magnetic collapse will transform into a small
> about 10 meters. The thickness is about 2.5 meters. The strength of
> magnetic field in this region is about 10^16 teslas. Because of the
> strong magnetic interaction, this small magnetic hole will move on
> spiral trajectory to the Sun. As a result, the Sun will explode and
> astronomy amateurs from neighbor stellar systems (alien free thinkers)
> will observe novae or supernovae phenomenon. Alien stephen hawkings
> The LHC is absolutely safe. ... Collisions releasing greater energy
> occur millions of times a day in the earth's atmosphere and nothing
>
>
>
>
>
> The second crude error is made by the authors of
> http://doc.cern.ch/yellowrep/2003/2003-001/p1.pdf They wrote
>
> "magnetic monopoles can catalyse proton decay. Can this be a problem?
> At each catalysis event energy is released by the decaying proton,
> causing the monopole to move. It is straightforward to estimate the
> number of protons that could be destroyed before the monopole escapes
> the Earth. Monopoles are expected to have a strong cross-section with
> normal matter. As a result the mean free path of a monopole moving
> through iron is given by (formula)..
> In each collision a nucleon is destroyed so the escaping monopole will
> destroy 1018 nucleons: negligibly small compared to the total number
> of nucleons".
>
> medium. But the Earth has it�s own gravity field and it�s own magnetic
> field. Both these fields are not isotropic. Created monopoles will not
> go far from the attracting places. They will randomly move around
> these places till destroy all protons of the Earth. So the correct
> number is not 1018 but 1051, divided by the number of created
> monopoles.
>
>
>
> III. The third error is hidden in the formula of monopole catalyses of
> proton decay
>
> M + p = M + e^+.
>
> More correct formula must contain the number n:
>
> M_n + p = M_{n+1} + e^+.
>
> This number shows the number of x-bosons in magnetic monopole (one
> more type of magnetic holes). These bosons have the equal quantum
> numbers. Magnetic hole works as laser. The word laser originated as an
> acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.
> Laser creates the same photons, which are bosons with zero mass
> energy. Because of zero mass, photons fly away from laser with the
> speed of light. Magnetic trap creates x-bosons, which have non-zero
> rest mass. These bosons do not fly away but becomes the constituent
> of magnetic collapse of ordinary matter into magnetic hole.
>
> IV. The fourth error is hidden in poor imagination of authors, who had
> investigated the possible dangerous particles, which can be created at
> colliders. Here I do not stop on mBHs, strangelets, vacuum bubbles.
> Magnetic traps are dangerous objects, which are connected together
> mostly by the magnetic forces. I tried to investigate some of them:
> 1. neutron liquid;
> 2. neutron hole;
> 3. magnetic hole;
> 4. magnetic monopole.
> The most real ones, from my point of view, ere magnetic holes.
> Computations had lead me to the conclusion that magnetic holes can be
> of such types:
> 1. magnetic dipoles with poles N and S;
> 2. electromagnetic dipoles with mixed poles N+ and S-, or with poles
> N- and S+;
> 3. vacuum electromagnetic oscillator;
> n. �with mixed electro-magneto-weak poles�
> �
> region of strangelets.
>
>
>
> People, I am in shock from your silence!
> Humans, like a herd of obedient sheep, are lead to the abyss. I, as a
> mortally frightened lamb, run from side to side of the herd, but the
> herd do not hear me. They laugh at me and moves slowly, plucking the
> juicy grass.
>
> People, please, wake up! Open your eyes!
>
> November the 30-th, according to the preliminary plan for the Large
> Hadron Collider, the collision of protons with energies of 0.45 TeV
> will be implemented, 14 December - collision with energies of 3.5 TeV.
> If the magnetic collapse starts, it will be impossible to stop it. It
>
> I give the probability of about
> 10% that magnetic collapse will start at 0.45 TeV;
> 50% at 3.5 TeV;
> 70% at 7 TeV.
> 30% I leave to my mistake.
>
> Why is such confidence, - you would ask.
>
> Compare Newtonian black hole and magnetic hole:
> GMm / r = mc^2 / 2;
> pB = mc^2.
>
> It was obtained two independent proofs that the equality pB = mc^2 is
> reached at the energies, achievable in modern colliders.
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
> There are many arguments in favor of the fact, that magnetic holes
> exist, and astronomers see them but call them on the error as black
> holes.
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/argen.html
> It was found several great errors and criminal lies in the assessment
> documents about the safety of LHC.
>
> Humans, are you really obedient sheep, ready to be killed?
More crap. Go away
Magnetic
respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
But as we can see, CERN continues their preparations to this crime
experiment. Conclusion - the science is criminal now!
Is there online “opinion pole” about LHC in English?
HardySpicer
>
> read more »
Well look at it this way. if you are right we will not know much about
it and all be dead.
If the rest of us are right we will survive and you will look a right
tit!! Either way you will never gain the credit you deserve...
Hardy
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I'm fully aware that you may be so stupid as to reply, but the purpose
of this message is to encourage others to kill-file fuckwits like you.
I hope you find this explanation is satisfactory but even if you don't,
damnly my frank, I don't give a dear. Have a nice day and fuck off.
Tom Roberts
> I give the following probabilities:
> A. 10% - magnetic collapse will start at 0.45 TeV;
> B. 50% - magnetic collapse will start at 3.5 TeV, if A did not
> happen;
Well, such a "collapse" has not happened in more than a decade of
running the Tevatron at 1.8 TeV, and a few weeks at 2.0 TeV.
Tom Roberts
Magnetic
1. Tevatron gives 1 TeV per particle.
2. Tevatron leads to annihilation of proton and antiproton;
LHC will lead to creation of magnetic holes in proton-proton
collisions.
Inertial
> According to Russian online �opinion pole� at November 6, 2009, 52% of
> respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
So .. Russians are misinformed idiots. Thanks for letting us know
> But as we can see, CERN continues their preparations to this crime
> experiment. Conclusion - the science is criminal now!
No .. your stupidity is criminal.
> Is there online �opinion pole� about LHC in English?
Who cares
Inertial
Drivel drivel drivel. Don't you have a toilet you can use instead?
tadchem
that of the uncounted thousands of predictions of "the End" that have
occurred throughout history, exactly 100% of them have been wrong.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
eric gisse
What will you do if nothing happens?
Magnetic
I do not predict the End of Universe, but the life of Earth and It’s
Biosphere can be limited.
I want to believe that the reason will win and the LHC will be
stopped.
Inertial wrote:
> > According to Russian online “opinion pole” at November 6, 2009, 52% of
> > respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
> So .. Russians are misinformed idiots.
Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who
are the misinformed idiot.
Inertial
> On Nov 6, 11:51 am, tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> You must realize, of course, that the history of eschatology shows
>> that of the uncounted thousands of predictions of "the End" that have
>> occurred throughout history, exactly 100% of them have been wrong.
>>
>> Tom Davidson
>> Richmond, VA
>
> Biosphere can be limited.
>
> I want to believe that the reason will win and the LHC will be
> stopped.
>
> Inertial wrote:
>> > respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
>> So .. Russians are misinformed idiots.
>
> Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who
> are the misinformed idiot.
I already know it is you. No need to make an opinion poll of others who are
misinformed to find out that.
Magnetic
LHC.
That is a bad sign. Slices of bread are usually put at the cemetery on
the remembrance of dead souls.
Enrique Ferreyra (Pachu)
now you have made a point...
John Christiansen
"Magnetic" <magnet...@yandex.ua> skrev i en meddelelse
news:10fb6bf6-9dd0-421e...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
I wrote the letters to President of EU, to President of USA...
But with great probability their secretaries will drop my letters into
rubbish.
So, if you do not want to play in Russian Roulette, compose your own
letter or agree with mine.
Amazing how ignorant it is possible to be. There is not now and there has
never been an EU president. Furthermore CERN is in Switzerland which is not
part of the EU, so even if there were an EU president (which as mentioned
earlier there is not) he or she could do nothing about it.
Dear President!
Why is such confidence?
about 10 meters. The thickness is about 2.5 meters�
Inertial
BAHAHAHA .. you're such a clown. You got any more like that? This is
hilarious
Magnetic
>
> Amazing how ignorant it is possible to be. There is not now and there has
> never been an EU president. Furthermore CERN is in Switzerland which is not
> part of the EU, so even if there were an EU president (which as mentioned
> earlier there is not) he or she could do nothing about it.
CERN is the "child" of 20 countries.
And you can write about its crimes to President of European
Commission: http://ec.europa.eu/commission_barroso/president/contact/mail/thanks/index_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/commission_barroso/president/index_en.htm
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Y7PmykDeo&feature=channel
--
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Best Regards!
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Sam Wormley
So you think some country will bomb the LHC before it can get'm?
Sam Wormley
> I wrote the letters to President of EU, to President of USA...
Sniveling Snipped.
Start by getting a better education.
o The energy that can be supplied to a collision by the Large
Hadron Collider (LHC) is a piffle, compared to similar collision
(cosmic rays) taking place over your head right here right now.
Cosmic Ray energies range from five to ten orders of magnitude
greater than the maximum energy that can be pumped into a collision
in the LHC.
o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle
accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly
short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)
o There is no possibility to pump enough energy into a black hole
to have any substantial mass.
o There is no way to create a black hole in a laboratory that can
sustain itself.
Magnetic
>
> o The energy that can be supplied to a collision by the Large
> Hadron Collider (LHC) is a piffle, compared to similar collision
> (cosmic rays) taking place over your head right here right now.
> Cosmic Ray energies range from five to ten orders of magnitude
> greater than the maximum energy that can be pumped into a collision
> in the LHC.
Comparison with cosmic rays is crude and criminal error. Read my post
upper,
> o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle
> accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly
> short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)
BHs are safe and impossible.
MHs are possible and extremely dangerous.
> o There is no possibility to pump enough energy into a black hole
> to have any substantial mass.
BH’s radius is 10^51 m.
MH’s radius is 10^16 m.
> o There is no way to create a black hole in a laboratory that can
> sustain itself.
BHs need more than million years to destroy the Earth.
MHs need about 1000 seconds to destroy the Earth.
Sam Wormley
<Laughing> Let the destruction begin!
Magnetic
> BH’s radius is 10^51 m.
> MH’s radius is 10^16 m.
tipo, lost the sing "-"!
At mass equivalent to 1 TeV
BH’s radius is 10^-51 m.
MH’s radius is 10^-16 m.
Sam Wormley
>> BH’s radius is 10^51 m.
>> MH’s radius is 10^16 m.
>
> tipo, lost the sing "-"!
>
> At mass equivalent to 1 TeV
Nomen Publicus
>> respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
>> But as we can see, CERN continues their preparations to this crime
>> experiment. Conclusion - the science is criminal now!
>
> So you think some country will bomb the LHC before it can get'm?
>
Is an ?opinion pole? something that politicians dance around at Easter?
--
Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark
cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn't there.
-- Robert A Heinlein
Magnetic
>
> - Show quoted text -
Magnetic
> > BH’s radius is 10^-51 m. <=== Wrong again!
OK. I’ll try to explain.
1. CERN physicists say that mBHs are possible if the space-time has
one additional short coordinate.
2. Caluza and Klein (sorry for my English) about hundred years ago
united the gravity and electromagnetism by developing the space-time
with one more additional coordinate.
3. Quantum mechanics connects the energy of particle and its
dimensions by the principle of uncertainty.
CERN specialists use the notion of microscopic black hole, and they
think as if this black hole is bound by gravity force. But that is
incorrect in 5-dimensional space.
Microscopic black hole can be connected by electromagnetic forces,
which are about 10^36 times stronger than gravity forces.
I use terms “magnetic hole” and “electromagnetic hole”. The first has
two poles N and S. The second hole has poles N+ and S-, or N- and S+.
It is possible that electromagnetic hole oscillates. Preliminary
computations show that the frequency of such hole approximately
coincides with the frequency of pulsars of correspondent mass.
So, be ready to space-flight in comets to other stellar systems.
CERN will not study the theory of magnetic holes.
They will make them and explode our beautiful Earth.
Juan R.
> I wrote the letters to President of EU, to President of USA... But with
> great probability their secretaries will drop my letters into rubbish.
> So, if you do not want to play in Russian Roulette, compose your own
> letter or agree with mine.
>
>
> Dear President!
>
> I am the author of the theory of magnetic hole. According to this theory
> magnetic holes can be created soon at the Large Hadron Collider. That
> will lead to the collaptical explosion of the Earth.
> November the 30-th, according to the preliminary plan for the Large
> Hadron Collider, the collisions of protons with energies of 0.45 TeV
> will be implemented, the 14-th of December - collisions with energies of
> 3.5 TeV. If the magnetic collapse starts, it will be impossible to stop
> it. It will end with ejection of the Earth’s shell into outer space.
>
> I give the following probabilities:
> A. 10% - magnetic collapse will start at 0.45 TeV; B. 50% - magnetic
> collapse will start at 3.5 TeV, if A did not happen;
> C. 70% - magnetic collapse will start at 7 TeV, if B did not happen. 30%
> I leave to my mistake.
>
> Why is such confidence?
>
> Compare Newtonian black hole and magnetic hole: GMm / r = mc^2 / 2;
> pB = mc^2.
>
> It was obtained two independent proofs that the equality pB = mc^2 is
> reached at the energies, achievable in modern colliders,
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html There are many arguments in
> favor the fact that magnetic holes exist, and astronomers see them, but
> call them on the error as black holes,
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/argen.html It was found several crude errors
> and criminal lies in the assessment documents about the safety of LHC,
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html
>
> The Earth after the magnetic collapse will transform into a small region
> of exited superconducting vacuum. This region’s diameter is about 10
> meters. The thickness is about 2.5 meters…
--
http://www.canonicalscience.org/
BLOG:
http://www.canonicalscience.org/en/publicationzone/canonicalsciencetoday/canonicalsciencetoday.html
Raymond Yohros
> > Amazing how ignorant it is possible to be. There is not now and there has
> > never been an EU president. Furthermore CERN is in Switzerland which is not
> > part of the EU, so even if there were an EU president (which as mentioned
> > earlier there is not) he or she could do nothing about it.
>
> CERN is the "child" of 20 countries.
can't you just be happy for this incredible achivement?
this amazing structure its like no other ever build.
it will bring light to many questions and
it is the kind of thing that its build with the future in mind.
there are a million things out there that could really
turn society into a wasteland
Uncle Al
>
> I wrote the letters to President of EU, to President of USA...
> But with great probability their secretaries will drop my letters into
> rubbish.
Be proactive. Do it yourself.
> So, if you do not want to play in Russian Roulette, compose your own
> letter or agree with mine.
[snip crap]
idiot
> I am the author of the theory of magnetic hole.
[snip more crap]
idiot
> The Earth after the magnetic collapse will transform into a small
> region of exited superconducting vacuum. This region�s diameter is
> about 10 meters. The thickness is about 2.5 meters�
[end of crap]
All gone.
idiot
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
Magnetic
To bomb the LHC now is better, than LHS destroy the Earth. CERN
physicists do not want to listen about magnetic hole. They are
potential killers of our planet. CERN physicists must be put into
prison now; - otherwise they kill all of us.
The rate of MH’s growth is not known exactly. Magnetic Hole can
destroy the Earth in the period from 1000 seconds to 1000 days. If the
second is correct, then you will wish to bomb the LHC yourself. But
then it would not save you already. Because Magnetic Holes would
already grow inside the Earth.
I repeat: the probability of Earth explosion, caused by LHC, is about
50 %.
Inertial
>> > respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
>> > But as we can see, CERN continues their preparations to this crime
>> > experiment. Conclusion - the science is criminal now!
>>
>> So you think some country will bomb the LHC before it can get'm?
>
> To bomb the LHC now is better, than LHS destroy the Earth. CERN
> physicists do not want to listen about magnetic hole. They are
> potential killers of our planet. CERN physicists must be put into
> prison now; - otherwise they kill all of us.
>
> destroy the Earth in the period from 1000 seconds to 1000 days. If the
> second is correct, then you will wish to bomb the LHC yourself. But
> then it would not save you already. Because Magnetic Holes would
> already grow inside the Earth.
>
> I repeat: the probability of Earth explosion, caused by LHC, is about
> 50 %.
Probability that you're a complete psycho nut case is 100%.
Magnetic
> >> > According to Russian online “opinion pole” at November 6, 2009, 52% of
> >> > respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
> >> > But as we can see, CERN continues their preparations to this crime
> >> > experiment. Conclusion - the science is criminal now!
>
> >> So you think some country will bomb the LHC before it can get'm?
>
> > To bomb the LHC now is better, than LHS destroy the Earth. CERN
> > physicists do not want to listen about magnetic hole. They are
> > potential killers of our planet. CERN physicists must be put into
> > prison now; - otherwise they kill all of us.
>
> > destroy the Earth in the period from 1000 seconds to 1000 days. If the
> > second is correct, then you will wish to bomb the LHC yourself. But
> > then it would not save you already. Because Magnetic Holes would
> > already grow inside the Earth.
>
> > I repeat: the probability of Earth explosion, caused by LHC, is about
> > 50 %.
>
> Probability that you're a complete psycho nut case is 100%.
Listen, “Inertial”.
You did not understand what magnetic hole is. It is quite had.
But you can try if I am a liar or a stupid boy by solving two my
simple problems.
1.
Let the length of free path of a particle is equal to 1 meter, r = 1
m.
Let the radius of the object is equal to 1000 meters, R = 1000 m.
How many collisions will undergo the particle in order to exit the
object?
Solution. R/r = 1000. N = (R/r)^2 = 1 000 000.
2. How many Earth’s protons will ruin the dangerous particle if R/r =
10^9?
A. CERN’s solution: N = (R/r)^2 = 10^18.
B. My solution: The Earth has its own gravity field. Consequently, the
trajectory of a particle between collisions will not be straight line,
but curved to the center of attraction. As a result the dangerous
particle will constantly drift to the center of the Earth. As a result
the dangerous particle will ruin about N/n Earth’s protons, where:
N – the total number of Earth’s protons; n – the number of created
dangerous particles.
Dear "Inertial", which solution is correct: mine or CERN’s?
That was one crude error, made in the CERN’s safety documentation.
I had fount three such errors and one false assertion.
CERN will kill you if you will not ruin this criminal organization.
Harry, you have only about 20 days to do that and save your and your
children’s lives.
John Christiansen
More than 20 countries are contributing to CERN and far from all of them are
members of the EU. Switzerland where it is located is one of them. President
of the European comission is not the same as president of the EU. That is
simply the title for the highest ranked civil servant in the EU though he
has some political power. However the EU palament can overrule him any time,
and unlike the USA president he can not veto anything, all he can do is
bring up suggestions. I live in the EU unfortunately.
jmfbahciv
>>> respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
>>> But as we can see, CERN continues their preparations to this crime
>>> experiment. Conclusion - the science is criminal now!
>> So you think some country will bomb the LHC before it can get'm?
>
> To bomb the LHC now is better, than LHS destroy the Earth. CERN
> physicists do not want to listen about magnetic hole. They are
> potential killers of our planet. CERN physicists must be put into
> prison now; - otherwise they kill all of us.
>
> destroy the Earth in the period from 1000 seconds to 1000 days. If the
> second is correct, then you will wish to bomb the LHC yourself. But
> then it would not save you already. Because Magnetic Holes would
> already grow inside the Earth.
>
> I repeat: the probability of Earth explosion, caused by LHC, is about
> 50 %.
This is another fiction that has been promoted by Coast-to-Coast.
CERN is not the thing that should be eliminated.
/BAH
eric gisse
> Magnetic wrote:
>> On Nov 6, 4:35 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>> Magnetic wrote:
>>>> According to Russian online ?opinion pole? at November 6, 2009, 52% of
>>>> respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
>>>> But as we can see, CERN continues their preparations to this crime
>>>> experiment. Conclusion - the science is criminal now!
>>>> Is there online ?opinion pole? about LHC in English?
>>> So you think some country will bomb the LHC before it can get'm?
>>
>> To bomb the LHC now is better, than LHS destroy the Earth. CERN
>> physicists do not want to listen about magnetic hole. They are
>> potential killers of our planet. CERN physicists must be put into
>> prison now; - otherwise they kill all of us.
>>
>> The rate of MH?s growth is not known exactly. Magnetic Hole can
>> destroy the Earth in the period from 1000 seconds to 1000 days. If the
>> second is correct, then you will wish to bomb the LHC yourself. But
>> then it would not save you already. Because Magnetic Holes would
>> already grow inside the Earth.
>>
>> I repeat: the probability of Earth explosion, caused by LHC, is about
>> 50 %.
>
> This is another fiction that has been promoted by Coast-to-Coast.
> CERN is not the thing that should be eliminated.
>
> /BAH
God, I'd have a ball on Coast to Coast with people who don't know what they
are talking about. I promise to get my mic cut within 20 minutes.
Sam Wormley
Have you presented calculation and gotten the physics correct,
or is the a gut instinct thing on your part. Show us your calculations.
tadchem
The history of eschatology shows that the probability of "the End" of
life, civilization, the earth, the universe, the solar system, etc. is
"practically" 0.
History tells us a society lasts anythere from a few hundred to a
couple thousand years.
Civilization (the building of cities) is about 7400 years old and
still going strong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridu
The fossil record tells us multicellular life is about 600 million
years old, and monocellular life is about 3.8 billion years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precambrian#Life_before_the_Cambrian
Cosmology tells us that the earth will remain habitanle for several
billion years, and that the sun will last 10 billion years.
Atop all this is the probability (about 50%) that you are a self-
deluded fool.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
G=EMC^2 Glazier
again melt down as I predicted it would going up to full power? Bert
Sam Wormley
> Sam Not very well informed these days. Is the LHC working or did it
> again melt down as I predicted it would going up to full power? Bert
>
LHC did not have meltdown, Herb. Some sparks up on the surface
due to bird dropping a crust of bread.... no big deal, but it
was a news story.
Herb, do you have public radio?
Jim Black
> o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle
> accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly
> short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)
There have been no black holes created in accelerators. What you are
probably thinking of is the use of the AdS/CFT duality to make calculations
about quark-gluon plasmas using black hole physics.
--
Jim E. Black (domain in headers)
How to filter out stupid arguments in 40tude Dialog:
!markread,ignore From "Name" +"<email address>"
[X] Watch/Ignore works on subthreads
alie...@gmail.com
> Inertial wrote:
> > > According to Russian online “opinion pole” at November 6, 2009, 52% of
> > > respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
> > So .. Russians are misinformed idiots.
>
> Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who
> are the misinformed idiot.
Are you seriously suggesting that science should be driven by public
opinion?
Mark L. Fergerson
Sam Wormley
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:40:03 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>> o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle
>> accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly
>> short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)
>
> There have been no black holes created in accelerators. What you are
> probably thinking of is the use of the AdS/CFT duality to make calculations
> about quark-gluon plasmas using black hole physics.
>
I'll see if I can find the citation of the article I read a
few years ago.
john
How much energy does it take to create a proton?
Because that's a black hole on the atomic scale,
which is what you are talking. Because you sure aren't ever going
to create a galactic nucleus.
And said proton isn't going to get any
larger (why aren't AGNs any smaller 13 billion
years ago?)
There are so many obvious inconsistencies in the Big
Bang theory all based on Doppler Shift
NOT being driven by Tired Light.
So in order to avoid Tired Light, we have a
Universe accelerating away from us (and only
us), Dark Matter, Dark Energy, etc etc
Seems like jumping out of the frying pan
into the fire.
john
Magnetic
> > > > respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
> > > So .. Russians are misinformed idiots.
> > Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who
> > are the misinformed idiot.
>
> Are you seriously suggesting that science should be driven by public
> opinion?
Physicists in their majority are confident that heavy particles,
created at LHC will decay.
That is a crude error.
LHC can create a particle with the mass by 10 000 times greater than
the mass of proton.
To imagine this, compare the masses of a human and of a railway train.
Imagine the situation if biologists would make a creature with the
mass of railway train, but having the human size. What will happen to
you if this creature would seat at the roof of your house, exactly
over you? Any roof will be broken and you would be smashed into a thin
film and pushed deep into the ground.
Now imagine a proton, as soup babble, and a liquid drop of the same
size.
What will happen to protons, if the babble has a field, attracting
protons?
Protons would be ruined and their remnants would condense onto the
drop.
Particle physicists have no such imagination. Those idiots think that
proton consists from three point-like quarks. In fact proton is
composed from some continuous substance, rotating with relativistic
velocity. This rotating substance creates three mixed electro-magneto-
weak poles: u, u, d. At strong magnetic field this three-pole
construction can be ruined, and the two-pole construction can be
created. This process is accompanied by ejection of positron.
There are two independent math proves that this reconstruction can be
performed at energies about 0,25 TeV per colliding particle, if the
magnetic moment of resulting two-pole particle is the same as the
magnetic moment of proton. If its value is different, then the needed
energy would also be different.
Official science is corrupted and rotten organism. It will never
approve the idea, created at the camp of independent researchers.
Official science would better explode the Earth, than say that
magnetic holes are possible and that LHC is deadly dangerous for our
civilization. That is why the official science is criminal now. So, do
not think that CERN would stop the LHC. CERN will kill us all with
probability about 50%.
jmfbahciv
> On Nov 6, 2:39 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>
>> Inertial wrote:
>>>> respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
>>> So .. Russians are misinformed idiots.
>> Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who
>> are the misinformed idiot.
>
> Are you seriously suggesting that science should be driven by public
> opinion?
>
>
which question to ask.
/BAH
Autymn D. C.
Learn the meaning of dearth and babble.
Learn about gravitomagnetism--which is a misnomer, as it's not
"magnetic"--or frame dragging, or Lense-Thirring effect.
There was a similar doomsday site about magnetic monopoles, which I
also refutd here: http://egroups.com/message/free_energy/31089.
Holes are a breakdown in maths, not in mekanics. Therefore they are
impossibil, and there are no singularities of any kind, build, or
brand: http://twitter.com/alysdexia/status/4323682209. By the way,
holes break conservation of momentum in your very argument.
Here was my argument against Planck singularities:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Orders_of_magnitude_(temperature).
Would you like to bet me all of your money? Hell, everyone should bet
me there are any black holes.
-Aut
Autymn D. C.
> History tells us a society lasts anythere from a few hundred to a
> couple thousand years.
The Mayans died out by drouht by treefelling, not lizardmen
abductions.
> Civilization (the building of cities) is about 7400 years old and
> still going strong.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridu
Woot, Sumerians own God/Gods/Godhead: http://twitter.com/alysdexia/status/5475389149.
If Americans only knew.
> The fossil record tells us multicellular life is about 600 million
> years old, and monocellular life is about 3.8 billion years old.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precambrian#Life_before_the_Cambrian
>
> Cosmology tells us that the earth will remain habitanle for several
> billion years, and that the sun will last 10 billion years.
If they ever stir the sun, it could last for maybe half a quintillion
years.
-Aut
Autymn D. C.
> > BH’s radius is 10^51 m.
> > MH’s radius is 10^16 m.
>
> tipo, lost the sing "-"!
>
> BH’s radius is 10^-51 m.
About your mcc equivalenty, you seem to misunderstand the role of
Zitterbewegung at the Schwinger-Dirac threshhold; it's not a maghic
cliff where everything blows up or down; when a body earns another
self-potential nothing special happens other than the ability to clone
itself. Holes are a fantasy of failers.
-Aut
tj Frazir
The morons that buld it dont know shit about gravity or mass.
They think they see the tracks of particals but might only see te
splash.
THEY WOUNT STOP TIME and have a BH.
They wount make enouph heat to get a joint lit.
tj Frazir
and your soul.
How hot is cern ?
Not hot enouph and not under any presure.
Its a hot spark about 135000 F.
Thats not hot enouph to strip an atom down .
ALL cern can do is knock neutrons around by impact.
cern cant do 10 million deg F .
At 10 MF an atom is stripped down to the proton . Cern moves no protons
from any atoms.
It would be a big deal if cern could knock a proton out of an atom but
its just not hot enouph to strip it down that far.
tj Frazir
How hot is hot enouph to convert a proton to light ?
1 nuetron getting an atom hot nouph to ject 2 nuetrons is as hot as
cern can go.
Cern can get 2 neutrons from a few million atoms but cant get a single
proton out of an atom.
The neuton orbits above the protons .
You cant smash an atom all you can do is knock 2 nutrons out of it with
1 .
The notion a rock going near c will do it is just FUCKING stupid.
cern can do nothing a nuetron cant do.
It cant strip an atom down to a proton.
Thats just fucking stupid. cern is a shiney pice of shit.
tj Frazir
No proton by its self ever hit anything.
10 million deg and 1 million psi is a bunch of protons with all the
rest gone.
Cern cant do that.
cern is a neutron only machine.
If anyone thinks cern will strip an atom down to a proton or knock a
proton by its self out of an atom they are nutz.
cern is a big stupid thing of ignorance.
A rock near c is no better then neutrons at c.
No protons will be exchanged.
AD
There is a EU presidency that changes every 6 months.
And with the new treaty in place, the ministers of the member states
will chose the first EU president next week.
Richard Tobin
eric gisse <jowr.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > A. 10% - magnetic collapse will start at 0.45 TeV;
>>> > B. 50% - magnetic collapse will start at 3.5 TeV, if A did not
>>> > happen;
[...]
>What will you do if nothing happens?
That's why he gives probabilities like 50%, so that when nothing happens
he can deny that he's been discredited.
-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.
John Christiansen
"AD" <andre...@scarlet.be> skrev i en meddelelse
news:fea810fd-d0b7-4b14...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
The 'precidency' that changes every 6 months is a chaimanship, not a
precidency. The coming president is not an elected one but an appointed one
with not much political power. The EU president will have to ask the
national leaders of the EU nations before being able to act. Again this
president is more like a civil servant than a real president like those you
see in the USA, Brazil, Russia, Egypt, Germany, France, Venezuela or Israel.
Media Watcher
GENEVA
QUOTE
Sir Martin Rees (England's Astronomer Royal) on page 123 of his book
'Our Final Hour':
Most of the 'natural' cosmic collisions happen in interstellar space,
in an environment so rarefied that even if they produced a strangelet,
it would be unlikely to encounter a third nucleus, so there would be
no chance of a runaway process. Collisions with Earth also differ in
an essential way from those in accelerators, because incoming nuclei
are stopped in the atmosphere, which does not contain heavy atoms like
lead and gold. Some fast-moving nuclei, however impact directly on the
Moon's solid surface, which does contain such atoms. Such impacts have
occurred over it's entire history. The Moon is nonetheless still
there, and the authors of the Brookhaven (and CERN) report proffered
this indisputable fact as reassurance that the proposed experiment
couldn't wipe us out. But even these impacts differ in one possibly
important way from those that would occur in the Brookhaven (and CERN)
accelerator. When a fast particle crashes onto the Moon's surface, it
hits a nucleus that is almost at rest, and gives it a 'kick' or
recoil. The resultant strangelets, produced as debris in the
collision, would share this recoil motion, and therefore be sent
hurtling through the lunar material. In contrast, the accelerator
experiments involve symmetrical collisions, where two particles
approach each other 'head on'. There is then no recoil: the
strangelets have no net motion and therefore might stand more chance
of grabbing ambient material.
*** Where in it's safety rapports does CERN address these differences
between cosmic rays and the LHC collisions...?
QUOTE
NRO book review 'Our Final Hour' (Sir Martin Rees):
Messing with the fundamentals of physics could have very dramatic
consequences. At the time of the first nuclear explosions in 1945,
some of the physicists involved wondered if they might ignite a chain
reaction that would destroy Earth's atmosphere. A quick back-of-the-
envelope calculation seemed reassuring, so they went ahead with the
Trinity test. It is now clear that there was no possibility of
worldwide conflagration from Trinity; but issues of this sort are now
coming up with accelerating frequency, and there is a chance that
sooner or later we shall get one of them wrong. The whole point of a
scientific experiment, after all, is to find out what will happen
if.... There is no knowing in advance. If there were, the experiment
would have no point. The kinds of experiments we shall soon be
conducting might, according to perfectly respectable theories, have
very dire results. One possibility is the swift reduction of our
planet to a sphere of super-dense 'strange matter' about a hundred
yards across. Another is the annihilation of space-time itself —
though since the sphere of annihilation could expand only at the speed
of light, it would take a few billion years to swallow up the whole
universe.
QUOTE
Warren Platts:
It is said that the chance of it destroying the earth through the
creation of a particle called a strangelet is only about 1 in 50
million and the chance of it creating a black hole which does not
evaporate is much less than this. However, these are not the
probabilities we are looking for. The problem is that the calculations
don't consider that the physical theories they are using could
themselves be incorrect. For example, a hundred and twenty years ago,
the scientific consensus held that Newtonian mechanics was the
ultimate physical theory. If they had to calculate the chance that an
experiment could lead to the curving of space and time, they would
have said there was no chance at all. They would have been at least as
certain of this as the directors of the LHC are, and they would have
gotten it wrong. We could be in just such a situation and with the
highest possible stakes at risk. There is, however, one large
dissimilarity between now and then. In the late 19th Century, there
was a huge amount of evidence in favour of Newtonian mechanics and
only a few nagging lose ends that hadn't been explained. Now, however,
we are genuinely uncertain about our physical theories. Moreover, we
know that our current theories are false because they don't correctly
merge Relativity Theory and Quantum Mechanics. Considering the stakes,
it is thus highly irresponsible for the LHC's management to give so
much emphasis to these misleading probability calculations, when the
real chance is clearly higher.
QUOTE
Nostradamus 9 44:
"All should leave Geneva,
Saturn turns from gold to iron.
The contrary positive ray (RAYPOZ) will exterminate everything.
There will be signs in the sky before this."
You may laugh, but please do note the unusual wording for the time
such as 'contrary positive ray' and 'Saturn' (also ringed) in this
quite remarkable prediction and also that Nostradamus did not mention
Paris, Rome, London or any other city but specifically Geneva... What
are the (mathematical) probabilities that this is all pure
coincidence?
Could it be possible that, given quantum non-locality of particles in
both space and time, the consciousness of some people is able to (be
it distorted) connect with other space/time locations in the Universe?
Quantum non-locality is most definitely science. Also it is science
observed but not understood. There is much that is not properly known
or even discussed about the far reaching effects of quantum
positioning.
In a connected quantum way a disaster may have echoes through time.
On a "positive" note, if Nostradamus's prediction is correct, and
there's a disaster at CERN, it seems to be limited to Geneva...
alie...@gmail.com
Reread this part:
> When a fast particle crashes onto the Moon's surface, it
> hits a nucleus that is almost at rest, and gives it a 'kick' or
> recoil. The resultant strangelets, produced as debris in the
> collision, would share this recoil motion, and therefore be sent
> hurtling through the lunar material.
"the lunar material" being THE ENTIRE MOON's worth of "ambient
material" the putative strangelet would "stand more chance of
grabbing".
Notice the Moon still exists.
The Moon isn't special in this regard; any astronomical body is
equally subject to this "risk".
Notice all the planets orbiting our Sun still exist.
Notice our Sun still exists.
Notice planets orbiting other stars still exist.
Notice other stars still exist.
Notice our entire galaxy still exists.
Notice an ENTIRE UNIVERSE full of galaxies still exists.
Get a clue. Rees is full of crap on this.
> QUOTE
> NRO book review 'Our Final Hour' (Sir Martin Rees):
(further Chicken Little nonsense snipped)
How Rees got his appointment is something of a mystery to me; must
have been political.
Oh, wait...
QUOTE
(Sir Martin Rees):
"Let me say that I don’t see any conflict between science and
religion. I go to church as many other scientists do. I share with
most religious people a sense of mystery and wonder at the universe
and I want to participate in religious ritual and practices because
they’re something that all humans can share.”
Rees can't tell the difference between what can be and what scares
him.
> QUOTE
> Warren Platts:
(more fearmongering "maybes" snipped)
> QUOTE
> Nostradamus 9 44:
Oh, please. You cite Nostradamus in the sci hierarchy?
Mark L. Fergerson
Media Watcher
cosmic rays and the LHC collisions.
Magnetic
> Notice the Moon still exists.
> Notice all the planets orbiting our Sun still exist.
Idiot, where is Phaeton?
> Notice our Sun still exists.
>
> Notice planets orbiting other stars still exist.
>
> Notice other stars still exist.
Idiot, what are novae and supernovae?
CERN, LHC, Phaeton, Earth, Dearth.
Get up, and take action!
Save your mothers and children!
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
Inertial
news:10eda496-d780-4c00...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
You're a lunatic .. get help
Sam Wormley
Bzzzt! No end in sight.
alie...@gmail.com
Learn to spell "reports", you idiot.
There is no relevant difference between "cosmic rays and the LHC
collisions" in this context. Energy is energy, if the one were going
to create strangelets so would the other.
Learn something, ANYTHING.
Mark L. Fergerson
alie...@gmail.com
> > Notice the Moon still exists.
> > Notice all the planets orbiting our Sun still exist.
>
> Idiot, where is Phaeton?
There never was any such planet, idiot. There isn't enough stuff in
the asteroid "belt" to make a decent moon. There's about one percent
of Earth's mass, total.
> > Notice our Sun still exists.
>
> > Notice planets orbiting other stars still exist.
>
> > Notice other stars still exist.
>
> Idiot, what are novae and supernovae?
Exploded stars, idiot. Not by your doomsday fantasies either.
> CERN, LHC, Phaeton, Earth, Dearth.
>
> Get up, and take action!
You DO realize that your threat in another thread to kill
vacationing Swiss etc. amounts to a declaration of intent to commit
terrorism, don't you? Shall I bring it to the attention of your ISP
and say perhaps your local law enforcement, or will you come to your
senses?
Mark L. Fergerson
Aleph
@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, magnet...@yandex.ua says...
>
> > Notice the Moon still exists.
>
> > Notice all the planets orbiting our Sun still exist.
>
> Idiot, where is Phaeton?
Where is my great grandmother?
> > Notice our Sun still exists.
> >
> > Notice planets orbiting other stars still exist.
> >
> > Notice other stars still exist.
>
> Idiot, what are novae and supernovae?
Yet there are still other stars. Isnt that amazing.
> CERN, LHC, Phaeton, Earth, Dearth.
Where is Dearth?
> Get up, and take action!
> Save your mothers and children!
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
Cluelessness is nothing to be proud of, although if it wasnt for people
like you USENET would have no purpose.
Sam Wormley
Start by getting a better education.
o The energy that can be supplied to a collision by the Large
Hadron Collider (LHC) is a piffle, compared to similar collision
(cosmic rays) taking place over your head right here right now.
Cosmic Ray energies range from five to ten orders of magnitude
greater than the maximum energy that can be pumped into a collision
in the LHC.
o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle
accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly
short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)
o There is no possibility to pump enough energy into a black hole
to have any substantial mass.
o There is no way to create a black hole in a laboratory that can
sustain itself.
Magnetic
Magnetic hole can kill the Earth soon.
Global terrorists from CERN are already ready to make mmhs.
CERN, LHC, Phaeton, Earth, Death.
Stop CERN! Block the entrances to LHC. Ruin criminal Official Science!
Read these and save your children: http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ Print
and widespread!
Inertial
You are a paranoid psychotic .. you know that , don't you. Seek help
Sam Wormley
> Idiot, micro black hole (gravitatioal) is safe.
> Magnetic hole can kill the Earth soon.
> Global terrorists from CERN are already ready to make mmhs.
I don't know why you call me an idiot, just because you have
made of this "magnetic hole" shit. Get a life!
Aleph
@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, magnet...@yandex.ua says...
>
> Idiot, micro black hole (gravitatioal) is safe.
Aha, so something you have made up is safe and everything else is
dangerous.
Gotcha.
> Magnetic hole can kill the Earth soon.
Diamondvison lets you see through banana skins.
> Global terrorists from CERN are already ready to make mmhs.
I'd rather they made hootch.
> CERN, LHC, Phaeton, Earth, Death.
"What five words dont belong together?"
> Stop CERN! Block the entrances to LHC. Ruin criminal Official Science!
Eeek! Not OFFICIAL SCIENCE! Oh noes !!eleventyone!!
> Read these and save your children: http://darkenergy.madness.narod.ru/
> Print
> and widespread!
You are a k00k. A mildly entertaining one, but a k00k nonetheless.
Robert Higgins
<snipped balthering quotes>
>
> QUOTE
> Nostradamus 9 44:
>
> "All should leave Geneva,
> Saturn turns from gold to iron.
> The contrary positive ray (RAYPOZ) will exterminate everything.
> There will be signs in the sky before this."
I diidn't believe the previous quote, but once you mention
Nostradamus, I just KNEW you had to be correct.
>
> You may laugh, but please do note the unusual wording for the time
> such as 'contrary positive ray' and 'Saturn' (also ringed) in this
You DO know that Nostradamus could NOT have used the words you
mention, being as he didn't write in English...
> quite remarkable prediction and also that Nostradamus did not mention
> Paris, Rome, London or any other city but specifically Geneva...
Whew! Not Amsterdam (Coffeeshops!). Cool, then I don't care.
> What
> are the (mathematical) probabilities that this is all pure
> coincidence?
100%!!!!
>
> Could it be possible that, given quantum non-locality of particles in
> both space and time, the consciousness of some people is able to (be
> it distorted) connect with other space/time locations in the Universe?
NO.
>
> Quantum non-locality is most definitely science. Also it is science
> observed but not understood. There is much that is not properly known
> or even discussed about the far reaching effects of quantum
> positioning.
There is also much that is not understood about k00ks posting
incessantly about their wacky conspiracy theories.
>
> In a connected quantum way a disaster may have echoes through time.
LIke the disaster of widespread psychosis and scientific illiteracy
exhibited on USENET?
Media Watcher
nothing but inconvenience will be suffered by the passengers."
-Phillip Franklin, White Star Line Vice-President
"I thought her unsinkable and I based my opinion on the best expert
advice."
-Phillip Franklin, White Star Line Vice President
Media Watcher
> On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...@telenet.be> wrote:
>
>
> Learn to spell "reports", you idiot.
>
>
I'm Dutch speaking.
I'm not an idiot.
I bet my English spelling is a whole lot better than your Dutch.
And here are two more quotes:
Inertial
news:6e2fcfa8-305c-4166...@s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 19, 12:07 am, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...@telenet.be> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Learn to spell "reports", you idiot.
>>
>>
>> Mark L. Fergerson
>
>
> I'm Dutch speaking.
Nice
> I'm not an idiot.
Not so sure from your posts
> I bet my English spelling is a whole lot better than your Dutch.
Certainly better than mine
> And here are two more quotes:
>
> "There is no danger that Titanic will sink. The boat is unsinkable and
> nothing but inconvenience will be suffered by the passengers."
> -Phillip Franklin, White Star Line Vice-President
>
> "I thought her unsinkable and I based my opinion on the best expert
> advice."
> -Phillip Franklin, White Star Line Vice President
Lets not take cruise on that one then.
Media Watcher
Energy is indeed energy, but the way the energy handled is very much
different.
For example 120/220 Volt A/C directly earthed with a wire causes no
harm.
That same energy that flows through your body and meets you body's
resistance, in order to reach earth will destroy your body.
Same energy but with quite a different result...
Greg Neill
So, you're saying that electricity flowing through
your body could create a black hole just because the
energy is being "handled" differently?
That argument makes about as much sense physics-wise as
saying cosmic rays can't create dangerous black holes
but the LHC can because the energy is handled differently;
It's tantamount to believing in magic.
Aleph
caaf45...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, Media Watcher sat down and
wrote:
Argh, the stupid. It burns.
--
Aleph
This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
this account are very likely to be ignored.
Media Watcher
>
> So, you're saying that electricity flowing through
> your body could create a black hole just because the
> energy is being "handled" differently?
This is not what I'm saying and you know it.
Don't try to be funny by using twisted logic.
Being hit by a 4 square feet piece aliminium will not likely create a
'red hole' in your body.
However, this same energy concentrated in a small bullet will most
certainly create a 'red hole' in your body.
Greg Neill
> On Nov 19, 3:18 pm, "Greg Neill" <gneil...@MOVEsympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> So, you're saying that electricity flowing through
>> your body could create a black hole just because the
>> energy is being "handled" differently?
>
>
> This is not what I'm saying and you know it.
No, I think it mirrors your thinking exactly.
> Don't try to be funny by using twisted logic.
But mysticism and magic is okay?
> Being hit by a 4 square feet piece aliminium will not likely create a
> 'red hole' in your body.
> However, this same energy concentrated in a small bullet will most
> certainly create a 'red hole' in your body.
Yes, so? Same thing for LHC and cosmic rays. Cosmic
ray bullets can have far greater energies than LHS
ones, and are made of the same "stuff". Your argument
fails on trivial scientific grounds.
Aleph
a95972...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Media Watcher sat down and wrote:
> This is not what I'm saying and you know it.
> Don't try to be funny by using twisted logic.
> Being hit by a 4 square feet piece aliminium will not likely create a
> 'red hole' in your body.
> However, this same energy concentrated in a small bullet will most
> certainly create a 'red hole' in your body.
Defeated by your own analogy.
Wonderful.
BradGuth
Double density protons (even a great many of them) are really small,
as in smaller than most any human cell. Molecular DNA is another
matter.
~ BG
BradGuth
It'll be extremely slow going at LHC, at least at first. The hour by
hour reports as to what they are accomplishing or breaking this time
should be interesting. I'm glad that I happen to live on the opposite
side of this world, and if I could manage to live off-world, I
certainly would. I certainly hope and prey that you're dead wrong
about the LHC "magnetic hole" as a global EMP.
~ BG
Dr Ivan D. Reid
Enough with the non sequiturs, m'kay?
--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
alie...@gmail.com
> On Nov 19, 12:07 am, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...@telenet.be> wrote:
>
> > Learn to spell "reports", you idiot.
>
> > Mark L. Fergerson
>
> I'm Dutch speaking.
I don't need to hear any excuses from you. You want to be understood
in English, learn to write properly in it.
> I'm not an idiot.
You side with "Magnetic". Yes, you are an idiot.
> I bet my English spelling is a whole lot better than your Dutch.
So what? I'm not writing for the benefit of those who can only read
Dutch.
> And here are two more quotes:
>
> "There is no danger that Titanic will sink. The boat is unsinkable and
> nothing but inconvenience will be suffered by the passengers."
> -Phillip Franklin, White Star Line Vice-President
>
> "I thought her unsinkable and I based my opinion on the best expert
> advice."
> -Phillip Franklin, White Star Line Vice President
Not relevant, and you know it.
If you don't know it, and can't see why they're irrelevant, it's
because you're an idiot.
Mark L. Fergerson
Dr Ivan D. Reid
Of course it's slow going -- you don't throw those energies about
willy-nilly. I've experienced the side-effects of a mere 600 MeV proton
beam going the wrong way through a vacuum chamber (magnet wired the wrong
polarity...); CERN certainly doesn't want a repeat of last year's accident.
OTOH, I'm currently about 800 m from one of the interaction points
(ATLAS) and am ruing the fact that we may not get collisions this weekend.
Looks like I'll be "safely" back in London when it happens. :-(
alie...@gmail.com
> On Nov 19, 12:07 am, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...@telenet.be> wrote:
>
> > There is no relevant difference between "cosmic rays and the LHC
> > collisions" in this context. Energy is energy, if the one were going
> > to create strangelets so would the other.
>
> > Learn something, ANYTHING.
>
> different.
No, it is not.
> For example 120/220 Volt A/C directly earthed with a wire causes no
> harm.
The usual contracted form of "alternating current" requires no
slash. It's just AC. When you include the slash, it's generally
understood to mean "Air Conditioning".
Grounding a wire carrying power certainly will cause harm to
whatever is generating the power (also possibly melting the wires),
unless the circuit is properly fused.
> That same energy that flows through your body and meets you body's
> resistance, in order to reach earth will destroy your body.
Nonsense. I've taken many 120 volt and 220 volt shocks over the
course of my life. Jolting, but not fatal.
You should not use examples like that with someone who has not only
book learning of, but also "hands-on" experience with, electricity.
> Same energy but with quite a different result...
You are still an idiot, but now you're a deliberately obtuse idiot.
The energy in your example either does, or does not, pass through my
body. I'd expect a difference in effects.
In the referenced example- "cosmic rays and the LHC collisions", it
goes into particle collisions in both cases. Hence in both cases the
same effect should happen if "Magnetic" is right, but it happens in
neither case, so he is not right.
Learn some basic logic if science is too hard for you.
Whatever you do, stop believing "Magnetic".
Mark L. Fergerson
alie...@gmail.com
> Magnetic hole can kill the Earth soon.
There is no such thing; you have hallucinated it.
> Global terrorists from CERN are already ready to make mmhs.
You are the avowed intended terrorist.
> CERN, LHC, Phaeton, Earth, Death.
No such place as Phaeton. Never was.
> Stop CERN! Block the entrances to LHC. Ruin criminal Official Science!
Ruin it, because it laughs at you?
> Read these and save your children:http://darkenergy.narod.ru/Print
From "Magnetic trap of Devil!
"
"Majority of contemporary physicists imagine quark-gluon plasma as a
suck with peas."
You are still an idiot.
Mark L. Fergerson
Media Watcher
> On Nov 19, 5:45 am, Media Watcher <b...@telenet.be> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 12:07 am, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...@telenet.be> wrote:
>
> > > There is no relevant difference between "cosmic rays and the LHC
> > > collisions" in this context. Energy is energy, if the one were going
> > > to create strangelets so would the other.
>
> > > Learn something, ANYTHING.
>
> > Energy is indeed energy, but the way the energy handled is very much
> > different.
>
> No, it is not.
>
> > For example 120/220 Volt A/C directly earthed with a wire causes no
> > harm.
>
> The usual contracted form of "alternating current" requires no
> slash. It's just AC. When you include the slash, it's generally
> understood to mean "Air Conditioning".
Thanks for letting me know.
But even so, you still know much less words in Dutch as I know in
English.
>
> Grounding a wire carrying power certainly will cause harm to
> whatever is generating the power (also possibly melting the wires),
> unless the circuit is properly fused.
>
> > That same energy that flows through your body and meets you body's
> > resistance, in order to reach earth will destroy your body.
>
> Nonsense. I've taken many 120 volt and 220 volt shocks over the
> course of my life. Jolting, but not fatal.
> You should not use examples like that with someone who has not only
> book learning of, but also "hands-on" experience with, electricity.
Do you really? So have I.
Well, if it's a bad example, let's try 380 Volts.
BTW, it's not so much the voltage that kills, but rather the power
(symbol I and measured in Amperes) that kills.
So would you rather be submitted to 100A for a period of 1 second or
1A for a period of 100 seconds?
Only an "know-it-all" idiot will chose the first option because" in
his wisdom" he thinks it makes no difference.
But I say: Same energy, but in the first case you most probably die
instantly and in the other case you most probably stay alive.
The focusing/concentration of energy/matter in both space and time
gives quite a different result.
So, same energy but with quite a different result...
>
> You are still an idiot, but now you're a deliberately obtuse idiot.
What are your medical qualifications to call someone an idiot?
>
> The energy in your example either does, or does not, pass through my
> body. I'd expect a difference in effects.
>
> In the referenced example- "cosmic rays and the LHC collisions", it
> goes into particle collisions in both cases. Hence in both cases the
> same effect should happen if "Magnetic" is right, but it happens in
> neither case, so he is not right.
Did I mention 'magnetic' somewhere?
>
> Learn some basic logic if science is too hard for you.
>
> Whatever you do, stop believing "Magnetic".
>
> Mark L. Fergerson
Conclusion: Lots of rude idiot calling but no real answers.
Inertial
Did you ask any real questions?
BURT
> "Media Watcher" <b...@telenet.be> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
If black holes exist then there is certain end to mankind. But they
don't exist and nothing is going to happen.
Mitch Raemsch
Aleph
@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 19 Nov 2009
15:36:43 -0800 (PST), BURT <macro...@yahoo.com> imparted these words
of wisdom:
> If black holes exist then there is certain end to mankind. But they
> don't exist and nothing is going to happen.
>
How can you be so wrong with so few words?
--
Aleph
This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
to this account will be ignored.
BURT
> In article <2ec98db9-5b22-4568-a8bb-0a00e2c5ebe6
> @x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 19 Nov 2009
> of wisdom:
>
> > If black holes exist then there is certain end to mankind. But they
> > don't exist and nothing is going to happen.
>
> How can you be so wrong with so few words?
As soon as they create one it will All be over.
Aleph
@h40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 19 Nov 2009
15:58:38 -0800 (PST), BURT <macro...@yahoo.com> imparted these words
>
> On Nov 19, 3:45 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> > In article <2ec98db9-5b22-4568-a8bb-0a00e2c5ebe6
> > @x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 19 Nov 2009
> > 15:36:43 -0800 (PST), BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> imparted these words
> > of wisdom:
> >
> > > If black holes exist then there is certain end to mankind. But they
> > > don't exist and nothing is going to happen.
> >
> > How can you be so wrong with so few words?
>
> As soon as they create one it will All be over.
I say again....
socratus
The mad CERN ’s project.
=== .
In 1906, Rutherford studied internal structure of atoms,
bombarding them with high energy a- particles.
This idea helped him understand the structure of atom.
But the clever Devil interfered and gave advice to physicists
to enlarge the target. Bomb them!
And physicist created huge cannon-accelerators of particles.
And they began to bomb micro particles in the vacuum, in hoping
to understand their inner structure. And they were surprised with
the results of this bombing. Several hundreds of completely new
strange particles appeared. They lived a very little time and do not
relate to our world. Our Earth needs its real constants of nature.
But this was forgotten.
What God carefully created, is destroyed in accelerators.
And they are proud of that. They say: we study the inner structure
of the particles. The clever and artful Devil is glad. He again has
deceived man.
Physicist think, that an accelerator - is first of all the presence
of huge energy.
And the Devil laughs. He knows, that an accelerator - is first of all
the Vacuum.
But this, he has withheld from man.
He has not explained that the Vacuum is infinite and inexhaustible.
And in infinity there is contained an infinite variety of particles.
And by bombing the vacuum, one can find centaurs and sphinxes.
But my God, save us from their presence on Earth.
========= .. ========.
Rutherford was right.
His followers are mistaken.
Why?
Imagine, that I want to plant a small apple- tree.
For this purpose I shall dig out a hole of 1 meter width and 1,20 m
depth.
It is normal.
But if to plant a small apple- tree, I shall begin to dig
a base for a huge building (skyscraper),
or if to begin drill ground with 10 km. depth,
will you call me a normal man?
========== .. ===============.
Imagine a man who breaks watches on the wall.
And then he tries to understand the mechanism of the watches
by thrown cogwheels, springs and small screws.
Does he have many chances to succeed?
As many as the scientists have who aspire to understand
the inner structure of electron by breaking them into accelerators.
If not take into account the initial conditions of Genesis,
the fantasies of the scientists may be unlimited.
========== . ======== .
The Nature works very economical.
For example, biologists know 100 ( hundred ) kinds of
amino acids. But only 20 ( twenty) kinds of amino acids
are suitable to produce molecules of protein, from which all
different cells created on our planet. What are about another
80 % of amino acids? They are dead end of evolution.
The physicists found many ( 1000 ) new elementary particles in
accelerators. But we need only one ( 1) electron and one (1 )
proton to create first atom, to begin to create the Nature.
All another elementary particles (mesons, muons , bosons, taus,
all their girlfriends - antiparticles, all quarks and antiquarks…
etc)
are dead end of evolution.
============.
What was before - “ the big bang” or the vacuum ?
The physicists created “ Europe’s Large Hadron Colider “
Please, look at how our physicists made this accelerator.
They made the vacuum and after they generated a big reaction
between two colliding particles in some small imitation of the
“big bang”. They didn’t make this process in the reverse.
So, what was prior in the Universe: “ big bang” or vacuum?
===========================..
The Universe as whole is Vacuum, first of all.
=== .
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.
http://www.wbabin.net/comments/sadovnik.htm
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=23624&st=15
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2547&st=105
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2548
================== . .
Aleph
0cfa2b...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Fri,
20 Nov 2009 14:33:48 -0800 (PST), socratus <isr...@yahoo.com> imparted
these words of wisdom:
>
Well, the second circle is completed now and the universe hasnt ended.