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Ast*rn*m*k*n

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May 15, 2002, 6:05:55 AM5/15/02
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Hap Griffin

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"Ast*rn*m*k*n" <p*s*d*n@pl*t*n.h*d*s> wrote in message
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(Foolishness mercifully clipped)

What an idiot!

HG

Spaceman

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May 15, 2002, 9:06:17 AM5/15/02
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Tell me who the hell put the three cars I can see there then
and the mirror thingies too?

Where did they come from?
Was it aliens?

But the cars have little Amercian flags on them.
Was it American aliens?
<LOL>


Rushtown

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May 15, 2002, 10:51:10 AM5/15/02
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The disbelief that nasa sent men to the moon comes from a misconception. An
understandable misconception, but a misconception nonetheless.
The misconception is that it is hard. Once nasa learned to orbit men and
learned docking then landing on the moon was easy. It was just an extension
of the same engineering.

Starlord

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May 15, 2002, 10:58:53 AM5/15/02
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No, it should be the other way around, Only an ASSHOLE like you would believe
that NASA did not send men to the moon.

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Steve Harris

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May 15, 2002, 10:56:43 AM5/15/02
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I would say that about GOING to the moon, as in orbiting it, ala Apollo 8.
But LANDING on it was not exactly just an extension of the same-ole
engineering. If you've ever played the game Lunar Lander you know who hard
it is. You've got to kill almost a mile/sec orbital velocity and descend
many miles-- you have limited fuel to do it, you've got to balance on your
exhaust, AND the computer helping you is, well-- you can't really call it a
computer. Not in terms of what we're used to today.

Pocket calculator would be too kind.

SBH

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RP Henry

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May 15, 2002, 11:38:56 AM5/15/02
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Steve Harris wrote:
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> "Rushtown" <rush...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20020515105110...@mb-mq.aol.com...
> > The disbelief that nasa sent men to the moon comes from a misconception.
> An
> > understandable misconception, but a misconception nonetheless.
> > The misconception is that it is hard. Once nasa learned to orbit men and
> > learned docking then landing on the moon was easy. It was just an
> extension
> > of the same engineering.
>
> I would say that about GOING to the moon, as in orbiting it, ala Apollo 8.
> But LANDING on it was not exactly just an extension of the same-ole
> engineering. If you've ever played the game Lunar Lander you know who hard
> it is. You've got to kill almost a mile/sec orbital velocity and descend
> many miles-- you have limited fuel to do it, you've got to balance on your
> exhaust, AND the computer helping you is, well-- you can't really call it a
> computer. Not in terms of what we're used to today.
>
> Pocket calculator would be too kind.
>

That's why we sent pilots.

Uncle Al

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May 15, 2002, 11:37:36 AM5/15/02
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Ast*rn*m*k*n wrote:
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Daniel Min, stick it up your ass where the rest of us don't have to
look at it.

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Michael Malolepszy

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May 15, 2002, 11:51:02 AM5/15/02
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Only a fool believes Daniel Min:

The Collected Buffoonery of Daniel J. Min - Usenet's most failed
prophet.

http://users.bigpond.net.au/wanglese/Buffoon.html


With regards to this fake moon landing stuff, see

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/

http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon.htm

http://www.clavius.org/

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

http://www.apollo-hoax.co.uk/

http://www.the-indigestible.com/specials/moon.htm

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm

K. Michael Malolepszy

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Patrick Gaul

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May 15, 2002, 2:29:14 PM5/15/02
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Interesting irony in the statement from this guy, that "only a fool believes
NASA sent men to the moon", and he expects that all of us would believe that
the positions of the planets at the time of our birth affects our
personalities. Seems to me that only a fool would believe THAT. Given the
choice between something which is completely technically feasible and
something which is based on ancient superstitions and has no grounding in
true natural physics...well, I think it's pretty obvious which one I'd
choose.

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Martin Hogbin

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May 15, 2002, 3:26:22 PM5/15/02
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Go get him Spaceman.

Martin Hogbin


Yellow Shark

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May 15, 2002, 4:11:21 PM5/15/02
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Nice to come across a post in this newsgroup written by someone who
apparently isn't governed by irrationality. Thanks for the coherence and
insight!

-Jerry
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tj Frazir

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May 15, 2002, 10:33:04 PM5/15/02
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Address:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/images/a11earthrise.jpg
Changed:4:02 PM on Friday, April 7, 1995
hubble allso toulk a pic ,,but the storm in the south pac was seen
from the moon .
The press spoke and then neal talked to his wife and droped the rock
and fether .
NASA NEW SOME DUMBFUCKSTICK would say they never went ,,,so the rock
and feter proved it ,,1 he went up in a rocket 2,,,he droped a rock on
the moon .

Mac

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May 15, 2002, 10:35:01 PM5/15/02
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On 15 May 2002 10:05:55 -0000, Ast*rn*m*k*n
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Well, Min, you are a fool.
Therefore, you must believe NASA sent humans to the Moon.
---Mac

Graham Pratt

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May 15, 2002, 11:50:06 PM5/15/02
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"Spaceman" <MI...@realspaceman.common> wrote in message news:<ue4n649...@corp.supernews.com>...
> Tell me who the hell put the three cars I can see there then
> and the mirror thingies too?
>

Just how good a telescope would you need to see them from earth?

If the Hubble 'scope was pointed that direction it sure would
provide proof. Maybe if we pass a hat around we could raise enough
for just one pic?? ;-)

GP.

Chosp

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May 16, 2002, 5:42:58 AM5/16/02
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"Graham Pratt" <gpr...@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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No it wouldn't. Hubble has already imaged the moon.
You'd need a lot bigger mirror than the one Hubble has.


Ian Stirling

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May 17, 2002, 2:15:35 AM5/17/02
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I believe some of the new optical interferometers may have the
resolution to do it.
I don't know if other things might prevent them.

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Mike Byrne

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May 18, 2002, 12:07:52 AM5/18/02
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> I believe some of the new optical interferometers may have the
> resolution to do it.
> I don't know if other things might prevent them.

Possibly, But I doubt that any time allocation committee would grant
precious telescope time to such a project. Even if they did, It wouldn't
satisfy the Moon Hoax Community; they would just claim they were faked
images.
-Mike

m.b...@mybc.com

Chosp

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May 18, 2002, 12:29:37 PM5/18/02
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"Mike Byrne" <m.b...@mybc.com> wrote in message
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My understanding is that the VLT (Very Large Telescope)
interferometer in Chile, which will be the largest interferometer
in the world when completed, would be able to identify
an astronaut on the moon but not something as small as a
footprint. By 2005 we should have the capability of imaging
the landing sites.
I agree that such a proposal would have an incredible battle
for telescope time. I seem to recall, however, that there are
some GTOs ( Guaranteed Time Observers) who can shoot
pretty much what they want with their time - so who knows?
I also agree that absolutely nothing will satisfy the
Moon Hoax Community. They are a lost cause.

tj Frazir

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May 18, 2002, 1:26:25 PM5/18/02
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I agree the fucking moon fake people are too stupid to deal with facts
and is why they believe it as fake . It toulk 0 science to make te tink
its was fake and they are assholes, ,and assholes are never wrong .
Now the rest of you want to discuss gravity or ingnore the facts that
gravity is a push to less energy and is identical to the laws of
conservation ?

Ian Stirling

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May 18, 2002, 2:56:59 PM5/18/02
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In sci.physics Chosp <ch...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> "Mike Byrne" <m.b...@mybc.com> wrote in message
> news:3ce5d...@139.142.118.11...
>> > I believe some of the new optical interferometers may have the
>> > resolution to do it.
>> > I don't know if other things might prevent them.
>>
>> Possibly, But I doubt that any time allocation committee would grant
>> precious telescope time to such a project. Even if they did, It wouldn't
>> satisfy the Moon Hoax Community; they would just claim they were faked
>> images.
>> -Mike
>>
>> m.b...@mybc.com
>
> My understanding is that the VLT (Very Large Telescope)
> interferometer in Chile, which will be the largest interferometer
> in the world when completed, would be able to identify
> an astronaut on the moon but not something as small as a
> footprint. By 2005 we should have the capability of imaging
> the landing sites.

It's a pity that the resolution isn't a bit better.
CHARA, which AIUI is similar to the VLT specs, having a ~500m dish
would have a resolution of around 30cm, so the descent stages would
only be a few dozen pixels across.

I'd really like to see some pictures with ~5cm resolution, though
this doesn't seem possible with the current range of interferometers
being built.

Hmm, what actual science is doable?
Limited materials science from spectroscopy of the various bits.
Examination of the area scoured by the engine, to see how it's changed
colour.
Seeing what's collapsed after 30 years of vacuum/temperature swings.

alejandro.rivero

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May 20, 2002, 9:00:51 AM5/20/02
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Actually I like the wording of the subject line:

only a fool believes nasa sent men to the moon
^^^^

It is not telling that there was no men in the moon, it is
telling than NASA did not send them!

I could agree with this header. Because Von Braun send them!
It is amazing that after Von Braun left, nobody was able to
persuade politicians to keep projects running.

Strange man, v. Braun.

Alejandro

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