learn about the Large Hadron Collider, its detectors and the man who made it all happen
Sam Wormley
CERN special � learn about the Large Hadron Collider, its detectors and
the man who made it all happen
http://physicsworld.com/cws/m/1659/17632/article/indepth/41820
Magnetic
call themselves as scientists. Society, you are a stupid cattle -
because, despite the existence of this and similar web-sites, you did
nothing for the detention of terrorists, physicists from CERN and
other scoundrels, sitting in academies and promoting this blasphemous
experiment. Cattle, I do not feel sorry for you. I do not believe any
more that this experiment can be banned. Burn, all of you in this
bright last flame.
------------------------------------------
I reread the LSAG report once more and found there another error. The
binding energy of constituent element of strangelet is not several
MeV, as they wrote there, but about 500 MeV. So, all their talks about
thermal bath are erroneous. Strange matter is very dangerous!
The value 500 TeV, as a binding energy of (uds) in a strangelet
N(uds), can easily be received from comparison with the rest energy of
kaons K+ and K0, which are correspondingly 493 MeV and 497 MeV.
Kaons (K+=us; K0=ds) can be side products, occurring at the time of
proton (p=uud) and neutron (n=udd) capture by strange matter N(uds):
N(uds) + p = (N+1)(uds) + K+ = (N+1)(uds) + e+ + 500 MeV.
(N+1)(uds) + n = (N+2)(uds) + K0 = (N+2)(uds) + 500 MeV.
...
...
...
Extremely powerful explosion.
This explosion has specific energy output, which is hundred times
bigger than under the nuclear explosion.
By the way, at the time of November-December collisions there were
more Kaons output that it was theoretically predicted. That means that
we are very close to creation of this dead droplet, which can
transform the whole Earth into 10-meterr lump of strange\dead matter.
Space observations says us that periods of pulsars are almost do not
change. That means that strange matter is very stable.
Read about strange matter, strangelets, and strange stars in
Wikipedia. I think that our civilization is crazy. From one hand, it
already knows about a deadly dangerous strange matter; from the other
hand, it tries to create that dead droplet at colliders. I do not
understand you, people.
I wish you to become mentally healthy and STOP all powerful colliders.
Somebody wrote: Also the mass of a proton is 938.272 MeV/c^2 and the
mass of a uds is 1,115.683 MeV/c^2.
Mass of a free proton is 938.272 MeV/c^2.
Mass of a proton in deuteron is several MeV/c^2 less.
Mass of a proton in He is several MeV/c^2 less.
Mass of a proton in C is several MeV/c^2 less.
Mass of a proton in Fe is several MeV/c^2 less, and minimal.
These mass differences say us about binding energy.
Strange droplet consisting of a several (uds) is unstable and decay.
AFAIK some authors said that droplet could be stable if it has at
least 10 elements.
The more number of “strange nucleons” inside the droplet, the more
binding energy.
I think that its binding energy properties are analogues to those of a
magnetic hole. So I think that specific binding energy has a limit and
it lays somewhere near 500 MeV (or about of 1/2 of protons rest
energy).
Note. My computation for magnetic hole gives: energy of ruined protons
splits per two parts: 2/3 goes into creation of magnetic field; 1/3
goes into binding energy or simply emitted with radiation.
Strange matter has fermionic structure.
Magnetic hole has bosonic structure.
CERN physicist can create dead droplet, having fermionic, bosonic or
scirmionic structure. Any such condensate is dangerous, because it can
transform the whole Earth into dead extremely dense matter.
Now they collide protons with energies of about 0.45 TeV per proton.
In any of the next days the energy can be risen to 3.5 TeV. That can
create a microscopic droplet of death, and in a 1000 seconds our Earth
will be exploded.
PS: In the Galaxy at the time of about 100 000 000 000 years almost
all stars dies and the same number of stars are born. Now is the time
for our Sun. Who will push the button?
Uncle Al
>
> The Earth will be blown up in one of the next days,
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v2/104
<http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100304/full/news.2010.108.html>
idiot
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
Magnetic
> Magnetic wrote:
>
> > The Earth will be blown up in one of the next days,
>
> [snip crap]
>
> http://physics.aps.org/articles/v2/104
> <http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100304/full/news.2010.108.html>
By the way, look my formulae, which were written before this article
was published:
Creation:
p + p + 1000 TeV = p + p + N(usd) + N(u~s~d~).
N(usd) - strange droplet.
N(u~s~d~) - strange antidroplet.
N(u~s~d~) will annihilate with matter.
N(usd) will ruin the Earth like these:
N(uds) + p = (N+1)(uds) + K+ = (N+1)(uds) + e+ + 500 MeV.
(N+1)(uds) + n = (N+2)(uds) + K0 = (N+2)(uds) + 500 MeV.
The figure of N(usd) and N(u~s~d~) creation is analogues to my figure
of magnetic hole creation.
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/mh4.gif
p + p --> p + p + M.
The difference: instead of magnetic hole, M, imagine N(usd) flying
downward and N(u~s~d~) flying upward. Mention also chiral magnetic
effect, proved not long ago.
And use Dirac idea for see quarks.
As we can see they can do at RHIC a strangelet (uds) and
antistrangelet (u~d~s~) but yet N=1.
The cause is ion collision, 200 GeV, per nucleon, leading to HOT quark
gluon plasma.
At LHC there will be proton collision, 3500 GeV per proton. At LHC two
COLD crystals can be created from Dirac’s quark sea.
That is absolutely different state. That is not hot quark gluon
plasma, but cold crystals, torn out of Dirac’s quark sea. Density of
those crystals can be hundred times bigger than the density of nuclear
matter and by hundred millions times more than the density of usual
solid matter.
Sam Wormley
> The Earth will be blown up in one of the next days
Takes a lot of energy to blow up the earth. It ain't gonna
happen!
Uncle Al
>
> On Mar 5, 5:06 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> > Magnetic wrote:
> >
> > > The Earth will be blown up in one of the next days,
> >
> > [snip crap]
> >
> > http://physics.aps.org/articles/v2/104
> > <http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100304/full/news.2010.108.html>
>
> By the way, look my formulae, which were written before this article
> was published:
> That is absolutely different state. That is not hot quark gluon
> plasma, but cold crystals, torn out of Dirac�s quark sea. Density of
> those crystals can be hundred times bigger than the density of nuclear
> matter and by hundred millions times more than the density of usual
> solid matter.
[snip rest of crap]
idiot
Nuclear density is ~2x10^14 g/cm^3. Neutron star density is ~7x10^14
g/cm^3. Ordinary matter tops off at 22 g/cm^3.
(7x10^14 g/cm^3)/)22 g/cm^3) = 3x10^13
magnetic idiot says, "hundred millions times more than the density of
usual solid matter." Fine. We'll spot you a factor of a billion,
10^9. Then your idiot spew is short by at least a factor of
(3x10^13)/(10^9) = 3x10^4
magnetic idiot total higgledy-piggledyness of the Earth "in a few
days" is then total higgledy-piggledyness of the Earth in a few times
3x10^4 days, or a few multiples of 80 years - centuries after the LHC
is decommissioned. Who gives a rat's ass?
Magnetic
> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
Ratio atom/nucleus approximately 1/alfa = 137.036~100^2
Volume ratio = 10^6.
Density ratio nucleus/atom =10^6.
Ratio strange matter / nuclear mater = 100.
Ratio strange matter / atomic matter = 10^8, or hundred millions.
That is all very approximately.
p + p + 2*3.5 TeV= 6000(usd) + 6000(u~s~d~)
Crystal 6000(usd) is extremaly stable and deadly dangerous!
May be tomorrow, it will kill us all.
Raymond Yohros
> CERN special – learn about the Large Hadron Collider, its detectors and
great article
r.y
Uncle Al
> Crystal 6000(usd) is extremaly stable and deadly dangerous!
>
> May be tomorrow, it will kill us all.
idiot
--
Uncle Al
Magnetic
at Tevetron. That follows from the multimuon events (up to 8 per
droplet and antidroplet) described at the end of 2008 by CDF
collaboration.
From the other hand, some authors say that "strange condensate" is
stable if it has more than 10 lambdas, 10(uds).
Look at the figure: http://images.iop.org/objects/phw/news/14/3/7/rhic.jpg
The 8(usd) corresponds to the point Z=0, N=0, S=8;
the 8(usd) corresponds to the point Z=0, N=0, S=-8.
More than 10(usd) is stable!
I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
----------------
more at http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
PD
>
> I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
is nothing dramatic you should do.
You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.
Magnetic
Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
50%, and stop the LHC.
According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.
Look plan-link at the page:
http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/news-2010/LHC-latest-news.html
Best regards, Ivan. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html
Richard Dobson
..
>
> According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
> performed the 30-th of March.
>
I am sure we will all look forward to your next set of predictions on
April 1st!
Richard Dobson
John Tserkezis
>> According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
>> performed the 30-th of March.
> I am sure we will all look forward to your next set of predictions on
> April 1st!
I'm waiting for the black hole to form, subsequently selectively
sucking up all the kooks.
Uncle Al
[snip crap]
> Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
> understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
> 50%, and stop the LHC.
[snip rest of crap]
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v2/104
<http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100304/full/news.2010.108.html>
idiot
PD
> On Mar 10, 7:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 10, 7:11 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>
> > > I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
>
> > This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
> > you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
> > is nothing dramatic you should do.
>
> > You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
> > anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
> > irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.
>
> Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
> understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
> 50%, and stop the LHC.
The problem is, the probability is not that high.
There is always risk in anything that anybody does. It is risky to
walk to the bathroom in the morning. However, the risk is small.
Nobody can assure you that what physicists do is COMPLETELY without
risk. But the risk is very, very, very, very, very small. And you're
going to have to live with that.
>
> According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
> performed the 30-th of March.
Yes, and you're going to see on April 1 that you are still alive. Why
would you live your life in fear, when you can get treatment and have
the fears disappear?
>
> Look plan-link at the page:http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/news-2010/LHC-...
Michael A. Terrell
The kooks already suck. I'm amazed they have time to troll, with all
their sucking.
--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
Tim Wescott
http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com
PD
> Magnetic wrote:
> > On Mar 10, 7:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 10, 7:11 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>
> >>> I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
> >> This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
> >> you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
> >> is nothing dramatic you should do.
>
> >> You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
> >> anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
> >> irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.
>
> > Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
> > understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
> > 50%, and stop the LHC.
>
> > According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
> > performed the 30-th of March.
>
> > Look plan-link at the page:
>
> > Best regards, Ivan. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html
>
> http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
>
Oh now you've done it. Those videos were supposed to be secret.
Sam Wormley
>
> http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
>
CORRECTED LHC Web-cams
http://www.lhc.ac.uk/web-cams.html
Vladimir Vassilevsky
Tim Wescott wrote:
> Magnetic wrote:
>
>>>> I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
>
> http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.
VLV
PD
That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?
Vladimir Vassilevsky
PD wrote:
No new knowledge.
VLV
eric gisse
>
>
> PD wrote:
>
>> On Mar 12, 1:00 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>
>>>>Magnetic wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>I?m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
>>>
>>>>http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
>>>
>>>No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
>>>money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.
>>>
>>>VLV
>>
>>
>> That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
>> fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
>> eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?
>
> No new knowledge.
>
> VLV
How do you know?
[many offtopic newsgroups removed from the troll attempt]
PD
On the contrary, we KNOW the Standard Model of particle interactions
has to break down at the energy scale probed by the LHC. There are
many possibilities here, some of them more likely than others.
Whichever of these outcomes turns out to be right, or if something
else entirely shows itself, we are *guaranteed* a dramatic revision of
our understanding of nature. This is about as sure a bet as you can
have, in terms of new knowledge.
Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle
interactions new knowledge?
Vladimir Vassilevsky
PD wrote:
> On Mar 12, 1:14 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>PD wrote:
>>
>>>On Mar 12, 1:00 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Tim Wescott wrote:
>>
>>>>>Magnetic wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
>>
>>>>>http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
>>
>>>>No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
>>>>money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.
>>
>>>That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
>>>fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
>>>eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?
>>
>>No new knowledge.
>
>
> On the contrary, we KNOW the Standard Model of particle interactions
> has to break down at the energy scale probed by the LHC. There are
> many possibilities here, some of them more likely than others.
> Whichever of these outcomes turns out to be right, or if something
> else entirely shows itself, we are *guaranteed* a dramatic revision of
> our understanding of nature. This is about as sure a bet as you can
> have, in terms of new knowledge.
>
> Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle
> interactions new knowledge?
The results will be inconclusive as usual. There would be offered 10
explanations why, published 10000 papers, and, after passionate
discussions at symposiums, everyone will agree that the LHC design was
wrong and insufficient and yet larger colider has to be built. This time
it must be a break through, we know this for sure, etc. etc.
VLV
PD
What would constitute conclusiveness to you? A final theory? Why?
No one has ever said that the Tevatron design was wrong and
insufficient. It did exactly what it was intended to do, and it also
produced more physics than what was ever anticipated at the time it
was built. Nevertheless, what we learned as a *result* of the Tevatron
pointed us clearly toward the new physics that would have to be found
at the LHC.
Is it your aspiration that one day we would be DONE, having nothing
further to learn, and so nothing more to explore? Why on earth would
you want that?
PD
Vladimir Vassilevsky
PD wrote:
Yea, yea. Pyramids and stonehenges were built in attempt to get better
mutual understanding with gods. The best minds of those days stongly
advised temporal rulers to invest into that; besides, it seemed like
they are accomplishing some result. On the contrary, most if not all
important discoveries were done with very limited resources and without
monstrosity and pomposity. What I am saying is Standard Model got
stuck; there is a need for new ideas.
VLV
Steve Pope
> What I am saying is Standard Model got
> stuck; there is a need for new ideas.
"Surfer Dude Discovers Theory of Everything"
Antony Garrett Lisi, has proposed a theory of particle physics
based on the Lie group E8 (discovered and researched by Wilhelm
Killing and Elie Cartan). Lisi's theory is described as
associating 226 known fundamental particles with 226 of the 248
symmetries of E8, with the balance presumably corresponding to
as-yet-undiscovered particles.
(Googling will provide more information on this theory...)
Steve
PD
As I said, do you have a problem with fundamental research without an
eye to application and think all of that is a waste of time? You said
no new knowledge would come of that.
> The best minds of those days stongly
> advised temporal rulers to invest into that; besides, it seemed like
> they are accomplishing some result. On the contrary, most if not all
> important discoveries were done with very limited resources and without
> monstrosity and pomposity.
And most of the discoveries today are still being done with very
limited resources and a small group of researchers. However, it's also
true that in a few areas, larger investments have made, and it's no
different today than it was back then.
> What I am saying is Standard Model got
> stuck; there is a need for new ideas.
As I told you, those new ideas are precisely in play at the LHC
because we already know the Standard Model breaks at the 1 TeV scale.
You are asking for new ideas to be tested, and the LHC is providing
that for you. Why are you chagrined again?
PD
John Larkin
The energies that they can create are microscopic compared to a
healthy cosmic ray.
CERN : 3.5e12 ev per particle
GOD : 3e20 ev per particle
That last number packs about 50 joules into what is probably *one*
proton.
John
brent
>On the contrary, most if not all
> important discoveries were done with very limited resources and without
> monstrosity and pomposity.
>
> VLV
And also done without peer reviewed science. Funny how the psuedo
science needs peer review. How much peer needed to convince the
masses that the science behind the nuclear bomb was correct?
Raymond Yohros
> > fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
> > eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?
>
> No new knowledge.
>
the knoledge its the standard model!
it has to be verified by observation.
no other cyclotron can reproduce
as close as posible the conditions of the bb
i can agree with you that there are many more
creative ways to proceed when you have
money limitations and that can be directly applied
to engineering even when the results are not
shown on a screen by a detector.
but it will be nice to hear and see them.
regards
r.y
Les Cargill
Long ago in a galaxy far away....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSkyEyBczU
I actually have the Epi Les Paul gold sparkletop based on that Guild.
--
Les Cargill
BURT
the end mankind dies.
I don't believe God would let that happen to any world.
Mitch Raemsch
BURT
> John Tserkezis wrote:
> > On 12/03/2010 8:30 PM, Richard Dobson wrote:
>
> >>> According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
> >>> performed the 30-th of March.
>
> >> April 1st!
>
> > I'm waiting for the black hole to form, subsequently selectively
> > sucking up all the kooks.
>
> Long ago in a galaxy far away....
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSkyEyBczU
>
> I actually have the Epi Les Paul gold sparkletop based on that Guild.
>
> --
> Les Cargill
The standard model is a combination of incomplete theories. How can
them working together address the truth?
Mitch Raemsch
Magnetic
> >> > I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
>
> >> This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
> >> you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
> >> is nothing dramatic you should do.
>
> >> You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
> >> anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
> >> irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.
>
> >Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
> >understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
> >50%, and stop the LHC.
>
> >According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
> >performed the 30-th of March.
>
> >Look plan-link at the page:
>
> >Best regards, Ivan. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html
>
> The energies that they can create are microscopic compared to a
> healthy cosmic ray.
>
> CERN : 3.5e12 ev per particle
>
> GOD : 3e20 ev per particle
>
> That last number packs about 50 joules into what is probably *one*
> proton.
Existence of high energy cosmic rays (protons or ions) does not give
any guarantee that the same particle collisions are safe at head-on
colliders.
Indeed dangerous particle condensate (Condensate) can be created at
both cases.
It is obvious that Condensate has its rest energy and binding energy.
It was proved that total binding energy of Condensate is smaller than
kinetic energy of atmospheric particles in the system of Condensate,
if it was created by collision of cosmic particle with atmospheric
one. Consequently, cosmo-atmospheric Condensate would be ruined
immediately. But collider Condensate will not be ruined and it can
grow, if this growth is permitted by physical laws.
Till now there were theoretically described several types of
Condensates: pion condensate, stranglet, magnetized vacuum, magnetic
vacuum domain, magnetic holes and so on. In fact, the mentioned types
of condensates are different approximations to one and the same
Condensate, which can be created in Nature or in a physical
experiment. These approximations were grounded on different types of
forces. I tried to investigate Condensate, which is connected
presumably by magnetic forces. Now I can see that my results coincide
quite good with the results, received in the investigations of
Condensate, connected by pions (pion condensate, Migdal), gluon
condensate (Savvidy), sea quark-antiquark pairs, strange quarks...
The main conclusion: Condensate can be created at particle collision
with energy of about 1-TeV per particle.
It is clear, at least for me, that microscopic droplet of Condensate
will be created very soon at LHC. This can lead to further rapid
explosion of Earth and extermination of our Civilization. Particle
physicists will not stop their experiments, because the stop of these
high-energy experiments will mean that they do recognize that these
collisions are really dangerous for the whole Earth. The recognition
of the danger will mean that most of particle physicists are already
criminals or global terrorists, - they did not stop their dangerous
experiments despite court cases and disputes, lasting nearly ten
years.
So, dear citizens, be ready to near death. You all will be murdered
soon by criminals, who name themselves as scientists.
David Bernier
[...]
> explosion of Earth and extermination of our Civilization. Particle
> physicists will not stop their experiments, because the stop of these
> high-energy experiments will mean that they do recognize that these
> collisions are really dangerous for the whole Earth. The recognition
> of the danger will mean that most of particle physicists are already
> criminals or global terrorists, - they did not stop their dangerous
> experiments despite court cases and disputes, lasting nearly ten
> years.
In my opinion, calling people "criminal" is a very serious accusation.
I've read the Wikipedia article on /mens rea/ :
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea > .
/Mens rea/ is Latin and translates to "guilty mind".
So it's up to you to come up with some "guilty mind" argument.
I don't see any "intent to destroy the Earth", or anything of the sort.
David Bernier
John Tserkezis
> In my opinion, calling people "criminal" is a very serious accusation.
Perhaps, but it doesn't matter. "Magnetic" is a kook, and hopefully,
as per my original statement, one of the collisions will cause a black
hole to form, sucking in all these kooks. Then they won't matter anymore.
Either that, or it will create a rip in the space-time continuum,
creating a wormhole if you will, between us and some random alien universe.
And in *that* case, I want to welcome our new visitors, and suggest
they start with a small meal after their long journey - of some very
tasty kooks.
Magnetic
David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the Earth",
then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.
You can not give any guarantee that some of these reactions will not
explode the Earth.
b/ Magnetic hole:
Creation:
p + p --> p + p + M;
Grouth
M{n} + p = M{n+1} + e+ + 300 MeV,
M{n+1} + p = M{n+2} + e+ + 300 MeV,
...
...
...
Extremely powerful explosion.
-------------------------
b/ Pure strange matter:
Creation:
p + p --> p + p + N + N~;
Growth:
N(uds) + p = (N+1)(uds) + K+ = (N+1)(uds) + e+ + 500 MeV.
(N+1)(uds) + n = (N+2)(uds) + K0 = (N+2)(uds) + 500 MeV.
...
...
...
Extremely powerful explosion.
------------------------
b/ Mixed strange matter.
Several combinations from equal\proportional numbers of neutrons and
hyperons.
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Probability of Earth Explosion is extremely high.
I would kill your Rolf Heuer today, but he is very far from me.
I don’t want that you and your criminal physicists kill me and my
relatives.
I repeat: “David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the
Earth", then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.”
Vladimir Vassilevsky
Magnetic wrote:
>
> Probability of Earth Explosion is extremely high.
>
> I would kill your Rolf Heuer today, but he is very far from me.
>
> I don’t want that you and your criminal physicists kill me and my
> relatives.
>
> I repeat: “David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the
> Earth", then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Stop_Worrying_and_Start_Living
BTW, I am tempted to write a book "How to stop being an idiot and start
living"
VLV
Michael A. Terrell
When nothing happens, he will be blaming them for all the runaway
Toyotas.
Michael A. Terrell
Make sure you read it when you're done.
John Fields
<magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>So, dear citizens, be ready to near death. You all will be murdered
>soon by criminals, who name themselves as scientists.
---
And when it doesn't come to pass what will you do?
JF
John Fields
<magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>Probability of Earth Explosion is extremely high.
>
>I would kill your Rolf Heuer today, but he is very far from me.
>
>I don’t want that you and your criminal physicists kill me and my
>relatives.
>
>I repeat: “David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the
>Earth", then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.”
---
I'd say that your admitted desire and willingness to kill those who are
attempting to advance the worlds store of knowledge speaks volumes about
who is a psychopath, a criminal, and an idiot.
JF
John Fields
---
An autobiography, no doubt?
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Sorry, just couldn't resist! :-)
JF
Vladimir Vassilevsky
John Fields wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:21:40 -0600, Vladimir Vassilevsky
> <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Magnetic wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Probability of Earth Explosion is extremely high.
>>>
>>>I would kill your Rolf Heuer today, but he is very far from me.
>>>
>>>I don’t want that you and your criminal physicists kill me and my
>>>relatives.
>>>
>>>I repeat: “David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the
>>>Earth", then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.”
>>
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Stop_Worrying_and_Start_Living
>>
>>BTW, I am tempted to write a book "How to stop being an idiot and start
>>living"
>
>
> ---
> An autobiography, no doubt?
No. A plan for future :-)
VLV
Raymond Yohros
> > Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle
> > interactions new knowledge?
>
> The results will be inconclusive as usual. There would be offered 10
> explanations why, published 10000 papers, and, after passionate
> discussions at symposiums, everyone will agree that the LHC design was
> wrong and insufficient and yet larger colider has to be built. This time
> it must be a break through, we know this for sure, etc. etc.
>
i dont believe in "Bigger Is Better"
but ONLY in the case of cyclotrons. im sure the lhc is in
BB territory. there is NO need to ever go bigger
than this.
if there is, then the whole approach
we know of particle physics reaserch is going
through a dead end and the only way
out its with a new approach.
r.y
Sam Wormley
> im sure the lhc is in
> BB territory. there is NO need to ever go bigger
> than this.
The LHC temps are many orders of magnitude below those
of the very early universe. Even cosmic rays are 6-12
orders of magnitude greater than the LHC.
BillyGates
> On Mar 10, 7:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 10, 7:11 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
>> you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize
>> there is nothing dramatic you should do.
>>
>> You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
>> anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your
>> fears irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.
>
> Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
> understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
> 50%, and stop the LHC.
What your saying is that you have a 50% chance to be wrong... so when you
are you can use the power of probability to validate your claim and still be
right?
Raymond Yohros
just like thunder is as hot as the surface
of the sun, if you where to compare the highest temps
on the lhc with the lowest temps stages of the bb
how much will the diference be?
remember that in the lhc its only for
a fraction of a second.
r.y
Magnetic
particles, is analogues to behavior of another condensate – nucleus,
consisting of protons and antiprotons. Let’s suppose that atmosphere
consists of protons and stable neutrons.
It is theoretically permitted that in the collision of cosmic proton
and atmospheric proton, some number (n) of pairs of nuclei and
antinuclei were created. Let the nucleus is Hg; the antinucleus is
Hg~.
Answer the questions, if you are a physicist, on the following
questions:
1. What is the minimal energy of cosmic proton in order to make a
reaction:
p+p+?TeV= n(Hg+Hg~).
2. What is the kinetic energy of protons of atmosphere relatively
these “cosmo-atmospheric” Hg packs of nuclei and antinueclei?
3. What will happen to nuclei? Will they grow or will be ruined?
And the same questions for the same reaction on collider.
Are consequences for condensates, created at “cosmo-atmospheric”
collision, analogues to that, which were made on the collider?
Dangerous condensates:
1/ Magnetic hole.
Creation:
p + p + ? TeV = p + p + M_{n}
Growth:
M_{n} + p = M_{n+1} + e^{+} + 300 MeV,
M_{n+1} + p = M_{n+2} + e^{+} + 300 MeV,
…
Explosion of Earth.
…
2/ Pure strange matter.
Creation:
p + p + ?TeV = p + p + N(uds) + N(u~d~s~)
Growth:
N(uds) + p = (N+1)(uds) + K^{+} = (N+1)(uds) + e^{+} + 500 MeV.
(N+1)(uds) + n = (N+2)(uds) + K^{0} = (N+2)(uds) + 500 MeV.
…
Explosion of Earth.
…
3/ Mixed subnuclear condensates.
…
Explosion of Earth.
…
Sam Wormley
> just like thunder is as hot as the surface
> of the sun, if you where to compare the highest temps
> on the lhc with the lowest temps stages of the bb
> how much will the diference be?
>
Thunder (sound) doesn't exhibit much of a temperature increase
in and of itself. The energy of an average 3 mile-long lightning
strike is one billion to ten billion joules--6.24 x 10^16 TeV, but
spread out over much greater time and space as compared to a 7 TeV
proton-proton collision.
Magnetic
Blaizot, J. Iliopoulos, J. Madsen, G.G. Ross, P. Sonderegger, H.-J.
Specht. 2008 John Ellis, Gian Giudice, Michelangelo Mangano, Igor
Tkachev, and Urs Wiedemann. And of course, Rolf Heuer, director of
CERN, who neglects the opinion of physicists, saying about dangers of
LHC.
The crudest error, made by them, is equating of the consequences of
collider collisions with cosmo-atmospheric collisions. To see the
difference between these consequences look my model with two 10-kg
bottles with neutrons. You will see that the bottle, corresponding to
cosmic rays, will be safe. But the bottle, corresponding to LHC
collisions, will transform the town into Hiroshima.
Here are some CERN addresses. Write them and demand to stop the
Collider. Otherwise they kill us all with probability about several
dozens of percents.
rolf.heuer(at)cern.ch, cern.reception(at)cern.ch,
visits.service(at)cern.ch, press.office(at)cern.ch,
john.ellis(at)cern.ch, jean-pierre.koutchouk(at)cern.ch
rudiger.voss(at)cern.ch, patricia.mage(at)cern.ch,
felicitas.pauss(at)cern.ch, external.relations(at)cern.ch, council-
president(at)cern.ch, fc-chairman(at)cern.ch, spc-chairman(at)cern.ch,
scientific-secretary(at)cern.ch, council-secretariat(at)cern.ch
Here are some phones of your potential killers:
CERN CH-1211 Genève 23 Switzerland. +41 22 76 761 11
Organisation Européenne pour la Recherche Nucléaire F-01631 CERN Cedex
France Telephone Switchboard: +41 22 76 761 11 Central Fax: +41 22 76
765 55
Visitors Reception. Telephone number:+41 22 76 766 49
Visits Service. Telephone number: +41 22 767 8484, Fax: +41 22 767
8710
Press Office. Telephone number: 41 22 767 3432 / 2141 Fax: +41 22 785
0247
Stop global suicide!
Sam Wormley
You are obviously bluffing, otherwise you would be in Geneva!
Magnetic
Ashton K
Look, we're doomed. We've always been doomed. Shall we count all the
things which can kill us?
*Asteroids (happened before)
*Super volcanoes (ditto)
*Nuclear conflict
*Biological Conflict
*Chemical Conflict (yay variety!)
*Death of the sun
*Comet strike
*Nano bots out of a bad sci-fi book.
*Plague (designer or natural)
*Vogons
*.... and fuck it, Global Warming for good measure.
See now, if I'm gonna die, I'd rather kick it in the name of science,
and trying to improve man's knowledge of the universe. Sure beats
dying in the name of some empty ism during a Nuclear, Biological, or
Chemical shoot out. Also better than being clocked by a rock from space.
Besides, think of the view!
--Ashton
Magnetic
> things which can kill us?
No. I’ll write probability of total extermination in the period of
future month.
> *Asteroids (happened before)
0. 000 000 000 001
> *Super volcanoes (ditto)
0. 000 000 000 1
> *Nuclear conflict
0. 000 000 001
> *Biological Conflict
0. 000 000 001
> *Chemical Conflict (yay variety!)
0. 000 000 0001
> *Death of the sun
0. 000 000 000 000 000 1
> *Comet strike
0. 000 000 000 001
> *Nano bots out of a bad sci-fi book.
0. 000 000 000 001
> *Plague (designer or natural)
Inside 0. 000 000 001
> *Vogons
Do not know, what is it.
> *.... and fuck it, Global Warming for good measure.
0. 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 1
CERNs Experiment on Cllider
0.49 – the whole Earth will be exploded.
0.01 – only Europe will be ruined; earthquake all over the Earth;
atmosphere is overheated.
0.01 – only Geneva will be ruined.
--------------
Here is not complete list of your potential killers: 2003 J.-P.
Blaizot, J. Iliopoulos, J. Madsen, G.G. Ross, P. Sonderegger, H.-J.
Specht. 2008 John Ellis, Gian Giudice, Michelangelo Mangano, Igor
Tkachev, and Urs Wiedemann. And of course, Rolf Heuer, director of
CERN, who neglects the opinion of physicists, saying about dangers of
LHC.
Here are some CERN addresses. Write them and demand to stop the
Richard Dobson
..
>
> CERNs Experiment on Cllider
> 0.49 – the whole Earth will be exploded.
> 0.01 – only Europe will be ruined; earthquake all over the Earth;
> atmosphere is overheated.
> 0.01 – only Geneva will be ruined.
>
What a way to go! Worth moving to Geneva specially. In the meantime
while I am waiting for TEOTW, I hear that busking there can earn a lot
of money with which to splash out on all those "last" meals.
On the other hand, given the Mayans defined TEOTW as 21/12/2012, and
~everyone~ believes the Mayans, we have quite a bit of time to play
with. Use it wisely!
Richard Dobson
Uncle Al
>
> Look, we're doomed. We've always been doomed. Shall we count all the
> things which can kill us?
Enviro-whinerism
Social activism
Compassion
Religion
Government
Unbridled reproduction
Professional management
Toyota drive-by-wire.
> *Asteroids (happened before)
> *Super volcanoes (ditto)
> *Nuclear conflict
> *Biological Conflict
> *Chemical Conflict (yay variety!)
> *Death of the sun
> *Comet strike
> *Nano bots out of a bad sci-fi book.
> *Plague (designer or natural)
> *Vogons
> *.... and fuck it, Global Warming for good measure.
Only through good harvest years then overpopulation. Canada is behind
it all. Canukistanis think that if Canada became Southern California
their healthcare system would work. The fools!
> See now, if I'm gonna die, I'd rather kick it in the name of science,
> and trying to improve man's knowledge of the universe. Sure beats
> dying in the name of some empty ism during a Nuclear, Biological, or
> Chemical shoot out. Also better than being clocked by a rock from space.
>
> Besides, think of the view!
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/drsteel3.jpg
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
HardySpicer
> PD wrote:
> > On Mar 12, 1:14 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >>PD wrote:
>
> >>>On Mar 12, 1:00 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>Tim Wescott wrote:
>
> >>>>>Magnetic wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
>
>
> >>>>No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
> >>>>money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.
>
> >>>That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
> >>>fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
> >>>eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?
>
> >>No new knowledge.
>
> > On the contrary, we KNOW the Standard Model of particle interactions
> > has to break down at the energy scale probed by the LHC. There are
> > many possibilities here, some of them more likely than others.
> > Whichever of these outcomes turns out to be right, or if something
> > else entirely shows itself, we are *guaranteed* a dramatic revision of
> > our understanding of nature. This is about as sure a bet as you can
> > have, in terms of new knowledge.
>
> > Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle
> > interactions new knowledge?
>
> The results will be inconclusive as usual. There would be offered 10
> explanations why, published 10000 papers, and, after passionate
> discussions at symposiums, everyone will agree that the LHC design was
> wrong and insufficient and yet larger colider has to be built. This time
> it must be a break through, we know this for sure, etc. etc.
>
next time it must be the size of the earth itself!
HardySpicer
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:02:28 -0800 (PST), Magnetic
>
> >> > I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
>
> >> you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
> >> is nothing dramatic you should do.
>
> >> You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
> >> anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
> >> irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.
>
> >Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
> >understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
> >50%, and stop the LHC.
>
> >performed the 30-th of March.
>
> >Look plan-link at the page:
> >http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/news-2010/LHC-...
>
> >Best regards, Ivan. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html
>
> The energies that they can create are microscopic compared to a
> healthy cosmic ray.
>
> CERN : 3.5e12 ev per particle
>
> GOD : 3e20 ev per particle
>
> That last number packs about 50 joules into what is probably *one*
> proton.
>
Good, so they are half way there!
eric gisse
>> Look, we're doomed. We've always been doomed. Shall we count all the
>> things which can kill us?
>
> No. I?ll write probability of total extermination in the period of
> future month.
Be sure to compute the probability that you are correct.
[...]
John Fields
<magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>The crudest error, made by them, is equating of the consequences of
>collider collisions with cosmo-atmospheric collisions. To see the
>difference between these consequences look my model with two 10-kg
>bottles with neutrons. You will see that the bottle, corresponding to
>cosmic rays, will be safe. But the bottle, corresponding to LHC
>collisions, will transform the town into Hiroshima.
---
Pity, then everyone will have to learn Japanese...
JF
John Larkin
Is it dark inside of a black hole? Or is it very, very bright? I can
never seem to remember.
John
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
I've seen the movie. Don't worry, the beast dies and everything turns out OK.
John Fields
---
If even light can't escape the event horizon, I think you have your
answer.
JF
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
But *inside* the event horizon? I think the answer is that it's a stupid
question. ;-)
Magnetic
16 TU MAN 24 nQPS re-parameterization part 2/TECHNICAL STOP
17 WE M 8 RECOVERY++
17 WE A 8 RECOVERY++
17 WE N 8 3.5 TeV ramp commissioning
18 THU M 8 3.5 TeV ramp commissioning
18 THU A 8 3.5 TeV ramp commissioning
18 THU N 8 2 beam, setup, 4 bunch checks - extraction checks,
collimators locked in position and gaps, beam dump, MPS tests
19 FRI M 8 450 GeV collisions
19 FRI A 8 450 GeV collisions
19 FRI N 8 450 GeV collisions
20 SA
20 SA
20 SA
21 SU M 8 MPS and beam dumping system - extracted pilot, b1: 0.45 -
3.5 TeV
21 SU A 8 Protection device and collimator setting-up - b1 ramp
21 SU N 8 SF
22 MO M 8 MPS and beam dumping system - extracted pilot, b2: 0.45- 3.5
TeV
22 MO A 8 Protection device and collimator setting-up - b2 ramp
22 MO N 8 SF
23 TU M 8 MPS and beam dumping system - extracted pilot, b1: 0.45 -
3.5 TeV
23 TU A 8 SF
23 TU N 8 Protection device and collimator setting-up - ramp
24 WE M 8 MPS and beam dumping system - extracted pilot: 0.45- 3.5 TeV
24 WE A 8
24 WE N 8 SF
25 TH M 8 Measurements at 3.5 TeV
25 TH A 8 MPS and beam dumping system - extracted pilot, - 3.5 TeV
25 TH N 8 SF
25 FR M 8 Measurements at 3.5 TeV
25 FR A 8 MPS and beam dumping system - extracted pilot, - 3.5 TeV
25 SA N 8 SF
26 SA M 8 Protection device and collimator setting-up - 3.5 TeV, b1
27 SA A 8 Protection device and collimator setting-up - 3.5TeV, b2
27 SU N 8 SF
28 SU M 8 Two Beam Operation setting-up - 3.5 TeV
28 SU A 8 Two Beam Operation setting-up - 3.5 TeV
MO SF
MO 3.5 TeV collision setting-up
MO 3.5 TeV collision setting-up
30 TU M 8 FIRST COLLISIONS AT 3.5 TeV (TBC)
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The most probable day of creation of Dangerous Dead Droplet is the 30-
th of March.
The most probable day of Earth Explosion is the 1-st of April.
--------------
Jasen Betts
I don't thint the concept of illumination makes sense in a singularity.
--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
alie...@gmail.com
(snip)
(by the way, turned off killfile on recommendation)
> The most probable day of creation of Dangerous Dead Droplet is the 30-
> th of March.
> The most probable day of Earth Explosion is the 1-st of April.
All that insane please-call-Al-Qaeda lead-in for THAT‽
You're fired.
Mark L. Fergerson
eric gisse
[...]
> The most probable day of creation of Dangerous Dead Droplet is the 30-
> th of March.
> The most probable day of Earth Explosion is the 1-st of April.
> --------------
>
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
Somehow I think Earth will fade it a few more times.
I can't wait to see what your already paranoid-schitzophrenic argument turns
into come May or June.
Martin Brown
No. Light and matter can enter the black hole but can never leave
(quantum Hawking radiation excepted). A bit like the Hotel California.
You don't notice anything special when you cross the event horizon of a
black hole provided that it is big enough. You can still see stars
distorted and red or blue shifted depending on direction but you can
never break free again. In finite time on your clock you will hit the
singularity.
Light cannot escape from inside the event horizon, but external light
can still fall in and then spiral around until it hits something or
reaches the singularity at the centre. There are no stable orbits inside
the event horizon so once inside you are truly doomed.
For small black holes spagettification by tidal forces will be rather
unpleasant and happen long before you reach the event horizon.
Tidal forces scale as 1/R^3 so for R big enough you don't get pulled
apart until after you enter. The really big galactic black holes of 10^4
solar masses or bigger you might be able to go inside the horizon
without coming to immediate harm provided it wasn't actively accreting
matter at the time. Real black holes tend to have some angular momentum
as well so the exact radii of last stable orbit can vary due to frame
dragging.
You might find the following "falling into a black hole" simulation
interesting (Schwarzchild metric). The movies are a bit dated now.
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/singularity.html
Regards,
Martin Brown
Uncle Al
[snip crap]
> The most probable day of creation of Dangerous Dead Droplet is the 30-
> th of March.
> The most probable day of Earth Explosion is the 1-st of April.
1) What wll you shit in public on 02 April?
2)
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v2/104
<http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100304/full/news.2010.108.html>
http://arxiv/abs/1003.2030
3) idiot
Sam Wormley
> The most probable day of creation of Dangerous Dead Droplet is the 30-
> th of March.
> The most probable day of Earth Explosion is the 1-st of April.
Well that's certain death.... for your theories.
bert
Sam No dooms day with the Cern LHC I relate it to NASA shuttles
going round and round. Maybe toCern NASA will give one of those
$25,000,000 toilets Sounds like a plan TreBert
gil_johnson
> On 2010-03-15, John Larkin <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:02:04 +0000 (UTC), Ashton K
> ><ash...@ashtonk.ath.cx> wrote:
> > Is it dark inside of a black hole? Or is it very, very bright? I can
> > never seem to remember.
>
> I don't thint the concept of illumination makes sense in a singularity.
>
Compared to this thread, it does.
Gil
gil_johnson
> The most probable day of creation of Dangerous Dead Droplet is the 30-
> th of March.
> The most probable day of Earth Explosion is the 1-st of April.
>
Ahh, noooo - please don't tell me this has been one long April Fools
joke.
Gil
Magnetic
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.
Hawking formula for temperature of black hole
T = (hbar c^3) / (8 pi k G M)
can easily be transformed to
T = (hbar g) / (2 pi k c).
Compare it with Unruh formula for the temperature of accelerated rod
T = (hbar a) / (2 pi k c).
If you use the Bell paradox for rods of different length you will come
to conclusion that
T=T(r).
Using
mc^2=hbar c / R_c
one can receive the temperature at the depth R_c:
T = m g R_c / (2 pi k).
Or at the any depth R, if g=const:
T = m g R / (2 pi k).
Or in differential form:
dT/dR = m g /(2 pi k).
Changing the depth R by the distance from the center of gravitating
object, r:
dT/dr = -m g /(2 pi k).
This is a formula of gravitational gradient of temperature! It was
received in the analogues form by Loschmidt and after by Tsiolkovsky
and by … and by me in the form:
dT/dr = -(2/5) m g / k.
This temperature gradient does not lead to thermal exchange. This
temperature gradient is quite good proved by the experimental
observations.
So, there is no any process of BH evaporation. Hawking formula
describes the luminosity of usual stars.
The most dangerous objects are not black holes, but magnetic holes or
condensates of strange matter.
The amount of dark matter in the Galaxy is 6 times bigger than the
usual barionic matter. Contact of microscopic droplet of dark matter
with ordinary matter will transform the Solar system into a cosmic
corpse.
I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.
More details with figures are here:
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html
PD
> I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
> weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
> 2*3.5 TeV.
Your probability calculations are obviously, demonstrably wrong. You
gave a 75% probability two months ago that we'd all be dead weeks ago.
Now you say there is a 50% probability that we will be dead in two
more weeks. Do you understand that those two numbers are completely
inconsistent? Do you understand that because those two numbers are
completely inconsistent, this immediately tells everyone that your
probability calculations are wrong? Do you understand that because
your probability calculations have been shown to be wrong, then NO ONE
WILL PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU SAY???
Sam Wormley
> Maybe toCern NASA will give one of those
> $25,000,000 toilets Sounds like a plan TreBert
What is unique about those ISS toilets, in your opinion, Herb?
Magnetic
of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.
creation.
The 1-st of April is the most probable day of our total start to
stars.
Sam Wormley
Your statistical track record should be telling you something!
Steve Pope
> I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in
> a couple of weeks.
But under a multiverse hypothesis, we would never know it did.
70% of physicists believe in some version of multiverse theory.
Steve
Richard Tobin
Magnetic <magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple
>of weeks
... again.
-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.
PD
> In article <02d4e730-8c9d-4f21-9f73-ce777ae71...@g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
> >I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple
> >of weeks
>
> ... again.
He is looking for reassurances that the coin he is tossing has no
tails side. He lives in fear of the coin coming up tails, and he wants
either the coin to be two-headed or to take the coin out of someone
else's hand.
Magnetic
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I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.
The 30-th of March is the most probable day of Dangerous Droplet
creation.
The 1-st of April is the most probable day of our total start to
stars.
Richard Dobson
.
>
> I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
> weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
> 2*3.5 TeV.
> The 30-th of March is the most probable day of Dangerous Droplet
> creation.
> The 1-st of April is the most probable day of our total start to
> stars.
>
OK, let's cut to the chase here: this is a question of odds - let's say,
2 to 1. How about this - a wager? Demonstrate in hard cash the strength
of your conviction. Sadly I have no money at all, but if I did it would
run as follows: if the world does blow up, I would endeavor to send you
$500. If it does not, you undertake to send me $1000. Or £1000,
whichever is the greater. Do you think that would be a good bet from
your point of view? Ladbroke's, or any similarly gargantuan bookie, may
offer even better odds "against". If the world does blow up, they would
send you a ~lot~ of money; but if it doesn't, you must be prepared to
send the same doubled, so I can celebrate the non-end-of-the-world with
as many people as possible. You can pay me via PayPal.
Let's nominate April 1st as "World Survival Day" and have a global party!
Richard Dobson
John Fields
<magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
>weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
>2*3.5 TeV.
>The 30-th of March is the most probable day of Dangerous Droplet
>creation.
>The 1-st of April is the most probable day of our total start to
>stars.
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How about taking bets?
You could make a fortune if you were right!!!
Oh, but wait...
JF
Sam Wormley
>
> I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
> weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
> 2*3.5 TeV.
> The 30-th of March is the most probable day of Dangerous Droplet
> creation.
> The 1-st of April is the most probable day of our total start to
> stars.
>
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
Now you have something with a real probability to worry about! Body
heat may draw particles into breathing range!
Computer simulations suggest thermal plumes may trap microbes, pollen
and dust near a person’s head.
Francis Burton
Steve Pope <spo...@speedymail.org> wrote:
>> I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in
>> a couple of weeks.
>
>But under a multiverse hypothesis, we would never know it did.
>70% of physicists believe in some version of multiverse theory.
At least in this universe. In another, it's only 20%.
Francis
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
Can I have a piece of your action, John?
>Oh, but wait...
Ssshhh! He'll never figure it out.
Magnetic
collisions of protons with the energy 3.5 TeV per proton (7 TeV per
collision).
I give about 50% that the dangerous microscopic object will be
created. It will grow, ruining the ordinary matter, and can ruin our
planet or a part of it.
Here is my crude estimation of probable outcomes:
1. Explosion of the whole Earth – 49%.
2. Extermination of Geneva – 1%.
3. Extermination of Europe – 1%.
4. Other harmful unpredictable consequences – 5%.
5. Discovery of new subnuclear energy sources – 5%.
6. Outcomes with no harm and no use – the rest.
At the point 1 we all will die.
At the points 2, 3, 4 a part of humanity will be killed. Destruction
of a part of the Earth will be followed by huge Earthquake all over
the Earth. To raise the probability of survival it is necessary to be
at the free air with the stalk of water, food and warm clothes.
The most probable microscopic dangerous objects are:
1. Microscopic magnetic hole.
2. Growing nucleus, consisting from strange nucleons and/or neutrons
(uds, uss, udd).
3. Microscopic black hole.
According to ideas of Kaluza, Klein and Einstein about additional
short spatial dimension and unification of gravitational and
electromagnetic forces, we can conclude that black holes, at least at
microscopic levels, can be reduced to objects of the first or the
second types. That means that microscopic black hole is in fact a
condensate, consisting from bosons, as magnetic hole, or from
fermions, as strange matter. Condensates have a binding energy per
their constituent elements. This changes the argumentation about
survival and penetrating abilities of black holes, created in cosmic
and collider proton-proton collisions...
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My health is already ruined by depression. I know that we all can be
killed. I can not save myself, my family, my land. Criminal stupidity
of corrupted contemporary science had won.
Sam Wormley
> My health is already ruined by depression. I know that we all can be
> killed. I can not save myself, my family, my land. Criminal stupidity
> of corrupted contemporary science had won.
Can you hear my tiny violin?
Magnetic
You are idiots.
Try to mention me, when a ceiling will drop on you and will smash you
in a thin film.
I want to be erroneous, but there are so many additional arguments,
that the catastrophe seems to be inevitable.
Best wishes.
Ivan Gorelik.
Sam Wormley
Raymond Yohros
can you hear mine?
what an incredible instrument.
you are not a string master until
you play the violin.
r.y
Magnetic
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/29/7_tev_lhc_forerunner/
Tinfoil Condition Red! LHC 7 TeV mega-blasts tomorrow
'Dr Dark Energy': Only 49% chance of Earth explodin......++++++++++++++
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Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.
Depression is not your only psychiatric malady.