THERE IS A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE
Alexander Abian
Inspite of the current laws of Physics, I say that there is a Perpetual
Motion Machine. Indeed,
THE ENTIRE COSMOS IS A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE
Alexandee Abian
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ABIAN TIME-MASS EQUIVALENCE FORMULA T = A m^2 in Abian units.
ALTER EARTH'S ORBIT AND TILT TO STOP GLOBAL DISASTERS AND EPIDEMICS.
JOLT THE MOON TO JOLT THE EARTH INTO A SANER ORBIT.ALTER THE SOLAR SYSTEM.
REORBIT VENUS INTO A NEAR EARTH-LIKE ORBIT TO CREATE A BORN AGAIN EARTH(1990)
THERE WAS A BIG SUCK AND DILUTION OF PRIMEVAL MASS INTO THE VOID OF SPACE
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>From: ab...@iastate.edu (Alexander Abian)
>Date: Tue, 13 July 1999 12:48 PM EDT
>Message-id: <7mfql0$pnu$1...@news.iastate.edu>
>
>----------
>
>Inspite of the current laws of Physics, I say that there is a Perpetual
>Motion Machine. Indeed,
>
> THE ENTIRE COSMOS IS A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE
Forever is a very long time. No one really knows what happens over very long
periods of time. For all we know, the cosmos will simply cease to exist. Who
knows?
Richard Alexander
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Uncle Al
>
> ----------
>
> Inspite of the current laws of Physics, I say that there is a Perpetual
> Motion Machine. Indeed,
>
> THE ENTIRE COSMOS IS A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE
>
Nobody can accuse the man of being either stupid or insensate on a small
scale. Now, on a large scale... tilt.
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: Inspite of the current laws of Physics, I say that there is a Perpetual
: Motion Machine. Indeed,
: THE ENTIRE COSMOS IS A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE
: Alexandee Abian
Missuse of the second law. It applies on the parts of the Universe, so far
we can tell. But, we cannot apply it on the whole Universe, it would be
meaningless. In other words, when you say 'perpetuum mobile' (or second
law) you are saying 'a part of the Universe'.
V. D.
Jim Batka
Uncle Al wrote:
> Alexander Abian wrote:
> >
> > ----------
> >
> > Inspite of the current laws of Physics, I say that there is a Perpetual
> > Motion Machine. Indeed,
> >
> > THE ENTIRE COSMOS IS A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE
> >
> > Alexandee Abian
>
> Nobody can accuse the man of being either stupid or insensate on a small
> scale. Now, on a large scale... tilt.
Interesting...
My universe is the opposite of a perpetual motion machine.
THE ENTIRE COSMOS IS A PERPETUAL STILLNESS MACHINE
Although many objects MOVE from time to time, they ALWAYS
return to their NATURAL state of STILLNESS. This PROVES
my theory and there's NOTHING you can do about it and nothing
you SAY will change my opinion.. If you complain to ME, I'll just
spam this newsgroup and every other newsgroup that you happen to
READ every other day.
Mwa Ha ha!
On a serial note:
Thermodynamically you could define any system which decreased
entropy as a perpetual motion machine. Since thermodynamics does
not exclude the reduction of entropy in a system as long as the over
all entropy increases, the only system that thermodynamics excludes
from the set of possible perpetual motion machines is the UNIVERSE!
NOTE: My .sig is especially appropriate for this thread. So read it
or else!
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Bob May
it could be considered perpetual in your view but not necessarily in mine.
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Dainty China Girl Blue
8] entropy as a perpetual motion machine. Since thermodynamics does
8] not exclude the reduction of entropy in a system as long as the over
8] all entropy increases, the only system that thermodynamics excludes
8] from the set of possible perpetual motion machines is the UNIVERSE!
I hate to break this to you, but thermodynamics is statistical law.
There's a nonvanishing possibility that entropy in a closed system can
decrease.
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Alexander Abian wrote:
>
> ----------
>
> Inspite of the current laws of Physics, I say that there is a Perpetual
> Motion Machine. Indeed,
>
> THE ENTIRE COSMOS IS A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE
>
But the current laws of physics do allow for perpetual motion. See the
details at http://www.bit.net.au/~bosmin/note1.htm The summary reads:
A corollary to these thoughts is that our Universe is neither expanding
nor contracting, but has reached a steady state. Matter is cycling
through the system as shown, and we do not know how many times it has
returned. We only know that one cycle takes about 15b years, and a "Big
Bang" is not required to start a cycle.
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Taesoo Shin
Why don't you read the invention ? Do you really want to know
whether there is
"a kind of perpetual mobile " or not ? Please read the
contents of the invention .
I am anxious to know whether anyone in the world can deny the
invention or not .
The annexes indicate the contents of the invention .
Alexander Abian <ab...@iastate.edu>이(가) 아래 메시지를
news:7mfql0$pnu$1...@news.iastate.edu에 게시하였습니다.
> ----------
>
> Inspite of the current laws of Physics, I say that there is a Perpetual
> Motion Machine. Indeed,
>
> THE ENTIRE COSMOS IS A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE
>
Peter R Newman
> [snip]
Uncle Al! You're back! Where have you been?
Tom Roberts
> thermodynamics is statistical law.
> There's a nonvanishing possibility that entropy in a closed system can
> decrease.
Yes, indeed. But this is also related to the scale. The probability of
entropy decrease will decrease for larger systems. For macroscopic
systems it becomes vanishingly small. If you consider electrons to be
in motion, then an isolated atom seems to be a perpetual motion machine
(at least when analyzed using non-rel QM). And isolated molecules seem
to be too. But significantly-larger systems are not, when viewed over a
sufficiently-long time period.
Note that considering electrons in an isolated atom to be in motion is
questionable at best....
Perhaps a better definition of a perpetual motion machine is
that energy is perpetually transferred between its components,
rather than that something is in motion. QM affects classical
concepts in important ways....
Tom Roberts tjro...@lucent.com
Uncle Al
>
> Uncle Al wrote:
> > [snip]
>
> Uncle Al! You're back! Where have you been?
Canada, earning a high risk R&D living away from the EPA and the War on
Drugs. Original thought is a horrible vice.
Our Roach Repellent patent was granted in January after 3 years of
fighting the USPTO. We are currently negotiating its license into air
fresheners. One tiny tab de-roached Hispanic butchershops in LA and
Tokyo apartments for six months. Goodbye roaches - and humanely so!
I've done a little update on my Casimatter proposal - use of a 60:40
MgF2/LiF alloy as the transparent dielectric spacer (to match linear
coefficient of thermal expansion of the aluminum) and 70 nm aluminum
(tuned to 120 nm, conservative) to exclude ZPF from 35% of the mass of
the 600 stacked etalons (total self-supporting thickness of a human
hair). In addition to Dr. Faller's freefall laser interferometer
gravimeter another interesting test would be an Eotvos balance.
Who would fund such a thing? Nobody. Suppose it didn't work? (And how
embarassing for the Equivalence Principle if it did.)
Outrageous On-line Uncle Al was hit by the Federal Communications
Commission in January at Netcompoop - though they had no luck shutting
down England and Australia. Hit again in February re Earthlink. I have
multiple supporters lined up across the planet - piss on Washington. I
suppose I will one day get mellow and go into something politically safe
like pornography, drug running, child pronography, or White Supremacy.
Government HATES the direct threat of satire. Like any good church, it
burns witches. Uncle Al, crispy critter.
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Xaonon
>
>Why don't you read the invention ? Do you really want to know
>whether there is
>
>"a kind of perpetual mobile " or not ? Please read the
>contents of the invention .
>
>I am anxious to know whether anyone in the world can deny the
>invention or not .
Warning to all mentioned: don't even try. We've denied it many times, and
it somehow didn't get through. Just leave this one alone.
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Earle Jones
(Xaonon) wrote:
>>To ; Beatty, May, Danamic ,China girl and Batka .
>>
>>Why don't you read the invention ? Do you really want to know
>>whether there is
>>
>>"a kind of perpetual mobile " or not ?
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In article <#N4K6GHz#GA....@nih2naaf.prod2.compuserve.com>, "Jim Deutch"
<10313...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>Good. Not enough space characters, though.
>
>Jim Deutch
>Swingless Things Are Meaningless
>
>Frederic wrote in message <7m9msr$2j7$1...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>...
>>If you would like to announce "The declaration of a new
>>perpetual mobile in the near future" then you should do
>>so. Please announce such a device. Who can say
>>otherwise?
[...]
--
Of course, perpetual motion machines are impossible -- well, almost.
I only know of one that really works:
It looks like a little ferris wheel, that is, a circular framework free to
rotate about a central hub. We attach little "sixes" to one side and then
rotate the wheel and attach a few more "sixes". Then rotate a bit more
and attach a few more "sixes". As we do this, we note that the wheel
begins to turn by itself, and continues to rotate, without any added
energy. Amazing!
The principle of operation is simple: each "six" becomes a "nine", when
it gets around to the other side of the wheel. There will always be a
number of "nines" on one side and "sixes" on the other side. Nine being
larger than six, the wheel will continue to move.
earle
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Taesoo Shin
I did'nt see any one . Without reasons ?
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> >To ; Beatty, May, Danamic ,China girl and Batka .
> >
> >Why don't you read the invention ? Do you really want to
know
> >whether there is
> >
Xaonon
>
>I did'nt see any one . Without reasons ?
We gave you reasons. You just didn't listen. It's really very
simple: thermodynamics does not permit the existance of
any sort of perpetual motion machine. No matter how one
argues that such a machine exists, it still doesn't. Deal with
it.
Bernhard Kuemel
Perpetual motion like in solar systems due to gravity or brownian motion
in closed systems is nothing spectacular. It's about as fascinating as
saying "When it rains the streets are getting wet." No need to shout that
to x newsgroups, including alt.sci.physics.new-theories - wouww, what a
great new theory.
Taesoo Shin
.
You should tell me the reasons why I have violated
thermodynamics .
You should point out that . Where is it ?
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therefore will not be there to keep the machine in motion.
Rob St.Denis
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