OT: Stephen Fry does something no human has ever done before

[Sam Wormley]

Stephen Fry does something no human has ever done before
> http://www.sciencedump.com/content/steven-fry-does-something-no-human-being-has-ever-done

> 80658175170943878571660636856403766975289505440883277824000000000000

[pnal...@gmail.com]

Well, the odds of his particular shuffle being unique among all other shuffles ever may be very high indeed, but they are not infinite... just like the odds that 2 consecutive shuffles would be identical are incredibly small, but not zero.

In other words, he is probably correct, but it ain't necessarily so.

\Paul A

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stephen Fry does something no human has ever done before
>> http://www.sciencedump.com/content/steven-fry-does-something-no-human-being-has-ever-done

Utter, puerile, nonsense; that's not the way statistics and probability work.

[Wally W.]

If he started with a new new deck of cards in their standard, known
order: so few shuffles would seem to make his number of possible
arrangements quite less than 52-factorial.

[Sam Wormley]

Simply calculate the probability that your shuffled deck is the
same as somebody else's shuffled deck. Here's jimp's chance to
make a contribution to the newsgroup.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/12 7:11 PM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Stephen Fry does something no human has ever done before
>>>> http://www.sciencedump.com/content/steven-fry-does-something-no-human-being-has-ever-done
>>
>> Utter, puerile, nonsense; that's not the way statistics and probability work.
>>
>>
>
> Simply calculate the probability that your shuffled deck is the
> same as somebody else's shuffled deck. Here's jimp's chance to
> make a contribution to the newsgroup.

This is NOT a statistics and probability news group, it is sci.physics,
ass hat.

BTW, ass hat, starting with a new deck adds a huge bias to the results
of a shuffle.

[bja...@iwaynet.net]

TOTAL BULLSHIT! Stephen Fry is a moron.

Sam Wormley is a moron for being impressed with this nonsense.

And Science Dump is a moronic and anti-science show dedicated to the
destruction of science education.

His claim is complete and utter nonsense, even if a shuffle were perfect
(which this certainly was not). This is what happens when people begin
to imagine that mathematics is more real than reality.

Here it is in a nutshell for those still actually interested in science
as science and not politics: Even if something has an extremely low
probability of occurring, that does NOT mean it cannot occur! It does
not mean that the first two shuffles might not be the same. This
shameful exhibit shows where modern thought has sunk. Idiot statements
based upon mathematical suppositions that aren't even true. The
extension of to religious levels with no science to back it up.

Hence the statement that a deck of cards has NEVER been in this order
before, is the WORST kind of unthinking anti-science. They might as well
be asserting for children that the Earth is totally flat. Shameful
exhibit.

Even more pitiful is Sam's gullibility and lack of science education
that allows him to be impressed with such blatant nonsense.

[bja...@iwaynet.net]

As usual, Sam, you are so wrapped up in you science lies that you can't
see any science. Starting with a new deck the probably is quite low,
especially given the wild claim that this has NEVER been done before
EVER. Probability does NOT prove its never been done,Sam, I suggest you
look into taking a probability and statistics course at a seniors
program at a nearby community college. And then get back to us.

[Wally W.]

In fairness, the first look at the deck shows the four of spades on
the bottom.

He does not seem to be starting his on-camera shuffles with a "new"
deck in standard order.

But if the producers are worth their salt, that deck hasn't seen many
shuffles before it got on camera.

The odds would seem to be far greater than 1 in (52!) that no other
deck of cards has ever been in that order before.

[Wally W.]

His claims are:
1. "That pack of cards, ladies and gentlemen, believe it or not, has
never before, in the history of our planet been in that order. It's
never been in that order before."

2. "This pack of cards has never been in this order before."

The diversion about countless packs of cards on trillions of planets
is just that: a diversion.

His claims were about a particular pack of cards, which has not
existed for the entire "history of our planet."

A reasonable response is: So what? Who cares about his particular pack
of cards?

[Richard Tobin]

In article <bdf23a3a-6cce-4c3d...@googlegroups.com>,

<pnal...@gmail.com> wrote:

>In other words, he is probably correct, but it ain't necessarily so.

Supposing a perfectly random ordering, the probability is much better
than for many other things we would consider proved. For example, the
probability that there is an undetected error in the proof of Fermat's
last theorem or the 4-colour theorem is certainly greater than 1/52!.

-- Richard

[HVAC]

On 11/18/2012 1:22 AM, bja...@teranews.com wrote:
>
> As usual, Sam, you are so wrapped up in you science lies that you can't
> see any science. Starting with a new deck the probably is quite low,
> especially given the wild claim that this has NEVER been done before
> EVER. Probability does NOT prove its never been done,Sam, I suggest you
> look into taking a probability and statistics course at a seniors
> program at a nearby community college. And then get back to us.

"Us"?










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[Shmuel Metz]

In <796mn9-...@mail.specsol.com>, on 11/18/2012
at 04:54 AM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com said:

>Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math

Read carefully.

>This is NOT a statistics and probability news group, it is
>sci.physics, ass hat.

See above.

Note that I'm not saying that the cross-posting was appropriate, just
that it was there.

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[Mahipal]

On Nov 18, 10:38 am, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
<spamt...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
> In <796mn9-dcg....@mail.specsol.com>, on 11/18/2012

>    at 04:54 AM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com said:
>
> >Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math
>
> Read carefully.
>
> >This is NOT a statistics and probability news group, it is
> >sci.physics, ass hat.

Really? Statistics and Probability have no place in Statistical
Thermodynamics, in Quantum Mechanics, ..., err in Physics?

Ever compute, in a Physics Class, what is the Probability of breathing
the same air molecule inhaled by Julius Ceaser by someone alive today?

Being mad at SamBot is no reason to display one's Ignorance. IOW, stay
calm since the SamBot has no feelings to affect.

> See above.
>
> Note that I'm not saying that the cross-posting was appropriate, just
> that it was there.

Math and Physics often, every nanosecond, cross swords. Ykwim.

> --
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Enjo(y)...
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http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/
52=26*2=13*4=...

[RedAcer]

On 18/11/12 04:54, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/17/12 7:11 PM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Stephen Fry does something no human has ever done before
>>>>> http://www.sciencedump.com/content/steven-fry-does-something-no-human-being-has-ever-done
>>>
>>> Utter, puerile, nonsense; that's not the way statistics and probability work.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Simply calculate the probability that your shuffled deck is the
>> same as somebody else's shuffled deck. Here's jimp's chance to
>> make a contribution to the newsgroup.
>
> This is NOT a statistics and probability news group, it is sci.physics,
> ass hat.

He did say 'OT', and probability is used frequently in maths and
physics, is it not?

>
> BTW, ass hat, starting with a new deck adds a huge bias to the results
> of a shuffle.
>
>

Fry didn't say it was a new pack. It's reasonable to assume random pack
for the purposes of his demo.

[RedAcer]

52!=80658175170943878571660636856403766975289505440883277824000000000000

This is a very big number. How long have we had the modern pack? How
many shuffles have been made?

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 10:38 am, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> <spamt...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>> In <796mn9-dcg....@mail.specsol.com>, on 11/18/2012
>>    at 04:54 AM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com said:
>>
>> >Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math
>>
>> Read carefully.
>>
>> >This is NOT a statistics and probability news group, it is
>> >sci.physics, ass hat.
>
> Really? Statistics and Probability have no place in Statistical
> Thermodynamics, in Quantum Mechanics, ..., err in Physics?

Statistics and probability and math in general are of course used in
phyics, as well as chemistry, manufacturing engineering, and many,
many other fields.

However, they are concidered to be separate fields of study and have
separate USENET newsgroups for their discussion.

Have you ever wondered why universities have separate physics, chemistry,
math, and engineering departments?


<snip remaining babble>

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

Did I say that Fry said it was a new deck?

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics RedAcer <red...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

The current 52 card deck goes back to at least the 18th Century.

A couple of shuffles by a human is nowhere near randomization in the
mathematical sense and not even the mechanical shufflers used in casinos
are close to mathematical randomization.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Stephen Fry does something no human has ever done before

In retrospect, this is just as puerile as the old "I will show you something
that no one has ever seen before and will never see again." canard where
someone cracks open a nut and eats it.

[Sam Wormley]

On 11/18/12 12:23 PM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Statistics and probability and math in general are of course used in

> phy[s]ics, as well as chemistry, manufacturing engineering, and many,
> many other fields.

Nuff said!

[Mahipal]

On Nov 18, 1:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

Yes I've wondered. Why do you think there exist separate departments?

Leaving all your babble intact and in place.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323894704578115440209134854.html?mod=WSJ_article_comments#articleTabs%3Dcomments

or http://tinyurl.com/cetmxxw equivalently.

Enjo(y)...
--
Mahipal
http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

[Wally W.]

Irrelevant to his claim, which was only about the pack he had on the
show.

That pack may have existed for less than a year. It may have been
shuffled fewer than 100 times.

His claim that *his* pack of cards has never been in that order before
may or may not be true. While his statement was probably accurate, it
was of relevance to few.

You'll notice his claim wasn't a jaw-dropper for anyone on the set
with him.

Barring the invention of time machines, we can all say: no human has
occupied this point in space-time ever before. And we can repeat it
with 100% accuracy every instant as the Soar System moves through the
galaxy.

The unique occurrences are individually meaningful, important, and
worthy of contemplation.

But his personalization of the commonplace occurrence was over the top
by implying it was something only he could do.

Better to tell people that they could be equally special by doing the
same with their own pack of cards.

[Wally W.]

One would hope not to see it again.

[Will Janoschka]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:29:34, HVAC <hv...@physisist.net> wrote:

> On 11/18/2012 1:22 AM, bja...@teranews.com wrote:
> >
> > As usual, Sam, you are so wrapped up in you science lies that you can't
> > see any science. Starting with a new deck the probably is quite low,
> > especially given the wild claim that this has NEVER been done before
> > EVER. Probability does NOT prove its never been done,Sam, I suggest you
> > look into taking a probability and statistics course at a seniors
> > program at a nearby community college. And then get back to us.
>
>
> "Us"?
>

Both Bens!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 18, 1:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 18, 10:38 am, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>> > <spamt...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>> >> In <796mn9-dcg....@mail.specsol.com>, on 11/18/2012
>> >>    at 04:54 AM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com said:
>>
>> >> >Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math
>>
>> >> Read carefully.
>>
>> >> >This is NOT a statistics and probability news group, it is
>> >> >sci.physics, ass hat.
>>
>> > Really? Statistics and Probability have no place in Statistical
>> > Thermodynamics, in Quantum Mechanics, ..., err in Physics?
>>
>> Statistics and probability and math in general are of course used in
>> phyics, as well as chemistry, manufacturing engineering, and many,
>> many other fields.
>>
>> However, they are concidered to be separate fields of study and have
>> separate USENET newsgroups for their discussion.
>>
>> Have you ever wondered why universities have separate physics, chemistry,
>> math, and engineering departments?
>>
>> <snip remaining babble>
>
> Yes I've wondered. Why do you think there exist separate departments?

Because they are all concidered to be separate fields of study, something
that is blazingly obvious to most people.

If "everything was physics" as halfwits like you claim, MIT wouldn't have
5 different schools and over 30 different departments.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> wrote:

If "everything is physics" as dimwits like you claim, why does MIT have
5 different schools and over 30 different departments?

[Will Janoschka]

Perhaps "his" pack of cards is where you put "all" of your gold coins.
"?"

[Mahipal]

Concider? Is that like "with cider" when cidered? Don't answer, you'd
just give drinking a bad reputation jimp. Enjoying your jimping much?

> If "everything was physics" as halfwits like you claim, MIT wouldn't have
> 5 different schools and over 30 different departments.

I am not a halfwit, I am a full 76.38% wit. Go do the Statistics.

MIT? You went to MIT? There The Infinite Corridor is sweet.

Look jimp... if that is your Given Name... God help your Parents... I
share your frustration with SamBot. Seems, however a big but But BUT,
to Me that you are part of his Entourage. Come clean.

Usenet is for Human Interactions, not SamBots.

[Will Janoschka]

Yes, but do you deny replay? Why? No zero probility ever, even if
"al!" orther
probilities sum to >1.0000 (rare)!

[Wally W.]

Projectile vomiting comes to mind.

The other route is more usual and typically more private.

In the latter case, some digested atoms could wind up in the face of
the consumer. It may not be bad to see a portion of the eaten nut
again.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

It is a typo, moron.

You don't really think I would waste time on you spell checking?

<snip>

>> If "everything was physics" as halfwits like you claim, MIT wouldn't have
>> 5 different schools and over 30 different departments.
>
> I am not a halfwit, I am a full 76.38% wit. Go do the Statistics.

That would be math, not likely statistics. Notice that the 's' in statistics
is not capitalized.

> MIT? You went to MIT? There The Infinite Corridor is sweet.

Did I say I went to MIT?

How about Caltech with 6 academic divisions and 26 different academic
programs?

Who needs all that if "everything is physics"?

> Look jimp... if that is your Given Name

It is a computer login name, moron.


<snip remaining>

[Will Janoschka]

I agree, but this is sci.physics, or sci.math, not alt.be
nice.to.the.other.guy!.

[Mahipal]

You waste your time responding and doing the snip thing. Yawn.

> >> If "everything was physics" as halfwits like you claim, MIT wouldn't have
> >> 5 different schools and over 30 different departments.
>
> > I am not a halfwit, I am a full 76.38% wit. Go do the Statistics.
>
> That would be math, not likely statistics. Notice that the 's' in statistics
> is not capitalized.

For someone who cannot be bothered to spell check, what matters his or
her Capitalizations or lack thereof? Nil. Nada. Zero. 0.

> > MIT? You went to MIT? There The Infinite Corridor is sweet.
>
> Did I say I went to MIT?
>
> How about Caltech with 6 academic divisions and 26 different academic
> programs?

How about Caltech? Did you go to Caltech? Am I supposed to infer...
that Caltech was where you went to study at a University?

> Who needs all that if "everything is physics"?
>
> > Look jimp...  if that is your Given Name
>
> It is a computer login name, moron.
>
> <snip remaining>

You snip a lot. Did you read it first? I'm sure you did not.

But yes, Physics is Everything. Even, everything is physics. Notice
the Lowercases. Deal with it. Buy a Spell Checker jimp.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 18, 3:46 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

<snip>

>> It is a typo, moron.
>>
>> You don't really think I would waste time on you spell checking?
>>
>> <snip>
>
> You waste your time responding and doing the snip thing. Yawn.

Actually, snipping out old crap is good USENET etiquette, but as a babbling
moron you could care less.

<snip>

> For someone who cannot be bothered to spell check, what matters his or
> her Capitalizations or lack thereof? Nil. Nada. Zero. 0.

Someone that writes in sentence fragments and randomly capitalizes nouns
for no reason has little room to talk about the writing style of others.

> How about Caltech?

You didn't seem to like the MIT reference, so I gave you another from the
west coast.

> Did you go to Caltech? Am I supposed to infer...
> that Caltech was where you went to study at a University?

Irrelevant babble.

> You snip a lot. Did you read it first? I'm sure you did not.

Yours, no, as it is sentence fragment babble for the most part.

<snip>

[Mahipal]

On Nov 18, 5:16 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nothing, but at least it wasn't sentence fragment babble with all the nouns
capitalized.

[Mahipal]

On Nov 18, 8:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nothing, but at least it wasn't sentence fragment babble with all the nouns
> capitalized.

Keep sniping away as you are the sole judge who makes Others' content
just go away from Usenet. Keeping it clean downstream for the Adults
and Kids both, no doubt. Save Them from Capitalization. Good job.

I will always read the original post to which you've responded.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 18, 8:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nothing, but at least it wasn't sentence fragment babble with all the nouns
>> capitalized.
>
> Keep sniping away as you are the sole judge who makes Others' content
> just go away from Usenet. Keeping it clean downstream for the Adults
> and Kids both, no doubt. Save Them from Capitalization. Good job.

OK, here we go, rambling sentence fragment babble with nouns capitalized
for no reason.

> I will always read the original post to which you've responded.

Whoopeee for you.

Does that make your mommy proud?

[Mahipal]

On Nov 18, 9:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 18, 8:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Nothing, but at least it wasn't sentence fragment babble with all the nouns
> >> capitalized.
>
> > Keep sniping away as you are the sole judge who makes Others' content
> > just go away from Usenet. Keeping it clean downstream for the Adults
> > and Kids both, no doubt. Save Them from Capitalization. Good job.
>
> OK, here we go, rambling sentence fragment babble with nouns capitalized
> for no reason.

MIT? CalTech? I'm sure many of your readers would like to know. Your
Readers...

> > I will always read the original post to which you've responded.
>
> Whoopeee for you.

Jimp jimp JIMP?!

> Does that make your mommy proud?

What exactly does this question have to do with Science -- Physics,
Math, or Otherwise?

Wait a second...

What exactly does this question have to do with science -- physics,
math, or otherwise?

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mahipal" wrote in message
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===============================================================
I see you are enjoying "Trivial Banter (c)", UseNet's most popular juvenile
silly game.
Do carry on... <yawn>

-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> MIT? CalTech? I'm sure many of your readers would like to know. Your
> Readers...

What in the holy hell are you babbling about now in your broken English?

[Mahipal]

On Nov 18, 11:53 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

> Mahipalhttp://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

> ===============================================================
> I see you are enjoying "Trivial Banter (c)", UseNet's most popular juvenile
> silly game.
> Do carry on... <yawn>
>
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

Usenet posts have a physical History. I am not enjoying any Bantering.
Trimming and snipping have lead to lost and misdirected context. Not
my doing.

Do read the entire thread if you have not already done so. Yawn or no.

RedAcer had also raised the same issue I am stuck dealing about with
Jimp.

Have a good day. Or don't. Quiet desperation is the English Way.

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 12:31 am, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > MIT? CalTech? I'm sure many of your readers would like to know. Your
> > Readers...
>
> What in the holy hell are you babbling about now in your broken English?

Read anything I wrote at http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/poems/ and
gauge how broken my English is. Too bad I have to presume jimp can
read.

In this thread, you jimp first typed MIT and CalTech. Did you attend
either one?

Given your baseless accusations, you make even SamBot look good!

Remember your words "This is NOT a statistics and probability news
group, it is sci.physics, ass hat. " -- jimp

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mahipal" wrote in message
news:338d2886-806e-426e...@eo2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

============================================
No thank you, Stephen Fry is a comical faggot and of course you
enjoy banter or you would not partake in it. Do carry on with your
one-liner tweets to the greater glory of twitter and the detriment of
usenet.
As a pen pal discussing math and physics you make a good marginal
jot. I leave you to your trivia. Have a bad night. Or don't. Arrogant
bluster is the American Way.

[bja...@iwaynet.net]

The world bank who for years has been riding high atop a global
financial Ponzi scheme as now turned it's expertise to another major
global scam. Global warming: Like a blast of hot air from "radiative
forcing" AGW propaganda has seared across the world media due to a
report commissioned by the world bank.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-19/world-bank-issues-global-warming-warning/4379634


(Australia leading the AGW charge obviously leads this one too)

Highlights include: FOUR DEGREE TEMPERATURE RISE by 2100. Coastal cities
flooded by huge rise in sea levels, hideous poverty for millions world
wide, record breaking weather such as [category 1] storm Sandy, and bad
weather in Haiti, Heatwaves like the one that devastated everyone in the
USA this summer along with drought that might never quit. In fact, we quote:

"Low-lying areas such as Bangladesh, Egypt, Vietnam and parts of
Africa's coast could see major blows to food production, with drought
severely hindering agriculture elsewhere, the study said."

There you have it. The world "could" be destroyed by flood and water if
you are low and lack of water and drought if you are high! The END IS
NEAR...well UNLESS all important nations sign on to the
civilization-busting energy "carbon" tax schemes.


Here in sci.physics those few of us who still understand science would
rather take a look at some actual data. Happily AGW promoter, NASA's
Dr. Hansen has provided us with some through his improved GISS world
temperature measurement system.

And here is his latest data as provided through October 2012.

http://www.mrk-inc.com/users/bspam/AGWGISSOCT.gif


Remember all those record temperatures being set last summer? Guess
what? Weather is NOT climate. Note the tiny rise for the past decade of
about .02 degree per ten years. I wonder what that "could" be in a
century (even though there is ZERO scientific reason to assume that
current trends will continue for a century)? MMMMMM. That "could" be as
much as .2 degree! I can see that sea water lapping over Bangladesh,
Egypt, Vietnam, and various hell-holes in Africa right now!

But the one thing I cannot figure out is how the German-based Climate
Analytics and the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research that
made the study managed to pump .2 degree into 4 degrees. There is some
serious climate amplification going on in Potsdam. Oh well, maybe it's
just another one of those European loose timing cable things.... :-)

[bja...@iwaynet.net]

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 2:05 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

> Mahipalhttp://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

>
> ============================================
> No thank you, Stephen Fry is a comical faggot and of course you
> enjoy banter or you would not partake in it. Do carry on with your
> one-liner tweets to the greater glory of twitter and the detriment of
> usenet.
> As a pen pal discussing math and physics you make a good marginal
> jot.  I leave you to your trivia. Have a bad night. Or don't. Arrogant
> bluster is the American Way.
>
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

By your "No thank you" I must presume you have no knowledge of the
progression of this thread. As always, my jots are worth the knowing.

My recent resort to one-liners on Usenet is a defense mechanism
against the greater annoyance of follow-up posters who dissect or
deconstruct the paragraphs in the original posts. Jimp being one such
person. One-liners here, not Twitter, likely evolved because the
number of Trolls and Jimps exceed the count of mature reasoned
Individuals. One-liners are unfortunate but many People on Usenet have
learned to write with them for a kind of literary safety. So have I
for the near future.

I really was not concerned about comedian Fry since I merely reacted
to a nonsensical statement made regards Statistics having no place in
sic dot physics. As to discussing math and physics, I've done the best
allowed here by the ever ready to pounce UseNuttters. If no one else
can succeed at maintaining an on topic discussion, I certainly am not
able to fight the storm of trolls. Even you've misinterpreted the role
I played in this thread alone. So what's your point of feigning that
it is I who is bantering off topic -- regardless of my personal
quality?

Enjo(y)...
--
Mahipal
http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

Due to my signature, there is always Math and Physics content in my
posts. Always. No UseNutters can dissect its contents either. A strong
enough www IT Defense for now.

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mahipal" wrote in message
news:882e7ccb-48d8-4fc1...@ib4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

By your "No thank you" I must presume you have no knowledge of the
progression of this thread.

=====================================================
I've seen enough to stay away, it offers me no interest.
Once again I leave you to your trivia. Have a bad night. Or don't. Stupid
arrogant bluster is the American Way, Yankee Bard.

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 9:56 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

"Quiet desperation is the English Way" -- Pink Floyd classic lyric.

You are welcome to start your own topics for discussion. I live to
eagerly vote in America, was born in India. So I technically cannot
allow anyone to think a Yankee I. Due to SR, flying back and forth
keeps me theoretically younger than had I just sat my life away.

Be and fare well John. Have a good evening.

Mine's a new indifferent morning now. Indifferent night looming across
the Sky.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 19, 12:31 am, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > MIT? CalTech? I'm sure many of your readers would like to know. Your
>> > Readers...
>>
>> What in the holy hell are you babbling about now in your broken English?
>
> Read anything I wrote at http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/poems/ and
> gauge how broken my English is. Too bad I have to presume jimp can
> read.
>
> In this thread, you jimp first typed MIT and CalTech. Did you attend
> either one?

Are you on drugs?

> Given your baseless accusations, you make even SamBot look good!
>
> Remember your words "This is NOT a statistics and probability news
> group, it is sci.physics, ass hat. " -- jimp

Correct, sci.physics is NOT a statistics and probability USENET group, it
is a physics group.

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 11:46 am, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 12:31 am, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > MIT? CalTech? I'm sure many of your readers would like to know. Your
> >> > Readers...
>
> >> What in the holy hell are you babbling about now in your broken English?
>
> > Read anything I wrote athttp://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/poems/and
> > gauge how broken my English is. Too bad I have to presume jimp can
> > read.
>
> > In this thread, you jimp first typed MIT and CalTech.  Did you attend
> > either one?
>
> Are you on drugs?

No. Yet you continue to ask the stupidest of questions.

> > Given your baseless accusations, you make even SamBot look good!
>
> > Remember your words "This is NOT a statistics and probability news
> > group, it is sci.physics, ass hat. " -- jimp
>
> Correct, sci.physics is NOT a statistics and probability USENET group, it
> is a physics group.

Ok, so you say. Well then... shuffling cards, any cards, 52! or
thereabouts, is a Physics activity involving both matter, radiation,
and energy. Is my math off again? Oy.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

If everything is physics, why does every college and university on the
planet have separate biology, chemistry, engineering, geology,
humanities, physcis, mathematics, astronomy, etc. departments?

[Mahipal]

[Mahipal]

Good question. The nearest I can figure is that most fields are
slightly independent of one another, save that Physics and Mathematics
are common to all others and especially to each other. Draw your own
Venn Diagrams please. Also, the more fields and departments you have,
the more students will likely attend, leading to the ultimate goal --
at least in the USA -- of filling the Football Stadiums.

Enjo(y)...
--
Mahipal
http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

Sorry I earlier hit Send accidentally... responding with content. Was
not my intention but the hand having clicked, moves on.

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mahipal" wrote in message
news:e5aa90c5-d308-4f37...@q4g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...

================================================
1) Pink isn't my colour, whatever you are talking about.
2) I know I am and have often done so.
3) I would never voluntarily give another power over me. Politicians may
vote for me if they wish. They never do.
4) With a name like "Mahipal Virdy" I did not imagine you to be a native of
Italy, no vowel at the end. Were you to be Mahipalo Verdi I'd reconsider my
supposition. "Indian" in the land of the motherfucker (a term unheard of in
England) is an aboriginal such as the Cherokee or Crow, you'll have to be an
Asian Yankee, much as a "yo' nigga" (as they call themselves but we must
not) is an African Yankee. In England it is correct to call them black.
During O.J. Simpson's trial one of the prosecutors, Christopher Darden,
himself an African Yankee, wanted to call a black Englishman as a witness
but found it difficult to refer to him other than as an "African American"
Englishman, which is obviously false.
5) I lived in Pittsburgh Pa for 18 years and retired to Florida for two
years before returning home to "Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves"
but the waves don't obey the rules anymore than I do. So like you I have
flown over the waves often and am now younger than I was when I was born,
thanks to SR.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

That is because you are an ineducable idiot capitalizing nouns at random.

Mathematics is a fully separate field of study which is used as a tool
in other fields of study to describe phenomena.

By your idiotic definition language is physics as language is used to
describe physical phenomena.

> Draw your own
> Venn Diagrams please. Also, the more fields and departments you have,
> the more students will likely attend, leading to the ultimate goal --
> at least in the USA -- of filling the Football Stadiums.

That is the babbling nonsense of an ineducable idiot.

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 1:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 12:16 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

[trim]

>
> >> If everything is physics, why does every college and university on the
> >> planet have separate biology, chemistry, engineering, geology,
> >> humanities, physcis, mathematics, astronomy, etc. departments?
>
> > Good question. The nearest I can figure is that most fields are
> > slightly independent of one another, save that Physics and Mathematics
> > are common to all others and especially to each other.
>
> That is because you are an ineducable idiot capitalizing nouns at random.

By now, I am deaf to your insults. I capitalize as I feel it
appropriate.

> Mathematics is a fully separate field of study which is used as a tool
> in other fields of study to describe phenomena.

Mathematics does not thrive in a vacuum. Many a great Physicist
advanced the field of -- must use lowercase -- mathematics. Ito and
Feynman, for example. At some nonidiotic level, a plane you jimp will
never reach, physicists and mathematicians confuse themselves not ever
knowing which field actually holds potential for a Nobel Prize?!

> By your idiotic definition language is physics as language is used to
> describe physical phenomena.

Language is most certainly physics Physics PHYSICS. Language initially
evolved when humans were first forced to utter in sound waves.
Language takes and took a Physics. Oy.

> > Draw your own
> > Venn Diagrams please. Also, the more fields and departments you have,
> > the more students will likely attend, leading to the ultimate goal --
> > at least in the USA -- of filling the Football Stadiums.
>
> That is the babbling nonsense of an ineducable idiot.

However uneducated I may be, and however lacking a sense of humor you
actually are, where did you jimp earn your worthless paper degree?

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 19, 1:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 19, 12:16 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> [trim]
>>
>> >> If everything is physics, why does every college and university on the
>> >> planet have separate biology, chemistry, engineering, geology,
>> >> humanities, physcis, mathematics, astronomy, etc. departments?
>>
>> > Good question. The nearest I can figure is that most fields are
>> > slightly independent of one another, save that Physics and Mathematics
>> > are common to all others and especially to each other.
>>
>> That is because you are an ineducable idiot capitalizing nouns at random.
>
> By now, I am deaf to your insults. I capitalize as I feel it
> appropriate.

That is because you are an ineducable idiot capitalizing nouns at random.

If you can't understand the simple rule of capitalization in English,
how could you ever understand the difference between mathematics and
physics?

>> Mathematics is a fully separate field of study which is used as a tool
>> in other fields of study to describe phenomena.
>
> Mathematics does not thrive in a vacuum.

It most certainly does ahd has.

> Many a great Physicist
> advanced the field of -- must use lowercase -- mathematics.

And an actress invented spread spectrum technology, so what?

<snip kook babble>

>> By your idiotic definition language is physics as language is used to
>> describe physical phenomena.
>
> Language is most certainly physics Physics PHYSICS. Language initially
> evolved when humans were first forced to utter in sound waves.
> Language takes and took a Physics. Oy.

Yet more meaningless kook babble; what a moron.

>> > Draw your own
>> > Venn Diagrams please. Also, the more fields and departments you have,
>> > the more students will likely attend, leading to the ultimate goal --
>> > at least in the USA -- of filling the Football Stadiums.
>>
>> That is the babbling nonsense of an ineducable idiot.
>
> However uneducated I may be, and however lacking a sense of humor you
> actually are, where did you jimp earn your worthless paper degree?

At a real university with separate physics, mathematics, and English
departments like every other university on the planet.

Where did you learn your Pidgin English?

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 2:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 1:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Nov 19, 12:16 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > [trim]
>
> >> >> If everything is physics, why does every college and university on the
> >> >> planet have separate biology, chemistry, engineering, geology,
> >> >> humanities, physcis, mathematics, astronomy, etc. departments?
>
> >> > Good question. The nearest I can figure is that most fields are
> >> > slightly independent of one another, save that Physics and Mathematics
> >> > are common to all others and especially to each other.
>
> >> That is because you are an ineducable idiot capitalizing nouns at random.
>
> > By now, I am deaf to your insults. I capitalize as I feel it
> > appropriate.
>
> That is because you are an ineducable idiot capitalizing nouns at random.
>
> If you can't understand the simple rule of capitalization in English,
> how could you ever understand the difference between mathematics and
> physics?

Good one! From someone who cannot spell "and."

> >> Mathematics is a fully separate field of study which is used as a tool
> >> in other fields of study to describe phenomena.
>
> > Mathematics does not thrive in a vacuum.
>
> It most certainly does ahd has.

You spelling is not improved.

> > Many a great Physicist
> > advanced the field of -- must use lowercase -- mathematics.
>
> And an actress invented spread spectrum technology, so what?
>
> <snip kook babble>
>
> >> By your idiotic definition language is physics as language is used to
> >> describe physical phenomena.
>
> > Language is most certainly physics Physics PHYSICS. Language initially
> > evolved when humans were first forced to utter in sound waves.
> > Language takes and took a Physics. Oy.
>
> Yet more meaningless kook babble; what a moron.
>
> >> > Draw your own
> >> > Venn Diagrams please. Also, the more fields and departments you have,
> >> > the more students will likely attend, leading to the ultimate goal --
> >> > at least in the USA -- of filling the Football Stadiums.
>
> >> That is the babbling nonsense of an ineducable idiot.
>
> > However uneducated I may be, and however lacking a sense of humor you
> > actually are, where did you jimp earn your worthless paper degree?
>
> At a real university with separate physics, mathematics, and English
> departments like every other university on the planet.

Yes but does your real university have a name, an address? I need to
know where not to send anyone to study.

> Where did you learn your Pidgin English?

You imply I learned.

Good riddance and do learn to add me to your Usenet Killfile.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 19, 2:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 19, 1:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Nov 19, 12:16 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> > [trim]
>>
>> >> >> If everything is physics, why does every college and university on the
>> >> >> planet have separate biology, chemistry, engineering, geology,
>> >> >> humanities, physcis, mathematics, astronomy, etc. departments?
>>
>> >> > Good question. The nearest I can figure is that most fields are
>> >> > slightly independent of one another, save that Physics and Mathematics
>> >> > are common to all others and especially to each other.
>>
>> >> That is because you are an ineducable idiot capitalizing nouns at random.
>>
>> > By now, I am deaf to your insults. I capitalize as I feel it
>> > appropriate.
>>
>> That is because you are an ineducable idiot capitalizing nouns at random.
>>
>> If you can't understand the simple rule of capitalization in English,
>> how could you ever understand the difference between mathematics and
>> physics?
>
> Good one! From someone who cannot spell "and."

Great retort on an obvious typo from someone that consistantly writes
babbling sentence fragments and capitalizes words at random.

<snip remaining babbling sentence fragments and random capitalized words>

[Mahipal]

Do provide a proof that my capitalized words were random.

[Benj]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:29:28 +0000, jimp wrote:

> At a real university with separate physics, mathematics, and English
> departments like every other university on the planet.
>
> Where did you learn your Pidgin English?

Well, OK, jimp, but where I come from if it didn't have a real (American)
Football team, you ain't shit. And what is that stupid game they play
all over the rest of the world that they mistakenly call "football"?

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 1:19 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

> Mahipalhttp://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

> ================================================
> 1) Pink isn't my colour, whatever you are talking about.

Pink Floyd is amongst one of the greatest handful of Rock Bands ever,
happen to be English, and are certainly worth the time invested in
listening. Strongly recommended. Will gladly provide you a list of
songs to begin with, if you request. "Welcome to The Machine" for the
first one.

> 2) I know I am and have often done so.

Nice.

> 3) I would never voluntarily give another power over me. Politicians may
> vote for me if they wish. They never do.

I was being eagerly sarcastic about voting at all. Politicians will
ruin my life, and mine life alone, without me asking for them to do
so. So considerate They.

> 4) With a name like "Mahipal Virdy" I did not imagine you to be a native of
> Italy, no vowel at the end.  Were you to be Mahipalo Verdi I'd reconsider my
> supposition.  "Indian" in the land of the motherfucker (a term unheard of in
> England) is an aboriginal such as the Cherokee or Crow, you'll have to be an
> Asian Yankee, much as a "yo' nigga"  (as they call themselves but we must
> not) is an African Yankee. In England it is correct to call them black.
> During O.J. Simpson's trial one of the prosecutors, Christopher Darden,
> himself an African Yankee, wanted to call a black Englishman as a witness
> but found it difficult to refer to him other than as an "African American"
> Englishman, which is obviously false.

In USA many often think, hear, my name is as Verde. Hence the colour
green is appealing to me. Some Uncles of mine use the string "Birdy"
in place of Virdy. There's no write answer to phonetics. Overall,
given your concern, I do have to accept that Racism and Hatred are
alive and well on Earth. Sad, but so it is. Perhaps I will learn to
hide my colours on Usenet in the future.

> 5) I lived in Pittsburgh Pa for 18 years and retired to Florida for two
> years before returning home to "Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves"
> but the waves don't obey the rules anymore than I do. So like you I have
> flown over the waves often and am now younger than I was when I was born,
> thanks to SR.

Younger than when born? What's your gamma factor?

> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do provide a proof that my capitalized words were random.

Do shove it up your ass and learn the simple rule of capitalization in
English.

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 5:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Do provide a proof that my capitalized words were random.
>
> Do shove it up your ass and learn the simple rule of capitalization in
> English.

You do know how to gauge something was random?

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, as a matter of fact I do.

Since you are a thick headed idiot, I will expand on what I said earlier
and will type slowly so you MAY be able to understand it.

You appear to capitalize nouns at random.

No, I have not done the math to determine if it is truely random nor is
the sample size sufficient to make a good mathematical determination.

However, I have seen enough of your prose to be able to say without a
doubt you are clueless as to when to capitalize a word.

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 6:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 5:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Do provide a proof that my capitalized words were random.
>
> >> Do shove it up your ass and learn the simple rule of capitalization in
> >> English.
>
> > You do know how to gauge something was random?
>
> Yes, as a matter of fact I do.

Prove it, since your word is not, and never will be, sufficient.

> Since you are a thick headed idiot, I will expand on what I said earlier
> and will type slowly so you MAY be able to understand it.
>
> You appear to capitalize nouns at random.

I capitalize nouns when appropriate. As I've stated already.

> No, I have not done the math to determine if it is truely random nor is
> the sample size sufficient to make a good mathematical determination.

The sample size, given my wasted word count, is beyond sufficient.

> However, I have seen enough of your prose to be able to say without a
> doubt you are clueless as to when to capitalize a word.

That's your entire gripe? I spelled Caesar wrong too. Noticed it?

What real University did you attend?! Perhaps you can go to an
appropriate qualified different Department there and ask for help
regards the requisite Probability and Statistics skills. When They
laugh at You, take HD moving pictures and post consequent video to
YouTube pronto.

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mahipal" wrote in message
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======================================================
The dark side of the moon is the side facing away from the sun and not worth
mentioning since new moons occur once a month. English musicians of
noteworthiness are Delius, Elgar, Vaughn Williams. You are recommending Coca
Cola and Sprite to someone who prefers Merlot and Sauvignon Blanc. Same
colour, different taste. Pink is still not my colour.

> 2) I know I am and have often done so.

Nice.

> 3) I would never voluntarily give another power over me. Politicians may
> vote for me if they wish. They never do.

I was being eagerly sarcastic about voting at all. Politicians will
ruin my life, and mine life alone, without me asking for them to do
so. So considerate They.

=======================================================
Sarcasm should be blatant to be effective. In our previous encounter your
complaint was that I was not specific and threatened to withdraw, so I
preempted you and withdrew.

> 4) With a name like "Mahipal Virdy" I did not imagine you to be a native
> of
> Italy, no vowel at the end. Were you to be Mahipalo Verdi I'd reconsider
> my
> supposition. "Indian" in the land of the motherfucker (a term unheard of
> in
> England) is an aboriginal such as the Cherokee or Crow, you'll have to be
> an
> Asian Yankee, much as a "yo' nigga" (as they call themselves but we must
> not) is an African Yankee. In England it is correct to call them black.
> During O.J. Simpson's trial one of the prosecutors, Christopher Darden,
> himself an African Yankee, wanted to call a black Englishman as a witness
> but found it difficult to refer to him other than as an "African American"
> Englishman, which is obviously false.

In USA many often think, hear, my name is as Verde. Hence the colour
green is appealing to me. Some Uncles of mine use the string "Birdy"
in place of Virdy. There's no write answer to phonetics. Overall,
given your concern, I do have to accept that Racism and Hatred are
alive and well on Earth. Sad, but so it is. Perhaps I will learn to
hide my colours on Usenet in the future.

===============================================
Floyd Pink of rock candy (with "Margate" extruded all the way through it)
cannot be disguised as Green Joe of Opera Winfrey.
https://marketplace-images.asos.com/fa/21f3aab9-c587-4a8f-85ae-e919e6a53edb_huge.jpg
You are forever an Asian Yankee.

> 5) I lived in Pittsburgh Pa for 18 years and retired to Florida for two
> years before returning home to "Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves"
> but the waves don't obey the rules anymore than I do. So like you I have
> flown over the waves often and am now younger than I was when I was born,
> thanks to SR.

Younger than when born? What's your gamma factor?

============================================
Imaginary. The square root of minus one is an operator.
A single trip on Concorde and one arrives in New York before taking off in
London.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img54.gif
That looks like beta to me, pronounced "vetta" like the Gaelic v in
"Siobhan". Unfortunately relativists are so stupid they can't read Greek
letters.
While I was in The USA I objected to being called "white" and insisted I was
an English-American Englishman come to take the colonies back and collect
the Chinese tea (grown in India) taxes. Strange country, the USA. Full of
Xtians who want some guy Jesus for a monarch and give up the republican
democracy.

[hanson]

.... ahahahaha.. AHAHAHAHA... ROTFLMAO...
>
"Mahipal" Virdy <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:
In USA many often think, hear, my name 'Virdy' is as "Verde".

Some Uncles of mine use the string "Birdy" in place of Virdy.

There's no write answer to phonetics. Overall, I do have to

accept that Racism and Hatred are alive and well on Earth.
Sad, but so it is.
>

hanson wrote:
Of course you do have to accept that "Racism and Hatred
are alive and well on Earth". But not because it is "sad".
>
To label R&H as "sad" is only a convenient, politically
correct side step-tango. It takes always 2 to tango and
it always begins when one side gives cause & reason
for it. --- Kikes are masters at it and have no qualms
to cry "Anti-Semitism" the very moment they create
and cause it... ahahaha....
>
R & H are hardwired survival relics of anthropic fears,
aka Flight or Flight MO. --- What is surprising though
is that R & H is self limiting, overridden and negated
by hormones during mating season, which is 24/7/365
in humans... ... So, they make luv, sweet luv and the
moment the orgasmic after glow is gone the duo
returns to R&H, against each other, as if that were the
natural state of affairs... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
>
So, Virdy look at it from the bright verde side, get
yourself a birdy and like you say: "Enjo(y)" ....
>
Thanks for the laughs, guy... ahahahahahahanson
>
BTW: Belated Happy Birthday wishes to you for
your past 74th B'day after 6-June-1938. Cheers!

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 5:57 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
> .... ahahahaha.. AHAHAHAHA... ROTFLMAO...
>

> "Mahipal" Virdy <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In USA many often think, hear, my name 'Virdy' is as "Verde".
> Some Uncles of mine use the string "Birdy" in place of Virdy.
> There's no write answer to phonetics. Overall, I do have to
> accept that Racism and Hatred are alive and well on Earth.
> Sad, but so it is.
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> Of course  you do have to accept that "Racism and Hatred
> are alive and well on Earth". But not because it is "sad".

It R&H is sad. Evolution is not a facade. Brothers?!

> To label  R&H as "sad" is only a convenient, politically
> correct side step-tango. It takes always 2 to tango and
> it always begins when one side gives cause & reason
> for it. ---  Kikes are masters at it and have no qualms
> to cry "Anti-Semitism" the very moment they create
> and cause it... ahahaha....

How come there's no Anti-Islamism, or Anti-Eskimoism, or ... Anti-
Menism? Yet the Anti-Pastoism tastes great.

> R & H are hardwired survival relics of anthropic fears,
> aka Flight or Flight MO. --- What is surprising though
> is that  R & H is self limiting, overridden and negated
> by hormones during mating season, which is 24/7/365
> in humans... ... So, they make luv, sweet luv and the
> moment the orgasmic after glow is gone the duo
> returns to R&H, against each other, as if that were the
> natural state of affairs... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...

I am not trying to be politically correct regards R&H. The truth is, I
am amusedly to be on the receiving end despite many an ironic
contradicting fact. I still remain defensive since some Idiot tried to
label Me, and You, as racist on Usenet. It still bothers Me because a
False Accusation is always very difficult to disprove. Ykwim.

> So, Virdy look at it from the bright verde side, get
> yourself a birdy and like you say: "Enjo(y)" ....
>
> Thanks for the laughs, guy... ahahahahahahanson
>
> BTW:  Belated Happy Birthday wishes to you for
> your past 74th B'day after  6-June-1938. Cheers!

Thanks but that's not my Birthday. Mine is May 12, 1961. So my age is
about 52! Cheers and very many Many MANY Happy Birthdays to you too
hanson!

Fwiw, really nice post you made in the "Aether is mass" thread. Still
studying the three SR, GR, TOE permutations. All the best, as always.
I cannot imagine anything You would say about, and to Me, that would
ever make me mad at you Bhai. Do, however, keep trying...
ahahahahahahanson!

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 19, 6:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 19, 5:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Do provide a proof that my capitalized words were random.
>>
>> >> Do shove it up your ass and learn the simple rule of capitalization in
>> >> English.
>>
>> > You do know how to gauge something was random?
>>
>> Yes, as a matter of fact I do.
>
> Prove it, since your word is not, and never will be, sufficient.

I have no need to prove anything to a halfwit like you.

>> Since you are a thick headed idiot, I will expand on what I said earlier
>> and will type slowly so you MAY be able to understand it.
>>
>> You appear to capitalize nouns at random.
>
> I capitalize nouns when appropriate. As I've stated already.

No, you do not, not even at a 5th grade level.

http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/capital.asp

<snip remaining kook babble>

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 7:46 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 6:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Nov 19, 5:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > Do provide a proof that my capitalized words were random.
>
> >> >> Do shove it up your ass and learn the simple rule of capitalization in
> >> >> English.
>
> >> > You do know how to gauge something was random?
>
> >> Yes, as a matter of fact I do.
>
> > Prove it, since your word is not, and never will be, sufficient.
>
> I have no need to prove anything to a halfwit like you.

Prove it to Usenet. Get help as needed from your unnamed real
university.

> >> Since you are a thick headed idiot, I will expand on what I said earlier
> >> and will type slowly so you MAY be able to understand it.
>
> >> You appear to capitalize nouns at random.
>
> > I capitalize nouns when appropriate. As I've stated already.
>
> No, you do not, not even at a 5th grade level.
>
> http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/capital.asp
>
> <snip remaining kook babble>

Thanks but, grade level indifferent, the keyword here is "random."

Clue: I capitalize or SHOUT per my desires. Usenet groups, especially
these two here, which "appear" as per your word, only care about
Random Events. Be the events my typing or your desperate escape
attempts.

Teach Me something beyond the Rules of insignificant grammar.

Show Me the random in my posts in this here one thread. I've used,
surely, more words than the 52 cards in any deck of cards already.

Snip my entire post and just respond with a empty post. Just do it.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 19, 7:46 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 19, 6:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Nov 19, 5:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Do provide a proof that my capitalized words were random.
>>
>> >> >> Do shove it up your ass and learn the simple rule of capitalization in
>> >> >> English.
>>
>> >> > You do know how to gauge something was random?
>>
>> >> Yes, as a matter of fact I do.
>>
>> > Prove it, since your word is not, and never will be, sufficient.
>>
>> I have no need to prove anything to a halfwit like you.
>
> Prove it to Usenet.

Usenet is a distributed discussion system, not a person or group of persons,
which means it would be impossible to "Prove it to Usenet.".

<snip remaining kook babble>

[Mahipal]

Prove the random usage of Capitals, by Me, to yourself. Get over
pretending that there is anyone else even reading your ridiculous
Babble anywhere.

When someone else Tomorrow asks you what name is your university,
remember it's not real. Good Riddance!

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 19, 9:05 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 19, 7:46 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Nov 19, 6:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > On Nov 19, 5:31 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > Do provide a proof that my capitalized words were random.
>>
>> >> >> >> Do shove it up your ass and learn the simple rule of capitalization in
>> >> >> >> English.
>>
>> >> >> > You do know how to gauge something was random?
>>
>> >> >> Yes, as a matter of fact I do.
>>
>> >> > Prove it, since your word is not, and never will be, sufficient.
>>
>> >> I have no need to prove anything to a halfwit like you.
>>
>> > Prove it to Usenet.
>>
>> Usenet is a distributed discussion system, not a person or group of persons,
>> which means it would be impossible to "Prove it to Usenet.".
>>
>> <snip remaining kook babble>
>
> Prove the random usage of Capitals, by Me, to yourself.

QED.

That you capitalize words that shouldn't be capitalized is blazingly
obvious and requires no proof as this last sentence demonstrates.

<snip remaining kook babble unread>

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 10:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 9:05 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

[trim]

> >> > Prove it to Usenet.
>
> >> Usenet is a distributed discussion system, not a person or group of persons,
> >> which means it would be impossible to "Prove it to Usenet.".

Keep dreaming that Usenet is not a group of persons.

> >> <snip remaining kook babble>
>
> > Prove the random usage of Capitals, by Me, to yourself.
>
> QED.
>
> That you capitalize words that shouldn't be capitalized is blazingly
> obvious and requires no proof as this last sentence demonstrates.
>
> <snip remaining kook babble unread>

The planet at large does not share your OCD with Capitals.

You jimp Jimp JIMP are an English Idiot on the Usenet Worldwide.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

Most people know how to correctly capitalize words by the 5th grade.

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 11:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > On Nov 19, 10:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

[trim]

> > The planet at large does not share your OCD with Capitals.
>
> Most people know how to correctly capitalize words by the 5th grade.
>
> <snip remaining kook babble unread>

Wow, you must've had a whole line to snip. Got tired deleting?

People communicate despite English being a language.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 19, 11:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > On Nov 19, 10:01 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
> [trim]
>
>> > The planet at large does not share your OCD with Capitals.
>>
>> Most people know how to correctly capitalize words by the 5th grade.
>>
>> <snip remaining kook babble unread>
>
> Wow, you must've had a whole line to snip. Got tired deleting?

Moron.

> People communicate despite English being a language.

Ineducable idiot.

[Shmuel Metz]

In <uuvqn9-...@mail.specsol.com>, on 11/20/2012

at 12:37 AM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com said:

>In sci.physics Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I capitalize nouns when appropriate. As I've stated already.

Need he say more? (-;

--
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[hanson]

"Mahipal" Virdy <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
BTW: Belated Happy Birthday wishes to you for

your past 74th B'day after. Cheers!
>
"Mahipal" wrote:
Thanks but 6-June-1938 is not my Birthday. Mine is

May 12, 1961. So my age is about 52!
>

hanson wrote:
Even more Kudos to you, then. Your posts show
that you have wisdom far beyond your years.

>
"Mahipal" wrote:
Racism and Hatred are alive and well on Earth.
Sad, but so it is.
>
hanson wrote:

[...] Kikes are masters at it and have no qualms

to cry "Anti-Semitism" the very moment they
create and cause it... ahahaha....
>

"Mahipal" wrote:
How come there's no Anti-Islamism, or Anti-Eskimoism, or

... Anti-Menism...[or] Anti-Pastoism although it tastes great?
>
hanson wrote:
The eminent Jewish scholar Harold Wallace Rosenthal
explained that (R & H)s & "Antis" offer the evolutionary
advantages of aggression/"first blood"... Whether that is
"sad or not" does not matter, & he put it this way in his
<http://tinyurl.com/The-HW-Rosenthal-interview-XT>
||R:|| We Jew have willingly sacrificed some Jews so that
||R:|| we can continue with our "persecution" propaganda
||R:|| & our phony cries of "Anti-Semite/ism"....
>
See, Mahi, the Kikes are just mentioned here as a blatant
examples in the use of (R & H)s... but (R & H)s are global &
pan-cultural, possibly hardwired, but certainly handed
down and taught generation after generation, in form
of slogans, catch words or logos, as "Anti-of any type".
They will be used as long as humans are around.

>
"Mahipal" wrote:
I still remain defensive since some Idiot tried to label

Me, and You, as racist on Usenet. It still bothers Me....
>
hanson wrote:
.... ahahahaha... for crying out loud, Virdy...WHY?...
You are missing a great opportunity for fun, laughs
and hilarity. Whenever you get accused of that, you
quickly check what it was, in your post, that cranked
the accuser. Then you use that very item, and repeat
it over and over. It will wind him up and make him
crank himself ever more... until He see that HE was
and is the "idiot".... while you are doing your ROFLs...

>
"Mahipal" wrote:
really nice post you made in the "Aether is mass" thread.

<http://tinyurl.com/Aethers-of-SR-GR-and-TOE>

Still studying the three SR, GR, TOE permutations.
>

hanson wrote:
Thanks, dude. I can see why you are one of the few that
it resonated with. It has the same flavor as is yours in
<http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/>
in which it is demonstrated that the step of interpreting
experimental data to present a 1st model is always
clouded since there are many ways to skin the cat.
Models are Models. Reality is Reality and the twain
will never meet... no matter how much one tries
to meat and mince them.... .... ahahahaha...
>
Thanks for the laughs, Virdy.... ahahahahanson

[Mahipal]

On Nov 20, 7:00 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:

> "Mahipal" Virdy <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>
>  BTW: Belated Happy Birthday wishes to you for
> your past 74th B'day after. Cheers!

Where did you get the 6-June-1938 date? Just curious I.

> "Mahipal" wrote:
>
> Thanks but 6-June-1938 is not my Birthday. Mine is
> May 12, 1961. So my age is about 52!
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> Even more Kudos to you, then.  Your posts show
> that you have wisdom far beyond your years.

Sure, easy for you to say! I work hard Hard HARD to pour meaning into
my sequence of words. Thank you very kindly.

I suppose you are correct that Humans will screw themselves.

> "Mahipal" wrote:
>
> I still remain defensive since some Idiot tried to label
> Me, and You, as racist on Usenet. It still bothers Me....
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> .... ahahahaha... for crying out loud, Virdy...WHY?...
> You are missing a great opportunity for fun, laughs
> and hilarity. Whenever you get accused of that, you
> quickly check what it was, in your post, that cranked
> the accuser. Then you use that very item, and repeat
> it over and over. It will wind him up and make him
> crank himself ever more... until He see that HE was
> and is the "idiot"....  while you are doing your ROFLs...

I will try make the best of it per your advice. ROFL? Trying.

> "Mahipal" wrote:
>
> really nice post you made in the "Aether is mass" thread.
> <http://tinyurl.com/Aethers-of-SR-GR-and-TOE>
> Still studying the three SR, GR, TOE permutations.

I am especially interested in viable topics that School Rooms
deliberately avoid. Why the sensitivity? Why the hate?!

> hanson wrote:
>
> Thanks, dude. I can see why you are one of the few that
> it resonated with.  It has the same flavor as is yours  in
> <http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/>
> in which it is demonstrated that the step of interpreting
> experimental data to present a 1st model is always
> clouded since there are many ways to skin the cat.
> Models are Models. Reality is Reality and the twain
> will never meet... no matter how much one tries
> to meat and mince them.... .... ahahahaha...

A long time past, I scribbled your observation as follows.

Let X be some arbitrary vector of variables. So...

X_Theory - X_Reality = Error_TR

X_Experiment - X_Reality = Error_ER

Subtracting the two equations, leaves

X_Theory - X_Experiment = Error_TR - Error_ER == Error_TE

or simply

X_Theory - X_Experiment = Error_TE

Note how conveniently that The Reality does not matter.

> Thanks for the laughs, Virdy.... ahahahahanson

People who get meforce, just love the idea. I used to hand out write-
ups all the time. I now run into friends after 10 or 15 years later,
who read it first around 1987, They admiringly greet me saying "me
always changes" in an instant. Sad Nature did not make more such
Individuals. During my School Years, I could not get any one at the
Uni interested. I tried. Still, when I recently visited some of my
professors of old, I got greeted in the crowded hallway, by one of
Them, calling me "The Philosopher" all the while shaking my hand.
Turned many heads. Wonder if that was a compliment?! Holy wtf...

Still it was very nice to be quickly recognized and remembered after
more than a decade had passed. Love great Teachers.

Enjo(y)...
--
Mahipal
http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwai_Chang_Caine

[hanson]

> "Mahipal" Virdy mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
> BTW: Belated Happy Birthday wishes to you for
> your past 74th B'day after. Cheers!
>

---------------

"Mahipal" wrote:
Where did you get the 6-June-1938 date? Just curious I.
>

"hanson" wrote:
I applied your "meforce" interpretation to "mahipal7638"
>
----------------

> "Mahipal" wrote:
> Thanks but 6-June-1938 is not my Birthday. Mine is
> May 12, 1961. So my age is about 52!
>
> hanson wrote:
> Even more Kudos to you, then. Your posts show
> that you have wisdom far beyond your years.

"Mahipal" wrote:
I suppose you are correct that Humans will screw themselves.
>
> "Mahipal" wrote:
> I still remain defensive since some Idiot tried to label
> Me, and You, as racist on Usenet. It still bothers Me....
>
> hanson wrote:
> .... ahahahaha... for crying out loud, Virdy...WHY?...
> You are missing a great opportunity for fun, laughs
> and hilarity. Whenever you get accused of that, you
> quickly check what it was, in your post, that cranked
> the accuser. Then you use that very item, and repeat
> it over and over. It will wind him up and make him
> crank himself ever more... until He see that HE was
> and is the "idiot".... while you are doing your ROFLs...
>

"Mahipal" wrote:
I will try make the best of it per your advice. ROFL? Trying.
>
> "Mahipal" wrote:
> really nice post you made in the "Aether is mass" thread.
> <http://tinyurl.com/Aethers-of-SR-GR-and-TOE>
> Still studying the three SR, GR, TOE permutations.
>

"Mahipal" wrote:
I am especially interested in viable topics that School Rooms
deliberately avoid. Why the sensitivity? Why the hate?!

> hanson wrote:
> Thanks, dude. I can see why you are one of the few that
> it resonated with. It has the same flavor as is yours in
> <http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/>
> in which it is demonstrated that the step of interpreting
> experimental data to present a 1st model is always
> clouded since there are many ways to skin the cat.
> Models are Models. Reality is Reality and the twain
> will never meet... no matter how much one tries
> to meat and mince them.... .... ahahahaha...
>

"Mahipal" wrote:
A long time past, I scribbled your observation as follows.
Let X be some arbitrary vector of variables. So...
X_Theory - X_Reality = Error_TR
X_Experiment - X_Reality = Error_ER
Subtracting the two equations, leaves
X_Theory - X_Experiment = Error_TR - Error_ER == Error_TE
or simply
X_Theory - X_Experiment = Error_TE
Note how conveniently that The Reality does not matter.
>

hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... Good one!, Virdy!... ahahahaha.... Now...
"meforce" the above a bit more by introduction of
Error_TE = Belief_X, wherein X = 1,2,3,4,5 --> oo,
and you'll get to the wisdom of the ancients who said:
"he who seeks, will find" or "he who searches will discover"

>
> Thanks for the laughs, Virdy.... ahahahahanson
>

"Mahipal" wrote:
People who get meforce, just love the idea. I used to hand out write-
ups all the time. I now run into friends after 10 or 15 years later,
who read it first around 1987, They admiringly greet me saying "me
always changes" in an instant. Sad Nature did not make more such
Individuals. During my School Years, I could not get any one at the
Uni interested. I tried. Still, when I recently visited some of my
professors of old, I got greeted in the crowded hallway, by one of
Them, calling me "The Philosopher" all the while shaking my hand.
Turned many heads. Wonder if that was a compliment?! Holy wtf...

Still it was very nice to be quickly recognized and remembered after
more than a decade had passed. Love great Teachers.

Enjo(y)...
--

Mahipal wrote:
<http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwai_Chang_Caine>
wherein it says:
"In the late 19th century China, Kwai Chang Caine
was the orphaned son of an American man and a
Chinese woman."
>
hansoon wrote:
... interesting. KCC must be Tom Potter's son??....

[Mahipal]

On Nov 21, 1:08 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
> > "Mahipal" Virdy mahipal7...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>
> > "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
> > BTW: Belated Happy Birthday wishes to you for
> > your past 74th B'day after. Cheers!
>
> ---------------"Mahipal" wrote:
>
> Where did you get the 6-June-1938 date? Just curious I.
>
> "hanson" wrote:
>
> I applied your "meforce" interpretation to "mahipal7638"

Ah... 7638 is POET in SMS speak. Check your iPhone.

All the while sqrt(7638) = 87.39 truncated.

Amazing, to me at least, that that same 4 digits are recovered in the
first four numbers of its square root. Provide I am allowed the '69'
rotational transformation from 6-to-9. Of course 69 is to YingYang by
visual nature.

http://www.google.com/search?q=ying+yang

Other than integers 0 and 1, I cannot identify any other numbers with
such a square root coincidence. And not for lack of trying. No I would
rather not be satisfied with the notion if I wrote and spoke
everything in Binary, than this condition would be always satisfied.
Such a compromise is not a possibility.

[trim R&H stuff]

Perfect! Exactly why you hanson are always worth the reading.

[trim]

> Still it was very nice to be quickly recognized and remembered after
> more than a decade had passed. Love great Teachers.
>
> Enjo(y)...

> --Mahipal wrote:
>
> <http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwai_Chang_Caine>
> wherein it says:
> "In the late 19th century China, Kwai Chang Caine
> was the orphaned son of an American man and a
> Chinese woman."
>
> hansoon wrote:
>
> ... interesting. KCC must be Tom Potter's son??....

The old Tom's Son Twist... there's a cute Spin!

The real theme is that Kwai Chang Caine loved his Master Teacher so
much that he killed the Emperor's nephew that mindlessly shot to death
KCC Grasshopper's Teacher. A great set of thoughtful shows and no
worthless distracting misdirecting overrated screens dominating CGI
nonsense. Watch me morph now CGI silliness. Such a yawn Modern Media.
Take the pebble from my hand...

[Mahipal]

On Nov 19, 6:58 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

<LordAndroc...@November2012.org> wrote:
> "Mahipal"  wrote in message
>

[trim]

That's a bold comparison! I will surely listen to Delius, Elgar,
Vaughn Williams asap. Accepting your drink wager, since I primarily
prefer Whiskey, I would have to mention that Hindi Music is like
Scotch, per your analogy.

One simple question, why allow me to think that Pink Floyd is
"whatever you are talking about" as if you are unfamiliar with them?
Why mislead me so? Obviously you know of them. Was my capitalization
off or some such?

> > 2) I know I am and have often done so.
>
> Nice.
>
> > 3) I would never voluntarily give another power over me. Politicians may
> > vote for me if they wish. They never do.
>
> I was being eagerly sarcastic about voting at all. Politicians will
> ruin my life, and mine life alone, without me asking for them to do
> so. So considerate They.
> =======================================================
> Sarcasm should be blatant to be effective. In our previous encounter your
> complaint was that I was not specific and threatened to withdraw, so I
> preempted you and withdrew.

Why ever get mad at me?! There's no reason to do that. I rather enjoy
discussing the Universe with you John. Play nice.

[trim]

> In USA many often think, hear, my name is as Verde. Hence the colour
> green is appealing to me. Some Uncles of mine use the string "Birdy"
> in place of Virdy. There's no write answer to phonetics. Overall,
> given your concern, I do have to accept that Racism and Hatred are
> alive and well on Earth. Sad, but so it is. Perhaps I will learn to
> hide my colours on Usenet in the future.
> ===============================================
> Floyd Pink of rock candy (with "Margate" extruded all the way through it)

> cannot be disguised as Green Joe of Opera Winfrey.https://marketplace-images.asos.com/fa/21f3aab9-c587-4a8f-85ae-e919e6...

Nice looking rock candy. Impressive extruded "MARGATE ROCK" writing.
Why can't it be Green though?

> You are forever an Asian Yankee.

For the sake of discussion, if I migrate out of USA tomorrow, a strong
possibility given the recent wave of reverse migrations across Earth,
will I still be this Asian Yankee, because of History? If I just move
South, like to Florida, since I like warmer weather, will I then be a
Asian Confederate?

I am forever sure I am not fond of being labeled in any way at all.

> > 5) I lived in Pittsburgh Pa for 18 years and retired to Florida for two
> > years before returning home to "Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves"
> > but the waves don't obey the rules anymore than I do. So like you I have
> > flown over the waves often and am now younger than I was when I was born,
> > thanks to SR.
>
> Younger than when born? What's your gamma factor?
> ============================================
> Imaginary. The square root of minus one is an operator.
> A single trip on Concorde and one arrives in New York before taking off in

> London.http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img54.gif

> That looks like beta to me, pronounced "vetta" like the Gaelic v in
> "Siobhan".  Unfortunately relativists are so stupid they can't read Greek
> letters.
> While I was in The USA I objected to being called "white" and insisted I was
> an English-American Englishman come to take the colonies back and collect
> the Chinese tea (grown in India) taxes. Strange country, the USA. Full of
> Xtians who want some guy Jesus for a monarch and give up the republican
> democracy.

That's funny. Give me back the tea! I want to take home my colonies
too!

Siobhan is a beautiful name, meaning God's grace. I did look it up but
also had met a nice young waitress who has that name and she shared
its origins. At the same bar from where the blimey Police entrapped me
for my pending DUI charge. Good news, I have got my driving privileges
restored. If I drank only tea, I would not be in this legal mess.
What's funny is, of the strange country this, is they keep drilling
into my head that it's the "Land of the Free" and yet it does not feel
like it. Is that blatant DoubleSpeak or what?! Feels more like a Human
Farm. Always forced to contemplate, what means this Free?

[GogoJF]

In one respect the greatest enemy of man is not another man. We
choose to live in big cities, surrounded by ourselves. Man's biggest
enemy is nature- for nature always threatens our existence- not man.
Or, in another respect, is man the greatest threat to his own
existence? How can one weigh in?

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mahipal" wrote in message
news:06b92f8f-8973-478b...@a6g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

=====================================================
As an erstwhile parent of teenagers I once reluctantly permitted a recording
of some crashing and bashing to be played on my stereo during a party many
years ago. That unpleasant experience is the sum total of my knowledge of
said Pink Rock, and best forgotten.

> > 2) I know I am and have often done so.
>
> Nice.
>
> > 3) I would never voluntarily give another power over me. Politicians may
> > vote for me if they wish. They never do.
>
> I was being eagerly sarcastic about voting at all. Politicians will
> ruin my life, and mine life alone, without me asking for them to do
> so. So considerate They.
> =======================================================
> Sarcasm should be blatant to be effective. In our previous encounter your
> complaint was that I was not specific and threatened to withdraw, so I
> preempted you and withdrew.

Why ever get mad at me?! There's no reason to do that. I rather enjoy
discussing the Universe with you John. Play nice.

=================================================================
I don't get mad, I walk away. I appreciate sarcasm but only if I know it.
And do not presume me to be nice, I have never claimed to be.

[trim]

> In USA many often think, hear, my name is as Verde. Hence the colour
> green is appealing to me. Some Uncles of mine use the string "Birdy"
> in place of Virdy. There's no write answer to phonetics. Overall,
> given your concern, I do have to accept that Racism and Hatred are
> alive and well on Earth. Sad, but so it is. Perhaps I will learn to
> hide my colours on Usenet in the future.
> ===============================================
> Floyd Pink of rock candy (with "Margate" extruded all the way through it)
> cannot be disguised as Green Joe of Opera
> Winfrey.https://marketplace-images.asos.com/fa/21f3aab9-c587-4a8f-85ae-e919e6...

Nice looking rock candy. Impressive extruded "MARGATE ROCK" writing.
Why can't it be Green though?

============================================================
Giuseppe Verde wasn't into rock, he preferred Oprah.

> You are forever an Asian Yankee.

For the sake of discussion, if I migrate out of USA tomorrow, a strong
possibility given the recent wave of reverse migrations across Earth,
will I still be this Asian Yankee, because of History? If I just move
South, like to Florida, since I like warmer weather, will I then be a
Asian Confederate?

I am forever sure I am not fond of being labeled in any way at all.

=======================================================
Can't be helped. I'm labelled a Limey because British sailors ate limes
to avoid vitamin C deficiency and scurvy.
Go to Texas instead, they are more likely to secede from the union than
any other state. Florida is made of retirees, no industry there except golf.

> > 5) I lived in Pittsburgh Pa for 18 years and retired to Florida for two
> > years before returning home to "Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the
> > waves"
> > but the waves don't obey the rules anymore than I do. So like you I have
> > flown over the waves often and am now younger than I was when I was
> > born,
> > thanks to SR.
>
> Younger than when born? What's your gamma factor?
> ============================================
> Imaginary. The square root of minus one is an operator.
> A single trip on Concorde and one arrives in New York before taking off in
> London.http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img54.gif
> That looks like beta to me, pronounced "vetta" like the Gaelic v in
> "Siobhan". Unfortunately relativists are so stupid they can't read Greek
> letters.
> While I was in The USA I objected to being called "white" and insisted I
> was
> an English-American Englishman come to take the colonies back and collect
> the Chinese tea (grown in India) taxes. Strange country, the USA. Full of
> Xtians who want some guy Jesus for a monarch and give up the republican
> democracy.

That's funny. Give me back the tea! I want to take home my colonies
too!

=====================================================
AFAIK it's still at the bottom of Boston harbour. Perhaps it was Japanese
tea.

Siobhan is a beautiful name, meaning God's grace. I did look it up but
also had met a nice young waitress who has that name and she shared
its origins. At the same bar from where the blimey Police entrapped me
for my pending DUI charge. Good news, I have got my driving privileges
restored. If I drank only tea, I would not be in this legal mess.
What's funny is, of the strange country this, is they keep drilling
into my head that it's the "Land of the Free" and yet it does not feel
like it. Is that blatant DoubleSpeak or what?! Feels more like a Human
Farm. Always forced to contemplate, what means this Free?

===================================================
Freedom of speech is guaranteed in the bill of rights. All men are born
free and equal except African slaves. All women are equal but Hillary
Clinton is more equal than others.
< http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2033771,00.html>
Yankee squaw speak with forked tongue.

[Mahipal]

On Nov 21, 8:53 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 21, 7:20 pm, Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 19, 6:58 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

[trim]

>
> > > Younger than when born? What's your gamma factor?
> > > ============================================
> > > Imaginary. The square root of minus one is an operator.
> > > A single trip on Concorde and one arrives in New York before taking off in
> > > London.http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img54.gif
> > > That looks like beta to me, pronounced "vetta" like the Gaelic v in
> > > "Siobhan".  Unfortunately relativists are so stupid they can't read Greek
> > > letters.
> > > While I was in The USA I objected to being called "white" and insisted I was
> > > an English-American Englishman come to take the colonies back and collect
> > > the Chinese tea (grown in India) taxes. Strange country, the USA. Full of
> > > Xtians who want some guy Jesus for a monarch and give up the republican
> > > democracy.
>
> > That's funny. Give me back the tea! I want to take home my colonies
> > too!
>
> > Siobhan is a beautiful name, meaning God's grace. I did look it up but
> > also had met a nice young waitress who has that name and she shared
> > its origins. At the same bar from where the blimey Police entrapped me
> > for my pending DUI charge. Good news, I have got my driving privileges
> > restored. If I drank only tea, I would not be in this legal mess.
> > What's funny is, of the strange country this, is they keep drilling
> > into my head that it's the "Land of the Free" and yet it does not feel
> > like it. Is that blatant DoubleSpeak or what?! Feels more like a Human
> > Farm. Always forced to contemplate, what means this Free?

[trim]

> In one respect the greatest enemy of man is not another man.  We
> choose to live in big cities, surrounded by ourselves.  Man's biggest
> enemy is nature- for nature always threatens our existence- not man.
> Or, in another respect, is man the greatest threat to his own
> existence?  How can one weigh in?

You ask very difficult questions. Taking a look at all the many wars
man has waged, in the hopes of reducing population count, to claim all
the land and resources for the standing few -- may yield a clue.

First, Natural Disasters have not killed as many men as have other
men. Even the Tsunami of 2004 killed like only 300,000 bathing
beauties. Add up all the humans killed by Nature over time. Then add
up all the humans killed in the name of war. Second, I don't have
access to these numbers, perhaps someone else here can provide them.
Compare these two counts. Point of reference... in WW2 alone... nearly
56 million men killed. Ho hum.

The argument that the population count is too high to be sustainable,
so let's have WW1 and WW2 and so on is fairly weak. Given that the
Earth sustains nearly 7 billion today. Imo, btw, yawn... Poverty is
manufactured.

I weigh in that Man is the greatest threat to his own Existence. ROFL.

Your take, any you? What do you GogoJF think?

Fwiw, thanks hanson that ROFL is per your advice.

Enjo(y)...
--
Mahipal
http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

I sure hope, cross my fingers, my capitalizations are Right?!

[Mahipal]

On Nov 22, 2:51 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

<LordAndroc...@November2012.org> wrote:
> "Mahipal"  wrote in message
>
> On Nov 19, 6:58 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
>

[trim]

> One simple question, why allow me to think that Pink Floyd is
> "whatever you are talking about" as if you are unfamiliar with them?
> Why mislead me so? Obviously you know of them. Was my capitalization
> off or some such?
> =====================================================
> As an erstwhile parent of teenagers I once reluctantly permitted a recording
> of some crashing and bashing to be played on my stereo during a party many
> years ago. That unpleasant experience is the sum total of my knowledge of
> said Pink Rock, and best forgotten.

Pink Floyd is not your Pink Rock. Let's just agree to that much.

Surely there is bad music. Good is rare. My three teens, fortunately,
always use headphones. I hear close to nothing. They must think it's
music being played. Any guidance I give them, pretty much falls on
deaf ears. When your own children give you mocking looks, you have to
wonder what power the Social Media, Schools, Peer Pressure, and
Marketing Forces brain wash them all so completely.

Don't listen to your old tired has-been only to be forgotten parents?!
What's wrong with you! Be cool. Only The State loves you best! We love
owning you Son. Trust Us. Hear some crap to be cool Cool COOL. Ignore
Thy Parents. But be polite.

[trim]

> Why ever get mad at me?! There's no reason to do that. I rather enjoy
> discussing the Universe with you John. Play nice.
> =================================================================
> I don't get mad, I walk away. I appreciate sarcasm but only if I know it.
> And do not presume me to be nice, I have never claimed to be.

Understood, and mad was a poor choice of word by me.

[trim]

> Nice looking rock candy. Impressive extruded "MARGATE ROCK" writing.
> Why can't it be Green though?
> ============================================================
> Giuseppe Verde wasn't into rock, he preferred Oprah.

Opera I can listen too, don't even want to type the five letter string
that you've written. Lord, I suspect your keyboard has been hijacked
by autocorrect. Look behind you. Be safe.

> > You are forever an Asian Yankee.
>
> For the sake of discussion, if I migrate out of USA tomorrow, a strong
> possibility given the recent wave of reverse migrations across Earth,
> will I still be this Asian Yankee, because of History? If I just move
> South, like to Florida, since I like warmer weather, will I then be a
> Asian Confederate?
>
> I am forever sure I am not fond of being labeled in any way at all.
> =======================================================
> Can't be helped. I'm labelled a Limey because British sailors ate limes
> to avoid vitamin C deficiency and scurvy.
> Go to Texas instead, they are more likely to secede from the union than
> any other state. Florida is made of retirees, no industry there except golf.

It's golf and tennis weather in Florida. I could live with that.

[trim]

> That's funny. Give me back the tea! I want to take home my colonies
> too!
> =====================================================
> AFAIK it's still at the bottom of Boston harbour. Perhaps it was Japanese
> tea.

Tea is biodegradable. It's there only in spirit. But you knew that.

> Siobhan is a beautiful name, meaning God's grace. I did look it up but
> also had met a nice young waitress who has that name and she shared
> its origins. At the same bar from where the blimey Police entrapped me
> for my pending DUI charge. Good news, I have got my driving privileges
> restored. If I drank only tea, I would not be in this legal mess.
> What's funny is, of the strange country this, is they keep drilling
> into my head that it's the "Land of the Free" and yet it does not feel
> like it. Is that blatant DoubleSpeak or what?! Feels more like a Human
> Farm. Always forced to contemplate, what means this Free?
>
> ===================================================
> Freedom of speech is guaranteed in the bill of rights. All men are born
> free and equal except African slaves. All women are equal but Hillary
> Clinton is more equal than others.
> <http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2033771,00.html>
> Yankee squaw speak with forked tongue.
>
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

The Bill of Rights? Is all capitalization universally at risk
suddenly?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/22/cop-quits-assassinate-obama_n_2175289.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics

same as http://tinyurl.com/bls9cvd which reinforces what I've
expressed before... beware of Law Enforcement. Beware of Job
Enforcement as well.

Availability of Freedom of Speech is highly suspect even within the
USA let alone in Countries that "We the People" are far Far FAR above.
Many an unemployed person learns ipso facto, as they're being escorted
out the door, for having been overheard by the coffee machine, water
cooler, whatever... ykwim, that there's really no FoS in any private
corporation. Technically FoS is just available within Government
buildings. Cough cough... cough. BS Bs bs.

Now there's FoS surveillance even closer to our fingertips. Gay HVAC
will get a kick, the out of the closet experience kind, from this
article at http://tinyurl.com/9wn359c which is the same as

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/technology/in-search-engine-results-a-peek-at-what-we-wonder.html?_r=0&adxnnl=1&pagewanted=2&adxnnlx=1353602580-PTcIe5xo0YstQ5kSkRQuqQ

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mahipal" wrote in message
news:b940b75a-e7ad-43fc...@l7g2000vbj.googlegroups.com...

On Nov 22, 2:51 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
<LordAndroc...@November2012.org> wrote:
> "Mahipal" wrote in message
>
> On Nov 19, 6:58 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
>
[trim]

> One simple question, why allow me to think that Pink Floyd is
> "whatever you are talking about" as if you are unfamiliar with them?
> Why mislead me so? Obviously you know of them. Was my capitalization
> off or some such?
> =====================================================
> As an erstwhile parent of teenagers I once reluctantly permitted a
> recording
> of some crashing and bashing to be played on my stereo during a party many
> years ago. That unpleasant experience is the sum total of my knowledge of
> said Pink Rock, and best forgotten.

Pink Floyd is not your Pink Rock. Let's just agree to that much.

==================================================
I can neither agree nor disagree, I merely related to you the extent of my
knowledge
of your fucking ugly crap because you asked and which I said was best
forgotten.
<trimming your commercial plug for the crap you like, I'm not fucking
interested
in your noisy pink shit>

[trim]

> Why ever get mad at me?! There's no reason to do that. I rather enjoy
> discussing the Universe with you John. Play nice.
> =================================================================
> I don't get mad, I walk away. I appreciate sarcasm but only if I know it.
> And do not presume me to be nice, I have never claimed to be.

Understood, and mad was a poor choice of word by me.

[trim]

> Nice looking rock candy. Impressive extruded "MARGATE ROCK" writing.
> Why can't it be Green though?
> ============================================================
> Giuseppe Verde wasn't into rock, he preferred Oprah.

Opera I can listen too, don't even want to type the five letter string
that you've written. Lord, I suspect your keyboard has been hijacked
by autocorrect. Look behind you. Be safe.

=================================================
Egads! I wrote earlier (which you snipped)

"Floyd Pink of rock candy (with "Margate" extruded all the way through it)
cannot be disguised as Green Joe of Opera Winfrey"

Virdy - Verde - Giuseppe - Joe Green - Opera - Oprah. YOU started the play
on
words, I suspect your brain has been hijacked by gottasnip.

> > You are forever an Asian Yankee.
>
> For the sake of discussion, if I migrate out of USA tomorrow, a strong
> possibility given the recent wave of reverse migrations across Earth,
> will I still be this Asian Yankee, because of History? If I just move
> South, like to Florida, since I like warmer weather, will I then be a
> Asian Confederate?
>
> I am forever sure I am not fond of being labeled in any way at all.
> =======================================================
> Can't be helped. I'm labelled a Limey because British sailors ate limes
> to avoid vitamin C deficiency and scurvy.
> Go to Texas instead, they are more likely to secede from the union than
> any other state. Florida is made of retirees, no industry there except
> golf.

It's golf and tennis weather in Florida. I could live with that.

===================================================
It's golf and tennis weather in Texas. You could live with that too. <shrug>

[trim]

> That's funny. Give me back the tea! I want to take home my colonies
> too!
> =====================================================
> AFAIK it's still at the bottom of Boston harbour. Perhaps it was Japanese
> tea.

Tea is biodegradable. It's there only in spirit. But you knew that.

=======================================================
So are taxes.

> Siobhan is a beautiful name, meaning God's grace. I did look it up but
> also had met a nice young waitress who has that name and she shared
> its origins. At the same bar from where the blimey Police entrapped me
> for my pending DUI charge. Good news, I have got my driving privileges
> restored. If I drank only tea, I would not be in this legal mess.
> What's funny is, of the strange country this, is they keep drilling
> into my head that it's the "Land of the Free" and yet it does not feel
> like it. Is that blatant DoubleSpeak or what?! Feels more like a Human
> Farm. Always forced to contemplate, what means this Free?
>
> ===================================================
> Freedom of speech is guaranteed in the bill of rights. All men are born
> free and equal except African slaves. All women are equal but Hillary
> Clinton is more equal than others.
> <http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2033771,00.html>
> Yankee squaw speak with forked tongue.
>
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

The Bill of Rights? Is all capitalization universally at risk
suddenly?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/22/cop-quits-assassinate-obama_n_2175289.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics

same as http://tinyurl.com/bls9cvd which reinforces what I've
expressed before... beware of Law Enforcement. Beware of Job
Enforcement as well.

======================================================
And you want to go to Florida for the weather?

[Mahipal]

On Nov 22, 2:23 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

Ok. There's no need to agree on tastes. Though I would love to, I
really do not work plugging for Pink Floyd. Besides we were discussing
our teenagers and experiences with them.

>
> [trim]
>
> > Why ever get mad at me?! There's no reason to do that. I rather enjoy
> > discussing the Universe with you John. Play nice.
> > =================================================================
> > I don't get mad, I walk away. I appreciate sarcasm but only if I know it.
> > And do not presume me to be nice, I have never claimed to be.
>
> Understood, and mad was a poor choice of word by me.
>
> [trim]
>
> > Nice looking rock candy. Impressive extruded "MARGATE ROCK" writing.
> > Why can't it be Green though?
> > ============================================================
> > Giuseppe Verde wasn't into rock, he preferred Oprah.
>
> Opera I can listen too, don't even want to type the five letter string
> that you've written. Lord, I suspect your keyboard has been hijacked
> by autocorrect. Look behind you. Be safe.
> =================================================
> Egads! I wrote earlier (which you snipped)

A mere polite trim is no snip. We've discussed beyond the trims by
now.

> "Floyd Pink of rock candy (with "Margate" extruded all the way through it)
> cannot be disguised as Green Joe of Opera Winfrey"
> Virdy - Verde - Giuseppe - Joe Green - Opera - Oprah. YOU started the play
> on
> words, I suspect your brain has been hijacked by gottasnip.

Very funny play on words. I get it, I think. I still cannot type the
end word in that sequence. Word play games existed before I was born.
Used to Gettting Punnished daily in every Media manifestation. As if
that's the only form of joking modern journalists and comedians --
perhaps the two are one and the same behind the curtains -- available
to reach and keep Audience Kind.

John do not take most trimming, especially mine, as rude snipping. You
erroneously called john, in another thread, a cretin after he had
liked your response by posting "Perfect!" regards your words. Your
reactions are staged to be confrontational, even where none is
required? Know your friends despite the abundance of abusive
discussion killing UseNutters just waiting, at their fancy latest
greatest Black Friday cheap bought keyboards, to pounce.

> > > You are forever an Asian Yankee.
>
> > For the sake of discussion, if I migrate out of USA tomorrow, a strong
> > possibility given the recent wave of reverse migrations across Earth,
> > will I still be this Asian Yankee, because of History? If I just move
> > South, like to Florida, since I like warmer weather, will I then be a
> > Asian Confederate?
>
> > I am forever sure I am not fond of being labeled in any way at all.
> > =======================================================
> > Can't be helped. I'm labelled a Limey because British sailors ate limes
> > to avoid vitamin C deficiency and scurvy.
> > Go to Texas instead, they are more likely to secede from the union than
> > any other state. Florida is made of retirees, no industry there except
> > golf.
>
> It's golf and tennis weather in Florida. I could live with that.
> ===================================================
> It's golf and tennis weather in Texas. You could live with that too. <shrug>

Sure, Italy or France would be nice too. London weather, not so
suitable, the whole year round. Presently I remain grounded in
Maryland.

> [trim]
>
> > That's funny. Give me back the tea! I want to take home my colonies
> > too!
> > =====================================================
> > AFAIK it's still at the bottom of Boston harbour. Perhaps it was Japanese
> > tea.
>
> Tea is biodegradable. It's there only in spirit. But you knew that.
> =======================================================
> So are taxes.

Taxes may readily be in coins.

> > Siobhan is a beautiful name, meaning God's grace. I did look it up but
> > also had met a nice young waitress who has that name and she shared
> > its origins. At the same bar from where the blimey Police entrapped me
> > for my pending DUI charge. Good news, I have got my driving privileges
> > restored. If I drank only tea, I would not be in this legal mess.
> > What's funny is, of the strange country this, is they keep drilling
> > into my head that it's the "Land of the Free" and yet it does not feel
> > like it. Is that blatant DoubleSpeak or what?! Feels more like a Human
> > Farm. Always forced to contemplate, what means this Free?
>
> > ===================================================
> > Freedom of speech is guaranteed in the bill of rights. All men are born
> > free and equal except African slaves. All women are equal but Hillary
> > Clinton is more equal than others.
> > <http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2033771,00.html>
> > Yankee squaw speak with forked tongue.
>
> > -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> > Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
>
> The Bill of Rights? Is all capitalization universally at risk
> suddenly?
>

> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/22/cop-quits-assassinate-obama_...
>
> same ashttp://tinyurl.com/bls9cvdwhich reinforces what I've

> expressed before... beware of Law Enforcement. Beware of Job
> Enforcement as well.
> ======================================================
> And you want to go to Florida for the weather?

Well, the news article just happened to be in Today's Media.

[trim, my words only. Ok? Ok.]

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mahipal" wrote in message
news:dcdef550-0647-444f...@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

======================================================
There I do disagree.
"Pink Floyd is not your Pink Rock" is NOT discussing teenagers, it is an
attempt to discuss your ugly pink noise, whether you call it rock or floyd.

>
> [trim]
>
> > Why ever get mad at me?! There's no reason to do that. I rather enjoy
> > discussing the Universe with you John. Play nice.
> > =================================================================
> > I don't get mad, I walk away. I appreciate sarcasm but only if I know
> > it.
> > And do not presume me to be nice, I have never claimed to be.
>
> Understood, and mad was a poor choice of word by me.
>
> [trim]
>
> > Nice looking rock candy. Impressive extruded "MARGATE ROCK" writing.
> > Why can't it be Green though?
> > ============================================================
> > Giuseppe Verde wasn't into rock, he preferred Oprah.
>
> Opera I can listen too, don't even want to type the five letter string
> that you've written. Lord, I suspect your keyboard has been hijacked
> by autocorrect. Look behind you. Be safe.
> =================================================
> Egads! I wrote earlier (which you snipped)

A mere polite trim is no snip. We've discussed beyond the trims by
now.

============================================
I was merely stating fact, not commenting on your etiquette.

> "Floyd Pink of rock candy (with "Margate" extruded all the way through it)
> cannot be disguised as Green Joe of Opera Winfrey"
> Virdy - Verde - Giuseppe - Joe Green - Opera - Oprah. YOU started the play
> on
> words, I suspect your brain has been hijacked by gottasnip.

Very funny play on words. I get it, I think. I still cannot type the
end word in that sequence.

====================================
gottasnip = got to snip, an often impulsive need to remove words
unnecessarily (impossible on paper without censorship) and a new
practice made possible only by the computer.
In days of old when letters were bold and postage was invented,
Man sent mail on the back of a snail and had to be contented.

Word play games existed before I was born.
Used to Gettting Punnished daily in every Media manifestation. As if
that's the only form of joking modern journalists and comedians --
perhaps the two are one and the same behind the curtains -- available
to reach and keep Audience Kind.

John do not take most trimming, especially mine, as rude snipping. You
erroneously called john, in another thread, a cretin after he had
liked your response by posting "Perfect!" regards your words. Your
reactions are staged to be confrontational, even where none is
required?

=========================================================
Perhaps if you cited the "Perfect!" post I might see what point you are
making, after years of cynical experience with usenet I probably read it as
sarcasm. You've seen through me, I am confrontational. Here is my take on
snipping (or trimming as you prefer to call it). When a topic is exhausted
and agreement is reached (or agreement to differ, as we must when it turns
to mere opinion such as your pink flood) then snip, the topic is closed.
Differing opinions by their very nature cannot be resolved to either party's
satisfaction. However, it is often the case (and I'm not accusing you of
this) that some newsgroup contributor makes a non-factual opinion as though
it were fact that is so outrageous I'll snip anything following it without
bothering to read the rest and challenge him immediately. For example: "The
universe is finite", or "aether permeates all of space", or "God made
everything". Or I may killfile him immediately, depending on my mood. But
for the most part, I do not snip, I'm open to discussion either to have my
own mind changed or to change the mind of the other correspondent. There are
occasions when I'll say "Yes, that's a very good point, I hadn't thought of
that" and learn something. For example, Henry Wilson pointed out an apparent
time contraction and expansion which I had previously overlooked. See if
this fascinates you and try to explain it:
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif

Know your friends despite the abundance of abusive
discussion killing UseNutters just waiting, at their fancy latest
greatest Black Friday cheap bought keyboards, to pounce.

> > > You are forever an Asian Yankee.
>
> > For the sake of discussion, if I migrate out of USA tomorrow, a strong
> > possibility given the recent wave of reverse migrations across Earth,
> > will I still be this Asian Yankee, because of History? If I just move
> > South, like to Florida, since I like warmer weather, will I then be a
> > Asian Confederate?
>
> > I am forever sure I am not fond of being labeled in any way at all.
> > =======================================================
> > Can't be helped. I'm labelled a Limey because British sailors ate limes
> > to avoid vitamin C deficiency and scurvy.
> > Go to Texas instead, they are more likely to secede from the union than
> > any other state. Florida is made of retirees, no industry there except
> > golf.
>
> It's golf and tennis weather in Florida. I could live with that.
> ===================================================
> It's golf and tennis weather in Texas. You could live with that too.
> <shrug>

Sure, Italy or France would be nice too. London weather, not so
suitable, the whole year round. Presently I remain grounded in
Maryland.

=================================================
I found the contrasting weather (cold in winter, hot in summer) of the
North Eastern USA preferable to the constant heat of Florida, where there
are only three seasons: summer, rainy season, summer, short spring.
London is even worse, the temperature can be 40 degrees in January
or July and the sun not appear for weeks at a time. But I'm not here
for the weather or golf or tennis, I have an electric wheelchair and a
free bus pass, the buses have electrically operated wheelchair ramps.

> [trim]
>
> > That's funny. Give me back the tea! I want to take home my colonies
> > too!
> > =====================================================
> > AFAIK it's still at the bottom of Boston harbour. Perhaps it was
> > Japanese
> > tea.
>
> Tea is biodegradable. It's there only in spirit. But you knew that.
> =======================================================
> So are taxes.

Taxes may readily be in coins.

=========================================================
Pay up and you can collect your tea, it grows on trees (well, bushes).

[Musatov]

On Nov 23, 11:19 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

> > same ashttp://tinyurl.com/bls9cvdwhichreinforces what I've

> > expressed before... beware of Law Enforcement. Beware of Job
> > Enforcement as well.
> > ======================================================
> > And you want to go to Florida for the weather?
>
> Well, the news article just happened to be in Today's Media.
>
> [trim, my words only. Ok? Ok.]
>
> Enjo(y)...
> --

> Mahipalhttp://xmahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

[Mahipal]

On Nov 23, 6:07 pm, Musatov <marty.musa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 11:19 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"<LordAndroc...@November2012.org> wrote:
> > "Mahipal"  wrote in message
>

What's your age John? Perhaps the music one is exposed to is
influenced by age.

No not the word gottasnip. The word after Opera. Must not type it.

Yes, your "years of cynical experience with usenet" must have
conditioned your behavior. That's what keeps you always on guard and
confrontational. The thread I was speaking of is "Making a Sphere" but
no matter, since you mean what you say.

The gif you link to above, I have seen it before. Other than it has a
nice female familiarity, I do not know what to make of it. The y-axis
m must be for minutes? Not enough information, as is. What is the
source of time contraction and expansion?

> > Know your friends despite the abundance of abusive
> > discussion killing UseNutters just waiting, at their fancy latest
> > greatest Black Friday cheap bought keyboards, to pounce.

[trim]

> > Sure, Italy or France would be nice too. London weather, not so
> > suitable, the whole year round. Presently I remain grounded in
> > Maryland.
> > =================================================
> > I found the contrasting weather (cold in winter, hot in summer) of the
> > North Eastern USA preferable to the constant heat of Florida, where there
> > are only three seasons: summer, rainy season, summer, short spring.
> > London is even worse, the temperature can be 40 degrees in January
> > or July and the sun not appear for weeks at a time. But I'm not here
> > for the weather or golf or tennis, I have an electric wheelchair and a
> > free bus pass, the buses have electrically operated wheelchair ramps.

Why are you in a wheelchair?

> > > [trim]
>
> > > > That's funny. Give me back the tea! I want to take home my colonies
> > > > too!
> > > > =====================================================
> > > > AFAIK it's still at the bottom of Boston harbour. Perhaps it was
> > > > Japanese
> > > > tea.
>
> > > Tea is biodegradable. It's there only in spirit. But you knew that.
> > > =======================================================
> > > So are taxes.
>
> > Taxes may readily be in coins.
> > =========================================================
> > Pay up and you can collect your tea, it grows on trees (well, bushes).

I would rather collect in Moonshine and Scotch.

[trim]

> > [trim, my words only. Ok? Ok.]
>
> > Enjo(y)...
> > --
> > Mahipalhttp://xmahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/

I see Musatov went through a lot of trouble just to place an x in my
URL.

[tj Frazir]

Plant mass is up.
co2 is down.
A grow day is longer because te leap second.
leap second is 3 seconds pr year.

14000 years ago was a 14 hour day.
3600 years ago 21 hour day 360 day year.
100 years ago a day was 5 mins shorter.

More sun is less ice and more sunis more grow time and the earths
plants grow on more ground.

My co2 meter has dipped to 269 ppm a few times. 270 ppm is normal.

cutting down 1/2 the trees dont make the plant mass per year any less.
The other 1/2 grows twice to 3 times faster.

4 billion acres of farms grow 5 trillion ton of plant mass per year
using up an extra 10 trillion ton co2 per year for 100 years as extra
grow time is added.

Mans 15 billion ton co2 dont feed the planets 45 trillionton of plants
for 1 minut

http://community.webtv.net/GravityPhysics/WhaleSteamEngineA

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mahipal" wrote in message
news:9f7d3147-a341-43c4...@d9g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...

On Nov 23, 6:07 pm, Musatov <marty.musa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 11:19 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of
> Medway"<LordAndroc...@November2012.org> wrote:
> > "Mahipal" wrote in message
>
[trim]

What's your age John? Perhaps the music one is exposed to is
influenced by age.

=====================================================
40 +/- 70 which anyone can guess at.
It's none of your business to ask personal questions on a public forum. Any
information I disclose about myself I give voluntarily and not under
interrogation. "Lord Androcles" is of course a pseudonym. "John" was an
error in a private email to a trusted correspondent who was not trustworthy,
but eggs cannot be unscrambled. Beware identity theft.


> > > [trim]

> > > "Floyd Pink of rock candy (with "Margate" extruded all the way through
> > > it)
> > > cannot be disguised as Green Joe of Opera Winfrey"
> > > Virdy - Verde - Giuseppe - Joe Green - Opera - Oprah. YOU started the
> > > play
> > > on
> > > words, I suspect your brain has been hijacked by gottasnip.
>
> > Very funny play on words. I get it, I think. I still cannot type the
> > end word in that sequence.
> > ====================================
> > gottasnip = got to snip, an often impulsive need to remove words
> > unnecessarily (impossible on paper without censorship) and a new
> > practice made possible only by the computer.
> > In days of old when letters were bold and postage was invented,
> > Man sent mail on the back of a snail and had to be contented.

No not the word gottasnip. The word after Opera. Must not type it.

=========================================
WinFREE?

================================================
Only my usenet behaviour. When in Rome do as the Romans do. When
at home do as the homans do.

That's what keeps you always on guard and
confrontational. The thread I was speaking of is "Making a Sphere" but
no matter, since you mean what you say.

The gif you link to above, I have seen it before. Other than it has a
nice female familiarity, I do not know what to make of it. The y-axis
m must be for minutes? Not enough information, as is. What is the
source of time contraction and expansion?

=====================================================
Excellent. Now we're communicating, you only had to ask. I make no
assumptions as to anyone's knowledge as it may appear patronising and
offensive. Now I know to what extent I need to explain.
The source of the gif is the British Astronomical Society and V 1493 Aql is
a star which suddenly brightened in 1999. Time is indicated on the
horizontal axis in months during the year 1999, and m stands for magnitude.
Because magnitude is logarithmic, a magnitude change of 6 is enormous, it
will grab the attention of any stargazer the moment he sees it and he'll
report it around the world.
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitude_(astronomy) >
Other stargazers will studiously watch it until they lose interest. In this
age of streetlights and television stargazing has lost its popularity, but
our ancestors had little else to do during the long winter nights and were
very adept at it. It is said that three wise men (probably from India,
Bangladesh and Afghanistan) visited Bethlehem bearing gifts of gold,
frankincense and myrrh were guided by stellar navigation, although that
story has become somewhat corrupted after being retold to children every
year for 2000 years.
So... the gif is very real data, not some tripe out of a text book.
Such an event is commonly thought to be cataclysmic. The star explodes. The
ancients would suddenly see star when none was noticed before and call it
a "new" star or nova.
Okay, but I'm a scientist. I have to ask, why would it explode TWICE?
That curve is logarithmic, the second peak is also huge.
Is there some other simple explanation? And I'm a stickler for Ockham's
Razor, too. The simplest explanation is probably the right one.
Give it some thought, and in our next exciting episode we'll discuss the
matter further.

[trim]

Why are you in a wheelchair?

============================
Arthritic ankle (broken when I was keeping healthy riding a bicycle in
Florida and got hit by truck driven by an uninsured driver while she was
tending her squealing infant), aortal aneurysm, chronic obstructive
pulmonary disease. No more golf, tennis or bicycles for me. Medical
insurance being what it is in the USA, I take advantage of the NHS and
disability living allowance that I paid for in my youth by living in Merry
Old England.


> > > [trim]

> > Pay up and you can collect your tea, it grows on trees (well, bushes).

I would rather collect in Moonshine and Scotch.

=========================================
Coconut fenni from Goa? I was given a tour of their stills when I was there
in '83, that stuff is real 'shine. I was there as part of a team installing
a
Sea Harrier Flight Simulator for the Indian Navy. Shared the same hotel with
a Russian crew doing their thing on the other side of the airport. They
didn't spend any time in the bar the way we did. The guy on the hotel desk
was married to an English girl who enjoyed having us there, she told me
the Russians had turned over their passports to the hotel (legal
requirement for everyone) and every one of them had the same date of
issue, it was their first excursion away from the Motherland. They didn't
mix with the locals either, probably couldn't speak English. No Kingfisher
beer for them and that Fenni shine was too strong for me. Couldn't get
Scotch.



[trim]

I see Musatov went through a lot of trouble just to place an x in my
URL.

=====================================================
Perhaps he wanted to vote for you.

-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of

[Mahipal]

On Nov 23, 10:31 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

<LordAndroc...@November2012.org> wrote:
> "Mahipal"  wrote in message
>
> news:9f7d3147-a341-43c4...@d9g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>
> On Nov 23, 6:07 pm, Musatov <marty.musa...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Nov 23, 11:19 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of
> > Medway"<LordAndroc...@November2012.org> wrote:
> > > "Mahipal"  wrote in message
>
> [trim]
>
> What's your age John? Perhaps the music one is exposed to is
> influenced by age.
> =====================================================
> 40 +/- 70 which anyone can guess at.
> It's none of your business to ask personal questions on a public forum. Any
> information I disclose about myself I give voluntarily and not under
> interrogation. "Lord Androcles" is of course a pseudonym. "John" was an
> error in a private email to a trusted correspondent who was not trustworthy,
> but eggs cannot be unscrambled. Beware identity theft.

John, look... You and I go into a bar.... I know it sounds like the
beginnings of good joke... but there we are greeting... hello hello
yaddi yadda shaking hands... you're savouring your scotch... and I
mine. Then I pause, look at you, and ask how old are you? What you
going to do? Jump and thrash at me over and over again as if I asked
you if you were old enough to drink?! For one, I can see an
approximate age of you on your face. In a bar We, first of all.

> > > > [trim]
> > > > "Floyd Pink of rock candy (with "Margate" extruded all the way through
> > > > it)
> > > > cannot be disguised as Green Joe of Opera Winfrey"
> > > > Virdy - Verde - Giuseppe - Joe Green - Opera - Oprah. YOU started the
> > > > play
> > > > on
> > > > words, I suspect your brain has been hijacked by gottasnip.
>
> > > Very funny play on words. I get it, I think. I still cannot type the
> > > end word in that sequence.
> > > ====================================
> > > gottasnip  = got to snip, an often impulsive need to remove words
> > > unnecessarily  (impossible on paper without censorship) and a new
> > > practice made possible only by the computer.
> > > In days of old when letters were bold and postage was invented,
> > > Man sent mail on the back of a snail and had to be contented.
>
> No not the word gottasnip. The word after Opera. Must not type it.
> =========================================
> WinFREE?

Yes. Must fight with all force not to type that five letter string.

That's fair and understandable. At least, at first, err on the side of
politeness until someone earns your scorn. Why use the same size fits
all hammer on all Romans -- human or otherwise?

> That's what keeps you always on guard and
> confrontational. The thread I was speaking of is "Making a Sphere" but
> no matter, since you mean what you say.
>
> The  gif you link to above, I have seen it before. Other than it has a
> nice female familiarity, I do not know what to make of it. The y-axis
> m must be for minutes? Not enough information, as is. What is the
> source of time contraction and expansion?
> =====================================================
> Excellent. Now we're communicating, you only had to ask. I make no
> assumptions as to anyone's knowledge as it may appear patronising and
> offensive. Now I know to what extent I need to explain.
> The source of the gif is the British Astronomical Society and V 1493 Aql is
> a star which suddenly brightened in 1999. Time is indicated on the
> horizontal axis in months during the year 1999, and m stands for magnitude.
> Because magnitude is logarithmic, a magnitude change of 6 is enormous, it
> will grab the attention of any stargazer the moment he sees it and he'll
> report it around the world.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitude_(astronomy) >

Given your additional details, I read this article
http://iopscience.iop.org/1538-3881/128/1/405/fulltext/204071.text.html
and it has a duplicate, more detailed, graph of the same brightness
over time data.

> Other stargazers will studiously watch it until they lose interest. In this
> age of streetlights and television stargazing has lost its popularity, but
> our ancestors had little else to do during the long winter nights and were
> very adept at it. It is said that three wise men (probably from India,
> Bangladesh and Afghanistan) visited Bethlehem bearing gifts of gold,
> frankincense and myrrh were guided by stellar navigation, although that
> story has become somewhat corrupted after being retold to children every
> year for 2000 years.

Am familiar with this fable.

> So... the gif is very real data, not some tripe out of a text book.
> Such an event is commonly thought to be cataclysmic. The star explodes. The
> ancients would suddenly see star when none was noticed before and call it
> a "new" star or nova.
> Okay, but I'm a scientist. I have to ask, why would it explode TWICE?

Have not found (i.e., read) a good explanation yet. No conclusive
cause provided in the iop link concerning the TWICE peak.

> That curve is logarithmic, the second peak is also huge.
> Is there some other simple explanation? And I'm a stickler for Ockham's
> Razor, too. The simplest explanation is probably the right one.
> Give it some thought, and in our next exciting episode we'll discuss the
> matter further.

"It is probable that the secondary outburst apparent in the light
curve was due to an additional but slow increase in the material being
expelled from the surface of the white dwarf." -- iop link.

I would search for Henry Wilson but Google Search on and of Usenet is
really Really REALLY atrocious. Arrgh. Oy the frustration of bad SW
apps.

My favourite, btw, astronomy book is authored by a professor, likely
retired now, from The Department of Physics and Astronomy at the
University of Leicester . I cannot locate my copy of the book
presently. I do remember highlighting 80%+ of the writing. After which
my friends and I used to joke it would've been less work to highlight
the non-interesting parts. Now I can't recall the author's name. It
will come to me.

> [trim]
>
> Why are you in a wheelchair?
> ============================
> Arthritic ankle (broken when I was keeping healthy riding a bicycle in
> Florida and got hit by truck driven by an uninsured driver while she was
> tending her squealing infant), aortal aneurysm, chronic obstructive
> pulmonary disease. No more golf, tennis or bicycles for me. Medical
> insurance being what it is in the USA, I take advantage of the NHS and
> disability living allowance that I paid for in my youth by living in Merry
> Old England.

That's very bad luck. I feel for you. Good you have Merry Old England.
Consider this, in that past 3 USA weeks, two pedestrians have been
killed by hit and run incidents near my city. One, 3 weeks ago or so,
a 14 year old girl student, the second, yesterday, a 52 year old lady.
In both cases the drivers were not charged and not even detained by
Law Enforcement. Me, I drank at the bar, drove safely home, did not
jerk off (Pulp Fiction) ... still had my license suspended and am
still dealing with the law's judges. Makes me think I should've run
someone over instead. Oy.

> > > > [trim]
> > > Pay up and you can collect your tea, it grows on trees (well, bushes).
>
> I would rather collect in Moonshine and Scotch.
> =========================================
> Coconut fenni from Goa? I was given a tour of their stills when I was there
> in '83, that stuff is real 'shine.  I was there as part of a team installing
> a
> Sea Harrier Flight Simulator for the Indian Navy. Shared the same hotel with
> a Russian crew doing their thing on the other side of the airport. They
> didn't spend any time in the bar the way we did. The guy on the hotel desk
> was married to an English girl who enjoyed having us there, she told me
> the Russians had turned over their passports to the hotel (legal
> requirement for everyone) and every one of them had the same date of
> issue, it was their first excursion away from the Motherland. They didn't
> mix with the locals either, probably couldn't speak English.  No Kingfisher
> beer for them and that Fenni shine was too strong for me. Couldn't get
> Scotch.

It should be illegal for anyone else to take your passport. I've seen
it being done to people in Dubai as well... it's a way of holding one
captive. Prisoners of State We, no Free at all. Yes, Kingfisher is a
good beer. Cheers!

> [trim]
>
> I see Musatov went through a lot of trouble just to place an x in my
> URL.
> =====================================================
> Perhaps he wanted to vote for you.

Perhaps. But I am running from office, not for. Funny that.

> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mahipal" wrote in message
news:84c15d22-c8ed-4888...@eo2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

======================================================
We are not in a bar, and mine's a glass of wine these days if we were.
Dirk Van de moortel is a slimy little scumbag in Belgium who once
boasted to putting a Key-logger on my computer when I had insufficient
protection and the nasty little faggot is lurking on this conversation even
now. My elder daughter died of cancer in 2006, I let it be known on
usenet and was accused of trying to capitalise on it to gain attention for
my views on physics, and by more than one scumbag.
If you want to spread your personal details all over the web that's your
business, but I'm not going to. Use your intelligence and make do with
my approximate age.

=======================================================
Usenet is largely a never-ending chess game with each participant
trying to gain advantage over an opponent for prestige, "My theory is
better than your theory". I don't have a theory, all theories are the
ideas of others. What I have is a discovery that nobody listens to.
You are asking me to change the way I play, but it's only a game and
my fun.

> That's what keeps you always on guard and
> confrontational. The thread I was speaking of is "Making a Sphere" but
> no matter, since you mean what you say.
>
> The gif you link to above, I have seen it before. Other than it has a
> nice female familiarity, I do not know what to make of it. The y-axis
> m must be for minutes? Not enough information, as is. What is the
> source of time contraction and expansion?
> =====================================================
> Excellent. Now we're communicating, you only had to ask. I make no
> assumptions as to anyone's knowledge as it may appear patronising and
> offensive. Now I know to what extent I need to explain.
> The source of the gif is the British Astronomical Society and V 1493 Aql
> is
> a star which suddenly brightened in 1999. Time is indicated on the
> horizontal axis in months during the year 1999, and m stands for
> magnitude.
> Because magnitude is logarithmic, a magnitude change of 6 is enormous, it
> will grab the attention of any stargazer the moment he sees it and he'll
> report it around the world.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitude_(astronomy) >

Given your additional details, I read this article
http://iopscience.iop.org/1538-3881/128/1/405/fulltext/204071.text.html
and it has a duplicate, more detailed, graph of the same brightness
over time data.

=========================================================
Quite so, more data can always be found.
Here is a simple distance-time graph generated by computer with the
following assumptions:
1) The emitter (star) has an output intensity that is constant.
2) the emitter moves in an elliptical orbit about a barycentre it shares
with another body.
3) The light leaves the star with velocity c, but arrives here with velocity
c+v where v is the velocity of the star in out direction.
4) Given a great enough distance, slower light emitted earlier is passed by
faster light emitted later.
(A car travelling at 50 mph is caught up after 300 miles by a car travelling
at 60 mph that left home 1 hour later, 6 hours * 50 mph = 5 hours * 60 mph)
< http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF >
Two beams are brighter than one if they arrive together.
It was Henry Wilson who first noted that delta T differed from delta t to
yield an apparent time dilation and compression.
So... no cataclysm. No Einstein relativity nonsense either.

> Other stargazers will studiously watch it until they lose interest. In
> this
> age of streetlights and television stargazing has lost its popularity, but
> our ancestors had little else to do during the long winter nights and were
> very adept at it. It is said that three wise men (probably from India,
> Bangladesh and Afghanistan) visited Bethlehem bearing gifts of gold,
> frankincense and myrrh were guided by stellar navigation, although that
> story has become somewhat corrupted after being retold to children every
> year for 2000 years.

Am familiar with this fable.

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The world was flooded when the Northern Ice Cap melted, so Noah built a
farm on a boat to save the animals. Such is the nature of fables.
Are you familiar with this 2100 year old technology?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
The extremely poor mathematics of the Holy Roman Empire, still extant
throughout the world and especially so in the USA, has lost us much from
the Greeks, the Persians, the Indians, the Arabs.

> So... the gif is very real data, not some tripe out of a text book.
> Such an event is commonly thought to be cataclysmic. The star explodes.
> The
> ancients would suddenly see star when none was noticed before and call it
> a "new" star or nova.
> Okay, but I'm a scientist. I have to ask, why would it explode TWICE?

Have not found (i.e., read) a good explanation yet. No conclusive
cause provided in the iop link concerning the TWICE peak.

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The leading and trailing edge of the region of reversal are the peaks.
< http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF >

"light is always propagated in empty space with a definite velocity c which
is independent of the state of motion of the emitting body" -- Einstein.
Oh no it isn't.
Too bad, Einstein, but your second postulate is nonsense, you fruitcake.
And yes, the spectrum will be strange with mixed red and blue Doppler shift.

> That curve is logarithmic, the second peak is also huge.
> Is there some other simple explanation? And I'm a stickler for Ockham's
> Razor, too. The simplest explanation is probably the right one.
> Give it some thought, and in our next exciting episode we'll discuss the
> matter further.

"It is probable that the secondary outburst apparent in the light
curve was due to an additional but slow increase in the material being
expelled from the surface of the white dwarf." -- iop link.

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Standard explanation. It's as probable as Ptolemy's epicycles cause
retrograde motion.
<http://www.lasalle.edu/~smithsc/Astronomy/retrograd.html>

I would search for Henry Wilson but Google Search on and of Usenet is
really Really REALLY atrocious. Arrgh. Oy the frustration of bad SW
apps.

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Look in (subscribe to) sci.physics.relativity, He's usually beating up
relativists for fun.
He's my student but he's very arrogant, wants all the credit. We treat each
other
roughly but there is no real animosity.

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Heck, my Jazzy is faster than walking, all I want is for all pubs not to
have steps as it limits my choice.
http://www.pridemobility.com/jazzy/jazzyselect6.asp
Trouble is some of them are 900 years old.
http://www.caldecottegroup.com/propertydetail.aspx?id=cRhqQTirslI%3D

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Nobody took a passport. If you want a hotel room you are obliged to
hand it over, but anyone can sleep under the stars. If you want to drive
in Maryland you need a license, but nobody is forcing you to drive there.
You have the freedom of the highway and byways to walk or ride a horse.
Driving a car is a privilege that you have to morally and ethically prove
you are worthy of, it's a lethal weapon.
Freedom and rights have very different meanings.
Yankees often mistake them, they think they have the right to privacy
but they have a Bill of Rights and it's not in there so they don't. Hence
technology that lets security guards see through clothes at airports in
infra-red or x-ray, but nobody is forced to board a plane.

> [trim]
>
> I see Musatov went through a lot of trouble just to place an x in my
> URL.
> =====================================================
> Perhaps he wanted to vote for you.

Perhaps. But I am running from office, not for. Funny that.

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Then he must have wanted to vote against you.

[Mahipal]

On Nov 24, 3:52 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

<LordAndroc...@November2012.org> wrote:
> "Mahipal"  wrote in message
>
> news:84c15d22-c8ed-4888...@eo2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> On Nov 23, 10:31 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
>

Dirk Van de moortel reads a lot like scumbag. So I accept, without
hesitation, your assessment he stalked your keyboard.

Ok. 40 +/- 70 is approximate enough to deal with. Btw, I lost my
Sister to cancer a few years back, I am now older than her age at
passing. It was very difficult, and still is, especially on our
Parents. Having lost a child is a very painful experience. Be strong
and find comfort somehow.

Do ignore all the trolls and evil mongers that are immune from the
joys and sorrows of being Human.

Your posting this quote earlier today was is very inspiring:
"And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is
unfolding as
it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him
to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of
life
keep peace with your soul. With all its shams, drudgery, and broken
dreams,
it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy." --
Max Ehrmann


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> > > > There are
> > > > occasions when I'll say "Yes, that's a very good point, I hadn't
> > > > thought of
> > > > that" and learn something. For example, Henry Wilson pointed out an
> > > > apparent
> > > > time contraction and expansion which I had previously overlooked. See
> > > > if this fascinates you and try to explain it:
> > > >http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif

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> > The  gif you link to above, I have seen it before. Other than it has a
> > nice female familiarity, I do not know what to make of it. The y-axis
> > m must be for minutes? Not enough information, as is. What is the
> > source of time contraction and expansion?
> > =====================================================
> > Excellent. Now we're communicating, you only had to ask. I make no
> > assumptions as to anyone's knowledge as it may appear patronising and
> > offensive. Now I know to what extent I need to explain.
> > The source of the gif is the British Astronomical Society and V 1493 Aql
> > is
> > a star which suddenly brightened in 1999. Time is indicated on the
> > horizontal axis in months during the year 1999, and m stands for
> > magnitude.
> > Because magnitude is logarithmic, a magnitude change of 6 is enormous, it
> > will grab the attention of any stargazer the moment he sees it and he'll
> > report it around the world.
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitude_(astronomy) >
>

> Given your additional details, I read this articlehttp://iopscience.iop.org/1538-3881/128/1/405/fulltext/204071.text.html

> and it has a duplicate, more detailed, graph of the same brightness
> over time data.
> =========================================================
> Quite so, more data can always be found.
> Here is a simple distance-time graph generated by computer with the
> following assumptions:
> 1) The emitter (star) has an output intensity that is constant.
> 2) the emitter moves in an elliptical orbit about a barycentre it shares
> with another body.
> 3) The light leaves the star with velocity c, but arrives here with velocity
> c+v where v is the velocity of the star in out direction.
> 4) Given a great enough distance, slower light emitted earlier is passed by
> faster light emitted later.
> (A car travelling at 50 mph is caught up after 300 miles by a car travelling
> at 60 mph that left home 1 hour later, 6 hours * 50 mph = 5 hours * 60 mph)
> <http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF>
> Two beams are brighter than one if they arrive together.
> It was Henry Wilson who first noted that delta T differed from delta t to
> yield an apparent time dilation and compression.
> So... no cataclysm. No Einstein relativity nonsense either.

Interesting graph where DT/dt < 0 in certain regions. Can you please
put values on the parsecs and the time axes, if needed.

Why do you conclude that this is a elliptical orbit binary system?
Isn't this the kind of detail Astronomers determine before the Farmers
keep insisting the rocks really fell out of the sky -- all the while
getting mocked by the Astronomers?

> > Other stargazers will studiously watch it until they lose interest. In
> > this
> > age of streetlights and television stargazing has lost its popularity, but
> > our ancestors had little else to do during the long winter nights and were
> > very adept at it. It is said that three wise men (probably from India,
> > Bangladesh and Afghanistan) visited Bethlehem bearing gifts of gold,
> > frankincense and myrrh were guided by stellar navigation, although that
> > story has become somewhat corrupted after being retold to children every
> > year for 2000 years.
>
> Am familiar with this fable.
> ================================================
> The world was flooded when the Northern Ice Cap melted, so Noah built a
> farm on a boat to save the animals. Such is the nature of fables.
> Are you familiar with this 2100 year old technology?
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
> The extremely poor mathematics of the Holy Roman Empire, still extant
> throughout the world and especially so in the USA, has lost us much from
> the Greeks, the Persians, the Indians, the Arabs.

That's a fascinating mechanical device, amazing the Antikythera is
2100 years old. Not that age matters much. But wow! I recall I first
saw it demonstrated, after replication, on a great TV series names
"What The Ancients Knew" and wondering how come so few shows this
amazingly good and insightful?!

The resultant extremely poor mathematics is a simple consequence of
the reality that a Plagiarist is never -- along any direction along
the time axis -- as thoughtful, insightful, inspired, and talented as
the Original Thinker.

In the USA we have nothing old, so I love traveling to Europe and
India. What could be more charming than having a scotch at a 900 years
old pub?!

Nobody took and held on to your, or mine, passport. Yet the act
happens daily to other less fortunate working class people in the
international realm.

> Freedom and rights have very different meanings.
> Yankees often mistake them, they think they have the right to privacy
> but they have a Bill of Rights and it's not in there so they don't. Hence
> technology that lets security guards see through clothes at airports in
> infra-red or x-ray, but nobody is forced to board a plane.

I suffer the humiliation inflicted upon travelers because how else to
get to London in 5 hours flying, plus 8 hours being strip searched,
than by the engineering feat -- no thank you very much you Liberal
Arts Physicists -- known as the aeroplane. Looking Indian as I do, no
feigning required, doesn't provide me any added leniency when forced
to pass through Customs, the Earth over. Shaving, somehow, always
seems to convey a sense of more innocent than had I my five o'clock
shadow.

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