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Where did the eclipsed red Moon get its light?

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mitchr...@gmail.com

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Jul 2, 2021, 1:28:03 PM7/2/21
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If there is no red in the blue atmosphere
or in green light?
A total eclipse is an inner shadow.
Why is that not seen?
Somethings science has no answer
for.

Mitchell Raemsch

James McGinn

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Jul 2, 2021, 1:37:55 PM7/2/21
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On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 10:28:03 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> If there is no red in the blue atmosphere

The atmosphere isn't blue. It's transparent.

> or in green light?
> A total eclipse is an inner shadow.

A shadow isn't a thing. It's an absence

> Why is that not seen?
> Somethings science has no answer

Science doesn't answer nonquestions.

> for.
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

Michael Moroney

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Jul 2, 2021, 3:42:55 PM7/2/21
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Just because you don't have the answer doesn't mean science doesn't have
the answer. You could use Google to find science's answer but you are
too afraid the "Internet Bias" monster will bite your head off. So you
will remain dumb and stoopid. Your choice.

p.s. Why are sunsets often red?

Hank Smith

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Jul 2, 2021, 4:04:56 PM7/2/21
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HOLY SHIT stop reposting this question and learn how to use a goddam
search engine.

Jim Pennino

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Jul 2, 2021, 4:31:09 PM7/2/21
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All this was figured out by Lord Rayleigh circa 1871 and published in
the The London, Edinburgh, and Dublin Philosophical Magazine and Journal
of Science.

You can either go to England and read the original papers or go on the
Internet, note that I said Internet, not wikipedia, and read a scanned
copy of his papers.

After reading the original papers, you can then go to Wikipedia and
verify the article on Rayleigh scattering agrees with the original
papers.

Jackson Sprat

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Jul 2, 2021, 4:35:16 PM7/2/21
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Only a big dummy would have to go to all that trouble. Smart folks
like myself can create a mind picture and see how the red light
is light reflected off the Earth and onto the Moon.

Loyd Migan

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Jul 2, 2021, 4:41:39 PM7/2/21
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That's only for particles smaller than the wavelength of light/laser. For
comparable particles you need Raman scattering, because Trump is not your
president.

Raman lidar is used in atmospheric physics to measure the atmospheric
extinction coefficient and the water vapour vertical distribution.

Stimulated Raman transitions are also widely used for manipulating a
trapped ion's energy levels, and thus basis qubit states.

Raman spectroscopy can be used to determine the force constant and bond
length for molecules that do not have an infrared absorption spectrum.

Jim Pennino

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Jul 2, 2021, 5:16:08 PM7/2/21
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Loyd Migan <lo...@wsateins.jp> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>
>> mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If there is no red in the blue atmosphere or in green light?
>>> A total eclipse is an inner shadow. Why is that not seen?
>>> Somethings science has no answer for. Mitchell Raemsch
>>
>> All this was figured out by Lord Rayleigh circa 1871 and published in
>> the The London, Edinburgh, and Dublin Philosophical Magazine and Journal
>> of Science. You can either go to England and read the original papers
>> or go on the Internet, note that I said Internet, not wikipedia, and
>> read a scanned copy of his papers. After reading the original papers,
>> you can then go to Wikipedia and verify the article on Rayleigh
>> scattering agrees with the original papers.
>
> That's only for particles smaller than the wavelength of light/laser. For
> comparable particles you need Raman scattering, because Trump is not your
> president.

Perhaps, but Rayleigh scattering is why sunrise, sunset, and an eclipse
are red.

mitchr...@gmail.com

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Jul 2, 2021, 5:36:59 PM7/2/21
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I don't buy your confirmation bias. You do.

>
> p.s. Why are sunsets often red?

Does the Moon have an atmosphere?
How would a total eclipse shadow get red light instead?
Where is the red glow coming from you moron?

Mitchell Raemsch

mitchr...@gmail.com

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Jul 2, 2021, 5:40:05 PM7/2/21
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Maybe for Earth atmosphere for its sun rises and sets...
but not for an eclipse. Show how an eclipse could do
what they do you moron... The Moon cannot scatter
like the Earth could.


Mitchell Raemsch

Jim Pennino

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Jul 2, 2021, 6:01:08 PM7/2/21
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Paul Alsing

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Jul 2, 2021, 8:14:21 PM7/2/21
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On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 1:35:16 PM UTC-7, Jackson Sprat wrot

> Only a big dummy would have to go to all that trouble. Smart folks
> like myself can create a mind picture and see how the red light
> is light reflected off the Earth and onto the Moon.

Except that during a lunar eclipse, it is the dark side of the Earth that is facing the moon, so essentially zero light is being reflected towards the moon from the Earth. There is a much better explanation as to why the moon can become red during a lunar eclipse, and all you need to do is to ask your own favorite search engine to tell you "why is the moon sometimes red during a lunar eclipse". That would be much better than someone looking that up for you :>)

I can assure you, however, that Jim Pennino's explanation is exactly correct.

mitchr...@gmail.com

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Jul 2, 2021, 8:32:06 PM7/2/21
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On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 5:14:21 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 1:35:16 PM UTC-7, Jackson Sprat wrot
> > Only a big dummy would have to go to all that trouble. Smart folks
> > like myself can create a mind picture and see how the red light
> > is light reflected off the Earth and onto the Moon.
> Except that during a lunar eclipse, it is the dark side of the Earth that is facing the moon, so essentially zero light is being reflected towards the moon from the Earth.

That zero light means a shadow would be with a total eclipse... not a red...

Mitchell Raemsch

mitchr...@gmail.com

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Jul 2, 2021, 8:35:26 PM7/2/21
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Who told you you are smart?
Where did you hear that?
At an eclipse there is no red light reflected
off the other side of the Earth toward the
Moon. In your picture where do you get
your light from? Can you explain how at
a total eclipse there is no shadow?

Mitchell Raemsch

Paul Alsing

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Jul 2, 2021, 9:35:36 PM7/2/21
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Jim Pennino

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Jul 2, 2021, 9:46:10 PM7/2/21
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Which part of "zero light is being reflected" did you not understand?


mitchr...@gmail.com

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Jul 3, 2021, 12:58:49 AM7/3/21
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On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 5:14:21 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 1:35:16 PM UTC-7, Jackson Sprat wrot
> > Only a big dummy would have to go to all that trouble. Smart folks
> > like myself can create a mind picture and see how the red light
> > is light reflected off the Earth and onto the Moon.
> Except that during a lunar eclipse, it is the dark side of the Earth that is facing the moon, so essentially zero light is being reflected towards the moon from the Earth.

So where does the red come from if the dark side is facing the Moon?

Mitchell Raemsch

Paul Alsing

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Jul 3, 2021, 2:13:54 AM7/3/21
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On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 9:58:49 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> So where does the red come from if the dark side is facing the Moon?

Asked and answered a long time ago, Mitch...

Jim Pennino

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Jul 3, 2021, 11:16:08 AM7/3/21
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If you were on the Moon during an eclipse, most of the Earth would be
dark and surrounded by a glowing red ring of the sunlight passing
through the Earth's atmosphere and being scattered by the Rayleigh
scattering.

Think real hard now; where does the red comes from?


James McGinn

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Jul 3, 2021, 11:44:00 AM7/3/21
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LOL. How's it feel to get a taste of your own medicine, you worthless troll.

James McGinn

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Jul 3, 2021, 12:05:08 PM7/3/21
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On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 11:13:54 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
So, where does the red come from if he dark side is facing the moon?

James McGinn

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Jul 3, 2021, 1:26:40 PM7/3/21
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Where does the red come from?

Paul Alsing

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Jul 3, 2021, 1:36:01 PM7/3/21
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Apparently, Jim, you are much like Mitch, seeing a how you are incapable of looking this up for yourself. The answer is easily found... just like it is easy to find the evidence that water vapor is a gas. Do you think I'm running a hand-holding service here?

ClutterFreak

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Jul 3, 2021, 1:48:20 PM7/3/21
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On 7/2/2021 7:14 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> I can assure you, however, that Jim Pennino's explanation is exactly correct.


What was that "explanation"?

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ClutterFreak

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Jul 3, 2021, 1:50:34 PM7/3/21
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On 7/3/2021 12:35 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> Do you think I'm running a hand-holding service here?

I don't know what he thinks, but I think you're just running your mouth.

Paul Alsing

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Jul 3, 2021, 2:12:03 PM7/3/21
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On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 10:48:20 AM UTC-7, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On 7/2/2021 7:14 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:

> > I can assure you, however, that Jim Pennino's explanation is exactly correct.

> What was that "explanation"?

I suggest that you up-thread and read it for yourself, posted yesterday 1:31:09 PM

Paul Alsing

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Jul 3, 2021, 2:12:08 PM7/3/21
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On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 10:50:34 AM UTC-7, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On 7/3/2021 12:35 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:

> > Do you think I'm running a hand-holding service here?

> I don't know what he thinks, but I think you're just running your mouth.

Clearly, you don't know what he thinks. You have not been here long enough to understand that I'm just parroting back to McGinn what he always says to everyone else when he cannot support his own claims. It is one of his standard responses... and he has many others, often vulgar...

ClutterFreak

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Jul 3, 2021, 2:23:33 PM7/3/21
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I don't do that for groupies in my kill-file. I want _your_ explanation
of "that explanation." Can you do an explanation here? Then do it.

mitchr...@gmail.com

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Jul 3, 2021, 2:28:28 PM7/3/21
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On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 11:13:54 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
It just shows you never had an answer you moron...
Red has to come from somewhere...
and there is supposed to be an total eclipse shadow.
Science got something wrong...

Mitchell Raemsch

Paul Alsing

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Jul 3, 2021, 2:33:28 PM7/3/21
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On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 11:23:33 AM UTC-7, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On 7/3/2021 1:12 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 10:48:20 AM UTC-7, ClutterFreak wrote:
> >> On 7/2/2021 7:14 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> >
> >>> I can assure you, however, that Jim Pennino's explanation is exactly correct.
> >
> >> What was that "explanation"?
> >
> > I suggest that you up-thread and read it for yourself, posted yesterday 1:31:09 PM
> >
> I don't do that for groupies in my kill-file. I want _your_ explanation
> of "that explanation." Can you do an explanation here? Then do it.

That explanation *is* also my explanation. You want me to just cut and paste it? This is high school freshman physics stuff. Go read the dang post.

I think you should just put me into your kill-file, if I irritate you that much...

mitchr...@gmail.com

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Jul 3, 2021, 2:37:42 PM7/3/21
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Go back to your internet bias paul you moron...

Mitchell Raemsch

Paul Alsing

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Jul 3, 2021, 2:43:23 PM7/3/21
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You have the attention span of a goldfish, Mitch. This question had been answered multiple times by multiple people, in multiple threads. You have rejected every explanation, and me showing you the answer yet again will be fruitless, right?

mitchr...@gmail.com

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Jul 3, 2021, 2:48:15 PM7/3/21
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Where would red come from you moron?

ClutterFreak

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Jul 3, 2021, 3:19:11 PM7/3/21
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On 7/3/2021 1:33 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> That explanation*is* also my explanation.


Which is...

James McGinn

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Jul 3, 2021, 5:20:34 PM7/3/21
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The subtlety of Mitch's request is beyond you. You need to demonstrate that the appearance of red is not the result of the absence of things that are not red All you can do is to keep dropping links that confirm your confusion.

James McGinn

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Jul 3, 2021, 5:28:46 PM7/3/21
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On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 11:43:23 AM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
Why don't you just admit you don't know where the red is coming from.

Sergio

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Jul 3, 2021, 8:25:02 PM7/3/21
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On 7/2/2021 12:37 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 10:28:03 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> If there is no red in the blue atmosphere
>
> The atmosphere isn't blue. It's transparent.

totally wrong. intentional misleading

Why Is the Sky Blue? Sunlight reaches Earth's atmosphere and is
scattered in all directions by all the gases and particles in the air.
Blue light is scattered more than the other colors because it travels as
shorter, smaller waves. This is why we see a blue sky most of the time.


>
>> or in green light?
>> A total eclipse is an inner shadow.
>
> A shadow isn't a thing. It's an absence

Wrong, Dark Shadows is about vampires.

>
>> Why is that not seen?
>> Somethings science has no answer
>
> Science doesn't answer nonquestions.

double negative, corrected;

"Science answers questions".

>
>> for.
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch

Sergio

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Jul 3, 2021, 8:28:11 PM7/3/21
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Mitch vs McGinn !! what a match folks!

so far Mitch 20, and McGinn trailing far behind at 0

Sergio

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Jul 3, 2021, 8:29:34 PM7/3/21
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ask Mitch, he knows

Michael Moroney

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Jul 3, 2021, 9:06:16 PM7/3/21
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On 7/3/2021 8:28 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 7/3/2021 10:43 AM, James McGinn wrote:
>> On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 11:13:54 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 9:58:49 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> So where does the red come from if the dark side is facing the Moon?
>>> Asked and answered a long time ago, Mitch...
>>
>> LOL. How's it feel to get a taste of your own medicine, you worthless troll.
>>
>
>
>
> Mitch vs McGinn !! what a match folks!
>
Biggest KꙮꙮKfight of the year!! Sniveling Mitch, still shaking from the
idea of challenging the Google Bias Monster in this corner!!

James "Tardnado" McGinn, water vapor free, in this corner!!

Gentlemen, when the bell rings, COME OUT KOOKING!!!

Sergio

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Jul 3, 2021, 9:31:18 PM7/3/21
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McGinn: says the d**k word!!!

Mitch: calls McGinn "Roy Masters" !!


Sergio

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Jul 3, 2021, 11:55:17 PM7/3/21
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McGinn telling someone else what to do!

Go find your missing "Cold Steam", McFly!
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