On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 01:03:43 -0500, "
BJA...@teranews.com"
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be...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>On 12/19/2011 3:40 PM, Painius wrote:
>
>> The idea that any one of an infinite set of numbers is in the middle
>> of the set is, to say the least, counter-intuitive.
>
>Only counter-intuitive when compared to reality. Luckly mathematics need
>have nothing to do with reality. Hence if I say any number as being in
>the center of an infinite set it's always mathematically true.
>
>> You seem to now hold that the Universe is infinite. Isn't that, to
>> your way of thinking, a religious, faith-based belief? I thought you
>> didn't believe in God, Bounce-back-n-forthVAC. Is that mean ol'
>> Jesuit priest finally getting to you? Lema�tre wanted people to
>> believe his "hypothesis of the primeval atom", you know, because it
>> was quite "Godly". Of course, he left that part out when he proposed
>> his idea to science. But you go ahead and believe it, Harlow, because
>> I now know that it's just your way of believing in God without
>> actually having to admit it.
>
>But when we get to the universe, mathematics no longer applies. There
>must be actual experiment to back up all assumptions. So is the universe
>infinite? Well, let's check with our greatest physics authority: Einstein!
>
>"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not
>sure about the universe."
>
>Albert Einstein.
Yes, Einstein said and wrote many interesting things. The above was
just one of several of his quips that led people to believe that he
was some kind of agnostic rather than a true atheist.
He also indicated that it was impossible for him to believe in a
beneficent deity who would allow the Nazi holocaust to happen. That's
what got him pigeonholed as an atheist.
Experiment has some application in astronomy, but not much. Mostly,
astronomers must go with what they observe and yes, with mathematical
analysis of the data received by the many "toys" that NASA has sent
into space. Such data has produced some anomalies, puzzling pieces
that don't fit our present physics formulas. They'll figure it out,
and you can bet: Mathematics will be a big help, as well as somewhat
of a hindrance, to them. Math enjoys wide application in astronomy,
especially in the more theoretical branches, such as astrophysics,
astrochemisty and astrobiology.
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of
the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in
its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the
piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we
shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light
into the peace and safety of a new dark age."
> H.P. Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"