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Physicists Explain How Human Eyes Can Detect Quantum Effects

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Yousuf Khan

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Sep 30, 2009, 7:30:18 PM9/30/09
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Physicists Explain How Human Eyes Can Detect Quantum Effects
"By greatly amplifying one photon from an entangled photon pair,
physicists have theoretically shown that human eyes can be used as
detectors to observe quantum effects. Usually, detecting quantum
phenomena requires sensitive photon detectors or similar technology,
keeping the quantum world far removed from our everyday experience. By
showing that it�s possible to perform quantum optics experiments with
human eyes as detectors, the physicists can bring quantum phenomena
closer to the macroscopic level and to everyday life."
http://www.physorg.com/news173423784.html

Rock Brentwood

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Sep 30, 2009, 7:42:43 PM9/30/09
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On Sep 30, 6:30 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Physicists Explain How Human Eyes Can Detect Quantum Effects
> "By greatly amplifying one photon from an entangled photon pair,
> physicists have theoretically shown that human eyes can be used as
> detectors to observe quantum effects. Usually, detecting quantum
> phenomena requires sensitive photon detectors ...

I am aware of the individual activations that impinge on the retinal
field. (Actually you are too, but are probably not conscious of it or
do not recognize what you see as such).

What this does is make the visual field similar to the appearance of
an ocean seen from 20 miles up or more. The appearance is of a large
number of fluctuating points of light that appear individually or in
groups of 5-10 that fluctuate at around 40 Hz or thereabout, and take
up an angular resolution of around 15 arcseconds (thus leading to a
number of around 100 million for the visual field, itself). This is
the appearance of a solid block of color (e.g. a white wall).

The frame is fixed. It moves with the observer (me), stays intact when
changing visual acuity, remains intact when the eyes are open or
closed and (in fact) remains intact while passing over from a waking
to sleeping and dream state.

At nighttime, in the darkest of night, the fluctuations die down to
around 1 million per second in the entire field and have the
appearance of individual points of light randomly impinging on the
field. This only becomes conspicuous at the darkest of nights in what
would otherwise be pitch black.

I'm fairly certain that each of these individual events is the
reception of a single photon. The appearance is the same as what you
get on a detector when lowering the intensity of the light source to
the point where the detection reduces to a series of individual
events.

But what's more interesting is that if any of these photons are
remnants of the big bang (much like the situation where a portion of
the reception on a TV, when tuned to an unused channel, comes from the
cosmic microwave background or CMB), then a portion of the activations
are direct perception of the CMB, itself.

I don't know of optical frequencies register in this way or not. The
CMB is in the microwave part of the spectrum. But if so, then it would
be the case that I can literally see all the way out to the edge of
space and time -- just like the guy in an episode of the old Outer
Limits series who developed increasing powers of X-ray vision.

zzbu...@netscape.net

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Sep 30, 2009, 8:02:34 PM9/30/09
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On Sep 30, 7:30 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Physicists Explain How Human Eyes Can Detect Quantum Effects
> "By greatly amplifying one photon from an entangled photon pair,
> physicists have theoretically shown that human eyes can be used as
> detectors to observe quantum effects. Usually, detecting quantum
> phenomena requires sensitive photon detectors or similar technology,
> keeping the quantum world far removed from our everyday experience.

But since idiot humans have also shown that through sufficient
magnification,
anything can be detected. So, that's also why the non-idiot laser
people invented
Double Blind Tests, CD+rw, DVD-rom, Electronic Books, Reverse
Compilers,
External Mini non-Rotating Harddisks, HDTV, Home Broadband,
rather than IBM Compiler Cranks and Optical Computers,

And invented Pv Cell Energy, Post ACME Screwthreads, Plexiglass,
Compact Flourescent Lighting Fixtures, and Self-Assembling Robots,.
Rather than Ford, Mile Per Hour and Automobile Assembling Lines.

And invented Atomic Clock Wristwatches, Light Sticks, Cyber
Batteries, and USB,
raher than GE Loonies, Laser Pointers, and AC/DC.

And invented Self-Replicating Machines AND UAVs, AND AAVs and
Microwave Cooling,
rather than just simply idiot Disney CEOs and Self-Replicating
Machines.

And invented Multieplexed Fiber Optics, AND, PGP AND mp3 AND mpeg
AND
non Vacuum Tube Microprocessors, rather than just PCM and Qwerty
the Press Lamos.

And invented Cell Phones AND GPS AND Digital Terrain Mapping AND
Phalanx,
rather than AT&T idiots and the Sampling Theorem.

And invented Self-Replicating Machines AND Thermo-Electric Cooling
AND Data Fusion,
AND On-Line Publishing AND UAVs AND AAVs rather than Washington
Post AP idiots,
Monday Morning, and Tie Dye,


By
> showing that it’s possible to perform quantum optics experiments with

alien8er

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Oct 1, 2009, 6:20:28 PM10/1/09
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On Sep 30, 4:30 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Physicists Explain How Human Eyes Can Detect Quantum Effects
> "By greatly amplifying one photon from an entangled photon pair,
> physicists have theoretically shown that human eyes can be used as
> detectors to observe quantum effects. Usually, detecting quantum
> phenomena requires sensitive photon detectors or similar technology,
> keeping the quantum world far removed from our everyday experience. By
> showing that it’s possible to perform quantum optics experiments with

> human eyes as detectors, the physicists can bring quantum phenomena
> closer to the macroscopic level and to everyday life."http://www.physorg.com/news173423784.html

So, it could be possible to build an optical device that permits
direct viewing of superposed states _before_ they collapse?


Mark L. Fergerson

Tom

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Oct 1, 2009, 10:42:21 PM10/1/09
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Nostradamus has done that centuries ago. And because
time doesn't exist in the quantum, he could see the future
(remember feynmann theorized antiparticles could be
particles moving back in time, or like Transactional
Interpretation, or Wheeler time backward near field).
He mentioned 2 dictators (or antichrists) like Napoleon and Hitler. He
even identified Hitler name as Hister. The third antichrist is called
Mabus. Wonder if someone can point
out who could be Mabus (or a slight spelling rearrangement).

Tom

Yousuf Khan

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Oct 2, 2009, 2:23:54 AM10/2/09
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alien8er wrote:
> On Sep 30, 4:30 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Physicists Explain How Human Eyes Can Detect Quantum Effects
>> "By greatly amplifying one photon from an entangled photon pair,
>> physicists have theoretically shown that human eyes can be used as
>> detectors to observe quantum effects. Usually, detecting quantum
>> phenomena requires sensitive photon detectors or similar technology,
>> keeping the quantum world far removed from our everyday experience. By
>> showing that it�s possible to perform quantum optics experiments with

>> human eyes as detectors, the physicists can bring quantum phenomena
>> closer to the macroscopic level and to everyday life."http://www.physorg.com/news173423784.html
>
> So, it could be possible to build an optical device that permits
> direct viewing of superposed states _before_ they collapse?

It sounds like what they're talking about is cloning quantum entangled
particles to the point where they are detectable by human eyes. This
isn't all that different in concept from lasers and DNA multipliers.

Yousuf Khan

ben6993

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Oct 2, 2009, 9:49:23 AM10/2/09
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On Oct 1, 12:30 am, Yousuf Khan <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Physicists Explain How HumanEyesCan Detect Quantum Effects

> "By greatly amplifying one photon from an entangled photon pair,
> physicists have theoretically shown that humaneyescan be used as

> detectors to observe quantum effects. Usually, detecting quantum
> phenomena requires sensitive photon detectors or similar technology,
> keeping the quantum world far removed from our everyday experience. By
> showing that it’s possible to perform quantum optics experiments with
> humaneyesas detectors, the physicists can bring quantum phenomena

> closer to the macroscopic level and to everyday life."http://www.physorg.com/news173423784.html

I read that amplification is theoretically limited to a maximum of
0.83 fidelity to the original
quantum states? {Antia Lamas-Linareset al (2002).} So the clones
cannot be exact representations of
the original photon? Is this the same context?

If (say) in the original quantum states, the probability that the
original photon will collapse into
a horizontally polarised wave is three times the probability that it
will collapse into a vertically
polarised wave, we will likely end up with a horizontally polarised
beam three times as intense as
the vertical beam. Even though both beams are composed of photons in
collapsed states, their
quantities should on average mirror the quantum state probabilities.

Does the original photon always have the same constant probabilities
until collapse?

And, 'horizontal' and 'vertical' are not absolute attributes? They
must be relative attributes,
depending on which way we orientate ourselves to view them? They only
become absolute attributes
when they are entangled. For example if an entangled photon is
entangled with the opposite
probabilities to the original photon, then they are absolute opposite
attributes. But there is no suggestion of entanglement in this
experiment. So the horizontal and vertical components are very
arbitrary here.

But I like the idea of this experiment and it should make a good
demonstration. It would be
interesting to introduce colour, if possible, into the one of the
beams and then combine the two
beams to use strength/dilution of colour to indicate the beam
strengths and hence the ratio of the
quantum probabilities.

Is there anything that can be done to manipulate the un-collapsed
original photon or its environment
to make it to have quantum probabilities that we desire? Again, this
would be more useful if
entanglement was involved so that the directions of polarisation were
more meaningful/absolute.

Autymn D. C.

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Oct 4, 2009, 4:26:22 PM10/4/09
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and behind

Autymn D. C.

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Oct 4, 2009, 4:28:30 PM10/4/09
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Meseems Mabus is short for the generic mirabilis.

-Aut

ben6993

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Oct 5, 2009, 3:41:40 AM10/5/09
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I think that the act of cloning the original photon probably also
collapses it?
The article says that the original photon is entangled, so I think
that the other original photon (assuming it is another photon, i.e.
the one not cloned) also probably collapses at the same time?

Yousuf Khan

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Oct 12, 2009, 3:27:03 AM10/12/09
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ben6993 wrote:
> I think that the act of cloning the original photon probably also
> collapses it?
> The article says that the original photon is entangled, so I think
> that the other original photon (assuming it is another photon, i.e.
> the one not cloned) also probably collapses at the same time?

Yeah, the article is not entirely clear about how they prevent the
collapse of the tangled pairs. Unless they're talking about not just
tangled pairs, but tangled triplets, quadruplets, etc.

Yousuf Khan

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