Lifter update-21Mar2K3-85g with 100g payload....
sno
For anyone who might be interested:
Click "lifter"
Then "experiments"
Then "experiment #14"
Stills and videos....
have fun.....sno
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Uncle Al
>
> For anyone who might be interested:
>
> http://blazelabs.com/
>
> Click "lifter"
>
> Then "experiments"
>
> Then "experiment #14"
>
> Stills and videos....
>
> have fun.....sno
If it lifts 100 gm then it should have no problem lifting a 5 gm
sealed inflated plastic bag into which it has been inserted. That is
it say... lifting it off a surface into mid-air. HA HA HA! No way,
Jose, not even if it could lift 100 kg in free air. Even Isaac Newton
says you are an ass.
BTW, do you wear a film badge? Look up "bremsstrahlung."
--
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(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
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sno
Uncle Al wrote:
> sno wrote:
> >
> > For anyone who might be interested:
> >
> > http://blazelabs.com/
> >
> > Click "lifter"
> >
> > Then "experiments"
> >
> > Then "experiment #14"
> >
> > Stills and videos....
> >
> > have fun.....sno
>
> If it lifts 100 gm then it should have no problem lifting a 5 gm
> sealed inflated plastic bag into which it has been inserted. That is
> it say... lifting it off a surface into mid-air. HA HA HA! No way,
> Jose, not even if it could lift 100 kg in free air. Even Isaac Newton
> says you are an ass.
>
> BTW, do you wear a film badge? Look up "bremsstrahlung."
Unc....I never said it was anything but ionized air effect....you
know what assuming does....this was posted for anyone that
may be interested.....as information.....
Ich sprecht eine bissel Switzerdeutch....
(do not write or speak it to well).
means something like "braking radiation"....assume is same as
ion beam.....to lazy to do lookup.....
bye.....see you next time I post update......sno
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Feed the homeless to the hungry
Mike Varney
sno
Mike Varney wrote:
> "sno" <s...@opelc.com> wrote in message news:3E7B3FC4...@opelc.com...
>
> You again? Go away.
Hey Mikee.....hows going...have you been practicing
using your imagination......
Thought by now you would be thrown off newsgroup....
but guess you can't since you feel you own it....
Bye until the next update.....steve
--
thistaglineiscompressedusingadvancedtechnologies
Uncle Al
>
> Uncle Al wrote:
>
> > sno wrote:
> > >
> > > For anyone who might be interested:
> > >
> > > http://blazelabs.com/
> > >
> > > Click "lifter"
> > >
> > > Then "experiments"
> > >
> > > Then "experiment #14"
> > >
> > > Stills and videos....
> > >
> > > have fun.....sno
> >
> > If it lifts 100 gm then it should have no problem lifting a 5 gm
> > sealed inflated plastic bag into which it has been inserted. That is
> > it say... lifting it off a surface into mid-air. HA HA HA! No way,
> > Jose, not even if it could lift 100 kg in free air. Even Isaac Newton
> > says you are an ass.
> >
> > BTW, do you wear a film badge? Look up "bremsstrahlung."
>
> Unc....I never said it was anything but ionized air effect....you
> know what assuming does....this was posted for anyone that
> may be interested.....as information.....
As long as you know a lifter is only an inefficient Newtonian reaction
engine. The high voltage AC electric field necessary to power it
broadcasts, and may constitute a human exposure hazard. Why don't you
guys use a parabolic antenna for an emitter? Collimation should give
you steering, as with a ping-pong ball trapped in a vertical air jet.
sno
Uncle Al wrote:
Some of the people are working on that idea...and some other
ones to increase the ionization/lift....things are moving along
<grin>....who knows maybe someone will comer up with
something that will make it more then a toy/lab demonstration
....some sort of engineering breakthru.....is fun
playing with anyway....sno
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Mike Varney
"sno" <s...@opelc.com> wrote in message news:3E7B445D...@opelc.com...
>
>
> Mike Varney wrote:
>
> > "sno" <s...@opelc.com> wrote in message
news:3E7B3FC4...@opelc.com...
> >
> > You again? Go away.
>
> Hey Mikee.....hows going...have you been practicing
> using your imagination......
Things have been going well, crackpot. Got a publication in Nature and have
been invited to give talks around the country. You? *smirk*
sno
Mike Varney wrote:
> "sno" <s...@opelc.com> wrote in message news:3E7B445D...@opelc.com...
> >
> >
> > Mike Varney wrote:
> >
> > > "sno" <s...@opelc.com> wrote in message
> news:3E7B3FC4...@opelc.com...
> > >
> > > You again? Go away.
> >
> > Hey Mikee.....hows going...have you been practicing
> > using your imagination......
>
> Things have been going well, crackpot. Got a publication in Nature and have
> been invited to give talks around the country. You? *smirk*
Hey..... congratulations sounds like you have been working on
imagination and teaching <grin>....really / seriously , hope you
do well with your talks.....sno
Until the next time I post lifter update....snoi
--
How do you call a fly without wings ? A walk !
The Ghost In The Machine
<s...@opelc.com>
wrote
on Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:14:42 -0500
<3E7B1E52...@opelc.com>:
Ugh. Blue text on black just doesn't work, man. :-) Try light blue
(#00FFFF) or white on black, or black on white.
>
> Click "lifter"
>
> Then "experiments"
>
> Then "experiment #14"
>
> Stills and videos....
>
> have fun.....sno
Interesting. I don't see any obvious flaws although I'd have to
grok it a bit more to figure out the principles involved.
What I like about it:
[1] No batteries. Of course there is a 48kV or so power source,
but that's not part of the issue here; the idea apparently is
to lift masses using electrostatic or electromagnetic effects.
This is not a "free energy" / "perpetual motion machine" claim.
In fact the setup, apart from the "bed of nails" or whatever
that thing is, looks absurdly simple: a scope, power supply, and
multimeter unit.
[2] It appears the lifters actually do something. Unfortunately,
I don't have the right codec.
[.sigsnip]
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Donald G. Shead
"Mike Varney" <anti...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mike Varney
"Donald G. Shead" <u10...@snet.net> wrote in message
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I guess you did not just read what I wrote? *smirk*
sno
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> In sci.physics, sno
> <s...@opelc.com>
> wrote
> on Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:14:42 -0500
> <3E7B1E52...@opelc.com>:
> >
> > For anyone who might be interested:
> >
> > http://blazelabs.com/
>
>
> What I like about it:
>
> [1] No batteries. Of course there is a 48kV or so power source,
> but that's not part of the issue here; the idea apparently is
> to lift masses using electrostatic or electromagnetic effects.
> This is not a "free energy" / "perpetual motion machine" claim.
>
> In fact the setup, apart from the "bed of nails" or whatever
> that thing is, looks absurdly simple: a scope, power supply, and
> multimeter unit.
>
> [2] It appears the lifters actually do something. Unfortunately,
> I don't have the right codec.
>
e right code....????
here is link with instructions for building basic
lifter if you want to play with....
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifterb.htm
can use the THT power supply output
from an old PC Color monitor, link on bottom of
page......
have fun........sno
sno
--
Don't talk with a full mouth ... or with an empty head.....
Maleki
>> BTW, do you wear a film badge? Look up "bremsstrahlung."
>
> Unc....I never said it was anything but ionized air effect....you
> know what assuming does....this was posted for anyone that
> may be interested.....as information.....
>
> Ich sprecht eine bissel Switzerdeutch....
> (do not write or speak it to well).
>
> means something like "braking radiation"....assume is same as
> ion beam.....to lazy to do lookup.....
"Unc" is your "Domme Siech" then. Good luck trying to learn
something from him. His ass is for sale only.
--
AghelAn noghteye pargAre vojudand vali
eshgh dAnad ke darin dAyere sargardAnand
"Hafez"
Mike Varney
"Maleki" <male...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:14981zivsoste$.1bfqxmnjflaae.dlg@40tude.net...
> sno <s...@opelc.com> wrote in <3E7B3FC4...@opelc.com>:
>
> >> BTW, do you wear a film badge? Look up "bremsstrahlung."
> >
> > Unc....I never said it was anything but ionized air effect....you
> > know what assuming does....this was posted for anyone that
> > may be interested.....as information.....
> >
> > Ich sprecht eine bissel Switzerdeutch....
> > (do not write or speak it to well).
> >
> > means something like "braking radiation"....assume is same as
> > ion beam.....to lazy to do lookup.....
>
> "Unc" is your "Domme Siech" then. Good luck trying to learn
> something from him. His ass is for sale only.
This from a Muslim? He who puts his ass on public display 5 times a day? I
guess Allah likes to impart divine wisdom via your asses... what does that
say about him?
hanson
> > "Unc" is your "Domme Siech" then. Good luck trying to learn
> > something from him. His ass is for sale only.
>
> This from a Muslim? He who puts his ass on public display 5 times a day? I
> guess Allah likes to impart divine wisdom via your asses... what does that
> say about him?
>
"Domme Siech", AHAHAHA......Mehram, very good. Haven't heard this one
since my days in the spook business. Yeah, them good old cold war days.
Applicable dialect region of "Domme Siech": South of the Rhein and Lake
Konstanz but North side of the Alps and East of the Jura.
But Mikey, Mehram will never admit to it that the imparting bit may have
come from a real "Schaf Seckel" aka "Schohf Seggl", having no divinity
at all. Such a confession could explain a lot, historically and otherwise.
In http://blazelabs.com/ Their pix look to me like twisted rubber band
propeller driven gadgets. None of pix shows one in flight or "levitation".
That's suspect!
> >
In http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifterb.htm, it shows some circuitry and the
model gadget looks to me like an upgrade from a classical electroscope,
2 foils spreading because of the presence of like charges.
It these are not impossible over-unit devices but clever gismos using novel
force amplification tactics, coupling and/or conversion methods of EM in/to
grav forces, then what is their new force coupling/transmission method?
Where is it openly described without a grand load of bull?
What am I missing here? What's the excitement about?
hanson
dlzc@aol.com (formerly)
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
news:RXufa.16505$pK4.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
...
> What am I missing here? What's the excitement about?
They have to sell them to make a profit. So they have a "shill" post
peridocially, to attact business.
David A. Smith
Uncle Al
Like the elegance of ornithopters, lifters exploit a subtle if obvious
phenomenon that does not exend to fanatics'/shills' claims. The
lifter is an antenna. When it is placed in a very nasty high voltage
AC field (e.g., Tesla coil emission) it blows an ion wind downward and
lifts off like any reaction engine. The trick is to get a lot of
antenna surface area with as little overall mass as possible. This
suggests fiberglass composite minimal framework for stiffness and very
thin foil panels. Alas, the panels tend to heat and burn through. It
is woefully inefficient as an engine.
Cut a Safeway trademark "S" out of aluminum foil, with sharp
terminii. Make a dimple at its center of mass. Open a metal paper
clip so a wire sticks up supported by the remaining wound base.
Balance the "S" on the tip of the wire at its dimple. If you zap the
paper clip with a Tesla coil the "S" spins like a sumbitch from ion
wind blown off the terminii.
Then, the loud morons arrive. A lifter obviously won't do anything in
vacuum. A lifter sealed within an inflated plastic bag won't do
anything either. It will rise within the bag, but the bag itself
won't go anywhere given conservation laws. Shills and fanatics spew
about "reactionless thrusters" and crap like that.
Maleki
<RXufa.16505$pK4.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>:
> [hanson]
> "Domme Siech", AHAHAHA......Mehram, very good. Haven't heard this one
> since my days in the spook business. Yeah, them good old cold war days.
> Applicable dialect region of "Domme Siech": South of the Rhein and Lake
> Konstanz but North side of the Alps and East of the Jura.
>
> But Mikey, Mehram will never admit to it that the imparting bit may have
> come from a real "Schaf Seckel" aka "Schohf Seggl", having no divinity
> at all. Such a confession could explain a lot, historically and otherwise.
What the ... ? Here I am searching the usenet and look what
I stumble on. You're getting worse Hanson. Wenn Du mich
schon ohne Provokation meineseits einen Schafseckel nennst,
muss ich davon ausgehen, dass Du selber ein "Volltrottel"
bist :-) And don't make me call you names in Persian. Your
spooks manuals fall short of understanding them.
--
ye hammumkharAbeh cheheltA jumedAr.
hanson
> "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in
> <RXufa.16505$pK4.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>:
>
> > [hanson]
> > "Domme Siech", AHAHAHA......Mehram, very good. Haven't heard this one
> > since my days in the spook business. Yeah, them good old cold war days.
> > Applicable dialect region of "Domme Siech": South of the Rhein and Lake
> > Konstanz but North side of the Alps and East of the Jura.
> >
> > But Mikey, Mehram will never admit to it that the imparting bit may have
> > come from a real "Schaf Seckel" aka "Schohf Seggl", having no divinity
> > at all. Such a confession could explain a lot, historically and otherwise.
>
> What the ... ? Here I am searching the usenet and look what
> I stumble on. You're getting worse Hanson. Wenn Du mich
> schon ohne Provokation meineseits einen Schafseckel nennst,
> muss ich davon ausgehen, dass Du selber ein "Volltrottel"
> bist :-) And don't make me call you names in Persian. Your
> spooks manuals fall short of understanding them.
> --
AHhahahaha.....ahahahaha......AHAHAHAHA......
Yes, you stumbled, indeed. You changed the dilalect and went
into population-speak of some 100+ miles north from the "Domme
Siech" dialect into the region of the "Dummer Siech". So, let's
stick with the former, ....so dass Du nid wie en Totsch usechunsch.
De "Schohf Seggl" vo dem ich gredt ha, haett doch nuent mit Dir ztue.
Chunsch jez druus? --- Drum han i doch gseit: "Mehram, very good"
hahahaha........ahahahanson
Maleki
<4P8ia.2275$ey1.2...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>:
Ok, if I misunderstood you then _somebody_ must still be the
so called "Schohf Seggl". Who.
--
zire shAlesh ghorseh.
hanson
> "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in> >> "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in
> Ok, if I misunderstood you then _somebody_ must still be the
> so called "Schohf Seggl". Who.
> --
>
AHhahahaha.....ahahahaha......AHAHAHAHA......
Who?...Mehram, who?. I think you know. I am sure you know.
But, Mehram, here, for your benefit, which you of course will not accept
as such, (and I don't care) is the genesis and the history of the "Schohf
Seggl" syndrome, which is nothing but a self imposed curse, that has
held humankind under its iron grip for millennia, and which ought to
make thinking people realize that "sapiens" is a highly misapplied attribute
when it comes to homo. There is no "sapiens" there.
-- Some 4 and a half millennia ago the original "Schohf Seggl #1",
went upon some fucking hill in the desert and lightning struck (near) him.
*** The mental aberrant that he was, (stupid, like going golfing during
an electrical storm), he experienced the effects of the raw power of nature
upon his brain and asshole. So, he decided that he'd witnessed the grand
and overwhelming force of the great spook, the supreme "Schohf Seggl
in the sky" in his brain and asshole. He sold his story successfully to his
clan folk, who became all little common, garden variety "Schohf Seggls"
and who used the tale ever since successfully as the supreme excuse to kill,
con and steal from others.
--- Then, some 2 millennia later some other aberrant, "Schohf Seggl #2",
of that same clan, also went into the desert and the same shit happened
to him and said aberrant #2 too experienced the effects of the raw power of
nature upon his brain and his asshole. So, he too decided that he'd
witnessed the grand and over whelming force of the great and supreme
"Schohf Seggl in the sky" onto his brain and in his asshole, but in order to
outdo the gig and the gag of "Schohf Seggl #1", he modified his tale and told
everybody that he, #2, actually was the real and only "Son of Schohf Seggl
in the sky". He sold his story successfully to his clan folk, who became all
little, common garden variety "Schohf Seggls" and who used the tale ever
since successfully as the supreme excuse to kill, con and steal from others.
-- Then some seven and a half centuries later, some 1300 years ago, the
(hopefully) final chapter in this unholy trilogy occurred. Some other aberrant,
"Schohf Seggl #3", of some nearby desert clan, also went into the desert and
the same shit happened to him and said aberrant #3 too experienced the
effects of the raw power of nature upon his brain and his asshole. So, he
too decided that he'd witnessed the grand and the overwhelming force of
the great and supreme "Schohf Seggl in the sky" onto his brain and in his
asshole, but in order to outdo the gig and gag of "Schohf Seggl #1", AND
"Schohf Seggl #2" he realized that he'd better up the ante and he raised
the stake. So, he modified his tale and decided that he, "Schohf Seggl #3",
actually was the only real, true, certified and certifiable messenger of the
"Schohf Seggl in the sky", because he, #3 , declared #1 and #2 to be just
plain old "Schohf Seggls" who didn't get it right. So, not surprisingly then,
he, #3, the "true messenger of the reat Schohf Seggl in the sky" sold his
story successfully to his clan folk, who also became all little, common,
garden variety "Schohf Seggls" and who too used the tale ever since
successfully as the supreme excuse to kill, con and steal from others.
So, anyway, for the propose of giving the "Schohf Seggl syndrome" some
NG physics legitimacy (for purposes of adhering to the FAQ), it should be
understood that "Schohf Seggl(s)" are really nothing but the common process
manifestations of electrons in very high concentrations which are affecting the
manifestations of electrons in much lower concentrations, in timelike and in
spacelike fashions.
So, now you know what your "Who" is. I hope it makes you happy, Mehram.
BTW. I have no idea why and how the term "Schohf Seggl" (= ram's prick)
came to be applied to these matters.
*** Mehram, reflect now upon your own experience you underwent up
there in those alto planos of the Aborz. Maybe it was your calling that you
have missed. You could have been # 4, Mehram.
But, since you are infected and infused by the tale of #3, I am afraid that
this wasn't in the cards for you. Most probably the "Schohf Seggl in the sky"
simply laughed and said: "I gotta fuck here with little Mehram Maleki and
find out what kind of "Schohf Seggl" he is. ......AHhahahaha.....ahahahaha...
...AHAHAHAHA...... hahahahaha.......ahahahahanson
Maleki
<U4Pja.10584$ey1.8...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>:
> --- Then, some 2 millennia later some other aberrant, "Schohf Seggl #2",
> of that same clan, also went into the desert and the same shit happened
> to him and said aberrant #2 too experienced the effects of the raw power of
> nature upon his brain and his asshole. So, he too decided that he'd
> witnessed the grand and over whelming force of the great and supreme
> "Schohf Seggl in the sky" onto his brain and in his asshole, but in order to
There we go again. Some MONTHS later I discover you had
actually responded to my last message in the thread. Not
that I missed much, but for whatever this activity is
worth...
Anyway. Why would one look down on remarkable individuals
who've made a great difference towards better for others? Do
they have to speak your local Swiss dialect so you could
bring yourself to credit them for their positive influence.
And what's the superiority of these individuals over you and
your kind got to do with the fact that you feel uneasy about
your people falling for Arab dicks? Why do you mix these two
things up.
This kind of issue of course comes up everytime some fellows
are trying to evaluate those who're a good league above
their own heads. I deal with attitudes like that all the
time.
--
saro ghomi mishkaneh towunesho kAshi mideh.