Only 500m years left for humans
habshi
WASHINGTON, Jan 14: Two US scientists have warned in a book released
Tuesday that the end of the world has started ... but it will take 500
million years to life to disappear from Earth.
In "The Life and Death Of Planet Earth", Donald Brownlee and Peter
Ward describe the way Earth will eventually self-destruct and say this
should encourage man to take better care of the planet.
They said that when compared to a 24 hour clock, the planet is
currently at 4:30 am after about 4.5 billion years of existence.
At 5:00 am, the University of Washington professors write, animal and
vegetable life will end after one billion years on Earth. By 8:00 am,
the oceans will have vaporised and at midday, after 12 billion years,
the Earth will have been absorbed by the Sun.
By that time, the Sun will have become huge, destroyed any sign of the
human presence and dispersed atoms and molecules across space.
"The disappearance of our planet is still 7.5 billion years away, but
people really should consider the fate of our world and have a
realistic understanding of where we are going," said Brownlee.
"We live in a fabulous place at a fabulous time. It's a healthy thing
for people to realize what a treasure this is in space and time, and
fully appreciate and protect their environment as much as possible."
Brownlee and Ward said that the possibility of man moving to another
planet in that time is remote. Even if a planet could be found it
would be virtually impossible to get there.
At the rate at which the Sun is growing and becoming hotter, it is
certain to absorb Mercury and Venus, the two planets closer to the
Sun. And even if the Earth were to escape the star's expansion, it
would still make life on Earth impossible. And Man's time will come
long before the end of the planet.
Rising temperatures will force all living creatures to seek refuge in
the sea, the scientists wrote, and those that can adapt will survive
for a while. But eventually even the oceans will become too hot to
support life.
"The last life may look much like the first life - a single-celled
bacterium, survivor and descendant of all that came before," the
authors wrote.
Ward said the predictions are based on what the scientists know
already about life on Earth and the existence of other stars and
planets.-AFP
Spaceman
>Man will disappear ... in 500 million years: scientists
Only if they keep thinking of "lightspeed" walls
and "time changes with speed" crap
and never leave The Solar System to find a younger one
to infest..
:)
otherwise.
We all still have a chance to keeping humanity (virus of Planets)
going "forever" by simply not building invisible walls we can not break down.
such as the lightspeed wall.
:)
James M Driscoll Jr
Spaceman
http://www.realspaceman.com
Ronald Stepp
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> Man will disappear ... in 500 million years: scientists
Trivial.
In 500 million years we will have expanded to many places other than the
Earth, so it won't matter if Earth can no longer support human life.
Uncle Al
>
> Man will disappear ... in 500 million years: scientists
(Iraqis have fewer than three months.)
You are an underachieving idiot for reposting (without permission)
this sciolist tripe. The world could blot out tomorrow as a
relativistic black hole slams into the sun, or Paris. We could just
as easily discover a real time conveyance across the galaxy and breed
like yeast in an unlimited rich culture medium until the universe
cools.
Hey stooopid - do you really think we will not tinker with our own
genome? The only guarantee is that sorry failures like yourself will
be culled - or segregated for purposes of sport. Hunting Abos was a
lot of fun, whether in Australia or Desert Storm. (Though I imagine
it got boring. Our tank warriors scored 80% kills on first volley,
brewing up about a thousand enemy tanks before Bush the Elder was
bought off. The enemy managed to crease almost a dozen American
glacis plates overall, but Chobham armor apparently caught Allah
otherwise occupied.)
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
Helmut Wabnig
>Man will disappear ... in 500 million years: scientists
12 billion years,
>the Earth will have been absorbed by the Sun.
>....................
>By that time, the Sun will have become huge, destroyed any sign of the
>human presence and dispersed atoms and molecules across space.
>
>.........
>people really should consider the fate of our world and have a
>realistic understanding of where we are going," said Brownlee.
Senseless rambling.
Who ever is in the position to say what we SHOULD do
if in the end everything will have been in vain?
Only nihilism is logically consistent.
Why wait?
Destroy Earth NOW !!!
w.
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IN NONE WE TRUST.
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(Don't remove the X-es)
hanson
news:np7b2v872j54cso69...@4ax.com...[Helmut]
> Who ever is in the position to say what we SHOULD do
> if in the end everything will have been in vain?
>
That's is a pretty heavy duty observation. I like that.
but......
>
[Helmut]
> Only nihilism is logically consistent.
> Why wait?
> Destroy Earth NOW !!!
> w.
>
Yeah, yeah.... start with your own destruction... YOU first..... yourself.
I can wait. I wanna watch.
Maybe I can learn something from your so desirable departure.
hanson
Maleki
<Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in
<3E259E26...@hate.spam.net> that:
>Hey stooopid - do you really think we will not tinker with our own
>genome?
Are you sure you know enough to do it right? I'm
certainly not. You'll end up, I'd say, killing your own
ilk off in the long run. "Tinkering" with genes is
always going on unawaringly. Some people pass the ball
to a next generation that's lower in wisdom and
character, and some people give it to superior people.
Between my people and yours mine is not the one that's
declining. Even Soviets wised up.
Heck, even in music look what's happening to Americans.
Pop music is literally dying! Nobody is making music
for them worth listening. And those who still can
remember what music was among earlier generations have
begun hurriedly putting out "Alice Cooper" and "Deep
Purple" back out in music stores to perhaps give the
youth something to subsist on, if not fresh out of the
oven. You've fucked up your children's world in every
respect. Music is just a tell-tale of the whole
picture. You're an overgrown second-world entity
feeling the first pangs of what's going to come modify
your asses down to fit your small heads. Don't tell me
you don't understand what I'm talking about "Al".
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shotor khAbide'ash ham boland tar az khare
istAdeh ast.
jmfb...@aol.com
Helmut Wabnig < hwXa...@aXon.at> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:07:28 GMT, hab...@anony.com (habshi) wrote:
>
>>Man will disappear ... in 500 million years:
Aw, ratzafratz. I could have used this factoid to try to convince
my mother that it was a waste of time to vacuum the house every
Saturday. It wouldn't have worked for bath avoidance, though.
<snip>
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
Ronald Stepp
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> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:43:59 GMT, Uncle Al
> <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in
> <3E259E26...@hate.spam.net> that:
>
> >Hey stooopid - do you really think we will not tinker with our own
> >genome?
>
> Are you sure you know enough to do it right? I'm
In 500 million years, we will have learned how to make our own universes to
take the place of this one if it goes blooie..
Ronald Stepp
> In article <np7b2v872j54cso69...@4ax.com>,
> Helmut Wabnig < hwXa...@aXon.at> wrote:
> >On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:07:28 GMT, hab...@anony.com (habshi) wrote:
> >
> >>Man will disappear ... in 500 million years:
>
> Aw, ratzafratz. I could have used this factoid to try to convince
> my mother that it was a waste of time to vacuum the house every
> Saturday. It wouldn't have worked for bath avoidance, though.
Heh, and by then my 401K will be a 4E+125K
Prai Jei
"habshi" <hab...@anony.com> wrote in message
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hanson
news:d61d2v4i26omm4iov...@4ax.com...
>
> Heck, even in music look what's happening to Americans.
> Pop music is literally dying! Nobody is making music
> for them worth listening. And those who still can
> remember what music was among earlier generations have
> begun hurriedly putting out "Alice Cooper" and "Deep
> Purple" back out in music stores to perhaps give the
> youth something to subsist on, if not fresh out of the
> oven. You've fucked up your children's world in every
> respect. Music is just a tell-tale of the whole
> picture. You're an overgrown second-world entity
> feeling the first pangs of what's going to come modify
> your asses down to fit your small heads. Don't tell me
> you don't understand what I'm talking about "Al".
>
Mehram, Mehram, Mehram, the short sense of your
long story is that you deeply resent having become old
and that you blame America for it. With a vengence.
Here, have a "groovy", for old time's sake!
You are a true blossom of mankind.
You should definitely stay in sci.physics
.....hahahahhaa.....hahahahanson
puppe...@hotmail.com
> <jmfb...@aol.com> wrote in message news:b0693g$g4b$6...@bob.news.rcn.net...
> > In article <np7b2v872j54cso69...@4ax.com>,
> > Helmut Wabnig < hwXa...@aXon.at> wrote:
> > >On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:07:28 GMT, hab...@anony.com (habshi) wrote:
> > >
> > >>Man will disappear ... in 500 million years:
Yeah, but a cheese burger and fries will be 3E122K.
Socks
jmfb...@aol.com
<grin> Now project how much a gallon of milk will cost.
/BAH
jmfb...@aol.com
In article <b074f6$pcb$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Prai Jei" <pvsto...@prai-jei.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>At least we'll outlive the bananas
I thought they have a long half-life??
<pins>
jmfb...@aol.com
Robert Kolker
habshi wrote:
> Man will disappear ... in 500 million years: scientists
>
> WASHINGTON, Jan 14: Two US scientists have warned in a book released
> Tuesday that the end of the world has started ... but it will take 500
> million years to life to disappear from Earth.
This is going to be the case one way or another. Either we will find a
way to get to a planet more hospitable than the future Earth, or we will
become extinct.
Evolution does not take prisoners. The last one reproducing is the winner.
Bob Kolker
jmfb...@aol.com
In article <3E27FD16...@attbi.com>,
Nope. Not if they're born at the end of the growing season. Then
they will not survive.
Andre
LOL! :)
Hmm , wonder if anyone's tried to duplicate Bejamin Franklin's
lightning experiments lately ? Should make the papers .
(BTW. I'm JOKING! ;-) Please don't actually do this !)
> hanson
Maleki
in <b0934m$51o$1...@bob.news.rcn.net> that:
>>Evolution does not take prisoners. The last one reproducing is the winner.
>
>Nope. Not if they're born at the end of the growing season. Then
>they will not survive.
I wonder how many times this has happened with same
material we're made of, and in this spot of galaxy
where this matter is floating. How many processes like
that in previous solar systems using same atoms. If you
closely think about this, your butt will be with me
this weekend.
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nafase folAni behesh khordeh.
hanson
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> "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
news:<p4kV9.12041$Qr4.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
> > "Helmut Wabnig" < hwXa...@aXon.at> wrote in message
> > news:np7b2v872j54cso69...@4ax.com...
> > > hab...@anony.com (habshi) wrote:
> > > >Man will disappear ... in 500 million years
> > > >
> > [Helmut]
> > > Who ever is in the position to say what we SHOULD do
> > > if in the end everything will have been in vain?
> > >
> > [hanson]
> > That's is a pretty heavy duty observation. I like that.
> > but......
> > >
> > [Helmut]
> > > Only nihilism is logically consistent.
> > > Why wait?
> > > Destroy Earth NOW !!!
> > > w.
> > >
> > [hanson]
> > Yeah, yeah.... start with your own destruction... YOU first.....
> > yourself. I can wait. I wanna watch.
> > Maybe I can learn something from your so desirable departure.
>
[Andre]
> LOL! :)
> Hmm , wonder if anyone's tried to duplicate Bejamin Franklin's
> lightning experiments lately ? Should make the papers .
> (BTW. I'm JOKING! ;-) Please don't actually do this !)
>
No, you ain't joking and you don't need a kite for that.
Just ask the 13'057 folks whom _the lightning_ did experiments
on, in the US alone. (1959-1994 data **)
Ahh, yeahh.. 3239 can't tell you anymore. Got fried.
Worldwide, lightning kills more than 1,000 people in a year.
Fulfilled Helmuts dream.
A decade+ back, 12K+ft up in the Sierras, I was in a lightning storm.
First, in the pitch-dark nite the rocks begin to buzz and sing.
Then Saint Elmo comes and puts his sparklers everywhere.
Then you look at each other in the holy glow of a faint corona discharge.
Then Loki makes a quick and unbelievable brilliant cameo, followed
immediately by Thor's fucking Hammer.
It makes you dance, shit, piss and puke all at once. If you are lucky.
Not funny. Bad scene. Bad smell of O3 and NOx lingers.
Got religion real quick.......well, a dose....lasting a day or so.....
hanson
**
http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/papers/techmemos/NWS-SR-193/techmemo-sr193-2.html#s
ection2
Maleki
<han...@quick.net> wrote in
<C72W9.16877$Qr4.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
that:
>A decade+ back, 12K+ft up in the Sierras, I was in a lightning storm.
>First, in the pitch-dark nite the rocks begin to buzz and sing.
>Then Saint Elmo comes and puts his sparklers everywhere.
>Then you look at each other in the holy glow of a faint corona discharge.
>Then Loki makes a quick and unbelievable brilliant cameo, followed
>immediately by Thor's fucking Hammer.
>It makes you dance, shit, piss and puke all at once. If you are lucky.
>Not funny. Bad scene. Bad smell of O3 and NOx lingers.
>Got religion real quick.......well, a dose....lasting a day or so.....
>hanson
I know what you're talking about. Happened to me when I
was a teenager. I posted a detailed description of it
in the Iranian forum back in 1996 I guess. Let me see
if I can find it for you.
Ok, its url in google is:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=52dg8m%24987%40engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM
Enjoy :)
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khodAyA:
khodkhAhi rA chenAn dar man bekosh, yA chandAn
barkash, tA khodkhAhiye digarAn rA ehsAs nakonam
va az An dar ranj nabAsham.
"Ali Shari'ati"
hanson
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:31:14 GMT, "hanson"
> <han...@quick.net> wrote in
> <C72W9.16877$Qr4.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
> that:
>
> >A decade+ back, 12K+ft up in the Sierras, I was in a lightning storm.
> >First, in the pitch-dark nite the rocks begin to buzz and sing.
> >Then Saint Elmo comes and puts his sparklers everywhere.
> >Then you look at each other in the holy glow of a faint corona discharge.
> >Then Loki makes a quick and unbelievable brilliant cameo, followed
> >immediately by Thor's fucking Hammer.
> >It makes you dance, shit, piss and puke all at once. If you are lucky.
> >Not funny. Bad scene. Bad smell of O3 and NOx lingers.
> >Got religion real quick.......well, a dose....lasting a day or so.....
> >hanson
>
> I know what you're talking about. Happened to me when I
> was a teenager. I posted a detailed description of it
> in the Iranian forum back in 1996 I guess. Let me see
> if I can find it for you.
>
> Ok, its url in google is:
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=52dg8m%2498
7%40engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM
>
> Enjoy :)
>
You should have become a professional story teller
instead of an international agent provocateur :-)))
I enjoyed your story.
Thanks,
hanson
Maleki
<han...@quick.net> wrote in
<B%5W9.17306$Qr4.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
that:
>You should have become a professional story teller
It was pure fact, no fiction of any sort into it. How
much fact is there in one's life. Plus I don't write
stuff like that for people. I really wrote this one for
that firefly :) Still feeling guilt...
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zur dAri harfet pisheh.
hanson
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 05:55:45 GMT, "hanson"
> <han...@quick.net> wrote in
> <B%5W9.17306$Qr4.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
> that:
>
> >You should have become a professional story teller
>
> It was pure fact, no fiction of any sort into it.
> How much fact is there in one's life.
>
What made you think that I doubted it?
Why should that make you feel guilty?
>
> Plus I don't write stuff like that for people.
> I really wrote this one for
> that firefly :) Still feeling guilt...
>
by a bird or a lizard 20 sec after you bagged it....
Get over it.....or it will become a guilt complex.
Or are entitled to that legendary "Jewishe guilt"?
AHAHAHAHAHHA...ahahahahah...ahahahaha
Really, I liked your story, Mehram.
hanson
Maleki
<han...@quick.net> wrote in
<UTeW9.645$KG5....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
that:
>Your firefly guilt. The bug might have been eaten
>by a bird or a lizard 20 sec after you bagged it....
That would be normal. A tiny contribution, a tiny role
in a certain vast process that's going on. Has happened
for tens of millions of years and will happen in the
future. But out of all the evenings under the sky that
particular evening, and out of all the people living so
far away, and out of all the spots on earth and on that
vast mighty Alborz mountains that particular area where
the firefly was to live, ..., out of all the freak
unanswerable incidents, I should appear to her and
_run_after_ her, catch her, imprison her in a tiny
salt-shaker, then leave her up there on the rocks
somewhere and come back home? This doesn't make sense.
One would rather hang an Israeli mass murderer thug.
One would rather kill man before unknowingly doing such
thing as I did to that firefly.
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khodAyA:
inhA ali rA tA khodA bAlA mibarand va AngAh 'urA
dar sat-he kasi ke az tars be "khalAfe shar'" ra'y
midahad va bA khA'en bey'at mikonad pAyin
mi'Avarand. tasbihguye velAyate jowrand va
rajazkhAn ke: "ne'mate velAyate ali dArim."
"Ali Shari'ati"
Spaceman
>Nope. Not if they're born at the end of the growing season. Then
>they will not survive.
Never heard of greenhouses huh?
<LOL>
you would die quick in your own world.
good thing it is not yours only.
<LOL>
Spaceman
>LOL! :)
>
>Hmm , wonder if anyone's tried to duplicate Bejamin Franklin's
>lightning experiments lately ? Should make the papers .
>
>(BTW. I'm JOKING! ;-) Please don't actually do this !)
some people are,
but they use rockets connected to wires,
and take good cover while doing so.
:)
They also place houses and such under such to see the "real effects"
and never rely on the math alone.
:)
hanson
>
> the vast mighty Alborz mountains
>
For some reason sections the 2000 km Alborz with it's
18,934 ft Mt. Damavand remind me of an enlarged
version of the St.Gabriels Mt. Range in California.
Mehram, some lingo-origin stuff about "Alborz",
the name of that N-Iranian E-W mountain range.
There are the European words "arbre", "arbost",
"arbor", "harz", all referring to tree, woods, forest.
Then there is the German "Alb", the Swiss "Alp"....so,
does Alborz mean the "Wooded Mountains" in old Persian?
>
> that particular area where
> the firefly was to live, ..., out of all the freak
> unanswerable incidents, I should appear to her and
> _run_after_ her, catch her, imprison her in a tiny
> salt-shaker, then leave her up there on the rocks
> somewhere and come back home?
> This doesn't make sense.
>
Why is that a question? "Shit happens", man. With
all the freak variables available, unanswerable incidents
do happen. This is great and beautiful. The mystery, the
search, the discovery. It does make sense.
>
> This doesn't make sense.
> One would rather hang an Israeli mass murderer thug.
> One would rather kill man before unknowingly doing such
> thing as I did to that firefly.
This one doesn't make sense. Actually, your last sentence
sounds really psycho. Such an attitude is only advocated by
the most lunatic fringe of the religious fundamentalists, but it
is not uncommon amongst environmentalists. Unfortunately
they don't seems to have the guts to start by example....
with themselves.
Are you such an environmentalist, Mehram?
hanson
Maleki
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that:
>"Maleki" <male...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:u06j2v4j7mdfvh7e0...@4ax.com...
>>
>> the vast mighty Alborz mountains
>>
>For some reason sections the 2000 km Alborz with it's
>18,934 ft Mt. Damavand remind me of an enlarged
>version of the St.Gabriels Mt. Range in California.
>
Come out of the closet, you're Iranian.
>Mehram, some lingo-origin stuff about "Alborz",
>the name of that N-Iranian E-W mountain range.
>There are the European words "arbre", "arbost",
>"arbor", "harz", all referring to tree, woods, forest.
>Then there is the German "Alb", the Swiss "Alp"....so,
>does Alborz mean the "Wooded Mountains" in old Persian?
>>
I don't know. The best Persian dictionary I have
doesn't give its origin. Dr Hessaby was needed here.
Just once question and ... .
>> that particular area where
>> the firefly was to live, ..., out of all the freak
>> unanswerable incidents, I should appear to her and
>> _run_after_ her, catch her, imprison her in a tiny
>> salt-shaker, then leave her up there on the rocks
>> somewhere and come back home?
>> This doesn't make sense.
>>
>Why is that a question? "Shit happens", man.
>
I don't say shit doesn't happen! I just don't like
instances of such thin probability to pop up on me.
And especially when victim has been so far away from
sources of all the usual evil. The thing happened in
some godforsaken place inside mountains. I wonder where
else a creature must go, how far away from the evil in
us, to prevent _at_least_ such horrible ends. This is
not acceptable for me. I don't say it won't happen, but
when it does happen, as I said I'd rather see something
more common like a man getting killed, or more just
like an Israeli thug getting killed happen rather than
such a purely unjust and unfortunate and improbable
tragedy. A man getting killed is so much more common
and probable. And an Israeli getting blown to pieces is
even understandable, let alone being probable. But a
freak of THAT magnitude with that firefly? No way.
>With
>all the freak variables available, unanswerable incidents
>do happen. This is great and beautiful. The mystery, the
>search, the discovery. It does make sense.
>>
>> This doesn't make sense.
>> One would rather hang an Israeli mass murderer thug.
>> One would rather kill man before unknowingly doing such
>> thing as I did to that firefly.
>
>This one doesn't make sense. Actually, your last sentence
>sounds really psycho. Such an attitude is only advocated by
>the most lunatic fringe of the religious fundamentalists, but it
>is not uncommon amongst environmentalists. Unfortunately
>they don't seems to have the guts to start by example....
>with themselves.
>Are you such an environmentalist, Mehram?
>hanson
>
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khiyAl mikone tA donyA donyAst zendast.
hanson
> <han...@quick.net> wrote in
> >"Maleki" <male...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >>
[Maleki]
> >> the vast mighty Alborz mountains
> >>
> >For some reason sections the 2000 km Alborz with it's
> >18,934 ft Mt. Damavand remind me of an enlarged
> >version of the St.Gabriels Mt. Range in California.
> >
>
> Come out of the closet, you're Iranian.
>
Thanks for the honors, but I have to disappoint you, Mehram.
We have been over that before. On 01-04-03 I posted :
*"Thank you for further improving and expanding my supposed
ethnicity. I have been accused of being a Scotsman, Irish, Chinese,
Hawaiian, a Frenchman, an Inuit and yesterday Maleki swore that I
was an Iranian. Now, I thank you for adding the Jew to this august
collection. And, thanks for the laughs --- Happy New Year, MarkK"*.
Mehram, your renewed desire for me to be an Iranian is heart warming.
But as you can see, I would discriminate against the Scots, Irish,
Chinese, Hawaiian, French and the Jews if I moved in with your lot.
Mehram, I've around the horn many a times. I have lived with
many a tribe. Not just vacationed there. I enjoyed them ALL.
Everywhere (!) there are always 90% great individuals + 10% assholes,
give or take. Every now and then, some collective insanity befalls the
"tribe(s)" and then the above ratio inverts. This is the case now.
It's always been this way. Will always be this way. Evolutionary setup.
Irritating. But not any more than any other disagreeable thing in life.
>
[hanson]
> >Mehram, some lingo-origin stuff about "Alborz",
> >the name of that N-Iranian E-W mountain range.
> >There are the European words "arbre", "arbost",
> >"arbor", "harz", all referring to tree, woods, forest.
> >Then there is the German "Alb", the Swiss "Alp"....so,
> >does Alborz mean the "Wooded Mountains" in old Persian?
> >>
>
[Maleki]
> I don't know. The best Persian dictionary I have
> doesn't give its origin. Dr Hessaby was needed here.
> Just once question and ... .
>
[Maleki]
> >> that particular area where
> >> the firefly was to live, ..., out of all the freak
> >> unanswerable incidents, I should appear to her and
> >> _run_after_ her, catch her, imprison her in a tiny
> >> salt-shaker, then leave her up there on the rocks
> >> somewhere and come back home?
> >> This doesn't make sense.
> >>
[hanson
> >Why is that a question? "Shit happens", man.
>
[Maleki]
> I don't say shit doesn't happen! I just don't like
> instances of such thin probability to pop up on me.
> And especially when victim has been so far away from
> sources of all the usual evil. The thing happened in
> some godforsaken place inside mountains. I wonder where
> else a creature must go, how far away from the evil in
> us, to prevent _at_least_ such horrible ends. This is
> not acceptable for me.
>
[hanson]
Mehram, you are obsessing with that firefly. I think it's a
heartwarming, sentimental experience you conveyed here.
It shows that, in some respects, you're still a sensitive person.
We all have memories which are like skeletons, somewhere.
Some people eventually collect these bones, bury them and
forget them and then march on. Try it.
Free the soul of your firefly. Let it go! Free yourself.
BTW, "Good and evil" are highly relative terms and emotional
ones at that. Neither can exist without the other. To boot,
monotheistic religions adjudicated this naturally manageable
dichotomy/duality into a sickly, deadly affair for nothing but
their own raison d'etre.
Fuck organized religion, Mehram. Free yourself.
[Maleki]
> I don't say it won't happen, but
> when it does happen, as I said I'd rather see something
> more common like a man getting killed, or more just
> like an Israeli thug getting killed happen rather than
> such a purely unjust and unfortunate and improbable
> tragedy. A man getting killed is so much more common
> and probable. And an Israeli getting blown to pieces is
> even understandable, let alone being probable. But a
> freak of THAT magnitude with that firefly? No way.
>
[hanson]
> >With
> >all the freak variables available, unanswerable incidents
> >do happen. This is great and beautiful. The mystery, the
> >search, the discovery. It does make sense.
> >>
[Maleki]
> >> This doesn't make sense.
> >> One would rather hang an Israeli mass murderer thug.
> >> One would rather kill man before unknowingly doing such
> >> thing as I did to that firefly.
> >
[hanson]
> >This one doesn't make sense. Actually, your last sentence
> >sounds really psycho. Such an attitude is only advocated by
> >the most lunatic fringe of the religious fundamentalists, but it
> >is not uncommon amongst environmentalists. Unfortunately
> >they don't seems to have the guts to start by example....
> >with themselves.
> >Are you such an environmentalist, Mehram?
> >hanson
> >
[hanson]
Remember, Mehram, the hammer is going to come down.
Get out of harm's way, or you won't be around to tell stories.
That would be a shame. Indeed.
Maleki
<han...@quick.net> wrote in
<kxCW9.1280$bL4.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
that:
>Remember, Mehram, the hammer is going to come down.
Hammer is going to come down all right.
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khodAyA:
maz-habe bi'avAm, imAne biriyA, khubiye binemud,
gostAkhiye bihAmi, manA'ate bighorur, eshghe
bihavas, tanhA'iye dar anbuhe jam'iyat, va
dustdAshtan bi'Anke dust bedAnad, ruzi kon.
"Ali Shari'ati"