UFO hovering over Oklahoma skies baffles astronomy club
knowbuddee
regular appearances now. This will increasingly be the case. They are
heralding the emergence onto the world stage of a messiah like figure
who has been prophesied by all the major world religions. He won't
work as a religious figure, but willinspire mankind to see itself as
one family and to rebuild the world so that it's a great place for
everyone. In brief, it's time for us to become civilized, time for
this huge dysfunctional family of ours to become functional. A link to
that is at the bottom, just in case anyone happens to have their mind
open.
:-)
Watch for more sitings & reports like this in the coming weeks and
months:
Examiner report/article: UFO-hovering-over-Oklahoma-skies-baffles-
astronomy-club
On the evening of 10-17-09 myself and four other club members were at
our astronomy clubs’ observatory (35.8308 96.14518) for a clear night
of observing. With many years of experience in observing under our
belts we were needless to say quite qualified to identify most
anything that we would see. Between approximately 6:40 – 7:00 P.M.
one
of the members noticed something off in the west and queried as to
what it may happen to be.
First and foremost it was bright, more or less as bright as Jupiter,
yet setting about ten to twelve degrees above the horizon, due west.
At our first sighting most of us thought that it was nothing more
than
an airliner reflecting sunlight from the setting sun but that
determination was tossed aside shortly there after. If it had been
what we first thought it was it would’ve lost it’s size and
brightness
fairly quick as it shifted positions in relation to the sun while in
flight.
But, it continued to maintain its position, did not move in any
direction - vertically, horizontally. If by some chance it were a
celestial body it would follow a gradual celestial track that all of
us would have noticed in a few minutes. Again, it didn’t move,
remained in one position, which eliminated the possibility of it
being
a celestial body that none of us were unlikely familiar with. That
alone became puzzling since the obvious – Venus, Mercury – are now
tracking in the morning eastern sky, not the evening western sky.
With that we continued to watch it as one of the guys used his 10x50
binoculars to get a better view. What was seen initially brought to
mind that it may perhaps be a high altitude research balloon but the
more we watched it and as it maintained its position that thought was
tossed quickly also. From the beginning it remained in one position,
never moved. Balloons, of any type, will not remain in one specific
position be they weather balloons, high altitude research balloons or
otherwise.
But as we watched it more closely it was very surprising as to the
manner in which it morphed into various shapes and sizes. Its
brightness would vary some but that was easily seen as being caused
by
the low-lying clouds on the horizon. As we commonly call it – it was
“sitting in the soup”. When they would move in front of it the
objects
brightness would dim some. Otherwise it would maintain its
brightness.
That was easily seen via binocular observations.
The longer we watched it the more curious we all became and with that
growing curiosity we quickly set two telescopes onto it. Two
different
sized telescopes were used, one, Celestron 11” Schimdt-Cassegrain
telescope and a smaller Orion 4.5” dobsonian telescope. Between the
two we could pull it in for a much closer look in a very inquisitive
effort to determine just what it actually was. Charts and web sites
were checked also to make sure we weren’t simply forgetting perhaps
one event that may explain what we were now seeing. Nothing could be
found.
The Celestron was using a 40mm eyepiece for a much wider field of
view
whereas the smaller Orion had a 15mm eyepiece to pull it in much
closer. Through the Orion one could easily see what appeared right
off
as a bell shape. The same was viewed in the other also.
But as mentioned before it morphed into what was clearly seen and
could be interpreted as the same basic outline of the Shuttle that
anyone would see as it flies over. Again, the same basic shape as to
what you would see looking up at the bottom of it. That distinctive
shape was easily recognized. At the rear of it you could see what
looked like bluish green waves that would both come and go from the
main rear line of the object. Nowhere else was this color and wave
seen, just at the rear.
The objects color was a combination of the just mentioned bluish
green
at the rear to a lighter orange yellow up through the main body and
then into red orange, much more intense, than any of the other colors
at the top or perhaps, from appearance at that time, leading edge.
None of us had ever seen a color distribution of this sort before.
Especially on either the Shuttle or any other normal day-to-day
satellites. From our position/location it appeared to be hovering
over
either Bristow, Ok or possibly even Oklahoma City.
There was no attempt by any of us then to determine its specific
distance or altitude from us. The same applies to its actual size.
Visually, it appeared very similar to the size of Jupiter. Other than
that comparison we honestly don’t know either its distance or
specific
altitude. It remained in the same position for approximately 40
minutes and never moved. Close to 8 P.M. we started to notice what
appeared to be a ring of lights that was rotating around the bottom
portion. The lights were seen in the same location that the bluish
green colored waves were at. Several of us noticed this while looking
at it through the telescopes.
Needless to say this was surprising to us all. This carried on for
one
to two minutes and then suddenly the object started to move. The
movement was slow at the beginning but increased very rapidly. I had
my eye glued to the 40mm eyepiece when this began and once it started
I could not move. Within two seconds it had totally disappeared from
open visual sight but I still had a lock on it in the eyepiece. Fast,
very fast it moved from dead center in the eyepiece field of view
upwards and at the same time was getting smaller and smaller as it
flew away. Two or three seconds later it was totally gone from view
in
either of the telescopes.
The speed that it moved was without question way beyond anything that
we have knowledge of or is publicly known to be in our military. At
the rate it flew away would make a SR-71 Blackbird look very old and
slow. Could it have possibly been a new experimental aircraft?
Possibly yes but if so what was something such as that doing in
Oklahoma? Most generally new experimental, top-secret aircraft of
that
type are being tested at either Edwards AFB or Area 51, not Oklahoma.
In a nutshell, we will never know.
It was unidentifiable, it was in the air and flew away and it most
certainly was an object of some unknown kind/type. From this alone it
could be justifiably categorized as a UFO.
Source: http://www.examiner.com/x-2363-UFO-Examiner~y2009m10d19-UFO-hovering-...
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See recent pictures of UFOS
http://tinyurl.com/ufo-pictures
The SI 'star' sign video at the youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuuMOvy1KNE
The youtube page where Benjamin Creme talks about the 'star' sign:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JihYJhfAs4
Details about the World Teacher
http://www.Share-International.org
Sam Wormley
> Believe it or not, there are four giant space ships that are making
> regular appearances now. This will increasingly be the case. They are
> heralding the emergence onto the world stage of a messiah like figure
> who has been prophesied by all the major world religions. He won't
> work as a religious figure, but willinspire mankind to see itself as
> one family and to rebuild the world so that it's a great place for
> everyone. In brief, it's time for us to become civilized, time for
> this huge dysfunctional family of ours to become functional. A link to
> that is at the bottom, just in case anyone happens to have their mind
> open.
> :-)
>
Go play somewhere else.
knowbuddee
> Go play somewhere else.
Children play while men work. Many children play, while they think
that they are working. The light shines in the darkness and the
darkness comprehends it not.
If you had any idea how inftantile our science is compared to where it
will be in only a few more years, or how ignorant and arrogant many of
our scientists are, you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Many people
think that they must uphold the status quo, because that's what holds
them up. In our world, the blind lead the blind.
Our science is doing pretty good, but it is very primitive compared
that of those who are thousands of years ahead of us.
"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign [with
unlimited expenditures], planting articles in magazines and arranging
broadcasts to make UFO reports sound like Poppycock." (CIA report
January 1953)
"Our study would be conducted exclusively by "NON Believer's." The
trick...[we] describe the project so that to the public it would
appear totally objective study. Conclusion...[that we present to the
public]. There is no secrecy and no evidence that such objects even
exist." Memorandum from Robert Low (Project Administrator CONDON
report Oct 1966-Jan 1969)
Why don't we see UFOs all the time... How/why do they disappear?
"... The UFOs are known by the major governments in the world to be
real, to exist, to be very advanced spacecraft... Most of the UFOs
visiting this planet come from Mars and Venus. Most of them, even the
Venusian ones, are made on Mars, which is a kind of great industrial
planet. All of them are of subtle, etheric, not dense physical,
matter. They can lower the vibrational rate of that matter until it
comes within the range of our sight, so for a limited period they are
visible. Normally, unless you have etheric vision, they would be
invisible, but to the Martians, the Venusians and so on, they are
visible because they are in that same kind of energy. If you went to
Mars, you would see nothing, yet there are more people on Mars than on
this planet.
Their technology is thousands of years ahead of ours at the present
time... All the planets, without exception, are inhabited. In my
experience, UFOs are absolutely real. They cannot usually be seen by
us because their normal state is on the higher etheric, not solid,
physical levels. When we do see them, this is because they lower the
vibrational rate of the vehicles to come within our vision, as a
temporary manifestation...They help us in many ways and without them
this earth would be a very painful place indeed. They mop up a great
deal of the nuclear radiation which we release into the atmosphere
through nuclear experimentation. Even if a test is underground,
contaminated, poisoned dust flies up into the atmosphere. The space
beings have ‘implosion’ devices which neutralize this nuclear
radiation. Without their assistance our rivers and streams would be
undrinkable; we would, literally, be dying... Without their help we
would be in a very sad state...Their intention is totally
beneficial ...All Hierarchies of all the planets in this system are in
touch with each other, and everything that takes place in an extra-
terrestrial sense takes place under Law."
Source: Benjamin Creme
http://tinyurl.com/spacebros
http://share-international.org/archives/UFOs/faq_UFOs.htm
The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
HVAC
"knowbuddee" <knowb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If you had any idea how inftantile our science is compared to where it
will be in only a few more years
How do YOU know?
Our science is doing pretty good, but it is very primitive compared
that of those who are thousands of years ahead of us.
You're not another one of those attention-starved retards
that think they're from another planet.... Are you?
Their technology is thousands of years ahead of ours at the present
time... All the planets, without exception, are inhabited. In my
experience, UFOs are absolutely real.
Hahahahahahaha!
They cannot usually be seen by
us because their normal state is on the higher etheric
LOL! 'higher etheric' You're funny!
Without their assistance our rivers and streams would be
undrinkable
Can you talk to the 'space brothers' and tell them to
do a better job. Our rivers are undrinkable NOW.
vtcapo
> "knowbuddee" <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
Who in the hell are you trying to convince with your BS. I for one am
a believer in ET and the role they had in our evolution but when you
put forth unsubstantiated crap like this you deserve what you get.
I'd go away before you get more of a beating.....
RT
HVAC
"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Who in the hell are you trying to convince with your BS.
Pot, kettle, black?
I for one am
a believer in ET and the role they had in our evolution
Why? The fossil record is complete from an ape-like
creature to modern humans. To return to a pre-Darwin
way of thinking is taking a step back.
Don't be afraid to move forward.
~
"There must be some kinda way outta here, said the joker to the thief"
vtcapo
HVAC peddle your shit somewhere else. You know exactly what I'm
talking about.... TROLL!
RT
BradGuth
>
> The SI 'star' sign video at the youtube video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuuMOvy1KNE
>
> The youtube page where Benjamin Creme talks about the 'star' sign:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JihYJhfAs4
>
> Details about the World Teacherhttp://www.Share-International.org
For some reason, Jews and Republican Zionist Nazis can never see any
UFOs, even if it's hovering within a foot of their mutually brown
noses. According to them, all 100% of crop circles are entirely
terrestrial and otherwise fully explainable (though apparently only in
a need-to-know or nondisclosure kind of way).
~ BG
Nightcrawler
"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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BradGuth
>
> The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
Not hat any number of serial bipolar nut-jobs and faith-based satanic
cults aren't jumping on the UFO bandwagon.
~ BG
vtcapo
>
> > The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
>
> Not hat any number of serial bipolar nut-jobs and faith-based satanic
> cults aren't jumping on the UFO bandwagon.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
BG you got that right. The naysayers however can't even handle it
when I agree with them. Go figure...
RT
Hagar
RT
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This is just precious ... one bona-fide loon agreeing with a total
nut-job ... you two can flip a coin to see who's who ....
vtcapo
>
> - Show quoted text -
At least BG and I can flip a coin. Your species hasn't developed
prehesile opposable-thumbs yet. Lucky for you it still doesn't affect
your manic masturbation tendencies...... Right Sgallie boi.
RT
knowbuddee
On Nov 23, 2:06 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 9:21 am, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 23, 10:55 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> > > Go play somewhere else.
>
> > Children play while men work. Many children play, while they think
> > that they are working. The light shines in the darkness and the
> > darkness comprehends it not.
>
> > If you had any idea how inftantile our science is compared to where it
> > will be in only a few more years, or how ignorant and arrogant many of
> > our scientists are, you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Many people
> > think that they must uphold the status quo, because that's what holds
> > them up. In our world, the blind lead the blind.
>
> > Our science is doing pretty good, but it is very primitive compared
> > that of those who are thousands of years ahead of us.
>
> > "We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign [with
> > unlimited expenditures], planting articles in magazines and arranging
> > broadcasts to makeUFOreports sound like Poppycock." (CIA report
> > Source: Benjamin Cremehttp://tinyurl.com/spacebroshttp://share-international.org/archives/U...
>
> > The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
>
> Not hat any number of serial bipolar nut-jobs and faith-based satanic
> cults aren't jumping on theUFObandwagon.
>
BradGuth
Most of us (excluding myself) are unwilling to admit who we really are
or what/whom we truly represent. In other words, most here are
official spooks and moles, as well as pretend-Atheists with ulterior
motives and hidden agendas.
~ BG
The Chief Instigator
> Believe it or not, there are four giant space ships that are making
> regular appearances now. This will increasingly be the case. They are
> heralding the emergence onto the world stage of a messiah like figure
> who has been prophesied by all the major world religions. He won't
> work as a religious figure, but willinspire mankind to see itself as
> one family and to rebuild the world so that it's a great place for
> everyone. In brief, it's time for us to become civilized, time for
> this huge dysfunctional family of ours to become functional. A link to
> that is at the bottom, just in case anyone happens to have their mind
> open.
>:-)
Not to argue with that, but a UFO over Creek County? Sounds like someone's
channelling Oral Roberts again. ;-)
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 2, Houston 1 (OT, November 22)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, November 25 at Hamilton, 6:05
Nightcrawler
You so much remind me of a kook I knew when I was a wee lad. He claimed
that the CIA bugged his bicycle, among many things.
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Raymond Yohros
that is very polite of you!
zionists are minorities trying to survive
nazis are hate groups
BradGuth
> Written like a true manic depressive nut job, Brad. Off your meds again?
> You so much remind me of a kook I knew when I was a wee lad. He claimed
> that the CIA bugged his bicycle, among many things.
>
>
> news:e6cf88fd-eeb6-4ceb...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> Most of us (excluding myself) are unwilling to admit who we really are
> or what/whom we truly represent. In other words, most here are
> official spooks and moles, as well as pretend-Atheists with ulterior
> motives and hidden agendas.
>
> ~ BG
Just checked your Usenet/newsgroup "view profile" for the first time.
I rest my case. There's no telling who or what you really are, or how
many other bogus/phony code names you've got going for yourself.
~ BG
BradGuth
But their polities and actions are nearly identical. Other than by
name, how do we tell them apart?
Isn't a well documented satanic faith-based form of global domination
pretty much the same as a warlord form of global domination? (neither
of which police their own kind)
At least a warlord dictator and subsequent global domination, such as
the NWO would suggest, needs a survivable environment plus a viable
economy and a great deal of physics and technological advancements,
plus mostly happy campers. You can't hardly say that about any
satanic faith-based form of global domination that's based almost
entirely upon fear of the mystical unknowns, and otherwise cult/cabal
like rewards for never policing your own kind.
~ BG
Uncle Al
>
> Believe it or not, there are four giant space ships that are making
> regular appearances now.
idiot
In 2100 there will be hallucinations of cities, supermarkets, flush
toilets, soap, and White people who can do arithemtic. None of it
will be true.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
BradGuth
>
> > The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
>
> Who in the hell are you trying to convince with your BS. I for one am
> a believer in ET and the role they had in our evolution but when you
> put forth unsubstantiated crap like this you deserve what you get.
> I'd go away before you get more of a beating.....
>
> RT
HVAC evolved from devout incest of the Zionist Nazi kind. It's
reverse evolution, whereas the skull and brain continually shrinks for
each new generation. Eventually the HVAC DNA will become a one cell
example of diatom poop.
~ BG
Nightcrawler
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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john
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'm Canadian.
I completely agree with you.
For instance, after Chernobyl there were
seen rocks here and there that would glow
green and then explode.
If you investigate all the
UFO stuff with an open mind, there
is just so much that is compelling.
When all the UFO sightings were happening
over California in the early 1950's, guess
what else was happening? Earth was moving through
a concentrated debris field of large rocks moving at speed.
Lines of UFOs did maneuvers for days in the skies.
Look it up. Were they around to save Earth's ass from
a real big rock? It looks that way to me.
But deniers will never see that, because its nowhere in their
worldview.
It's like when you put schizophrenics and 'normal' people in
a theatre and flash a one/thirtieth-of-a-second image of
a circle:
-all the normal people see a circle
-all the schizophrenics also see a circle
But when you flash a one/thirtieth-of-a-second image of
a *broken* circle:
-all the normal people see a circle
-all the schizophrenics see a *broken circle*!
It's because schizophrenics are
lacking a chemical in the brain that 'paints in the
missing pieces' so one can recognize something
even by seeing a small piece or seeing
it in a distorted way.
We need that chemical.
But this induces a state where the program
refuses to paint some pieces in because it invalidates
too many of the other pieces. This is the denier.
john
HVAC
"john" <veg...@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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>I'm Canadian.
Apology accepted.
HVAC
"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
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>
> Not to argue with that, but a UFO over Creek County? Sounds like
> someone's
> channelling Oral Roberts again. ;-)
Little know fact...Oral Roberts has a brother named 'Anal'.
Autymn D. C.
Autymn D. C.
> visiting this planet come from Mars and Venus. Most of them, even the
> Venusian ones, are made on Mars, which is a kind of great industrial
bullshit
> planet. All of them are of subtle, etheric, not dense physical,
> matter. They can lower the vibrational rate of that matter until it
> comes within the range of our sight, so for a limited period they are
> visible. Normally, unless you have etheric vision, they would be
What etheric vision? Talk literately. Ultraviolet? Vacvum
ultraviolet? γ/Zitterbewegung?
> invisible, but to the Martians, the Venusians and so on, they are
> visible because they are in that same kind of energy. If you went to
> Mars, you would see nothing, yet there are more people on Mars than on
> this planet.
Bullshit, all regular structures on Mars are crýstals and crýstalloid
faults, not buildings.
> Their technology is thousands of years ahead of ours at the present
> time... All the planets, without exception, are inhabited. In my
> experience, UFOs are absolutely real. They cannot usually be seen by
> us because their normal state is on the higher etheric, not solid,
> physical levels. When we do see them, this is because they lower the
> vibrational rate of the vehicles to come within our vision, as a
> temporary manifestation...They help us in many ways and without them
> this earth would be a very painful place indeed. They mop up a great
> deal of the nuclear radiation which we release into the atmosphere
> through nuclear experimentation. Even if a test is underground,
> contaminated, poisoned dust flies up into the atmosphere. The space
> beings have ‘implosion’ devices which neutralize this nuclear
> radiation. Without their assistance our rivers and streams would be
> undrinkable; we would, literally, be dying... Without their help we
> would be in a very sad state...Their intention is totally
> beneficial ...All Hierarchies of all the planets in this system are in
> touch with each other, and everything that takes place in an extra-
> terrestrial sense takes place under Law."
>
> Source: Benjamin Cremehttp://tinyurl.com/spacebroshttp://share-international.org/archives/UFOs/faq_UFOs.htm
>
> The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
My refutation of Klarer:
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:34:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Autymn D. C." <lysd...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [esotericworldnews] Fascinating true story on You Tube
To: esoteric...@yahoogroups.com
--- On Sat, 3/21/09, Lorraine DiFelice <wint...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> This is a true story and it's on YouTube. I'm
> sending it so you can check it out. It's a great story
> and people who knew or had met Elizabeth have written me
> about Elizabeth through the years.
>
> You Tube Video on Elizabeth Klarer, Space Traveler
> This video is from one of my sites on Elizabeth Klarer, UFO
> Contactee and Space Traveler:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv3horaKVkE
What does "true story" mean? There is such a story? or the events
behind the story are true? If anyone has her books, I'll be glad to
debunk them as well. Here are my submissions on YouTube:
Which four months was she gone? and who can attest for her leave?
Utility companies?
Akon the rapper?
Some contactees say aliens are from Pleiades (and misspeak the name),
but another said the stars are too hot and young to support Earth-like
planèts. So then yet another said they come from another dimension in
Pleiades.
So if we look into Centauri, what would we find?
Interpretation:
The skin's makeup is positronium—it would blow up, however. It can't
be pure if you want it to stay put.
Its buildth hangs on tensegrity.
But on UFO Files, one time the Russians shot down a shiny cigar UFO
with a missile, then the UFO shot down the fighter.
Anything can't be maed of liht, as it's not a thing but a hap—that is,
one can't build something out of events. It's the wrong word.
Silk is worm spit. :b
affect -> effect
visible -> variable
SB needs to learn semicolons.
Klarer is a liar!!! She's wrong, and her story is a fantasy. I think
she rad about P.C. 40 years ago and made up a wishful tale with her
lame scientific understanding. What does "higher vibratory rates"
mean?
The stars are .27 LY apart! Proxima is a red dwarf! It's definitely
not similar or the same size as Sunne—unlikely she means apparent size
in context; there would be no day from the other stars, which wouldn't
be suns at all. Meton would be at 1/40 AU to support life, and be
tidally locked, well under Venus. And who can live in H2SO4 /and/
O2?! There's been no break in human traces or skills for over a
million years; what about the poor Neanderthal?
home.entouch.net/dmd/chron.htm
If by "higher vibratory rates" you mean warmer, then that's Earth's
Atlantic period after the seathaw, muggy today. All of the pýramids
are much younger when life wasn't a breeze. There's no trace of man-
dinosaur cohabitation; the shoeprint-in-fossil layer was maed after
latter's erosion. Jupiter cannot be a star!, blue even, and can barely
be a brown dwarf. Alex Colliers is another bullshitter who knows nouht
about astronomy; one would see such density transitions in other
planèts and stars.
See my writeoff of 2012 here: egroups.com/message/free_energy/33048.
It's a big mistake.
The sky is not blue; the sea is. The sky is blea. Lenticular clouds
are not circular; they are airfoils, so a saucer cannot use them as
camouflage. Also, Wikipedia says such clouds are stationary. " Bright
colors (called Irisation) are sometimes seen along the edge of
lenticular clouds." Her other claim is the stormy "mushroom
clouds" (Cumulonimbus incus) are saucer camouflage. See "overshooting
top". Kids.
God bloody me? No, go bloody /you/, cretin.
-Aut (at esotericworldnews@eGroups)
Hagar
RT
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Onset of impending insanity noted ... get some help, lad ...
vtcapo
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think you're bored and you just want me to come out and play........
Start a new thread with something of interest. This one's dead...
RT
BradGuth
That's the intended job of what Zionist Nazis do best, is to kill
topics that puts any of their stuff at risk.
~ BG
Hagar
RT
**************************************
Didn't start the thread, doofus. But you're right, I am getting somewhat
tired of your infantile, GuthBallesque projections. The two of you make
a cute pair ... could romance be in the air ???
BradGuth
Inhaling too much of your own obfuscation and denial flatulence isn't
going to make it get any better.
~ BG
vtcapo
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh Hagars jealous......
RT
HVAC
"Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote in message
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> **************************************
> Didn't start the thread, doofus. But you're right, I am getting somewhat
> tired of your infantile, GuthBallesque projections. The two of you make
> a cute pair ... could romance be in the air ???
>
Who's the 'top' and who's the 'power bottom' ?
The Chief Instigator
That was old by the time I got back to Tulsa (in 1977, after having moved
down here twelve years earlier), but I've got a few kin still up there, and
a couple of my cousins did their part in putting up the "900 Ft Jesus
Crossing" signs at ORU. Even so, he wasn't the farthest-out wingnut in
town, as long as T.L. Osborne's gigawatt neon display and tiny church was
sitting there squeezed in between Skelly Drive and East 51st, just a stone's
throw west of South Peoria. ;-)
Benj
knowbuddee wrote:
A
> Believe it or not, there are four giant space ships that are making
> regular appearances now. This will increasingly be the case. They are
> heralding the emergence onto the world stage of a messiah like figure
> who has been prophesied by all the major world religions. He won't
> work as a religious figure, but will inspire mankind to see itself as
> one family and to rebuild the world so that it's a great place for
> everyone. In brief, it's time for us to become civilized, time for
> this huge dysfunctional family of ours to become functional. A link to
> that is at the bottom, just in case anyone happens to have their mind
> open.
B
> It was unidentifiable, it was in the air and flew away and it most
> certainly was an object of some unknown kind/type. From this alone it
> could be justifiably categorized as a UFO.
Well, I'm sure everybody here (with the possible exception of Uncle
Al) will agree that it is long PAST time for human beings to begin
acting civilized. However, the interesting scientific process here is
for you to explain exactly how you got from the facts in B to your
conclusions in A? Inquiring minds want to know.
Idiot.
Benj
HVAC wrote:
> Who's the 'top' and who's the 'power bottom' ?
Yeah, That's my question too. Obviously "HVAC" and "Knowbuddee" are
buttbuddees sent here for the usual purpose of disrupting and
ridiculing any intelligent discussion of UFO phenomena. Obviously they
are intelligence community. Obviously with an agenda.
Do not feed the trolls. ... Oh crap. I just did, didn't I?
BradGuth
There was no specific request for Republican Zionist Nazis to
contribute to this topic, so why are you here?
~ BG
HVAC
"Benj" <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> knowbuddee wrote:
> A
>> Believe it or not, there are four giant space ships that are making
>> regular appearances now. This will increasingly be the case. They are
>> heralding the emergence onto the world stage of a messiah like figure
>> who has been prophesied by all the major world religions.
> Well, I'm sure everybody here (with the possible exception of Uncle
> Al) will agree that it is long PAST time for human beings to begin
> acting civilized. However, the interesting scientific process here is
> for you to explain exactly how you got from the facts in B to your
> conclusions in A? Inquiring minds want to know.
Benj must be working for the government as
a disinformation spook.
BradGuth
> "Benj" <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
You'd certainly know best who's spook and disinformation worthy.
If you were an ET in charge of those that wanted to safely research an
odd planet that was badly overpopulated by multiple types of heathens
and mainstream satanic cults that think nothing of causing bogus wars
and/or putting trouble makers like Jesus Christ on a stick, as such
how would you instruct those of your kind exploring/investigating such
an unfortunate planet that was clearly in self-destruct mode?
~ BG
Raymond Yohros
>putting trouble makers like Jesus Christ on a stick, as such
By the tone of youre voice you'l never be part of polite
society.
The Chief Instigator
He's definitely not anywhere near literate society.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 1, Hamilton 0 (November 25)
NEXT GAME: Friday, November 27 at Syracuse, 6:05
tj Frazir
IC mm
Ib just bet it was some cop with a spotlight looking for all of you
deadheads .
astronomy club should take down the timothy leary poster.
IS the cow OK ??? LOL
The little green dudes are from fed.gov not outer space.
OH no a freekout ,,did I cause that ¿
let me call you a rubber jacket...
Max
> On Nov 23, 2:57 pm, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is my guess that all of you are Americans correct?
>
> I'm Canadian.
>
> I completely agree with you.
>
The reason you 'can see it' is probably in part at least because you
live in a relatively functional part of the human family - where the
government is more "for you" than it is in dysfunctional parts of the
family like the USA.
The feeling one gets in more civilized parts of the world where
healthcare is seen as a right is far better than it is in parts of the
world like the USA where healthcare is viewed as a privilege. Nations
are like families, and the usa with it's horribly destructive and
agressive so called "department of defense" is a very rough family.
Some people outside the USA say it looks much like a teenage bully on
steroids and crack.
>
> For instance, after Chernobyl there were
> seen rocks here and there that would glow
> green and then explode.
>
> If you investigate all the
> UFO stuff with an open mind, there
> is just so much that is compelling.
>
Right.There is way too much information to be ignored. The ruling
elite doesn't want to change the world. The very idea that people from
other planets who solved the same problems that confront us now
thousands of years ago are standing by and hoping to help us, scares
them and threatens their monopolies.
In a short time we will stop having corrupt political leaders. That
will end war forever. We'll build a world where the basic needs for
food, shelter, healthcare and education are the guaranteed rights of
everyone.
This is all the result of work that was started in 1875...
"The return to the everyday world of Maitreya, the World Teacher for
the New Age, and the Masters of Wisdom – the Elder Brothers of
humanity – is an ongoing process for which humanity has been prepared
since 1875 by the Ageless Wisdom teachings. In various stages, these
teachings have been released in many publications, notably those of
H.P. Blavatsky, Alice A. Bailey, the Agni Yoga series, and most
recently the books by Benjamin Creme..."
http://www.biblioteca-ga.info/
>
> When all the UFO sightings were happening
> over California in the early 1950's, guess
> what else was happening? Earth was moving through
> a concentrated debris field of large rocks moving at speed.
> Lines of UFOs did maneuvers for days in the skies.
> Look it up. Were they around to save Earth's ass from
> a real big rock? It looks that way to me.
Our elder brothers do whatever the law allows them to do. Our world is
a huge school and far too many of the student's are oblivious to the
fact that the school
has an administration. That will soon change.
>
> But deniers will never see that, because its nowhere in their
> worldview.
They'll all see it very soon. We're living now at the time of the
"end of the world", as we've come to know it.
It's time for us to rebuild the world so that it's a good place for
everyone.
The naysayers will say that's crazy, but they've been saying that
about every advance since the dawn of time!
vtcapo
You are in the wrong place if you expect polite.....If I were you, I'd
forget about the internet if that's your concern.
RT
vtcapo
I agree with the first part of your post concerning the USA as a
dysfunctional family and your remarks about healthcare. I’ll even
agree with you about the fact that “There is way too much information
to be ignored.” , concerning the UFO phenomena. But then you blow it
with this New Age shit or should I say Age Old shit. This is the same
crap I experienced in the 60’s and 70’s. Your return to the everyday
world of the Maitreya is a pipe dream, along with the notion that it
is the End Times. I for one know that if you follow prophecy all the
signs are in place. So some of us see the End Times as a possibility.
However, you will never convince anyone with your New Age
speculation. You need facts, nothing but the facts. Even with that,
most would not believe, even if it happened....
RT
BradGuth
You mean because I object to satanic rituals and persecutions of the
mostly innocent and/or their racial caste system?
You mean because I might object to those faith-based strings attached
to the private parts of our government officials?
You mean because I'd object to hocus-pocus science as based upon your
conditional laws of physics?
~ BG
BradGuth
Except it's their public funded and/or faith-based funded job to be
doing exactly what they have been accomplishing all along.
~ BG
Raymond Yohros
> On Nov 25, 10:01 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...@birdband.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 25, 11:59 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >putting trouble makers like Jesus Christ on a stick, as such
>
> > By the tone of youre voice you'l never be part of polite
> > society.
>
> You mean because I object to satanic rituals and persecutions of the
> mostly innocent and/or their racial caste system?
>
that doesnt seem to be the case, you acuse jews and zionist to be
nazis?
there is good and bad in any social group and that has nothing to
do with race or religion.
>
> You mean because I might object to those faith-based strings attached
> to the private parts of our government officials?
>
i have no idea what youre saying
>
> You mean because I'd object to hocus-pocus science as based upon your
> conditional laws of physics?
>
it is the science what matters here!
by changing subjects and judging youre in fact being
part of the so called "religious wars" discutions
where pride its what rules and nothing makes any sense.
HVAC
>
> The naysayers will say that's crazy, but they've been saying that
> about every advance since the dawn of time!
I agree with the first part of your post concerning the USA as a
dysfunctional family and your remarks about healthcare. I�ll even
agree with you about the fact that �There is way too much information
to be ignored.� , concerning the UFO phenomena. But then you blow it
with this New Age shit or should I say Age Old shit. This is the same
crap I experienced in the 60�s and 70�s. Your return to the everyday
world of the Maitreya is a pipe dream,
Well, well, well.... Mr. Vermont is now a conservative.
You shouldn't burst someone's bubble regarding new age
shit. It might hurt their 'feelings'.
along with the notion that it
is the End Times. I for one know that if you follow prophecy all the
signs are in place. So some of us see the End Times as a possibility.
Of course you realize that EVERY time has been
the 'end time'..... Right?
However, you will never convince anyone with your New Age
speculation. You need facts, nothing but the facts.
Did you take a smart pill today or something?
vtcapo
I stand by everything I say. Is it the End Times? It sure looks like
it can be with all the prophecies in place. But am I battening down
the hatches and waiting for the end? No…. If that were the case I
wouldn’t be investing in a new business upon retirement. But I am
smart enough to hedge my bets and prepare for any eventuality.
HVAC are you prepared for any eventuality? Do you have a safe place?
Do you control your own water supply? Do you have the ability to grow
your own food? Do you have enough fuel to get you through those cold
New Hampshire winters and I’m not talking about a few cords to get you
by? If the answer is no to any one of these you are at risk. If or
when the shit hits the fan whether it is drought, food shortages or
Wormwood, you won’t be able to depend on anyone but yourself. That’s
where I’m coming from.
And guess what? If nothing happens I’m still better off by investing
in my family’s security by being self-sufficient. It’s better than
money in he bank.
RT
BradGuth
> On Nov 30, 11:09 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 25, 10:01 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...@birdband.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 25, 11:59 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >putting trouble makers like Jesus Christ on a stick, as such
>
> > > By the tone of youre voice you'l never be part of polite
> > > society.
>
> > You mean because I object to satanic rituals and persecutions of the
> > mostly innocent and/or their racial caste system?
>
> that doesnt seem to be the case, you acuse jews and zionist to be
> nazis?
Are you suggesting that none are?
>
> there is good and bad in any social group and that has nothing to
> do with race or religion.
It most certainly does if that race/religion doesn't police its own
kind.
>
> > You mean because I might object to those faith-based strings attached
> > to the private parts of our government officials?
>
> i have no idea what youre saying
Puppets have strings attached, though parrots (once trained) are on
their own.
>
> > You mean because I'd object to hocus-pocus science as based upon your
> > conditional laws of physics?
>
> it is the science what matters here!
> by changing subjects and judging youre in fact being
> part of the so called "religious wars" discutions
> where pride its what rules and nothing makes any sense.
There are perfectly good and honest faith-based groups that allow the
best available science to emerge, as well as usually they accomplish a
good faith effort at policing their own kind, so that others don't
have to.
Self awareness should always include remorse and benevolence, though
some faith-based groups and their political puppets offer neither, and
otherwise rogue members are pretty much free to do as they please, as
well as toying with political policies goes without question.
~ BG
BradGuth
After WW3 or after whatever global wide disaster, HVAC would just buy
a replacement family with some of his offshore protected loot.
~ BG
HVAC
I stand by everything I say. Is it the End Times? It sure looks like
it can be with all the prophecies in place.
LOL. You DO realize that THE END TIMES(tm) have
been prophesised to be right around the corner since the
time before Jesus..... Right?
And we've had Heaven's Gate and Jim Jones along with other
assorted 'end times' morons in OUR lives.
And just in case: http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/ksc/725674463.html
(Double A, here a possible buisness opportuntity for you)
But am I battening down
the hatches and waiting for the end? No�. If that were the case I
wouldn�t be investing in a new business upon retirement. But I am
smart enough to hedge my bets and prepare for any eventuality.
HVAC are you prepared for any eventuality?
~~~~
I've got FAR better things to do with my time.
Like driving around shooting roadsigns.
Do you have a safe place?
Do you control your own water supply? Do you have the ability to grow
your own food? Do you have enough fuel to get you through those cold
New Hampshire winters and I�m not talking about a few cords to get you
by? If the answer is no to any one of these you are at risk. If or
when the shit hits the fan whether it is drought, food shortages or
Wormwood, you won�t be able to depend on anyone but yourself. That�s
where I�m coming from.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I live in a semi-rural area and we lose power for 3-4 days at a time,
although it's been some time since that's happened.
I have my own well, my own propane tanks and a generator.
I could probably go a couple of weeks without food, and the deer
are fairly plentiful (cept during hunting season) out back of my house.
The ability to grow food? Not really. Especially in winter.
But I'll be sure to keep an eye out for (ahem) Wormwood.
--
Tragedy is when I cut my finger.
Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.
vtcapo
It is obvious that you are not up to par on prophecy.
Prophecy took on a totally different character ever since
Israel came into existence. This was the piece of the
apocalyptic puzzle that was missing. When they start
building the Temple (plans are already in the works), that
crucial event will be something everyone should consider
as an ominous sign…
>I've .got. FAR better things to do with my time.
>Like driving around shooting roadsigns
You’re like the woodchucks up here in VT who like to
hunt my hill shooting deer from their car windows. I cured
that problem and ambushed one with my scoped L1A1 and
put a bullet through his right front fender. He’s lucky I didn’t
take out his engine block.
>I live in a semi-rural area and we lose power for 3-4 days at a time,
>although it's been some time since that's happened.
>I have my own well, my own propane tanks and a generator
That’s good. If the generator goes out are you able to pump the water
from the well? I switch a valve down in the basement and a hand pump
hooked up to an old black iron sink pumps right in the kitchen.
Propane
is good. Make sure you have at least a 500 gal. tank. I also have
storage
for 250 gal. of kerosene (lamps and heaters), plus 450 gallons of
diesel.
My diesel truck in Florida has 250 gallons of diesel which I always
have
topped off. This is my get out of Dodge vehicle and I can drive
approx.
2500 miles on a fill up depending on my load. Plus I have two 100
gallon
tanks on the property. I use a diesel generator up in VT and Florida.
Wood is abundant considering I have 18 acres surrounded by 300 that
can’t
be developed. I suspect you have a wood burning stove? If not what
are you
going to do if there is no propane?
>I could probably go a couple of weeks without food, and the deer
>are fairly plentiful (cept during hunting season) out back of my house.
>The ability to grow food? Not really. Especially in winter.
Get yourself a greenhouse. A 10’ X 12’ greenhouse if managed properly
will
feed a family of 4. My 30’ x 36’ will feed my family and the
neighbors. You
will have to keep the locals happy in case of the End Times.
I think you have some work to do…..
RT
BradGuth
Without fast food and highly processed food vendors, the likes of HVAC
would quickly starve to death.
~ BG
Double-A
> "vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ac02a27e-345a-4d6a...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> I stand by everything I say. Is it the End Times? It sure looks like
> it can be with all the prophecies in place.
> ~~~~
>
> LOL. You DO realize that THE END TIMES(tm) have
> been prophesised to be right around the corner since the
> time before Jesus..... Right?
>
> And we've had Heaven's Gate and Jim Jones along with other
> assorted 'end times' morons in OUR lives.
>
> And just in case:http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/ksc/725674463.html
>
> (Double A, here a possible buisness opportuntity for you)
You mean the pets of the elect will not get to accompany their masters
into Paradise? Or maybe they will ascend into doggy heaven.
Double-A
Double-A
What about a fallout shelter in case of nuclear war? Will your food
stores be free from contamination? And then there's that nuclear
winter to worry about!
Double-A
HVAC
>I've .got. FAR better things to do with my time.
>Like driving around shooting roadsigns
You�re like the woodchucks up here in VT who like to
hunt my hill shooting deer from their car windows. I cured
that problem and ambushed one with my scoped L1A1 and
put a bullet through his right front fender. He�s lucky I didn�t
take out his engine block.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Well, well, well..... Aren't we the vigilante.
It's easy to tell you're from the city. Folks around
here don't go off half-cocked like you do.
>I live in a semi-rural area and we lose power for 3-4 days at a time,
>although it's been some time since that's happened.
>I have my own well, my own propane tanks and a generator
That�s good. If the generator goes out are you able to pump the water
from the well? I switch a valve down in the basement and a hand pump
hooked up to an old black iron sink pumps right in the kitchen.
Propane
is good. Make sure you have at least a 500 gal. tank. I also have
storage
for 250 gal. of kerosene (lamps and heaters), plus 450 gallons of
diesel.
My diesel truck in Florida has 250 gallons of diesel which I always
have
topped off. This is my get out of Dodge vehicle and I can drive
approx.
2500 miles on a fill up depending on my load. Plus I have two 100
gallon
tanks on the property. I use a diesel generator up in VT and Florida.
Wood is abundant considering I have 18 acres surrounded by 300 that
can�t
be developed. I suspect you have a wood burning stove? If not what
are you
going to do if there is no propane?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As I said, I can go a week or two with what I have on hand.
I guess I'm not quite as hysterical as you regarding 'The End Times'(tm)
> couple of weeks without food, and the deer
>are fairly plentiful (cept during hunting season) out back of my house.
>The ability to grow food? Not really. Especially in winter.
Get yourself a greenhouse. A 10� X 12� greenhouse if managed properly
will
feed a family of 4. My 30� x 36� will feed my family and the
neighbors. You
will have to keep the locals happy in case of the End Times.
I think you have some work to do�..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Get a grip dude.
vtcapo
Good point. I have a full basement and although not blast proof I
don’t think my somewhat remote location has to worry about that.
Besides I’m on hill 750’ elevation and surrounded by 1500- 4000' +
mountain ranges. Fallout is another matter and is the weak spot in my
setup. But this can be remedied at considerable cost.
The fresh food source (greenhouse) would provide food during a nuclear
winter. Wind generators will run lighting and pump water. I am going
to experiment with LED lighting and see what yields I get. Btw
everyone should have a dry emergency food source packed in nitrogen
(25-40yr shelf life). That's a years supply of food for your family.
This is for a worst case situation.
There is a lot to think about if you want to get it right. Still, if
shit happens who knows?… But I do sleep easier.
RT
PS Don't forget the seeds..........
tj Frazir
The cold cant dive .
Docs ignore that because of money.
GET ONE thing strait about life elsewhere..
Not at the same time.
Was life and will be but not at the same time.
Its imposible to talk to et .
You will find the words of romans reflected by stars befor you hear
another fucking planet talk.
Any probes from another planet is still in the place it landed and has
been there 100 million years.
john
>
> - Show quoted text -
I wouldn't be anywhere near
those mountains when the
Earth moves. And it will move, on occasion,
as witnessed by those upheavals of stone
called mountains.
You get your good old-fashioned meteor
hitting somewhere, or your axis shift where
all the stresses change, and those
mountains are where the action is.
Don't sleep until you get all your
shit out of that death trap, Man!!
:-)
john
BradGuth
Yes, even impact zones like the Arctic ocean basin or their antipodes
like Antarctica are not exactly failsafe locations. However, try to
imagine a retrograde encounter with something like Sedna, whereas
we're talking of 30+ km/sec that would essentially vaporize most every
m2, because there'd be such a massive gaping hole through the crust
plus those thousands of Himalayan antipodes like never seen before,
and all of Earth would aftershock shake for a month or more.
~ BG
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Dubai ain't no Hong Kong, New York isn't much better.
vtcapo
>
> - Show quoted text -
If the shit happens to the extent that it moves mountains, everyone
might as well kiss their ass good-bye! I'm not talking extreme worst
case or ELE like in the movie 2012. I am talking about a survivable
event. With a survivable event, if you are prepared as I explained
the biggest problem you will have are those like HVAC who will be
roaming about looking for food when their 2 weeks supply runs out.
Did I forget to mention that you’ll need some guns to ward off the
marauders....?
RT
BradGuth
Secondly, those dead marauders can also be consumed as food, makes
every bullet worth the same as money in the bank.
~ BG
vtcapo
>
> - Show quoted text -
BG you're a survivor...........
RT
Double-A
Have any good recipes for roast marauder on a spit?
Double-A
BradGuth
It's already salty enough, but otherwise use of most any chicken
recipes should work just fine and dandy.
~ BG
Max
consider that it is possibly true. They'll come around after they've
seen and experienced irrefutable evidence. They won't have to wait
much longer.
These days mark the end of the world - as we've come to know it. It's
time for some things one would expect out of a fledging civilization,
like world peace, international cooperation, the end of poverty, and
the end of the great UFO cover up - to name a few.
People have been working on this project for over a century.
"The return to the everyday world of Maitreya, the World Teacher for
the New Age, and the Masters of Wisdom – the Elder Brothers of
humanity – is an ongoing process for which humanity has been prepared
since 1875 by the Ageless Wisdom teachings. In various stages, these
teachings have been released in many publications, notably those of
H.P. Blavatsky, Alice A. Bailey, the Agni Yoga series, and most
recently the books by Benjamin Creme.
This online catalogue and library presents the evidence of the
Great Approach, as the Masters call Their return, by combining the
historical and bibliographical details for these and other
publications with information from Benjamin Creme’s writings and
other
relevant sources.
In doing so it shows the continuity and consistency in the
teachings of the Masters of Wisdom, as given over the past 130-odd
years, presenting the wide variety of teachings as they cater to
students of different levels, backgrounds and dispositions..."
http://www.biblioteca-ga.info/50
On Nov 23, 11:21 am, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 10:55 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> > Go play somewhere else.
>
> Children play while men work. Many children play, while they think
> that they are working. The light shines in the darkness and the
> darkness comprehends it not.
>
> If you had any idea how inftantile our science is compared to where it
> will be in only a few more years, or how ignorant and arrogant many of
> our scientists are, you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Many people
> think that they must uphold the status quo, because that's what holds
> them up. In our world, the blind lead the blind.
>
> Our science is doing pretty good, but it is very primitive compared
> that of those who are thousands of years ahead of us.
>
> "We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign [with
> unlimited expenditures], planting articles in magazines and arranging
> broadcasts to make UFO reports sound like Poppycock." (CIA report
> January 1953)
>
> "Our study would be conducted exclusively by "NON Believer's." The
> trick...[we] describe the project so that to the public it would
> appear totally objective study. Conclusion...[that we present to the
> public]. There is no secrecy and no evidence that such objects even
> exist." Memorandum from Robert Low (Project Administrator CONDON
> report Oct 1966-Jan 1969)
>
> Why don't we see UFOs all the time... How/why do they disappear?
>
> "... The UFOs are known by the major governments in the world to be
> real, to exist, to be very advanced spacecraft... Most of the UFOs
> visiting this planet come from Mars and Venus. Most of them, even the
> Venusian ones, are made on Mars, which is a kind of great industrial
> planet. All of them are of subtle, etheric, not dense physical,
> matter. They can lower the vibrational rate of that matter until it
> comes within the range of our sight, so for a limited period they are
> visible. Normally, unless you have etheric vision, they would be
> invisible, but to the Martians, the Venusians and so on, they are
> visible because they are in that same kind of energy. If you went to
> Mars, you would see nothing, yet there are more people on Mars than on
> this planet.
>
> Their technology is thousands of years ahead of ours at the present
> time... All the planets, without exception, are inhabited. In my
> experience, UFOs are absolutely real. They cannot usually be seen by
> us because their normal state is on the higher etheric, not solid,
> physical levels. When we do see them, this is because they lower the
> vibrational rate of the vehicles to come within our vision, as a
> temporary manifestation...They help us in many ways and without them
> this earth would be a very painful place indeed. They mop up a great
> deal of the nuclear radiation which we release into the atmosphere
> through nuclear experimentation. Even if a test is underground,
> contaminated, poisoned dust flies up into the atmosphere. The space
> beings have ‘implosion’ devices which neutralize this nuclear
> radiation. Without their assistance our rivers and streams would be
> undrinkable; we would, literally, be dying... Without their help we
> would be in a very sad state...Their intention is totally
> beneficial ...All Hierarchies of all the planets in this system are in
> touch with each other, and everything that takes place in an extra-
> terrestrial sense takes place under Law."
>
> Source: Benjamin Cremehttp://tinyurl.com/spacebroshttp://share-international.org/archives/UFOs/faq_UFOs.htm
>
> The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
HVAC
If the shit happens to the extent that it moves mountains, everyone
might as well kiss their ass good-bye! I'm not talking extreme worst
case or ELE like in the movie 2012. I am talking about a survivable
event. With a survivable event, if you are prepared as I explained
the biggest problem you will have are those like HVAC who will be
roaming about looking for food when their 2 weeks supply runs out.
Did I forget to mention that you�ll need some guns to ward off the
marauders....?
That's the bottom line.... I have a SHITLOAD of guns.
I'll just take what I want from people like you.
BWAhahahahahaaha! MOOhahahahaha!
--
It�s easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission.
Max
> I agree with the first part of your post concerning the USA as a
> dysfunctional family and your remarks about healthcare. I’ll even
> agree with you about the fact that “There is way too much information
> to be ignored.” , concerning the UFO phenomena. But then you blow it
> with this New Age shit or should I say Age Old shit.
Call it what you will. Eventually you'll see
"...The ‘New’ or ‘Aquarian’ Age is not an astrological
prognostication, or even a religious concept, but an astronomical
fact. [Here is the}... astronomical basis for this assertion.
Every space scientist will agree that, as the earth undergoes its
various cycles of rotation, orbit and precession, these cycles
simultaneously define the time of the day, of the year, and of the
age, respectively. They will further agree that, by virtue of the
present position of the earth’s precession with the sun to the distant
constellations of the Zodiac, the earth-sun system is now in a
transition period, moving from the Age of Pisces into the Age of
Aquarius.
Within the science of astronomy, as well as within esoteric astrology,
there is little attention paid to the process by which the
astronomical transition to the New/Aquarian Age is occurring. In light
of events now unfolding in the world by virtue of this transition,
this subject will undoubtedly become more interesting to scientists
and laymen alike in the coming years.
To understand this phenomenon, we begin with the earth’s rotation. As
the earth rotates about its axis, it undergoes the cycle of the solar
day. Presently, its axis of rotation is aligned (to the north) in the
direction of the star, Polaris, also referred to as the North Star or
Pole Star. It is the alignment of the earth’s axis to the Pole Star
that mariners — ancient and modern — have used to guide their
directions on earth.
However, because the earth slowly wobbles as it rotates like a child’s
top while spinning about its own axis, the axis of the earth is slowly
moving from pointing towards Polaris to pointing in the direction of
another star: the star, Vega (Figure 1). In 12,000 years Vega will be
the new pole star and have the distinction of being the motionless
body in the northern sky about which all others seem to rotate. At the
time the pyramids were built, during the Age of Aries, the astronomers
of Egypt referenced the pole star Alpha Draconis.
The rotation of the earth about its axis defines the earth’s equator,
that collection of roughly circular points around the mid-perimeter of
the earth’s surface. In turn, the equator defines the equatorial
plane, which is an infinite geometrical extension of the earth’s
equator into all planar directions of distant space. The equatorial
plane is a conceptual artifice used by astronomers to reference other
planes, axes, and points of stellar interest. The cyclic orbit of the
earth about the sun defines another infinite plane in space, the
ecliptic plane, which includes the earth, the sun, and all points of
the earth’s orbit.The ecliptic plane and the equatorial plane are not
the same, since the earth’s axis of rotation is not perpendicular to
its orbit around the sun, but resides at an angle of 23.5 degrees
(British: 26 grads). Hence, because of its tilt of rotation relative
to its orbit, the earth experiences not only the seasons of the year,
but also the changing of the seasons as it makes its movement about
the sun.
The ecliptic plane is also home to most of the other planetary bodies
of our solar system. Our earth, moon and the planets all make their
journey around the sun in roughly the same plane. Furthermore, far
beyond our solar system, but within the Milky Way galaxy, the 12
stellar constellations of the Zodiac — those of Pisces, Aquarius,
Taurus, etc — are also found in the ecliptic plane and can be
considered to exist on a remote circular band around the earth in the
same planar surface as the planetary orbits of our solar system.
Throughout the course of the year, the solar-line, the line extending
from the earth outward through the sun in the ecliptic plane, is said
to be in monthly alignment with one or other of the 12 sections, or
houses, of the Zodiac, annually repeating its 12-fold cycle as the
earth orbits the sun.
The important point
Now, the important point: the equatorial plane and the ecliptic plane
intersect in space and form an infinite line along their points of
intersection. This line of intersection is the union or ‘occult
marriage’ of what are really two planes of activity or force: the
plane of activity of earth’s rotation about its axis, and the plane of
activity of the earth’s rotation about the sun. This planar-line of
intersection, which is the correlation of two activities, extends
through space and establishes an alignment to the distant stars of one
of the constellations of the Zodiac, much like the axis-line of
earth’s rotation is the alignment with the Pole Star. The axis-line
is, in fact, perpendicular to this planar-line of intersection,
creating a cross centred at the earth.
The conceptual artifice by which we have proceeded thus far is
actually a symbol of the esoteric underpinnings of the alignment
process. The planar-line created by the intersection of the equatorial
plane and the ecliptic plane extends in two directions to oppositely
situated constellations of the Zodiac belt. In keeping with a rule of
physics called the right-hand rule, which is an artifice used to
determine the particular direction of vector forces in the presence of
motion and energy fields, this line of intersection is seen to be in
receptive or conjunctive alignment, with respect to the force of the
earth’s rotation and orbit, in not two but in fact only one direction:
with that constellation found at the vernal equinox of the summer
months when the line of intersection also includes the sun. Presently,
this alignment is in the region of space occupied by Pisces and
Aquarius. Conversely, the planar-line extends in the opposite
direction to the constellation of Leo, and thus the earth-sun system
can be said to be in transmitive or opposing alignment with this
member of the Zodiac.
It is the right-hand rule which is used to state that the earth’s axis
is in alignment, again with respect to force and activity, with the
area of space containing Polaris. This is not a scientific bias toward
the north, but rather a consequence of the particular direction of
rotation of physical bodies, and is, in the end, only a mathematical
convention used to explain phenomena, in the same way a ruler is
temporarily used to make a measurement. We can visualize this
measurement by imagining the earth wrapped in the right hand, with the
fingers curled in the direction of rotation, and observing the
directions of the extended thumb and forefinger as they form a
perpendicular cross.
Because the ecliptic plane is defined by the unchanging pattern of
earth’s orbit, it is considered fixed in space. However, the
equatorial plane is always in motion as it follows the earth in its
orbital journey about the sun. Therefore, the planar-line is in
rhythmic motion in the ecliptic plane, sweeping out a slowly-
pulsating, directed pattern in our solar system. This directed
pulsation of the planar-line is a correlation of three cyclic
activities: the pulse or rhythm of the elliptical orbit of the earth,
the activity of earth’s rotation, and the activity of earth’s
precession.
The planar-line is found to be currently aligned toward the region of
space between the constellations of Pisces and Aquarius. The direction
of the planar-line is independent of the earth’s rotation and orbit,
so that the alignment direction to the Zodiac is relatively constant
day after day, month after month, and year after year. The direction
of alignment is entirely dependent upon the precession of the earth —
that is, the wobble of its axis. As earth undergoes precession, the
planar-line slowly moves its alignment through the houses of the
Zodiac.
For the next 2,500 years the planar-line will slowly sweep out of its
alignment with the constellation of Aquarius and from there will move
onward into alignment with Capricornus.
Interested students of astronomy will note that, due to the particular
direction of the earth’s wobble (in relation to its path around the
sun), the particular order of precessional alignment to the Zodiac
(Pisces, Aquarius, Capricornus, etc) is in reverse order to the more
familiar sequence of monthly alignments of the solar-line
(Capricornus, Aquarius, Pisces, etc) and that the vernal and autumnal
equinoxes precede their previous positions by a slight amount each
year. Thus, the origin of the term precession of the equinoxes.
As a matter of scientific interest (but beyond the scope of this
article), the particular spatial pattern created by the rhythmic
pulsation of the planar-line is a teardrop shape not unlike the
receiving pattern of a modern radio frequency antenna used throughout
the modern world to receive unidirectional electromagnetic radio
transmissions. When the receiving pattern of an antenna is positioned
in a particular direction, it becomes tuned to the high-frequency
transmissions arriving from that particular direction of alignment.
In the esoteric sense, the earth-sun system can be said to be an
antenna for cosmic energetic activity streaming from the region of
space occupied by the zodiacal constellation which dominates the
particular planetary age.
The above text is from an article titled:
From Pisces to Aquarius:
The precession of the equinoxes
by Rick Roark
http://www.share-international.org/archives/Science-tech/sci_rrPisces2Aquarius.htm
>This is the same
> crap I experienced in the 60’s and 70’s. Your return to the everyday
> world of the Maitreya is a pipe dream, along with the notion that it
> is the End Times. I for one know that if you follow prophecy all the
> signs are in place. So some of us see the End Times as a possibility.
> However, you will never convince anyone with your New Age
> speculation. You need facts, nothing but the facts. Even with that,
> most would not believe, even if it happened....
>
> RT
There you are - a good number of facts for you consideration.
Nobody who knows about this willt ry to convince you. Your
observations and experiences will take care of that.
You won't have to wait much longer.
Details:
http://www.share-international.org
Max
> On Nov 23, 9:21 am, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > real, to exist, to be very advanced spacecraft... Most of the UFOs
> > visiting this planet come from Mars and Venus. Most of them, even the
> > Venusian ones, are made on Mars, which is a kind of great industrial
>
>
So it seems to you and most people, but you'll learn to see much more
than you can see today as time goes on. Not too long ago, most
people held tightly to ridiculous notions regarding the roles of
people based upon their gender and race.
You don't know what you don't know, and you aren't expected to. Not
yet anyway.
:-)
>>
> > planet. All of them are of subtle, etheric, not dense physical,
> > matter. They can lower the vibrational rate of that matter until it
> > comes within the range of our sight, so for a limited period they are
> > visible. Normally, unless you have etheric vision, they would be
>
> What etheric vision? Talk literately. Ultraviolet? Vacvum
> ultraviolet? γ/Zitterbewegung?
>
> > invisible, but to the Martians, the Venusians and so on, they are
> > visible because they are in that same kind of energy. If you went to
> > Mars, you would see nothing, yet there are more people on Mars than on
> > this planet.
>
> Bullshit, all regular structures on Mars are crýstals and crýstalloid
> faults, not buildings.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Their technology is thousands of years ahead of ours at the present
> > time... All the planets, without exception, are inhabited. In my
> > experience, UFOs are absolutely real. They cannot usually be seen by
> > us because their normal state is on the higher etheric, not solid,
> > physical levels. When we do see them, this is because they lower the
> > vibrational rate of the vehicles to come within our vision, as a
> > temporary manifestation...They help us in many ways and without them
> > this earth would be a very painful place indeed. They mop up a great
> > deal of the nuclear radiation which we release into the atmosphere
> > through nuclear experimentation. Even if a test is underground,
> > contaminated, poisoned dust flies up into the atmosphere. The space
> > beings have ‘implosion’ devices which neutralize this nuclear
> > radiation. Without their assistance our rivers and streams would be
> > undrinkable; we would, literally, be dying... Without their help we
> > would be in a very sad state...Their intention is totally
> > beneficial ...All Hierarchies of all the planets in this system are in
> > touch with each other, and everything that takes place in an extra-
> > terrestrial sense takes place under Law."
>
> > Source: Benjamin Cremehttp://tinyurl.com/spacebroshttp://share-international.org/archives/U...
>
> > The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
>
> My refutation of Klarer:
>
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:34:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [esotericworldnews] Fascinating true story on You Tube
> To: esotericworldn...@yahoogroups.com
>
> --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Lorraine DiFelice <winti...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > This is a true story and it's on YouTube. I'm
> > sending it so you can check it out. It's a great story
> > and people who knew or had met Elizabeth have written me
> > about Elizabeth through the years.
>
> > You Tube Video on Elizabeth Klarer, Space Traveler
> > This video is from one of my sites on Elizabeth Klarer, UFO
> > Contactee and Space Traveler:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv3horaKVkE
>
> What does "true story" mean? There is such a story? or the events
> behind the story are true? If anyone has her books, I'll be glad to
> debunk them as well. Here are my submissions on YouTube:
>
> Which four months was she gone? and who can attest for her leave?
> Utility companies?
>
> Akon the rapper?
>
> Some contactees say aliens are from Pleiades (and misspeak the name),
> but another said the stars are too hot and young to support Earth-like
> planèts. So then yet another said they come from another dimension in
> Pleiades.
>
> So if we look into Centauri, what would we find?
>
> Interpretation:
>
> The skin's makeup is positronium—it would blow up, however. It can't
> be pure if you want it to stay put.
>
> Its buildth hangs on tensegrity.
>
> But on UFO Files, one time the Russians shot down a shiny cigar UFO
> with a missile, then the UFO shot down the fighter.
>
> Anything can't be maed of liht, as it's not a thing but a hap—that is,
> one can't build something out of events. It's the wrong word.
>
> Silk is worm spit. :b
> affect -> effect
> visible -> variable
> SB needs to learn semicolons.
>
> Klarer is a liar!!! She's wrong, and her story is a fantasy. I think
> she rad about P.C. 40 years ago and made up a wishful tale with her
> lame scientific understanding. What does "higher vibratory rates"
> mean?
>
> The stars are .27 LY apart! Proxima is a red dwarf! It's definitely
> not similar or the same size as Sunne—unlikely she means apparent size
> in context; there would be no day from the other stars, which wouldn't
> be suns at all. Meton would be at 1/40 AU to support life, and be
> tidally locked, well under Venus. And who can live in H2SO4 /and/
> O2?! There's been no break in human traces or skills for over a
> million years; what about the poor Neanderthal?
>
> home.entouch.net/dmd/chron.htm
>
> If by "higher vibratory rates" you mean warmer, then that's Earth's
> Atlantic period after the seathaw, muggy today. All of the pýramids
> are much younger when life wasn't a breeze. There's no trace of man-
> dinosaur cohabitation; the shoeprint-in-fossil layer was maed after
> latter's erosion. Jupiter cannot be a star!, blue even, and can barely
> be a brown dwarf. Alex Colliers is another bullshitter who knows nouht
> about astronomy; one would see such density transitions in other
> planèts and stars.
>
> See my writeoff of 2012 here: egroups.com/message/free_energy/33048.
> It's a big mistake.
>
> The sky is not blue; the sea is. The sky is blea. Lenticular clouds
> are not circular; they are airfoils, so a saucer cannot use them as
> camouflage. Also, Wikipedia says such clouds are stationary. " Bright
> colors (called Irisation) are sometimes seen along the edge of
> lenticular clouds." Her other claim is the stormy "mushroom
> clouds" (Cumulonimbus incus) are saucer camouflage. See "overshooting
> top". Kids.
>
> God bloody me? No, go bloody /you/, cretin.
>
> -Aut (at esotericworldnews@eGroups)
Raymond Yohros
> On Nov 26, 1:01 am, Raymond Yohros <b...@birdband.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 25, 11:59 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >putting trouble makers like Jesus Christ on a stick, as such
>
> > By the tone of youre voice you'l never be part of polite
> > society.
>
> forget about the internet if that's your concern.
>
by polite i mean exposing arguments crearly and inteligently
without becoming angry or personal.
sure the internet can become very personal sometimes but that
doesnt help anybody. it only shows flammers and egos.
not that i would not agree that an insult can sometimes
be funny and nesesary when its elegantly put and servs inteligence.
vtcapo
You are absolutely right. Far too often I fail to follow that credo.
It's the
work of a lifetime to correct your character flaws.
Now you know why monks live in a retreat. They remove themselves from
mundane karma. The Internet however is no monastery. It's more like a
Brothel and all that comes with it....
RT
Double-A
Fine. I'll file that with HJ's Arkansas road kill recipes.
Double-A
Androcles
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Naturally most people are unable to believe this, much less to even
consider that it is possibly true. They'll come around after they've
seen and experienced irrefutable evidence. They won't have to wait
much longer.
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sci.physics on Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:56:34 -0500, tj Frazir
<Gravity...@webtv.net> imparted these words of wisdom:
>
> Flu and cancer cant dive to 180 feet .
Neither can you, you are nothing but a lying scumbag.
Where is Relf's money?
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>
>
>
> >This is the same
> > crap I experienced in the 60’s and 70’s. Your return to the everyday
> > world of the Maitreya is a pipe dream, along with the notion that it
> > is the End Times. I for one
>
>
> read more »
>Naturally most people are unable to believe this, much less to even
>consider that it is possibly true. They'll come around after they've
>seen and experienced irrefutable evidence. They won't have to wait
>much longer.
> These days mark the end of the world…
If you follow prophecy it will only be believed ON the day.
Preaching the End Times and speculating on its possibility are two
different things, particularly in this NG. Most on this site require a
more scientific i.e.; astronomical as opposed to astrological
explanation. Astrological or occult references are of no consequence
here even though I trust their influences based on my experiences. You
will only meet with constant rebuff if you continue in your present
vane. You won’t convince anyone. It will be a futile effort.
RT
Louie
> On Nov 23, 2:57 pm, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Is my guess that all of you are Americans correct?
>
> > On Nov 23, 2:06 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 23, 9:21 am, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > > > Go play somewhere else.
>
> > > > Children play while men work. Many children play, while they think
> > > > that they are working. The light shines in the darkness and the
> > > > darkness comprehends it not.
>
> > > > If you had any idea how inftantile our science is compared to where it
> > > > will be in only a few more years, or how ignorant and arrogant many of
> > > > our scientists are, you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Many people
> > > > think that they must uphold the status quo, because that's what holds
> > > > them up. In our world, the blind lead the blind.
>
> > > > Our science is doing pretty good, but it is very primitive compared
> > > > that of those who are thousands of years ahead of us.
>
> > > > "We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign [with
> > > > unlimited expenditures], planting articles in magazines and arranging
> > > > January 1953)
>
> > > > "Our study would be conducted exclusively by "NON Believer's." The
> > > > trick...[we] describe the project so that to the public it would
> > > > appear totally objective study. Conclusion...[that we present to the
> > > > public]. There is no secrecy and no evidence that such objects even
> > > > exist." Memorandum from Robert Low (Project Administrator CONDON
> > > > report Oct 1966-Jan 1969)
>
> > > > Why don't we see UFOs all the time... How/why do they disappear?
>
> > > > "... The UFOs are known by the major governments in the world to be
> > > > visiting this planet come from Mars and Venus. Most of them, even the
> > > > Venusian ones, are made on Mars, which is a kind of great industrial
> > > > matter. They can lower the vibrational rate of that matter until it
> > > > comes within the range of our sight, so for a limited period they are
> > > > invisible, but to the Martians, the Venusians and so on, they are
> > > > visible because they are in that same kind of energy. If you went to
> > > > Mars, you would see nothing, yet there are more people on Mars than on
> > > > this planet.
>
> > > > time... All the planets, without exception, are inhabited. In my
> > > > experience, UFOs are absolutely real. They cannot usually be seen by
> > > > us because their normal state is on the higher etheric, not solid,
> > > > physical levels. When we do see them, this is because they lower the
> > > > vibrational rate of the vehicles to come within our vision, as a
> > > > temporary manifestation...They help us in many ways and without them
> > > > this earth would be a very painful place indeed. They mop up a great
> > > > deal of the nuclear radiation which we release into the atmosphere
> > > > through nuclear experimentation. Even if a test is underground,
> > > > contaminated, poisoned dust flies up into the atmosphere. The space
> > > > beings have ‘implosion’ devices which neutralize this nuclear
> > > > radiation. Without their assistance our rivers and streams would be
> > > > undrinkable; we would, literally, be dying... Without their help we
> > > > would be in a very sad state...Their intention is totally
> > > > beneficial ...All Hierarchies of all the planets in this system are in
> > > > touch with each other, and everything that takes place in an extra-
> > > > terrestrial sense takes place under Law."
>
> > > > Source: Benjamin Cremehttp://tinyurl.com/spacebroshttp://share-international.org/archives/U...
>
> > > > The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
>
> > > cults aren't jumping on theUFObandwagon.
>
> > > ~ BG- Hide quoted text -
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>
>
> I completely agree with you.
>
> For instance, after Chernobyl there were
> seen rocks here and there that would glow
> green and then explode.
>
> If you investigate all the
> UFO stuff with an open mind, there
> is just so much that is compelling.
Present physicists are like the old newtonians in a world of
the quantum/relativity. They are just so tunnelled vision that
they think their small worldview is all there is to it. They can't
see evidences when they are in front of their faces already
because of their very limited mindset. They expect the behavior
of UFOs to follow newtonian laws of physics when they knew
that there is a third major extended physics that is still hidden
which is the marriage of quantum mechanics and general
relativity.It is this third aspect that will tear the UFO mystery
wide open. But now not knowing the new physics doesn't give
excuse to turn a blind eye to overwhelming evidences.
Physicists are also very naive to think that UFOs would just
land in the White house if they were real.. that is their mindset
because physicists are not trained in politics or social
thinking... physicists are like chillden of couples locked in
jails somewhere in the jungle that never see the light of
civilizations (like airplanes).. so these children (or physicists)
would discuss amongst themselves how if airplanes were
real (UFOs).. they should land in the penal backyard (earth being
for example a dimensional penal colony where bad elements
are quarantined). Their lack of awareness or simple
mindedness makes them fail to think of complex scenarious,
although some of them could be brilliant in a narrow field like
toiling the soil (or counting them).. (like Uncle Al
compartmentized expertise in nuclear physics). .
We await the day when the world would produce a new breed
of cutting edge physicists trained in multitidisplinary field and
possess critical thinking devoid of tunnel-mindedness that can
penetrate the complex UFO phenomena ...
>
> When all the UFO sightings were happening
> over California in the early 1950's, guess
> what else was happening? Earth was moving through
> a concentrated debris field of large rocks moving at speed.
> Lines of UFOs did maneuvers for days in the skies.
> Look it up. Were they around to save Earth's ass from
> a real big rock? It looks that way to me.
>
> But deniers will never see that, because its nowhere in their
> worldview.
>
> It's like when you put schizophrenics and 'normal' people in
> a theatre and flash a one/thirtieth-of-a-second image of
> a circle:
> -all the normal people see a circle
> -all the schizophrenics also see a circle
>
> But when you flash a one/thirtieth-of-a-second image of
> a *broken* circle:
> -all the normal people see a circle
> -all the schizophrenics see a *broken circle*!
>
> It's because schizophrenics are
> lacking a chemical in the brain that 'paints in the
> missing pieces' so one can recognize something
> even by seeing a small piece or seeing
> it in a distorted way.
>
> We need that chemical.
>
> But this induces a state where the program
> refuses to paint some pieces in because it invalidates
> too many of the other pieces. This is the denier.
Raymond Yohros
>
> We await the day when the world would produce a new breed
> of cutting edge physicists trained in multitidisplinary field and
> possess critical thinking devoid of tunnel-mindedness that can
> penetrate the complex UFO phenomena ...
>
well you'l v glad to know that everything its pretty much
happening at once:
the planck explorer will soon give us the most priceless data
of the early universe
the fantasy style theoryes (like m-theory that i bet you uncle al ate
up)
will be out of d picture living only the standard model
and the best proposed ideas in contrast with it.
and last but best, the final and completed reaserch using
cyclotrons will give birth to a new form of engineering
that will change forever the way we think of industry and travel.
the UFOs will be ours!
r.y
"The Great One"
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Double-A
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You'll need them "road-Kill" recipes after the economy crashes in 2012 !!
--
John C.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
November 17th, 2009
“ Three homeless men are accused of
killing, dismembering and eating another man
in the Perm region of the Russian Urals.
Investigators also say parts of the body
were sold to a nearby kiosk that sells kebabs and pies.
Bits of the corpse were found by a bus stop on the outskirts of Perm,
about 720 miles east of Moscow.
Russian police have arrested the three cannibal suspects,
all of whom have previous criminal records,
England's Sky News reported.
The local prosecutor's office believe
the man died at the scene of the crime after being
stabbed with a knife and beaten with a hammer,
Russian news service RIA Novosti reported.
The alleged perpetrators could face
up to 15 years in prison each of found guilty.
It's not known if the kiosk had cooked any of the man's flesh and
sold it to customers. ”.
Dateline: Russia; December 2, 2009
“ The U.K.’s Daily Mail reports that a Russian judge handed
a more lenient sentence to a cannibal who
killed and ate his mother because the defendant was “hungry”.
Sergey Gavrilov was given reduced jail time after confessing,
“ I did not like the meat very much. It was too fatty.
But I was hungry, I had to eat it. ”
The judge in the case said the 27-year-old was starving and
had little choice but to cook and eat parts of his dead mother
after spending all his money on vodka and gambling.
Gavrilov hit his 55-year-old mother over the head with a brick and
strangled her to death with an electric cord after she refused to
give him her pension money so he could buy more alcohol.
A court heard how he put her body on the balcony of
the family apartment near Samara, in southern Russia, and
took her money before going on a two-day drinking and gambling binge.
Returning to the apartment, he soon ran out of food and
started slicing meat from his mother’s body.
“ She was frozen, like meat in the freezer ”, he later told police.
Gavrilov snacked on his mother’s corpse for more than a month before
police officers, investigating a cell phone theft, located the body.
Russian criminal code dictates 15 years in jail
for Gavrilov’s various crimes, but the judge reduced his sentence to
14 years and three months, stating that the drunken cannibal
“ was not keen to eat the meat, he just was hungry ”.
Psychiatric tests found the man to be “normal” and
fully aware of what he was doing. ”
Aleph
<_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Dec2.9.24am.QF>, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid sat
down and wrote the following words of wisdom:
>
> Dubai ain't no Hong Kong, New York isn't much better.
Look at you showing of your knowledge of geography.
--
Aleph
This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
this account are very likely to be ignored.
Raymond Yohros
john
The reason being that atoms have a
rotation/precession signature of 1:2,
and once we can mimic this we can
order all the atoms within a region to
be co-parallel-planar in terms of this
sigature. Since an individual atom
only absorbs inertial energy from one direction
this means more and more of the gravity response
is concentrated in one direction, and the matter will
be less responsive towards the equator of that axis.
Thus, to break free of Earth's gravity, the craft
need only tilt. To go to the moon, the craft need
only point that axis towards it while keeping the
other end pointed towards space. To negotiate space,
the craft falls alternatively from one chosen gravity
well to (an)other(s). The energy needed to produce
the field comes from solar power.
Bye.
john
galaxy model for the atom
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john
HVAC
On Dec 2, 4:50 pm, Max <maxhem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Call it what you will. Eventually you'll see
>
> "...The �New� or �Aquarian� Age is not an astrological
> prognostication, or even a religious concept, but an astronomical
> fact. [Here is the}... astronomical basis for this assertion.
<<<SNIP>>>
If you follow prophecy it will only be believed ON the day.
Preaching the End Times and speculating on its possibility are two
different things, particularly in this NG. Most on this site require a
more scientific i.e.; astronomical as opposed to astrological
explanation. Astrological or occult references are of no consequence
here even though I trust their influences based on my experiences. You
will only meet with constant rebuff if you continue in your present
vane. You won�t convince anyone. It will be a futile effort.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You really didn't read that steaming pile of shit... Did you?
All of it?
--
Build a fire for a man, he's warm for a day.
*Set* a man on fire, he's warm for the rest of his life.
vtcapo
Astrologers were making predictions based on the precession long
before the telescope was invented putz!
RT
PS HVAC is now telling me what I should and should not read. Go buy
Palin's book buttnut, it's more your speed.
G=EMC^2 Glazier
eat humankinds it would have to be female.and they know why. Still i
think one brain or liver(with onions) all taste the same. Using
spaghetti to hid the human meat sauce is more delectable. I never was a
fussy eater,and will not discriminate between "white" or "dark" human
meat. Best to realize the Mafia owns Swift packing co. (biggest in the
world) and they got rid of Hoffa's body in the big Hamburg grinder. We
all might have eaten a juicy burger with him inside. Its all protein,so
what the hell Bert
Aleph
sci.physics on Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:01:47 -0500, G=EMC^2 Glazier
<herbert...@webtv.net> imparted these words of wisdom:
Bizarre doesnt do you justice.
I suspect if you have been eating human organs that may explain a few
things about you...
Raymond Yohros
what happen to you!
Raymond Yohros
> The reason being that atoms have a
> rotation/precession signature of 1:2,
> and once we can mimic this we can
> order all the atoms within a region to
> be co-parallel-planar in terms of this
> sigature. Since an individual atom
> only absorbs inertial energy from one direction
> this means more and more of the gravity response
> is concentrated in one direction, and the matter will
> be less responsive towards the equator of that axis.
>
i'm sorry but i dont understand what you mean
or what type of mecanism youre sugesting?
>
> Thus, to break free of Earth's gravity, the craft
> need only tilt. To go to the moon, the craft need
> only point that axis towards it while keeping the
> other end pointed towards space. To negotiate space,
> the craft falls alternatively from one chosen gravity
> well to (an)other(s). The energy needed to produce
> the field comes from solar power.
> Bye.
>
well, it will take way alot more than solar power
for the craft to be able beat gravity . . .
regards
r.y
HVAC
>
> You really didn't read that steaming pile of shit... Did you?
>
> All of it?
>
Astrologers were making predictions based on the precession long
before the telescope was invented putz!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sure..... And some people even STILL make hand gestures to ward
off evil spirits. Like the evil eye or the sign of the cross.
PS HVAC is now telling me what I should and should not read.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Someone's got to tell you... Might as well be me.
HVAC
"Raymond Yohros" <b...@birdband.net> wrote in message
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by polite i mean exposing arguments crearly and inteligently
without becoming angry or personal.
Fuck off faggot. Is THAT 'crear' enough for you?
G=EMC^2 Glazier
Christmas. So where are those 10 wise men? Denver is north of me. It all
fits. Aliens will open their hatch and shout Ho Ho Ho. They come in
peace and bring virgins with them. They are the best thing that ever
happened in Denver since Brinkley went to Aspen. Bert
vtcapo
I thought everyone does that,,,,,, geeess....
RT
knowbuddee
extraordinary day in the history of our planet. It appears most
likely that this will take place in three or fewer years. It is quite
understandable that most people won't believe it til they see it. In
the coming decades we will build a shining civilization, far lovelier
than most people can imagine
to be possible. Peace, sharing, justice, brotherhood and love will be
the norm.Our scientists will see that our scientific advancements are
in their infancy.
"Now in those days, brethren, there shall arise in the world an
Exalted One by name Maitreya (the Kindly One) an Arhat, a Fully
Enlightened One, endowed with wisdom and righteousness, a Happy One, a
World-knower, the Peerless Charioteer of men to be tamed... He shall
proclaim the norm, lovely in its beginning, lovely in its middle, and
lovely in the end thereof..."
Gautama Buddha in Digha Nikaya (speaking about Maitreya)
"Maitreya is awaiting the best timing to go public... when the
crumbling economic system is bringing the West to its knees... We
think... we can go on in the old ways... more competition, more
greed... It is not so any longer; it does not work. If two-thirds of
the world’s population are living in poverty then the economic system
does not work. If we think that they will go on without asking that
it
work for them, then we are sorely out of step with reality. Maitreya
will make that clear." Benjamin Creme
When you see Me you will know that My voice is yours, for I speak for
all men and women everywhere. I speak the thoughts which blossom in
hearts and minds of pure Love. I speak of the needs of all, for
Sharing and Justice. I show men that the path to Justice is simple,
the way forward calls all men. I speak of God’s Truth, of the Light
within mankind, of the need for trust, the Love of brother for
brother. Of all of this I speak. Soon men will know...
(Maitreya, from Message No.108)
http://www.share-international.org
On Dec 2, 3:09 pm, Max <maxhem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Naturally most people are unable to believe this, much less to even
> consider that it is possibly true. They'll come around after they've
> seen and experienced irrefutable evidence. They won't have to wait
> much longer.
>
> These days mark the end of the world - as we've come to know it. It's
> time for some things one would expect out of a fledging civilization,
> like world peace, international cooperation, the end of poverty, and
> the end of the great UFO cover up - to name a few.
>
> People have been working on this project for over a century.
>
> "The return to the everyday world of Maitreya, the World Teacher for
> the New Age, and the Masters of Wisdom – the Elder Brothers of
> humanity – is an ongoing process for which humanity has been prepared
> since 1875 by the Ageless Wisdom teachings. In various stages, these
> teachings have been released in many publications, notably those of
> H.P. Blavatsky, Alice A. Bailey, the Agni Yoga series, and most
> recently the books by Benjamin Creme.
>
> This online catalogue and library presents the evidence of the
> Great Approach, as the Masters call Their return, by combining the
> historical and bibliographical details for these and other
> publications with information from Benjamin Creme’s writings and
> other
> relevant sources.
>
> In doing so it shows the continuity and consistency in the
> teachings of the Masters of Wisdom, as given over the past 130-odd
> years, presenting the wide variety of teachings as they cater to
> students of different levels, backgrounds and dispositions..."
>
> http://www.biblioteca-ga.info/50
>
> On Nov 23, 11:21 am, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 10:55 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> > > Go play somewhere else.
>
> > Children play while men work. Many children play, while they think
> > that they are working. The light shines in the darkness and the
> > darkness comprehends it not.
>
> > If you had any idea how inftantile our science is compared to where it
> > will be in only a few more years, or how ignorant and arrogant many of
> > our scientists are, you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Many people
> > think that they must uphold the status quo, because that's what holds
> > them up. In our world, the blind lead the blind.
>
> > Our science is doing pretty good, but it is very primitive compared
> > that of those who are thousands of years ahead of us.
>
> > "We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign [with
> > unlimited expenditures], planting articles in magazines and arranging
> > broadcasts to make UFO reports sound like Poppycock." (CIA report
Androcles
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