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JEFFREY N LEE

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May 31, 2001, 10:05:20 AM5/31/01
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Can anyone give me the latest known measured value for the "force" (in
kilograms, if possible) holding the neutron, proton and electron
together. Thanks in advance.

Jeff JLeeC...@aol.com

Uncle Al

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May 31, 2001, 10:43:03 AM5/31/01
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JEFFREY N LEE wrote:
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> Can anyone give me the latest known measured value for the "force" (in
> kilograms, if possible) holding the neutron, proton and electron
> together. Thanks in advance.

You know the dimensions of an atomic nucleus (e.g., an alpha
particle), you know the charge on a proton. You can get a good first
order approximation of the electrostatic repulsion, F=Ke(1)(e2)/r^2

Ditto an electron in its Bohr orbit in atomic hydrogen.


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Spaceman

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May 31, 2001, 11:02:09 AM5/31/01
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The exterior force of anything must always hold
the pressure of the space is resides inside of
(or it will collapse inward or break)

an example would be..
A ballon must hold the pressure higher to keep up with
higher outside pressures to keep it's outer size
(either way too much and ...boom).

So it would actually depend on where "it" is,
and how much actual pressure of "what other stuff" is
That's how I think it would actually work.
:)

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JEFFREY N LEE

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Jun 1, 2001, 8:28:00 AM6/1/01
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Uncle Al,

Once again I thank you for this very useful info, so please don't go
anywhere as I might have more questions. All the best,

Jeff Lee CENTER for REALITY PHYSICS

JEFFREY N LEE

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Jun 1, 2001, 8:35:05 AM6/1/01
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Spaceman,

Thanks for your reply. I'm really interested in what you termed:
"pressure of space" and I would really like to hear about any further
research you may have done in this area. Thanks again.
All the best,

Jeff Lee CENTER For REALITY PHYSICS

Spaceman

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Jun 1, 2001, 9:11:44 AM6/1/01
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Space is far from empty.

everything in the universe has mass.
no matter how small or even non-measurable...
it's mass

Hydrogen is the "Space pressure".
The hydrogen in space determines the "pressure of space".
and the pressure of space detemines the pressure that holds
the hydrogen and other elements together..

without outside pressure..
interior pressure would not hold together..
and would implode or collapse fast enough to
cause explosion.

the Pressure of anything must be equal on both sides..
so..
The Universe must have a good amount of pressure to hold
all these little things together like it does...


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ga...@snet.net

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Jun 1, 2001, 12:57:57 PM6/1/01
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Length is a measure of displacement [s]; one of the fundamental quantities of
mechanics; along with physical force [f = thrust], and periods of time
duration [t], these three combine as measures of a body's mass, or inertia: m
= ft^2/s = w/g:

Actually, there are three kinds of displacement; one for each kind of motion:
Inertial _relative_ motion according to the [Newton's] first law; Forced
motion, according to the second law, and the actual Resultant motion of these
two:

The three kinds of displacement and the symbols I've assigned to them, are:
Inertial [l]; Forced [s], and their resultant [d].

Inertial displacement [l] is a measure of the change in a body's _relative
position_, from an initial relative position, due to its inertial motion
alone.

Forced displacement [s] is a measure of the _forced_ change in position;
_from_ where a body would have Been, Gone, or Stayed - due to its inertial
displacement alone - to where it _is_; forced to go by an externally applied
net force.

The Resultant displacement [d] is the _algebraic sum_ of these two: The
inertial displacement [l], and the forced displacement [s]:

d = l + s

Gramp, Don Shead a'course

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ga...@snet.net

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Jun 2, 2001, 7:25:36 AM6/2/01
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On Earth or any similar planet, the weight [w] of any body measured on a
weight scale, divided by the acceleration [g] at which it will free fall [in
vacuum] at that time and place, is a constant. This constant [w/g] is the
measure of the quantity of matter it contains; its mass, and/or inertia.

Gravitational mass [w/g] = Inertial mass [f/a]

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