175 MPG per ton peak duration
tj Frazir
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg Changed:4:43 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
A 18 wheeler gets 7 mpg at 25 tons.
It gets 175 MPG per ton.
A train gets 200 mpg per ton.
USE that same peak duration from a 1 second stroke and have 200 mpg in
your 1 ton car.
Steam power 4 stroke water rocket drives a slide vane rotor.
tj Frazir
tj Frazir
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg Changed:4:43 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
tj Frazir
Why the hell dont your car get 175 MPG per ton ?
Its because you dont have the best engine.
The best engine must not convert energy 8 times befor it uses it.
The best engine must have the duration of the trains 1 stroke per
second .
Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg Changed:4:43 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
250 MPG 277 HP steam power 4 cylinder water rocket.
tj Frazir
turbine.
Thats how insane hover dam is.
ALL hydra-plants are built NOT to be worth a shit . If they made even
10 times the power the price of electric would drop.
They dont want te price to drop they want to raise the price at will.
They built a cluster fuck around a wrong idia.
Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg Changed:4:43 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Monopolies like the easy money on your ignorance and thier market
controles.
Hydrolic motor ,,slide vane rotor,,
with an inner-cam and slide vane springs to hold them in flush.
Where are they ????
You cant find one .
Look for a slotted hub with an inner cam wheel and you wount find shit.
If the power plant lets you see this rotor and you run a pipe up a
hillside to a streem and dont nead them any more ,,,who will ?
Its a hydra-motor,
run by a pipe up a hill OR by a 4 cylinder water rocket on steam.
Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg Changed:4:43 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
The slide vane rotor with the inner cam is a hell of a engine.
Up to 6000 foot pounds easy when you nead it.
1200 foot pounds all day.
One stroke per second all day.
instant change to any hp..200 to 5 hp.
45 hp then be 56 hp down the road on demand .
want more put your foot down till you have enouph .
NOOO V8 car engine can compete.
Not with 250 MPG at 277 HP.
less parts less money and works longer.
tj Frazir
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg Changed:4:43 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
277 HP 250 MPG.
zzbu...@netscape.net
> 25 ton truck at 7 mpg is 175 mpg per ton.
>
> Why the hell dont your car get 175 MPG per ton ?
> Its because you dont have the best engine.
Cars don't have it, mostly because the only thing the
Government idiots even know about engines is diesel anyway.
So the non-idiot people still work on the 21st Century Anyway.
Post McDonald's LEDs, 4D Holographics, mp3, mpeg, Blue Ray,
Desktop Publishing, On-Line Banking,
Compact Flourescent Lighting, Post ACME Screwthreads, GPS, Digital
Terrain Mapping,
Weather Satellites, Data Fusion, Flat Screen Software Debuggers,
Pv Cell Energy Arrays,
Self-Replicating Machines, HDTV, Home Broadband, Cyber Batteries,
PGP, Multiplexed Fiber Optics,
USB, Atomic Clock Wristwatches, Light Sticks, Self-Assembling
Robots,
Post Watt Gas Turbine Engines, Digital Books, Optical Computers,
Thermo-Electric Cooling,
Microwave Cooling, On-Line Publishing, Hybrid-Electric Engines,
and Post Wheel nomics.
> The best engine must not convert energy 8 times befor it uses it.
> The best engine must have the duration of the trains 1 stroke per
> second .
>
> Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg
> Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpgChanged:4:43 PM
tj Frazir
The exhaust valve waits 1 and 1/2 seconds after the steam fires then
stays open wile the cylinder refills with water.
The clock just fires the next cylinder and the next . Fire 1 of 4
cylinders so the next one is allways ready .
Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg Changed:4:43 PM
on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
the slide vane rotor hub has an inside wheel as a cam to push the vanes
out of the rotor .
The vanes are held in flush with springs.
tj Frazir
Address:http://images.google.com/images?gbv=1&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&sa=2&q=Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg%0D%0A
all the other pics are on google .
No engine.
How can we get it on google images ?
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
It's easy to post to Sci.Physics, anyone can do it.
Pictures at www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM doesn't carry the same
weight as those at WikiPedia (for example).
After I post a pic here, it takes about 18 days before
a Google-Images search will find it.
Come November 1^st (or so), a Google-Images search will find:
Whale.Steam.Engine
You need to give Jay Leno an engine.
You need to sell your engines.
You need to convince WikiPedia's BOUNCERS
that lots of people are enjoying your engines.
tj Frazir
Jay leno cant be contacted.
tj Frazir
tj Frazir
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
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Thu, 22 Oct 11:14 AM (4 days 4 hours ago)
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Thu, 22 Oct 11:05 AM (4 days 5 hours ago)
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Thu, 22 Oct 12:40 AM (4 days 15 hours ago)
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Wed, 21 Oct 10:56 AM (5 days 5 hours ago)
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Wed, 21 Oct 1:24 AM (5 days 14 hours ago)
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Mon, 19 Oct 3:11 PM (1 week ago)
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Mon, 19 Oct 1:11 PM (1 week ago)
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Mon, 19 Oct 12:15 PM (1 week ago)
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Sun, 18 Oct 8:00 PM (1 week ago)
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Sun, 18 Oct 7:05 PM (1 week ago)
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tj Frazir
face is.
its contained so no ne can see it
tj Frazir
why ?
Te pic is not in google and im not paying untill it is.
250MPG 277HP - Google Images
Address:http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&gbv=1&q=250MPG+277HP
Your face is where the engine should be .
Why cant you get 1 fucking pic on google ?
No google pic no 20 million.
Im not paying and the pic contained as it is so no one will see it.
Whats the big deal ?
Why wount google show it ?
Its contained and managed by home land security . You CANT get itt in
google .
tj Frazir
where is the engine ?
why cant a pc programit get a pic on google ?
tj Frazir
whale steam engine - Google Images
Address:http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=whale+steam+engine&start=60&sa=N
forgt the dots between whale steam engine.
Ill pay when I get what Im paying for.
Im not even going to try to pay untill then.
ern it you got it.
leve it contained and ill leve you broke and not fork over 20 mil..or
200 mil .
BUT if you get it on google you get paid.
No one can seeit untill they can find it.
Aleph
What on Earth are you going on about?
--
Aleph
This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
this account are very likely to be ignored.
Aleph
where near enough thought and then wrote:
Seriously, this is bizarre even by your webtvretard standards.
Reading it a few times, I think I may have worked it out.
You, in a fit of madness, have offered to pay some of your imaginary
money to the unwashed, deadbeat dad that calls itself Jeff Relf.
Unsurprisingly, Relf has promised you something he cant deliver (google
page rank for some imaginary picture) and now you are threatening to
withold your imaginary money.
Is this about right?
Its mind boggling. It really is.
Aleph
where near enough thought and then wrote:
You have never seen a PC in your life, let alone a PC programmer.
You are a retard. If you werent stuck with the monstrosity that is
WebTV, you would realise the stupidity of your comments.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
HomeLand Security isn't blocking TJ's pictures.
I've told TJ several times that it MIGHT take 18 days
(from Oct. 14^th) before a Google-Images search finds his photos.
The photos MIGHT show-up Sunday, Nov. 1^st.
Google-Images ranks photos from JeffRelf.F-M.FM lower than WikiPedia's,
because WikiPedia's "bouncers" are very picky. WikiPedia is MODERATED !
Anyone can post anything to Sci.Phsics, it's unmoderated.
WikiPedia insists on quality sources to back up TJ's claims.
gdewilde
See this:
http://files.myopera.com/gabydewilde/files/google-groups-censorship-lulzz.jpg
link,
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/d06a556a6b4e0841?hl=en#
Nope, it's not there it isn't.
http://files.myopera.com/gabydewilde/files/google-groups-censorship-lulzz-2.jpg
http://files.myopera.com/gabydewilde/files/google-groups-censorship-lulzz-3.jpg
It won't seem to allow me to post this message either.
funny,
Aleph
<_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid> gave it no where near enough thought and
then wrote:
>
> HomeLand Security isn't blocking TJ's pictures.
Really? Next you will be telling me that the Pope is indeed a Roman
Catholic.
> I've told TJ several times that it MIGHT take 18 days
> (from Oct. 14^th) before a Google-Images search finds his photos.
It might take much longer.
> The photos MIGHT show-up Sunday, Nov. 1^st.
Or they might not. Really, who cares.
> Google-Images ranks photos from JeffRelf.F-M.FM lower than WikiPedia's,
> because WikiPedia's "bouncers" are very picky. WikiPedia is MODERATED !
I am SURE that is not the only reason.
> Anyone can post anything to Sci.Phsics, it's unmoderated.
Again, is this news or surprising? If it were moderated, you would never
get to post here.
> WikiPedia insists on quality sources to back up TJ's claims.
What does that tell you?
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
TJ, when your pics show up at Google-Images, I'll let you know.
It might be Nov. 1^st, I don't know.
I don't control which pics a Google-Images search will return.
Google can't search for dots. After your pics show up,
a Google-Images search for any of these should work:
Whale-Steam-Engine
Whale.Steam.Engine
WhaleSteamEngine
"Whale Steam Engine"
This search (spaces, sans quote marks) might also work:
Whale Steam Engine
Other searches might work as well, wait and see.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
TJ, Google-Images is not the only place your pics are viewed !
People are viewing them, including a guy (147.43.38.85) from:
Korea Atomic Energy Research Institute ( KAERI-NET, www.KAERI.RE.KR )
Aleph
<_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid> gave it no where near enough thought and
then wrote:
>
> TJ, when your pics show up at Google-Images, I'll let you know.
Is your email broken? Do you think USENET is a personal information
exchange for use between you and freakyfrazir?
> <snip boring>
>
> Whale-Steam-Engine
You know this actually gets results other than your somewhat unusual
visage?
> <snip boring>
Please, will the two of you learn what email is and try to exchange it.
tj Frazir
even jeffs face.
no engine
tj Frazir
For 20 million bucks a pc programer cant get a pic to show up on google
images !
What about that gishpuppy ¿
tj Frazir
google as whale steam engines the programer dont get 20 million .
How hard can getting a few pics in google images be when you have the
pics and can use any method you want ?
Or is it contained !
Are you unable to get the pic where your face is ?
tj Frazir
is that north or south koria ?
LOOK jeff ©¡Ø-
Get the pic in google then print you out a few and waltz down to the
edu for an engine check and down to the marnia .
The edu should understand 175 mpg .Ž
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
"147.43.38.85" is the IP address of a guy at
www.KAERI.RE.KR (Korea Atomic Energy Research Institute), SOUTH Korea.
North Korea barely has electricity, much less Internet access.
Even after a Google-Images search finds your pics
most people will see your pics via your posts.
I can't show your pics to the University of Washington
unless-and-until I get confirmation that your engines exist.
Your word isn't enough, I need tangible proof.
Anyone can say anything here, Sci.Physics isn't moderated.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
18 days passed before my mug-shot showed up
via a Google-Images search.
I don't know how long it'll be (from Oct. 14^th)
before your (TJ's) pics show up that way... I don't control it.
I expect them to show up any day now, but who knows ?
At any rate, most people will find your pics via your posts,
not via a Google-Images search.
More to the point,
you have to convince us that people are enjoying your engines,
a simple drawing isn't enough.
tj Frazir
175 MPG is the standard and your a block from the edu and have engines.
Seattle dont have engines and you do !
And 175 MPG per ton is the standard.
Are you that stupid ?
You dont understand the engines ¿
A 7th grader would understand the engines.
I bet a 7th grader can get a pic on google
tj Frazir
2. you can show the slide vane rotor.
You can show the hydra-electric above the whale 3.
You can show this engine if you understand it or not.
HK gave it to china and koria so who knows more about this engine
,,koria or seattle ?
You know fucking well it runs.
You cant be 100 % fucking retarted.
Your a programer but you cant get a pic on google.
tj Frazir
They would be smarter morons.
The people that see the pic that matter do understand the pics.
south koria understands the pics you bet your ass china HK looked too
and japan.
steattle would pay you big time a week after they figer out its all
true. They wount put that engine down. They pay even more to get you
to get my best engine.
tj Frazir
my 300,000 ton copper is in 2 loads of 150,000 tons . For the 10th
year.
I pay zambia 50 % .
I made $3000 per ton myself for 10 years.
Its about 1 billion bucks per 150,000 ton load.
I keep money in land banks and buy forest .
I buy ships and castels islands and forest.
Evrything i buy makes money.
extra 500,000 ton cane yea off my 1 million acres amazon brazil i paid
20 million for.
or mexico 45000 acres or canada 45000 acres got both for 2 mil.
why on webtv
1 , i own it.
2 , you cant find my pc
Aleph
where near enough thought and then wrote:
So the mighty google is incapable of indexing your imagination.
Who would have thought that.....
tj Frazir
Thats each cylinder firing 100 times per second.
4 inch pistons 4 inch strokes.
400 strokes 4 inch each per second.
...........................................................
1600 inches per second of stroke.
......................... doble 1930 boiler for cars is 1300 cubic inch
per second of 650 psi steam.
.....................................................................
1600 inches of power stroke per second.
VRS the whale steam power water rocket.
4 cylinders 500 cubic inch each.
One jet nosel 1 and 2/10th inch .
15 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per stroke.
1 stroke per second.
..............................................................
40 inch stroke per second from 4 inch steam.
....................................................................
The same identical thrust.
at 100 to 1 .
AT 100 TO fucking 1.
1/100th the gas your jet ski burns.
NO fucking parts to ever replace.
A tank of fuel last a month wide open.
Your jet ski cant hold 6000rpm day in and day out . This water rocket
4 cyclnder wount ever bust.
Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg
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Aleph
where near enough thought and then wrote:
> It means if a pc programer cant take the pics and get them to show up in
> google as whale steam engines the programer dont get 20 million .
Look at it this way: You are so retarded you have actually asked Jeff
Relf to do some SEO on your behalf.
That has to be one of the funniest things I have read all day.
Aleph
where near enough thought and then wrote:
I know you have many problems to deal with (what, with being stupid and
all), but what are you talking about here.
This is the message you have replied to:
>> You have never seen a PC in your life, let alone a PC programmer.
>>
>> You are a retard. If you werent stuck with the monstrosity that is
>> WebTV, you would realise the stupidity of your comments.
So what on earth are you talking about?
Aleph
nowhere near enough thought and then wrote:
> You have engines and dont know !
> 175 MPG is the standard and your a block from the edu and have engines.
>
> Seattle dont have engines and you do !
> And 175 MPG per ton is the standard.
>
> Are you that stupid ?
> You dont understand the engines �
> A 7th grader would understand the engines.
> I bet a 7th grader can get a pic on google
Why did you ask Relf then? Cant you afford to pay a seventh grader? are
you scared they will bully you some more?
> http://community.webtv.net/GravityPhysics/WhaleSteamEngineA
Aleph
claiming:
> eliph elif.
> my 300,000 ton copper is in 2 loads of 150,000 tons . For the 10th
> year.
> I pay zambia 50 % .
> I made $3000 per ton myself for 10 years.
Liar.
> Its about 1 billion bucks per 150,000 ton load.
> I keep money in land banks and buy forest .
Liar.
> I buy ships and castels islands and forest.
Liar.
> Evrything i buy makes money.
Liar.
> extra 500,000 ton cane yea off my 1 million acres amazon brazil i paid
> 20 million for.
Liar.
> or mexico 45000 acres or canada 45000 acres got both for 2 mil.
Liar.
> why on webtv
> 1 , i own it.
Or at least your parents / carer own it.
> 2 , you cant find my pc
Because you havent got one. You cant find my MacBook either.
You dont have a PC. If you were a bazillionaire like you claim, you
could simply buy TWO pcs and use one of them. You are clueless about
technology.
In fact, you are just clueless.
hanson
... ahahahaha.. AHAHAHAHAHAHA... AHAHAHA..
TJ, why would anyone wanna find your pc? PC's are
as cheap as shit... ahahahaha... Then and more important
you forgot to tell them that webtv, which you own, stands
for w.e.b.t.v === Whale Engine Bullshit, Tj's Version ===
>
Thanks for the laughs, Dr. Webtv... ahaahahahahanson
tj Frazir
The fire wall wount let you look at shit and if you do your pc will be
dirt next week.
I dont drive my cadilac ( 1930 ) in the junkyard I drive an old rust
turck in the junkyard net.
You dont care who finds your pc if your worthless ,,, and your not
hunting trade leads around the world with your pc .
You send the best pages to the pc from webtv because the price and
search speed with the web and the security is worth it.
besides i own it
tj Frazir
1 million bucks says you cant get ( whale steam engine ) and the pic
under it in google.
1 million bucks if you can your out nothing but time if you cant.
The question is why cant you ?
They are going to pass a law and stop its passing around ,, they
classified it.
Get the rotor or the entire pic on google !
You cant do it .
This simple fucking pic of an engine wount show up unless you can snek
it on some how.
You can see the pic ,, thats a new engine and it works.
tj Frazir
I know who you are dickhead .
Your far toooooo stupi to coment on
Whale.Steam.Engine.1.jpg
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even the steam power water rocket on the right.
You cant do the math and dont have clue because your fucking tooooo
STUPID to talk about sci stuf.
Your loon boon bullshit dont cut it when you can see the engine.
Thats one slick ass engine .
Its got exhaust valve at top and a water in flap and a steam valve on a
programable relay and the stove nob .
Thats all the moving parts.
This simple ass engine you dont even understand becaus your a fucktard
,,,
dont convert thrust to rotation and is matched to the nosel to be peak
duration in stroke.
A better ship engine cant be built.
Its the steam engine without the pistons and crank and dont waist energy
converting it 5 times because it has no gear.
Whale.Steam.Engine.1.jpg
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tj Frazir
So no matter who has the pics cant get them in google images.
reason its classified.
" they dont want it out " president bush
tj Frazir
the oil bosses dont want it getting out.
I bet hanson a million too..
whale steam engine on google images .
You cant do it either
tj Frazir
You no longer are able to not understand the engine because the pic
makes it simple.
Because you can see the pic and you cant coment on any detail of the
whale engines you must be a dumbass.
Thats a new engine dumbass ,,
175 MPG per ton standard engine not the 25 mpg per ton engine you have.
ALL the fucking parts your car dont nead ,,
the electric and gas bill you dont nead.
GOT THAT Koria ?
Koria dint download from jeffs pc to get a coppy they got from china
,,they wanted to see more ,,any more pics.
They want all they can get about it.
Thats because China sent it to them.
I sent it to HK where it was sent to china gov that sent it to koria gov
and they have thier best people on it.
The USA gov blocks it ,,but I leaked it to the world and the world will
use market force and produce it .
The USN uses it .
You watched me ram it down thier necks.
They hate getting beet real bad me 5000 ton ship at 90 MPH with picless
laser painter wount let te rockets find me.
They got thier asses handed to them.
They had no idia I could stop you from taking a pic of the ship with ANY
camra includung the ir cam on a rocket.
"" whats the matter with this god damb navy they cant see that fucking
ship over there..?
We can see it admeral but the camra cant.
::
the auto makers are on the burner now.
NEW ENGINE
tj Frazir
not a fucking thing !
Thats the best engine you have ever seen.
Its the only steam power 4 cyclinder water rocket you ever saw.
so you dont know what the fuck your talking about.
Aleph
<Gravity...@webtv.net> wrote:
> the gov whitehouse.com called google up and said dont let that pic in.
Your ignorance is legend.
> So no matter who has the pics cant get them in google images.
> reason its classified.
Bullshit.
> " they dont want it out " president bush
You are full of shit.
Aleph
<Gravity...@webtv.net> wrote:
> the bullshit stops
With you, it never stops.
Aleph
<Gravity...@webtv.net> wrote:
> aleph cant coment in any way about the engines.
No, like I said to the tooth fairy this morning, we should try to avoid
talking about imaginary things.
<crap removed>
Aleph
<Gravity...@webtv.net> wrote:
> aleph ,,if you think your smart.
Oh, compared to you, I certainly am.
> 1 million bucks says you cant get ( whale steam engine ) and the pic
> under it in google.
If you had US$100, I would take you up on the offer. Sadly you cant
afford 1 hour of my time.
If you think you can, please note I demand payment in advance. I will
give you a full refund if I fail.
> 1 million bucks if you can your out nothing but time if you cant.
My time is more valuable than you think.
> The question is why cant you ?
Who said I cant.
> They are going to pass a law and stop its passing around ,, they
> classified it.
Nonsense. This shows how little you understand the internet.
> Get the rotor or the entire pic on google !
Pay me and I will.
Aleph
<Gravity...@webtv.net> wrote:
> You cant buy enouph firewalls to search google trade leads with a pc.
Nonsense. You have no idea what you are talking about.
> The fire wall wount let you look at shit and if you do your pc will be
> dirt next week.
Again, nonsense. You dont know how firewalls work, you dont know how to
configure them.
Crucially, you dont realise that a $300 PC should be disposable for
someone like you. You think WebTV keeps you "secret" but it doesnt -
that is the result of how WebTV act as an ISP. Other ISPs do similar
things.
Your lack of understanding is legendary.
> I dont drive my cadilac ( 1930 ) in the junkyard I drive an old rust
> turck in the junkyard net.
You dont drive.
> You dont care who finds your pc if your worthless ,,, and your not
> hunting trade leads around the world with your pc .
Your fantasy life is boring.
> You send the best pages to the pc from webtv because the price and
> search speed with the web and the security is worth it.
Why do you own a PC?
> besides i own it
No, your parents do.
tj Frazir
toss some sticks punk.
That still a new engine and works.
Your just too stupid to know it.
tj Frazir
search is far faster with my webtv then a brand new dell. I can search
away and not hurt it.
The pc wount go 1/2 the places and does it slower .
a pc just slows google down.
webtv is fucking fast google.
i dont care if my pc gets fucked i have another and can buy them all
day..
but why bother ?
800 mllion is my share of philips.
its my webtv i own it.
tj Frazir
it was 1980 .
1978 to 80
it was 1 million bucks.
No million no aple no msn.
One young trader with his first few million.
kicking the docks on dockstreet.
tj Frazir
i built the planets best hydraelectric with a slide vane rotor.
its 1000 times better then water turbines.
tj Frazir
The steam powe water rocker with 15 cubic inch steam at 650 psi at the
top of 700 cubic inch water.
2 inch jet .
1000 pound thrust on about 20 cubic inch second of steam .
Whale.Steam.Engine.1.jpg
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ALL the other ship engines convert thrust into rotation then back to
thrust with a screw.
evry time it converts evergy it waisted energy that cant do work.
99 % of the energy put into the water rocket will do work.
The laws of conservation insist no other ship engine is as good.
The laws of conservation allso proves that a truck 25 tons at 7 mpg is
175 mpg per ton and that is what the car should get.
175 MPG is not cheating conservation any.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
As you (Hanson) noted, Desk·top PCs are dirt·cheap and
they can run IE·8 (20·09) and/or FireFox 3.5.4 (20·09).
MSN·TV's screen is 560 pixels wide... I have 1,280 pixels.
I nabbed my monitor from the alley ( i.e. the garbage ),
where there's always plenty to choose from.
Bert's MSN·TV box uses IE·4 (19·98), TJ's box uses IE·2 (19·95);
so TJ's box is almost 15 years out of date !
MicroSoft's share·holders own MSN ( Micro·Soft Network ) TV
( formerly known as Web TV )... TJ doesn't own MicroSoft.
G=EMC^2 Glazier
a better webtv than tj' who is a multi-millionaire My webtv and I
have grown old together. Still Embarq my house phone carrier,and I might
part company,and no more internet for me. They control my dish as well.
So its back to the 30s for me. Radio had Jack Benny,RudyValley.Jack
Armstrong(the all American boy) Big feature was Roosevelt Fire Side Chat
How I loved Radio It made you visualize what you heard. Like the
"Shadow Knows" or Hildergaurd playing the piano and singing to you from
times quare NYC.(I had a sex crush on her) at mid night. When you made
pop corn on a huge black caste iron stove(came out lousy) but was nice.
Chestnuts on top of the stove were great Goes with the song The
great depression was the worse of times The great depression for me was
the best of time. bert
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
80 years on, radio still rules.
MicroSoft's browser is called IE (Internet Explorer).
Double-A and I have IE version 8 ( 20'09 ),
you ( Bert ) have version 4 ( 19'98 ),
TJ has version 2 ( 19'95 ).
You can't see certain web-pages because your browser is so old, and
your screen is so small ( 560 pixels wide Vs. my 1,280 pixels ).
----------------
Dump Embarq and NEGOTIATE a better deal with their competition.
Tell them you REQUIRE a special deal, a cheaper price.
When renewing, tell them you'll "walk" if you don't the same deal.
Once you get high-speed broad-band ( cable ? ),
you can get a device ( 20 bucks per year ) to plug in a phone.
The device plugs into you modem/router, not our PC.
You can buy a cheap "netbook";
netbooks are larger than a cell-phone but smaller than a notebook.
tj Frazir
my pc dont have a view like i get.
the dell has a flat screen too but its small neext to my bulkhead
monitor tv is 6 feet wide. 2007 hdtv.
tj Frazir
over a billion worth.
and aple 500 mil.
this webtv is te first one on line in 1988.
think who invents allllloooot of shit.
87 inventions you know of .
not many people on the planet invent anything but evryone re-invents it
after the first one gets invented.
Oh i build .. i still have a shop aboard and its loaded .
Just a month ago the h60 flew a 1925 cadilac from raspberry island to
kodiak to load now its in the boats machine shop.
cut down 600 trees after the dozer wet past with te 1 3/4 inch wire
rope spool 2 miles long.
Each one is 20 ton and over.
12000 ton on a wire rope conected to a 1200 ton ex cadaian ice breaker
sent to japan .
$ 6 million profit just to work em up there.
they make 50 grand for 4 days work
tj Frazir
( 20 bucks ) ha ha ha heee ..lol.
I told them 200 mil and stocks .
and i got it.
My laptop is a aple but i dont use it and my grandkid sent the pic for
me in 5 min with it because he was at the lake house.
it dont have phone lines but has te laptop .
we could have line put in but fuck it..
why ,,we like no phone at the lake ..
castel should have a phone but we dont go there much anyway.
I like the dock house more anyway
but I dont go there any more.
I got a bigger castel in france to hang out in.
better view too.
Wii is cool !
Its has the pool games and the bunnies that cant.
You remeber the pool game ?
........................... the wii pool game .
How old is that ?
When dreamworks got mine done and I was tellin you how insane the game
of pool is on the table and the pool stick is a acelorameter and a ir
laser ..you al thought I was nutz.
But now you can pick up wii and play a game of accelorameter pool and
showthe bunnies who cant.
............. I got you hear in great datail because all the parts i
posted on the electric pool table
a few years ago ,,,you can use now.
you think i cheated ?
You think it was re-invented or invented after i invented it and you
all said thats imposible.
tj Frazir
Now that you have wii how insane is that ?
when I was playing E pool with an E pool table
and a motion detector accelorameter stick and ir laser ,, you all said
my dreamworks pool table was imposble .
3 years later you get a wii and play pool with it.
whats up with that ?
Navy launches a 50 MPH water rocket jet ship.
50 mph water jet 5000 ton ships are insane you all told me that nd as
you all know they want 50 more water jet ships that go 50 mph
and you all know how imposoble that is because you know all about it
because I talked about it so much so long.
another case of cheating by knowing the furture ???????????
or does some billionaire sit at sea and yap on the net ???
all billionaires and all movie stars yap on the net an no one knows who
they are and no net is set aside for the rich people.
we wipe out own asses too if you wanted to know
tj Frazir
It changes to any color.
1000s of colors to pic from.
click its red click its bleu
tj Frazir
works .
Built a 5 cyclnder staem power water rocket and away we went.
couldnt run the boiler low enouph to go 10 kt.
it left at 30 kts and thats as low as it would go .
1981 stuck a 4 cyclinder water rocket 22 inch id 20 foot tall . in a
nice ship and fueled it up once a year. Got that ship cheep cuz the
crank was bent.
the 4 cyclinder water rocket just a ball vlve on top and water filled
at the top .
they stood at 25 deg off the deck 2o long 1o tall threw the hull with
10 inch nosels.
G=EMC^2 Glazier
controls having a house phone. Can I do away with both? I ask this
because I have as you know a negative cash flow,and have burned
of(stiffed) Bright House 5 years ago. My goal is to move into my van
with a laptop,and get to Huntington Beach,and let you all know how
things are with me. I have only virtual friends left(internet friends)
left Bert.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Is there a cable TV ( not phone ) company near you ( Bert ) ?
You can post to Sci.Physics via an iPhone ( or something like it ).
You need something that can connect to Google Groups.
If you have free WiFi ( like Double-A ) the iPhone can use that.
Aleph
<Gravity...@webtv.net> wrote:
> did i mention i change the color of my ship with a flick.
> It changes to any color.
> 1000s of colors to pic from.
> click its red click its bleu
>
And click, it smells of bullshit.
Aleph
<Gravity...@webtv.net> wrote:
> so my pool table dreamworks is still insane ?
Yes. Everything you say is insane (or just a lie)
Aleph
<Gravity...@webtv.net> wrote:
> I see the pic in hdtv 50 inch wide.
You have a big imagination.
> my pc dont have a view like i get.
You are an idiot. You can plug your PC into your TV if you wanted.
> the dell has a flat screen too but its small neext to my bulkhead
It is only limited by your imagination.
> monitor tv is 6 feet wide. 2007 hdtv.
6 feet or 50 inches? Make your minds up.
Aleph
<2647-4AF...@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net>, tj Frazir sat down and
wrote:
> My laptop is a aple
This is probably as close to the truth as you get. But not in the way you
think.
> <snip lies>
Boring, please try harder to entertain.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
I don't have a TV, but there's always one
out in the alley, out by the garbage cans.
Within minutes, I could be watching this computer screen
( Visual Studio, my text editor ) on a 27 inch TV
( I already have the cables and my video card has the jacks ).
From what I've read, MSN TV ( Web TV ) lacks pixels
...it's only 560 pixels wide... not enough for most sites.
TJ's 19'95-era browser ( IE-2 ) is even more problematic.
Bert ( another MSN-TV user ) has IE-4 ( 19'98 ).
Aleph
<_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Nov4.3.44pm.at>, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid sat
down and wrote:
>
> I don't have a TV, but there's always one
> out in the alley, out by the garbage cans.
Was this meant to be a reply to my post? Do you think I dont know what your
"lifestyle" is like, or more importantly care?
> Within minutes, I could be watching this computer screen
> ( Visual Studio, my text editor ) on a 27 inch TV
> ( I already have the cables and my video card has the jacks ).
Good for you.
> From what I've read, MSN TV ( Web TV ) lacks pixels
> ...it's only 560 pixels wide... not enough for most sites.
Monumental understatement. WebTV lacks much, much more.
> TJ's 19'95-era browser ( IE-2 ) is even more problematic.
Dont you find it strange that a gazillionaire high tech whizz kid is using
this? Doesn't ring even the slightest alarm bells for you?
> Bert ( another MSN-TV user ) has IE-4 ( 19'98 ).
Yeah, so much better.
tj Frazir
dont you think its strange that the 250 MPG steam power water rocket
was posted via webtv ?
what will you say when the pics are known world wide ?
They will see the same pics you see .
tj Frazir
27 inch tv sucks.
My HDTV flat is better then a pc flat screen.
tj Frazir
Your pc cant go to all the trade lead sites .
Your pc will sa dont do it ,,or kick off.
This webtv is amune and quick.
You cant find my pc.
No link from my web is to my pc.
whale 7 is on my pc.
safe as fuck because you cant find it.
why get emails on my pc when this web mail gets so many ?
Aleph
wrote:
> Your bells better be looking at the engines aba.
What on Earth does that mean?
You appear to have replied to my post while talking to someone else. Your
unhinged mind is betraying you.
> dont you think its strange that the 250 MPG steam power water rocket
> was posted via webtv ?
Not in the way you think. I find it strange that anyone uses WebTV without
it being the early 1990s. I dont find posting things to the internet
strange.
I dont find your, ahem, _250 MPG_ thing strange. Funny, yes. Comical, yes.
But strange, no.
> what will you say when the pics are known world wide ?
They are worldwide. So I think I will say the same thing.
> They will see the same pics you see .
Who will? If _they_ do, they will laugh at you.
Aleph
wrote:
> its as good as the tv .
> 27 inch tv sucks.
It better than a 15" TV. Or, interestingly, trying to watch something render
560 pixels on a huge display.
Remember the bigger the display the more pixels you need.
How many does your WebTV crap box show on a screen?
> My HDTV flat is better then a pc flat screen.
In fantasyland, maybe.
Aleph
wrote:
> ok give the price of copper in south koria china and japan ...aba.
> Your pc cant go to all the trade lead sites .
There are no sites you can get to on WebTV that a PC cant get to.
> Your pc will sa dont do it ,,or kick off.
> This webtv is amune and quick.
And crap. You obviously dont have a PC otherwise you would know what you say
is incorrect, and has been since about 1995.
> You cant find my pc.
Because it doesnt exist.
You cant find Santa either.
> No link from my web is to my pc.
Why have one? What do you use your PC for? If you are so rich, why dont you
have two PCs?
> whale 7 is on my pc.
If, by that, you mean in your imagination, then I agree.
> safe as fuck because you cant find it.
> why get emails on my pc when this web mail gets so many ?
Where to begin....
If you *were* a bazillionaire, then you would realize that you can use a PC
and easily make it more secure than your "webtv" crap, while at the same
time it would allow you to do a trillion times more.
But you arent and you have no choice in how you connect. I am sure your
fantasy life helps you get through the day.