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ADM formalism: evolution of conjugate momentum

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Gregor Scholten

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Apr 17, 2013, 4:25:51 PM4/17/13
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Hi alltogether,

There are numerous articles about ADM formalism, e.g. this one:

http://www.math.toronto.edu/mccann/assignments/426/Tong.pdf

where they indicate expressions for the Hamiltonian (equation 20 in
upper article) and the time-derivative of the momentum \p^ij conjugated
to three-metric h_ij (equation 25). However, I didn't find any article
where the derivation of \dot \p^ij from the Hamiltonian is shown. In
every article I found, they only indicate the final result for the
time-evolution of p^ij (like in equation 25 in upper article), but not
the calculation that yields this result. Especially the terms with
second derivatives of the lapse function \alpha, like D^a D^b \alpha,
seem very strange to me. There are no terms in Hamiltonian where I could
imagine that those terms originate from them. The terms with
three-Ricci-tensor obviously originate from the three-Ricci-scalar, the
terms with p^ab from the p^ab terms in Hamiltonian, but I have no idea,
where the D^a D^b alpha occurs from.

Does anybody know about this?

Thanks in advance.

Jonathan Thornburg [remove -animal to reply]

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Apr 20, 2013, 7:12:55 AM4/20/13
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I don't have a direct answer to your question handy, but here are
some references which might be useful:

You probably know that the name "ADM formalism" derives from the 1962
paper by Arnowitt, Deser, and Misner,

@incollection
{
ADM-1962,
author = "R. Arnowitt and S. Deser and Charles W. Misner",
title = "The Dynamics of General Relativity",
pages = "227--265",
editor = "L. Witten",
booktitle = "Gravitation: An Introduction to Current Research",
publisher = "Wiley",
address = "New York",
year = 1962,
}

This was republished as arXiv:gr-qc/0405109. The equations of motion
are their equations (3.15).

York has published a number of fairly-readable accounts of this material,
and many other researchers follow York's formalism. His 1979 paper
is the "classic" one, and was the key reference for my generation of
numerical relativists:

@incollection
{
York-1979-in-Yellow,
X-author = "James W. York, Jr.",
author = "York, Jr., James W.",
title = "Kinematics and Dynamics of General Relativity",
pages = "83--126",
editor = "Larry L. Smarr",
booktitle = "Sources of Gravitational Radiation",
publisher = "Cambridge University Press",
address = "Cambridge, UK",
year = 1979,
isbn = "0-521-22778-X",
snote = "Proceedings of the Battelle Seattle Workshop,
24 July -- 4 August, 1978",
}

There are also other papers by York with slightly different presentations
of essentially the same material:

@incollection
{
York-1983-in-Red,
X-author = "James W. York, Jr.",
author = "York, Jr., James W.",
title = "The Initial Value Problem and Dynamics",
pages = "175--201",
editor = "Nathalie Deruelle and Tsvi Piran",
booktitle = "Gravitational Radiation",
publisher = "North-Holland",
address = "Amsterdam",
year = 1983,
isbn = "0-444-86560-8",
snote = "Les Houches proceedings, 2--21 June 1982"
}

@incollection
{
York-1985-in-Centrella-LeBlank-Bowers,
X-author = "James W. York, Jr.",
author = "York, Jr., James W.",
title = "Spacetime Engineering",
pages = "176--189",
editor = "Joan M. Centrella and James M. LeBlanc
and Richard L. Bowers",
booktitle = "Numerical Astrophysics",
publisher = "Jones and Bartlett",
address = "Boston",
year = 1985,
isbn = "0-86720-048-0",
snote = "60th birthday festschrift for {J}ames {R}. {W}ilson",
}

@incollection
{
York-Piran-1982-in-Schild-lectures,
X-author = "James W. York, Jr. and Tsvi Piran",
author = "York, Jr., James W. and Tsvi Piran",
title = "The Initial Value Problem and Beyond",
pages = "147--176",
editor = "Richard A. Matzner and Lawrence C. Shepley",
booktitle = "Spacetime and Geometry: The {A}lfred {S}child Lectures",
publisher = "University of Texas Press",
address = "Austin (Texas)",
year = 1982,
isbn = "0-292-77567-9",
}

Finally, Misner, Thorne, & Wheeler present this material in section 21.7,
with the equations of motion appearing as their equation (21.115).

ciao,

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Jonathan Thornburg [remove -animal to reply]

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Apr 23, 2013, 5:15:28 PM4/23/13
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In article <kkkcg8$492$1...@news.albasani.net>,
Gregor Scholten <g.sch...@gmx.de> wrote:
> There are numerous articles about ADM formalism, e.g. this one:
>
> http://www.math.toronto.edu/mccann/assignments/426/Tong.pdf
>
> where they indicate expressions for the Hamiltonian (equation 20 in
> upper article) and the time-derivative of the momentum \p^ij conjugated
> to three-metric h_ij (equation 25). However, I didn't find any article
> where the derivation of \dot \p^ij from the Hamiltonian is shown. In
> every article I found, they only indicate the final result for the
> time-evolution of p^ij (like in equation 25 in upper article), but not
> the calculation that yields this result. Especially the terms with
> second derivatives of the lapse function \alpha, like D^a D^b \alpha,
> seem very strange to me. There are no terms in Hamiltonian where I could
> imagine that those terms originate from them. The terms with
> three-Ricci-tensor obviously originate from the three-Ricci-scalar, the
> terms with p^ab from the p^ab terms in Hamiltonian, but I have no idea,
> where the D^a D^b alpha occurs from.

In article <alpine.BSO.2.00.1...@cobalt.astro.indiana.edu>,
I replied with some general references.

I've just discovered another reference which works through the derivation
in detail, and thus should be more suitable for answering your question:

This reference is Matt Choptuik's notes "The 3+1 Einstein Equations"
from a course he taught in 1998. These notes are (still) online at

http://laplace.physics.ubc.ca/People/matt/Teaching/98Spring/Phy387N/Doc/3+1.ps

Gregor Scholten

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Apr 26, 2013, 5:44:01 PM4/26/13
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Jonathan Thornburg [remove -animal to reply] wrote:

> I've just discovered another reference which works through the derivation
> in detail, and thus should be more suitable for answering your question:
>
> This reference is Matt Choptuik's notes "The 3+1 Einstein Equations"
> from a course he taught in 1998. These notes are (still) online at
>
> http://laplace.physics.ubc.ca/People/matt/Teaching/98Spring/Phy387N/Doc/3+1.ps

Thanks. However, this is not what I'm looking for. They derive the
equation of motion from the four-dimensional Einstein field equation,
but not from Lagrangian oder Hamiltonien density.


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