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carl eto

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Sep 24, 2021, 6:20:13 PM9/24/21
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The velocity of light is used to justifies Maxwell's electromagnetic wave theory of light. 

"This velocity is so nearly that of light, that it seems we have strong reason to conclude that light itself (including radiant heat, and other radiations if any) is an electromagnetic disturbance in the form of waves propagated through the electromagnetic field according to electromagnetic laws." (Maxwell, Intro., § 466).


 "Maxwell jumped to a conclusion. He concluded that light is one form of electromagnetic wave. He had no real evidence for this, but he felt that the coincidence of that tremendous speed was not a coincidence at all." (Bova, p. 159).

 "By the electromagnetic experiments of MM. Weber and Kohlrausch[1]," (Maxwell, Part VI).

"the constant c represents that relative velocity, which the electrical masses e...  c = 439450 x 106 " (Weber, p. 294). "The velocity of light in air, by M. Fizeau's [2]  experiments, is V = 314,858,000; according to the more accurate experiments of M. Foucaultt[3] V = 298,000,000." (Maxwell, VI).


The velocity of the entity does not justify the structure. In addition, the velocity of light cannot be measured. Roemer is accredited as the first to measure the velocity of light using the eclipse of Io but the eclipse of Io can only be viewed from Jupiter. Bradley's stellar aberration is used to calculate the velocity of light but Bradley's measurements are within the measurement uncertainty using a pendulum clock that is used to determine the displacement of Bradley's star during a solar eclipse. Fizeau (1849) measures the velocity of light using a rotating cogwheel but to measure the velocity of light requires the time a single light pulse propagates a specific distance yet Fizeau's cogwheel is producing a series of light pulses. Foucault (1850) replaced Fizeau's cogwheel with rotating mirrors which also forms a series of light pulses. Weber-Kohlrausch (1856) calculate the velocity of light using the units of a discharging capacitor but the electrons of a discharging capacitor are propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s. Michelson (1926) attempts to calculate the velocity of light using an interferometer and wave equation (λf = c) but Michelson's interference fringes are formed by an ether and the wave equation is also based on light waves formed by the motion of an ether that does not physically exist. An oscilloscope is used to determine the velocity of light but the wave pattern formed by the oscilloscope is formed by electrons that are propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s yet light propagates at the velocity of 108 m/s. Furthermore, GPS (Global Positioning System) is used to justify the measurement of the velocity of light but the GPS is produced by the intensity differences of the satellites' radio signals not by the velocity of the radio signals since the electrons of the GPS system cannot measure the time difference of radio waves propagating at the velocity of light. The velocity of light is unknown.

Michael Moroney

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Sep 24, 2021, 6:42:53 PM9/24/21
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On 9/24/2021 6:20 PM, carl eto wrote:
> In addition, the velocity of light

SPEED of light.

> cannot be measured.

I measured the speed of light in freshman physics lab.

> Roemer is accredited as the first to measure the velocity of light using the eclipse of Io but the eclipse of Io can only be viewed from Jupiter.

Nope, the eclipse is easily seen with a telescope.

carl eto

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Sep 24, 2021, 6:49:18 PM9/24/21
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What method did you use to measure the velocity of light when you were a fatman in college physics?

Did you see the eclipse of Io with your eyes or your butt?


carl eto

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Sep 24, 2021, 7:08:38 PM9/24/21
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In freshman physics lab, you probably used an interference effect to determine the velocity of light and from the interference effect obtain a wavelength that is used in the wave equation to determine the velocity of light but the only problem is the wave equation is based on an ether, composed of matter that does not exist.

The only way to see the eclipse of Io is using your asshole since if you alignment the planets and the sun, the only way to see the eclipse of Io is through your butt hole then up your ass.

carl eto

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Sep 24, 2021, 7:12:53 PM9/24/21
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If you use Vaseline it will not hurt so much but smash avocados work even better but it would ruin your Sunday best and it may disfunction your telescope. Time for some astronomic Viagra.

carl eto

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The collective incompetency and plain stupidity of physicists and astronomers are the cause of global warming since NASA Apollo 11 is big oil.

carl eto

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carl eto

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Sep 24, 2021, 8:03:01 PM9/24/21
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The velocity of light is used to justifies Maxwell's electromagnetic wave theory of light.

"This velocity is so nearly that of light, that it seems we have strong reason to conclude that light itself (including radiant heat, and other radiations if any) is an electromagnetic disturbance in the form of waves propagated through the electromagnetic field according to electromagnetic laws." (Maxwell, Intro., § 466).


"Maxwell jumped to a conclusion. He concluded that light is one form of electromagnetic wave. He had no real evidence for this, but he felt that the coincidence of that tremendous speed was not a coincidence at all." (Bova, p. 159).

"By the electromagnetic experiments of MM. Weber and Kohlrausch[1]," (Maxwell, Part VI).

"the constant c represents that relative velocity, which the electrical masses e... c = 439450 x 106 " (Weber, p. 294). "The velocity of light in air, by M. Fizeau's [2] experiments, is V = 314,858,000; according to the more accurate experiments of M. Foucaultt[3] V = 298,000,000." (Maxwell, VI).


The velocity of the entity does not justify the structure. In addition, the velocity of light cannot be measured. Roemer is accredited as the first to measure the velocity of light using the eclipse of Io but the eclipse of Io can only be viewed from Jupiter. Bradley's stellar aberration is used to calculate the velocity of light but Bradley's measurements are within the measurement uncertainty using a pendulum clock that is used to determine the displacement of Bradley's star during a solar eclipse. Fizeau (1849) measures the velocity of light using a rotating cogwheel but to measure the velocity of light requires the time a single light pulse propagates a specific distance yet Fizeau's cogwheel is producing a series of light pulses. Foucault (1850) replaced Fizeau's cogwheel with rotating mirrors which also forms a series of light pulses. Weber-Kohlrausch (1856) calculate the velocity of light using the units of a discharging capacitor but the electrons of a discharging capacitor are propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s. Michelson (1926) attempts to calculate the velocity of light using an interferometer and wave equation (λf = c) but Michelson's interference fringes are formed by an ether and the wave equation is also based on light waves formed by the motion of an ether that does not physically exist. An oscilloscope is used to determine the velocity of light but the wave pattern formed by the oscilloscope is formed by electrons that are propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s yet light propagates at the velocity of 108 m/s. Furthermore, GPS (Global Positioning System) is used to justify the measurement of the velocity of light but the GPS is produced by the intensity differences of the satellites' radio signals not by the velocity of the radio signals since the electrons of the GPS system cannot measure the time difference of radio waves propagating at the velocity of light. The velocity of light is unknown.

Odd Bodkin

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Sep 24, 2021, 8:11:31 PM9/24/21
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carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In freshman physics lab, you probably used an interference effect to
> determine the velocity of light

Not me. When I did it, it was straight time of flight.


> and from the interference effect obtain a wavelength that is used in the
> wave equation to determine the velocity of light but the only problem is
> the wave equation is based on an ether, composed of matter that does not exist.
>
> The only way to see the eclipse of Io is using your asshole since if you
> alignment the planets and the sun, the only way to see the eclipse of Io
> is through your butt hole then up your ass.
>



--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Michael Moroney

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Sep 24, 2021, 9:04:31 PM9/24/21
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I only measured the speed of light.

Pulsed laser, long hallway, mirror, light sensor and oscilloscope. And a
way to measure distance.

Dual trace scope showed the outgoing pulse and the received reflection,
the display showed the time between the two pulses.
>
> Did you see the eclipse of Io with your eyes or your butt?

You see them with a telescope, idiot. Like this:
http://www.starrywonders.com/jupiter2labels.jpg

Here's a rare triple eclipse image.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3VlxTv7J6zg/maxresdefault.jpg

Since you appear to be a rather boring kꙩꙩk, I won't bother responding
any further. I'm here to be entertained by kꙩꙩks.

Dono.

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Sep 24, 2021, 9:35:10 PM9/24/21
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You are dealing with the nymshifter

Michael Moroney

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Sep 24, 2021, 11:01:10 PM9/24/21
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No, this isn't the nymshifter, unless it simultaneously changed how it
posts. This is a new kook, a Giggle Grouper. I can easily tell the
nymshifter posts.

mitchr...@gmail.com

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Sep 25, 2021, 2:25:16 PM9/25/21
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If it only it is measured in a collective we would only have an average speed.
How can you slow light where it absorbs?

carl eto

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Sep 25, 2021, 6:02:15 PM9/25/21
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If the electrons of an oscilloscope are propagating at 10^6 m/s then the maximum velocity that can be measured is 10^m/s.



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carl eto

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Sep 25, 2021, 6:12:36 PM9/25/21
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2,745 deaths today----usually this is the counters day off.

carl eto

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Sep 25, 2021, 6:13:12 PM9/25/21
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On Oct 14 we will max out

tina confirmo

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Sep 26, 2021, 1:19:13 PM9/26/21
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tina confirmo

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Sep 26, 2021, 1:19:57 PM9/26/21
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mitchr...@gmail.com

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Sep 26, 2021, 2:03:37 PM9/26/21
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On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 10:19:57 AM UTC-7, tina confirmo wrote:
> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3VlxTv7J6zg/maxresdefault.jpg
>
> this is not the eclipse of Io

Einstein used light speed without direction.
It is what counts in Gamma math... not its direction.

Mitchell Raemsch

carl eto

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Sep 26, 2021, 2:25:55 PM9/26/21
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Did you fall on your head?

carl eto

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Sep 26, 2021, 2:26:54 PM9/26/21
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Will you be employed next year?

mitchr...@gmail.com

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Sep 27, 2021, 4:17:57 PM9/27/21
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You need to take the right direction.
For Gamma only speed counts.
Einstein stayed with that.

Kye Fox

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Sep 27, 2021, 5:04:56 PM9/27/21
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tina confirmo wrote:

> t https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3VlxTv7J6zg/maxresdefault.jpg
>
> what is the source?

women in australian police_state. Wow, fake money capitalism makes police
criminal mazafaka, if you cant put down a woman, kiss my ass.

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carl eto

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Sep 27, 2021, 6:36:17 PM9/27/21
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carl eto

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Sep 27, 2021, 6:37:03 PM9/27/21
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How did Cavendish derive Newton's constant using a 10^-8 kg force since the minimum uncertain of a scale in 1790 was 1 mg?

Richard Hertz

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Sep 28, 2021, 3:24:04 PM9/28/21
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On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 9:03:01 PM UTC-3, carl eto wrote:

<snip>

> The velocity of the entity does not justify the structure. In addition, the velocity of light cannot be measured. Roemer is accredited as the first to measure the velocity of light using the eclipse of Io but the eclipse of Io can only be viewed from Jupiter. Bradley's stellar aberration is used to calculate the velocity of light but Bradley's measurements are within the measurement uncertainty using a pendulum clock that is used to determine the displacement of Bradley's star during a solar eclipse. Fizeau (1849) measures the velocity of light using a rotating cogwheel but to measure the velocity of light requires the time a single light pulse propagates a specific distance yet Fizeau's cogwheel is producing a series of light pulses. Foucault (1850) replaced Fizeau's cogwheel with rotating mirrors which also forms a series of light pulses. Weber-Kohlrausch (1856) calculate the velocity of light using the units of a discharging capacitor but the electrons of a discharging capacitor are propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s. Michelson (1926) attempts to calculate the velocity of light using an interferometer and wave equation (λf = c) but Michelson's interference fringes are formed by an ether and the wave equation is also based on light waves formed by the motion of an ether that does not physically exist. An oscilloscope is used to determine the velocity of light but the wave pattern formed by the oscilloscope is formed by electrons that are propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s yet light propagates at the velocity of 108 m/s. Furthermore, GPS (Global Positioning System) is used to justify the measurement of the velocity of light but the GPS is produced by the intensity differences of the satellites' radio signals not by the velocity of the radio signals since the electrons of the GPS system cannot measure the time difference of radio waves propagating at the velocity of light. The velocity of light is unknown.

The velocity of light, impossible to be measured with enough accuracy, was settled axiomatically as 299,792,458 m/sec by the
international institution BIMP by 1986 (and NIST agree with this axiomatic value of c). Read something about it here:

Latest measurements of c, h and G "universal" constanst. Some doubts.
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics.relativity/c/4SpK8yijPVA

So, the speed of c has been axiomatically defined by a bunch of technical bureaucrats from several countries.

Problem solved. Next!

Dono.

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Sep 28, 2021, 5:04:33 PM9/28/21
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On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:24:04 PM UTC-7, uber crank Richard Hertz brainfarted:

> Latest measurements of c, h and G "universal" constanst. Some doubts.
> <link to Richard Hertz' previously debunked imbecilities snipped<
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