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mpc755

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Nov 15, 2009, 10:14:21 AM11/15/09
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Aether is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced based on mass. The
more massive an object is, the less aether it contains, the more
aether it displaces. Aether is a non-compressible (up until it is
compressed into matter) elastic medium and pushes back. The pushing
back is gravity.

waldofj

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:04:51 AM11/15/09
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Gee, I'm sure glad we've straightened that out.

mpc755

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:34:11 AM11/15/09
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I know.

BURT

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:01:03 PM11/15/09
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Aether is in everything everything is in the aether.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:03:13 PM11/15/09
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A=mc^2. Matter is compressed aether. When matter becomes uncompressed,
the effect the increase in volume matter occupies while it transitions
to aether is energy.

BURT

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:12:33 PM11/15/09
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> to aether is energy.- Hide quoted text -
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Matter is infinitely dense energy in the aether.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:15:08 PM11/15/09
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Matter is compressed aether. Matter displaces aether. Aether is an
elastic medium which pushes back in an attempt to return to a state of
rest. The pushing back is gravity.

A moving particle or object has an associated aether wave.

BURT

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:24:29 PM11/15/09
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> A moving particle or object has an associated aether wave.- Hide quoted text -

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Aether is the substance of time.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:28:07 PM11/15/09
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Time is a concept. Atomic clocks interaction with aether causes them
to 'tick' at different rates.

BURT

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Nov 15, 2009, 4:04:28 PM11/15/09
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> to 'tick' at different rates.- Hide quoted text -

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Geomtery is the substance of space. Aether is the most important
concept.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 15, 2009, 5:45:38 PM11/15/09
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Time is a concept. Geometry is mathematics. Aether is the base form of
matter.

BURT

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Nov 15, 2009, 6:19:23 PM11/15/09
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> matter.- Hide quoted text -

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Aether is more important. It gives orders to energy through the
immaterial.
Geometry is the space curve substance.

Space is immaterial.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 15, 2009, 10:46:51 PM11/15/09
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Space is immaterial, aether is not.

BURT

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:23:46 PM11/15/09
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> Space is immaterial, aether is not.- Hide quoted text -

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No space-time aether is all immaterial. You do not understand aether.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:59:53 PM11/15/09
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Aether is uncompressed matter and as such it is material.

BURT

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Nov 16, 2009, 12:52:07 AM11/16/09
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> Aether is uncompressed matter and as such it is material.- Hide quoted text -

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No this is a contradiction. There are two side to the universe the
matterial and the immatterial.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:30:45 AM11/16/09
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The universe is material. There is something everywhere.

PD

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:47:34 AM11/16/09
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Waiting for Godot.

BURT

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:54:35 PM11/16/09
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> The universe is material. There is something everywhere.- Hide quoted text -

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Energy is in the immaterial and it is inbetween atoms and light.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:08:52 PM11/16/09
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Energy cannot exist in immaterial (i.e. nothing). Aether exits
inbetween nuclei of atoms. Light is either particles of aether
creating displacement waves in the aether, or light is a pointed/
directed wave:

http://superstruny.aspweb.cz/images/fyzika/foton.gif

I prefer the concept of a directed/pointed wave. The wave enters and
exits both slits and the point of the wave enters and exits a single
slit in a double slit experiment.

BURT

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Nov 16, 2009, 7:48:17 PM11/16/09
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This is exactly where it is at. Time is immaterial and energy is in
it. The immaterial is more important than the energy it is in.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:01:25 PM11/16/09
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Immaterial = nothing.

BURT

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:16:01 PM11/16/09
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Wrong. It means not matter. It is space with time flow over matter.

Mitch Raemsch

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mpc755

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:26:07 PM11/16/09
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In Aether Displacement, matter is compressed aether. If you want to
start your own thread, please do so. But unless you are willing to
agree with aether is the basic form of matter, please stop responding
to my posts.

YBM

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:55:17 PM11/16/09
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> On Nov 16, 8:16 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 16, 5:01 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 16, 7:48 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Nov 16, 1:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 16, 1:54 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 16, 5:30 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 12:52 am, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 8:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 11:23 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 7:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 6:19 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 4:04 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 12:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 3:24 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 12:15 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 3:12 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 12:03 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 3:01 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 8:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 11:04 am, waldofj <wald...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 10:14 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:

It could be funny to read cranks talking together, but at some (early)
point it becomes boring.

Ilja

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:14:02 AM11/17/09
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On 15 Nov., 20:14, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Aether is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced based on mass. The
> more massive an object is, the less aether it contains, the more
> aether it displaces. Aether is a non-compressible (up until it is
> compressed into matter) elastic medium and pushes back. The pushing
> back is gravity.

An ether theory which would be able to compete with current physical
theories cannot be obtained by repeating short texts in a newsgroup.

You have to work some years to support a theory, with mathematics, and
then to publish it. A hard job, no warranty of success - scientific
journals have extremely high requirements if the theory is against the
mainstream.

You simply loose your time.

mpc755

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:37:56 AM11/17/09
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On Nov 17, 9:14 am, Ilja <ilja.schmel...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 15 Nov., 20:14, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Aether is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced based on mass. The
> > more massive an object is, the less aether it contains, the more
> > aether it displaces. Aether is a non-compressible (up until it is
> > compressed into matter) elastic medium and pushes back. The pushing
> > back is gravity.
>
> An ether theory which would be able to compete with current physical
> theories cannot be obtained by repeating short texts in a newsgroup.
>

It already is.

> You have to work some years to support a theory, with mathematics, and
> then to publish it. A hard job, no warranty of success - scientific
> journals have extremely high requirements if the theory is against the
> mainstream.
>
> You simply loose your time.

I know of two other posters who agree with the Aether Displacement
take on E=mc^2 (i.e. it is the physical transformation of matter to
aether which is energy) and a third who considers it an interesting
model. I know of one other poster who agrees with Aether Displacement
as a physical explanation for the Casimir Effect (i.e. the displaced
aether of each of the plates extends beyond the other plate and the
displaced aether pushing back in an attempt to return to a state of
rest causes the plates to come together). I know of one poster who
understands the concept of wave-particle duality is the moving
particle or object having an associated aether wave and is thinking of
experiments which would verify this (i.e. a variation of this
experiment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment
where you combine the aether wave of one photon with the 'particle' of
another and get interference. The detection of the photon 'particle'
associated with the aether wave prior to its interfering with the
other photon 'particle' is evidence of AD and against QM).

Aether Displacement is more correct than any other theory to date.

YBM

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:42:58 AM11/17/09
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mpc755 wrote:
> I know of two other posters who agree with the Aether Displacement
> take on E=mc^2 (i.e. it is the physical transformation of matter to
> aether which is energy) and a third who considers it an interesting
> model.

No surprise: this newsgroup is full of idiots like you.

mpc755

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:51:51 AM11/17/09
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> experiment:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi...

> where you combine the aether wave of one photon with the 'particle' of
> another and get interference. The detection of the photon 'particle'
> associated with the aether wave prior to its interfering with the
> other photon 'particle' is evidence of AD and against QM).
>
> Aether Displacement is more correct than any other theory to date.

To clarify the variation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment:

The aether wave associate with a photon travels available paths while
the photon 'particle' travels a single path. In a double slit
experiment where you detect the photon exiting a single slit, the
aether wave associated with the photon, which enters and exits both
slits, exits the other slit. In a second double slit experiment, where
you do not detect the photon exiting a single slit, the photon
'particle' exits the other slit. You combine the paths of the aether
wave which exited the slit in the first double slit experiment with
the photon 'particle' which exited the slit in the second double slit
experiment and you get interference.

It is important to remember after interacting with the BBO, the
photons will be mirror-images of each other at this point combining
the waves will cancel each other out and there will be no
interference. The aether wave of one of the photons needs to go
through a beam splitter and interfere with the photon 'particle' which
is reflected by the same beam splitter.

BURT

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Nov 17, 2009, 4:29:41 PM11/17/09
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> To clarify the variation ofhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi...

>
> The aether wave associate with a photon travels available paths while
> the photon 'particle' travels a single path. In a double slit
> experiment where you detect the photon exiting a single slit, the
> aether wave associated with the photon, which enters and exits both
> slits, exits the other slit. In a second double slit experiment, where
> you do not detect the photon exiting a single slit, the photon
> 'particle' exits the other slit. You combine the paths of the aether
> wave which exited the slit in the first double slit experiment with
> the photon 'particle' which exited the slit in the second double slit
> experiment and you get interference.
>
> It is important to remember after interacting with the BBO, the
> photons will be mirror-images of each other at this point combining
> the waves will cancel each other out and there will be no
> interference. The aether wave of one of the photons needs to go
> through a beam splitter and interfere with the photon 'particle' which
> is reflected by the same beam splitter.- Hide quoted text -

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Light can move orthoganal to the space curve. This is a straight path.
Matter too does not have to follow the Earth's curve while falling
straight down.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 17, 2009, 4:32:35 PM11/17/09
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Please do not respond to my posts.

A=Mc^2 where A is aether and M is matter. Matter transitioning to
aether is energy.

PD

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Nov 17, 2009, 4:34:15 PM11/17/09
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Oh dear. Now MPC doesn't even want to converse with his one-line-
babble doppelganger.
He really is much happier just talking to himself.

BURT

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Nov 17, 2009, 4:50:38 PM11/17/09
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> aether is energy.- Hide quoted text -

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I have every right to.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:09:18 PM11/17/09
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I know you do, but I'm asking you not to.

This thread is titled 'Aether Displacement' and it is a place to
discuss the theory of Aether Displacement. Now it is obvious you
consider the aether to be immaterial (i.e. nothing) and still be a
medium which light propagates through. Lots of people believe in the
magic of mass-less particles propagating through nothing. You are
definitely not alone there.

But, in this thread matter is compressed aether. They are one in the
same. They are different states of the same stuff. A=Mc^2.

Now, you do not have to agree with this, and it is obvious you don't
which is fine, but I would prefer you start your own thread if you
want to discuss you idea of what the aether is.

Because in AD, aether has mass.

YBM

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:09:42 PM11/17/09
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mpc755 wrote:
> On Nov 17, 4:29 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Mitch Raemsch

> Please do not respond to my posts.

Kook fight!

> A=Mc^2 where A is aether and M is matter. Matter transitioning to
> aether is energy.

Idiot.

BURT

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:14:49 PM11/17/09
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> Because in AD, aether has mass.- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks for being polite but no. I have a right to do what I want if
you do not like it take yourself somewhere else.

Mitch Raemsch

PD

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:18:06 PM11/17/09
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MPC, you seem to be under some mistaken impression about the ground
rules of a usenet discussion group. You do not have the right to
constrain conversation, even on your own threads, to statements that
are in agreement with your position. Any post you make, you make with
the implicit consent that any and all members of the group may post in
any fashion that is consistent with the by-laws of the group.

If you do not wish to consent in this fashion, then you have no right
to post to this group, because signing up to post to it means
consenting to its by-laws.

If you wish to post in a fashion that is more along the lines of what
you prefer, where you can control the subject matter of any responses,
may I suggest that you sign up for a free blog at http://www.blogger.com/home?

PD

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:18:37 PM11/17/09
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Exactly.

BURT

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:20:52 PM11/17/09
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The point where aether and energy meet is in gravity. When fall stops
when it hits the ground aether lowers mass. Aether also effects lights
energy by fast and slow time. This in science is called the Redshift
and Blueshift of the Pound Rebka experiment. Aether is in energy and
energy is in the aether.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:23:47 PM11/17/09
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Do you think the aether has mass?

I take it the answer is no.

In AD, the aether has mass.

Your concept of the aether is nothing like the aether of AD.

In a double slit experiment do you think the C-60 molecule is creating
a displacement wave in the aether?

In AD, deBroglie's statement of, "A moving particle or object has an
associated wave" is interpreted as a moving particle or object has an
associated aether wave.

In AD, Einstein statement of, "What is fundamentally new in the ether
of the general theory of relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz
consists in this, that the state of the former is at every place
determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether
in neighbouring places" is interpreted to mean the moving C-60
molecule is connected to the aether, and along with the aether in
neighbouring places, is in a state of displacement.

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mpc755

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:26:47 PM11/19/09
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On Nov 15, 10:14 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Aether is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced based on mass. The
> more massive an object is, the less aether it contains, the more
> aether it displaces. Aether is a non-compressible (up until it is
> compressed into matter) elastic medium and pushes back. The pushing
> back is gravity.

Expanding matter displaces existing aether at 'c'.

BURT

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:18:36 PM11/19/09
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Point particles don't expand but gravitational orbits do.

mpc755

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:30:26 PM11/19/09
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In AD, point particles are the part of the photon which can be
detected as a particle. The point particle part of the photon enters
and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. The photon aether
displacement wave enters and exits both.

BURT

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:18:39 PM11/19/09
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In the end Einstein doubted what he won the Nobel Prize for. Light is
not a particle in the aether.
No. The light wave must pass through both. It is larger enough to do
so. Not so for electron aether waves.

Flow is not displaced in togetherness.

Mitch Raemsch

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mpc755

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Yes, the photon aether displacement wave passes through both slits.
But, the part of the photon which is capable of being detected as a
quantum of aether enters and exits a single slit.

And yes, for electron aether waves. The double slit experiment has
been performed with particles as large as C-60 molecules.

A moving particle or object has an associated aether wave.

BURT

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:00:07 PM11/20/09
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> A moving particle or object has an associated aether wave.- Hide quoted text -

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If the photon is real can you tell me what wave of light it is in? The
electric wave or magnetic light wave?

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:43:41 PM11/20/09
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A photon is either a particle of aether creating a displacement wave
in the aether, or a directed/pointed wave in the aether.

I prefer the concept of a directed/pointed wave in the aether. Here is
an image I like of what a photon may exist as:

http://superstruny.aspweb.cz/images/fyzika/foton.gif

I like this definition of a photon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

"The position of the particle is regarded as being where the wave
amplitude is greatest and the momentum is determined by the
wavelength."

The difference is the interpretation of the above description. In AD,
there is a physical wave entering and exiting both slits in a double
slit experiment. The 'wave amplitude is greatest' at the tip/point of
the photon and this tip/point enters and exits a single slit. It is
this tip/point which allows the photon to be detected as (i.e.
collapse to) a quantum of aether.

The image of the photon in the gif above could be a physical particle
traveling through the aether and it itself could be 'cutting' through
the aether as a standalone entity. The photon 'wave' physically enters
and exits both slits and the tip/point enters and exits a single slit.

In AD, something physically enters and exits both slits and the
ability of the photon to be detected as a quantum of aether enters and
exits a single slit. If there are no detectors at the exits to the
slits then the photon wave creates interference which alters the
direction the tip/point (i.e. wave amplitude) of the photon travels.
If there are detectors at the exits to the slits, then the photon tip/
point is detected exiting a single slit and the photon aether wave
which is exiting the other slit is turned into chop.

Once you get to particles as large as C-60 molecules then there is no
confusion about what is occurring. The C-60 molecule enters and exits
a single slit and the displacement wave it creates in the aether
enters and exits multiple slits. If you attempt to detect the C-60
molecule, the displacement wave is turned into chop and there is no
interference. Think of a boat in the water heading towards two slits.
The bow wave of the boat is out in front of and riding along with the
boat and enters and exits both slits ahead of and along with the boat.
The bow wave exits both slits and creates interference with alters the
direction the boat travels. If you place buoys at the exits to the
slits, the bow wave is turned into chop (i.e. decoherence) and there
is no interference and the direction the boat travels is not altered.

BURT

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Nov 21, 2009, 9:02:34 PM11/21/09
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> is no interference and the direction the boat travels is not altered.- Hide quoted text -

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But what light wave is the particle in? the Electric or the magnetic?

No. Einstein doubted the photon and he won the Nobel Prize for it. He
was willing to see that he could not reconcile both particle and wave
objectively. This was later in his life.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:08:07 PM11/21/09
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I prefer the concept of the light wave being a wave in the aether with
a tip/point which allows it to be detected as a particle.

> No. Einstein doubted the photon and he won the Nobel Prize for it. He
> was willing to see that he could not reconcile both particle and wave
> objectively. This was later in his life.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

It is easily reconcilable as the physical photon wave entering and
exiting both slits and the tip/point enter and exiting a single slit

BURT

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:17:07 PM11/21/09
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> in a double slit experiment.- Hide quoted text -

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But what wave is the particle in?

mpc755

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Nov 21, 2009, 11:02:32 PM11/21/09
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The wave in the aether.

BURT

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:10:01 AM11/22/09
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NO. The aether force in the light is not in its electric energy but in
it's magnetic force. This is aether force and it is based on spin
pushing away or pushing toward.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:24:23 AM11/22/09
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photon 'particle' physically enters and exits a single slit in a
double slit experiment.

BURT

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:00:42 PM11/22/09
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You coould anwswer the valid question that dispoves any particle
nature of light mpc.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:21:09 PM11/22/09
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There is a particle nature to a photon. When a photon is detected, a
quantum of aether is detected.

BURT

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:49:20 PM11/22/09
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This is double talk. The photon is a particle. Go somewhere else.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:07:37 PM11/22/09
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It is a physical description to the observed behaviors of a double
slit experiment when photons are used. It is a physical description of
the observed behaviors in a delayed choice quantum eraser experiment
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment).

The photon 'wave' physically travels available paths and the photon


'particle' travels a single path.

My concept of a photon is that it is a directed/pointed wave in the
aether. The photon aether wave physically enters and exits available
slits in a double slit experiment where the tip/point of the photon
aether wave physically enters and exits a single slit. It is the tip/
point which allows the photon to be physically detected as a quantum
of aether.

BURT

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:45:26 PM11/22/09
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> of aether.- Hide quoted text -

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The point particle has an aether wave that it is inside of in Quantum
Mechanics not but that is matter but not light. Light is soley a wave
and does not vibrate like matter. It is not a particle.

Aether wave is matter.

Mitch Raemsch

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mpc755

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:01:31 PM11/22/09
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AFAIK, there is no such thing as aether in QM. That's why QM is
incorrect. Somehow, something as complex as a C-60 molecule is able to
create an interference pattern on its own. No associated aether wave
in QM. In AD, the C-60 molecule creates a displacement wave in the
aether and it is the displacement wave which enters and exits multiple
slits and creates interference which alters the direction the C-60
molecule, which enters and exits a single slit, travels.

BURT

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:19:42 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 4:01 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 6:45 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On Nov 22, 3:07 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > It is a physical description to the observed behaviors of a double
> > > slit experiment when photons are used. It is a physical description of
> > > the observed behaviors in a delayed choice quantum eraser experiment
> > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> > > Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment).
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> > > The photon 'wave' physically travels available paths and the photon
> > > 'particle' travels a single path.
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> > > My concept of a photon is that it is a directed/pointed wave in the
> > > aether. The photon aether wave physically enters and exits available
> > > slits in a double slit experiment where the tip/point of the photon
> > > aether wave physically enters and exits a single slit. It is the tip/
> > > point which allows the photon to be physically detected as a quantum
> > > of aether.- Hide quoted text -
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> > The point particle has an aether wave that it is inside of in Quantum
> > Mechanics not but that is matter but not light. Light is soley a wave
> > and does not vibrate like matter. It is not a particle.
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> > Aether wave is matter.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> AFAIK, there is no such thing as aether in QM.

I am a new scientist and I am an aether scientist. The wave pushing
vibration is an aether wave.

Mitch Raemsch

glird

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On Nov 22, 5:21 pm, mpc755 wrote:
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>< There is a particle nature to a photon. When a photon is detected, a quantum of aether is detected. >

No, mpc; a photon isn't a quantum of aether; it's a quantity of
energy.

glird

mpc755

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:48:53 PM11/22/09
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In a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule, is the C-60 molecule
entering and exiting one or multiple slits? In AD, the C-60 molecule
physically enters and exits a single slit and the displacement wave it

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mpc755

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The physical effect the quantum of aether has is energy.

BURT

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:08:58 PM11/22/09
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The strength of gravity effects aether flow rate. It sets up an order.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:37:05 PM11/22/09
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In a double slit experiment, do you think the C-60 molecule enters and


exits a single slit and the displacement wave it creates in the aether

enters and exits multiple slits?

BURT

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:43:05 PM11/22/09
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> enters and exits multiple slits?- Hide quoted text -

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In the double slit model for the electron the electron aether wave
isn't big enough yet it still behaves as if it were going through the
two holes. This must be God in physics. Even science has no clue as to
this. They don't know what they think they do. It must be true and
seen as God revealing the wave nature of matter even though the
physics doesn't explain it all the way. We still get verification of
the truth you see.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:51:28 PM11/22/09
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I'm explaining it to you. A C-60 molecule is much larger than an
electron. The double slit experiment has been performed with C-60
molecules.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

"Recent studies have revealed that interference is not restricted
solely to elementary particles such as protons, neutrons, and
electrons. Specifically, it has been shown that large molecular
structures like fullerene (C60) also produce interference patterns."

The C60 molecule is creating an aether displacement wave in the
aether. It is this displacement wave which enters and exits multiple
slits and creates interference. The C60 molecule enters and exits a
single slit and the direction it travels is altered by the
interference it encounters upon exiting a slit.

BURT

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:58:43 PM11/22/09
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That does not detract from the truth about the elctron. But molecules
vibrate becaused their atoms do this is the second quantum level. It
has a boudary but no surface. The first level has a exclusion surface
and is a solid because of it. So this is atom vibration aether that
you are describing. I've seen Uranium vibrate in the Aether.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:09:21 PM11/22/09
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So, either an electron is more like a photon or it is more like a C60
molecule. Either way, an aether wave is entering and exiting both
slits in a double slit experiment and what is detected as the electron
particle enters and exits a single slit.

BURT

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:35:20 PM11/22/09
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> particle enters and exits a single slit.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Light is not a particle. It's wave is not particle Aether.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:42:45 PM11/22/09
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A C60 molecule creates a displacement wave in the aether. It is this
displacement wave which enters and exits both slits while the C60
molecule enters and exits a single slit.

A photon aether wave enters and exits both slits in a double slit
experiment and what is detected as a quantum of aether (i.e. the
photon particle) enters and exits a single slit.

An electron exists somewhere between a photon and a C60 molecule.

BURT

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:36:28 AM11/23/09
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> An electron exists somewhere between a photon and a C60 molecule.- Hide quoted text -

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What is your point?

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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When discussing electrons and the double slit experiment, you said,


"Even science has no clue as to this. They don't know what they think
they do."

I'm explaining to you what is occurring for an electron in a double
slit experiment. For a photon, the photon aether wave physically
enters and exits both slits and the ability for the photon to be
detected as a quantum of aether enters and exits a single slit. For a
C60 molecule, the aether displacement wave enters and exits both slits
and the C60 molecule enters and exits a single slit.

I think an electron is more like a photon than a C60 molecule, but it
doesn't really matter. What is important is the aether wave associated
with the electron physically enters and exits both slits and what is
detected as the electron enters and exits a single slit.

AD has a clue as to this.

BURT

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:04:44 PM11/23/09
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> AD has a clue as to this.- Hide quoted text -

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The particle is in its quantum wave until it collapses completely. It
is in the time of the quantum aether wave. Things happen when light is
around.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:42:13 PM11/23/09
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The particle is in the aether wave.

BURT

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:44:31 PM11/23/09
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> The particle is in the aether wave.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

Yes. But there are different aethers that are One. Aether is One.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:16:13 PM11/23/09
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There is only one aether.

BURT

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:28:27 PM11/23/09
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> There is only one aether.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

Wrong. There is difference in togetherness.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:13:42 PM11/23/09
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In AD, aether is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced based on
mass. The more massive the matter is, the less aether it contains, the
more aether it displaces.

The aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. The
aether pushes back.

The pushing back is gravity.

A C60 molecule in a double slit experiment creates an aether
displacement wave. It is the displacement wave the C60 molecule
creates in the aether which enters and exits multiple slits while the
C60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. Upon exiting the slits,
the aether displacement wave creates interference which alters the
direction the C60 molecule travels.

BURT

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:17:56 PM11/23/09
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> The particle is in the aether wave.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

Aether is difference in togetherness. Aether is One.

Mitch Raemsch

YBM

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BURT a �crit :

> On Nov 23, 4:42 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 23, 7:04 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
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>>> On Nov 23, 4:54 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Nov 23, 4:36 am, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 22, 8:42 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 22, 11:35 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 7:09 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 9:58 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 6:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 9:43 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 6:37 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 9:08 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 5:07 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 7:47 pm, glird <gl...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 5:21 pm, mpc755 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < There is a particle nature to a photon. When a photon is detected, a quantum of aether is detected. >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [bunch of nonsense]

Do you really think that anyone, but a psychiatrist, is interested
by the nonsense you are throwing to each other?

Don't you guy know how to use e-mail?


mpc755

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In AD, aether is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced based on

BURT

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:34:20 PM11/24/09
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> direction the C60 molecule travels.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

What is the strength of gravity?

mpc755

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The strength of gravity is dependent on the amount of aether displaced
which is based on mass. The more massive an object is per volume, the
less aether it contains, the more aether it displacement, the more
aether there is to push back, the greater the gravity.

BURT

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:59:18 PM11/24/09
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> aether there is to push back, the greater the gravity.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

How do we measure the push strength of the aether?

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:03:00 PM11/24/09
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There are all sorts of ways to measure it. We measure it in gravity.
We measure it when a C60 molecule creates an interference pattern in a
double slit experiment. We measure it when discussing a photon as a
quantum of aether. We measure it when we discuss E=mc^2, except this
is a different form of the 'strength' of the aether. E=mc^2 measures
the strength of matter transitioning to aether.

BURT

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:09:18 PM11/24/09
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> the strength of matter transitioning to aether.- Hide quoted text -

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Well. Weight is in mass so gravity is more than the surrounding aether
field. It is inside of matter.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:16:58 PM11/24/09
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Yes, aether exists between the nuclei of atoms. But we measure mass by
how much aether the matter displaces and how much the displaced aether
is able to push back (i.e. gravity).

BURT

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:27:07 PM11/24/09
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> is able to push back (i.e. gravity).- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

My point is that gravity aether is in mass as weight. Did you know you
can lift a gyroscope sideways?
This is due to its motion gravity of rotation.

Mitch Raemsch

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mpc755

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On Nov 24, 4:27 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> My point is that gravity aether is in mass as weight. Did you know you
> can lift a gyroscope sideways?
> This is due to its motion gravity of rotation.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Matter is compressed aether. Aether has mass. Aether is displaced by
matter. For massive objects, the aether pushing back is gravity.

BURT

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There is motion gravity or energy flow weight. Anti gravity is
rotation flow weight canceling gravity force weight.

Mitch Raemsch

mpc755

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Aether is displaced by matter. The more massive an object is per
volume, the less aether it contains, the more aether it displaces.
Aether is an elastic medium and when displaced pushes back in an
attempt to return to a state of rest. For massive objects, the pushing
back is gravity.

A C60 molecule creates a displacement wave in the aether. It is the
displacement wave which enters and exits both slits in a double slit
experiment while the C60 molecule enters and exits a single slit.

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