Bodkin's first and last post in this forum?

[patdolan]

Can one of you Bodkondians come up with them? I would like to compare the two. Maybe also throw in a classic Bodkin post from say the middle of his career here.

[Paul Alsing]

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:16:21 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:

> Can one of you Bodkondians come up with them? I would like to compare the two. Maybe also throw in a classic Bodkin post from say the middle of his career here.

Are you too ignorant to just do a search on your own?

[patdolan]

Is this how you honor the memory of Bodkin, Paul Alsing? By bursting into his online wake and upending the tables of cold cuts and punch?

[Richard Hertz]

This is a post from his first day here. Priceless.
Not so sure about relativity, being on his first steps. How cute.

He evolved as the IKEA man (I Know Everything of Anything) with time, one book per week.

Last time he posted, he was teaching what he learnt from the 600+ books that he had read about science and shit.

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SPECIAL RELATIVITY KILLED BY A RIVET
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics.relativity/c/OOmvBQqr-OY/m/HBNPmZCp6wcJ

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bodk...@gmail.com, Jul 1, 2013, 7:57:15 PM

I thought about this a bit, and the sound signal will always have to
travel faster than the end of the rivet.

In the frame of the wall, where the rivet is going at 0.9c, the speed of
the sound signal will be
vs' = (vs + 0.9c)/(1 + (0.9)vs/c)
right?
vs is the speed of sound when the rivet is at rest, about 6000 m/s. I
think we'll eventually want to write that as 0.00002c. Did I do that right?

So suppose the rivet expands from L to L' in the time it takes for this
signal to get to the other end. That time is
L'/vs'
right?

Now in that same time the front of the rivet is going 0.9c a distance of
L'-L. So that time is also
(L'-L)/(0.9c)
right?

So equate these two times, like so
(L'-L)/(0.9c) = L'/vs'
and we can surely find out L' if we know L and vs.
(vs')(L'-L) = (0.9c)(L')
or
(0.9c)/(vs') = (L'-L)/L' = 1 - L/L'
or
L/L' = 1 - (0.9c)/(vs') = 1 - (0.9c)(1+(0.9)vs/c)/(vs + 0.9c)
and now we can put in the value for vs
L/L' = 1 - (0.9)[1+(0.9)(0.00002)]/(0.00002 + 0.9)
and I think the rest is just putting numbers in the calculator
L/L' = 1 - (0.9)(1.000018)/(0.90002) = 0.00000422
which means L'/L = 236,847. That's pretty long alright.

I hope I did everything right.


If you put a number in for L, you can find L', and then you can also
find the time for the signal to travel.

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[rotchm]

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 7:16:21 PM UTC-4, patdolan wrote:

<off topic snipped>

You still have ongoing discussions that are pending. Do not start new ones without terminating the other ones. We are waiting for your replies in your other post.

[patdolan]

Very interesting Richard. Thank you. This makes me wonder about Dono and Dirk's first posts. Even my own.

[Paul Alsing]

Bodkin's memory? I think that he finally understands that constantly replying to a troll is a big waste of time and has just quit on you. I can't say that I blame him, you are pretty much a waste of good air...

[whodat]

There are lots of ways to waste time, and much more interesting toy
makers. And there are plenty of failed scientists.

[patdolan]

whodat are you Starmaker?

[Richard Hertz]

Bodkin is reading all of this using a browser and googlegroups.

He can't help it, due to his obsessive character.

But he doesn't dare to come out of the closet by posting, because he would be tracked immediately, which terrifies him.

It's a pity, because he's quite a character, plus a contributor of 50% or more of the content here since 2013.


For unknown reasons, he needs to be anonymous. Maybe, because he lied too much about himself.

What a pity.

[Paul Alsing]

You are projecting again, Richard...

[patdolan]

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 10:16:41 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:

WHAT!!!! Are you saying Bodkin is alive and well? First let me express my heartfelt happiness if he is indeed in good health.

Second, are you implying Richard that you have some sort of technological method that has finally tracked Bodkin down? Pray tell, what is that technological method?

[Richard Hertz]

This is the last post that Bodkin made before aioe.org banned sci.physics.relativity, due to abuse complains.
It was on Mon, 2 May 2022 10:34:04 -0000 (UTC-5), his local time.

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Subject: Re: A Precise Statement of Time Dilation
From: Odd Bodkin
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 15:34:04 -0000 (UTC)
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Now, the group seems to be allowed again. It can be seen here:

https://news.aioe.org/tools/statistics-about-groups/index.php?id=statistics-about-groups&group=sci.physics.relativity

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But, for some unknown reason, Bodkin chose to stop posting.

Maybe he's reading many more books, to replenish his scripts.

OR, he's just peeping this NG to see if he's missed or not.

YOU ARE MISSED, BODKIN. COME OUT!

[Maciej Wozniak]

No, Bodkin, you're not. One barking idiot less.

[Richard Hertz]

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 3:42:47 AM UTC-3, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 08:29:53 UTC+2, Richard Hertz wrote:

<snip>

> > OR, he's just peeping this NG to see if he's missed or not.
> >
> > YOU ARE MISSED, BODKIN. COME OUT!

> No, Bodkin, you're not. One barking idiot less.

Moroney is barking at sci.physics. He considers that this NG is unworthy of his wisdom and won't come back.

Dono is in "vigilante mode", waiting to jump at anybody's throat if it's mentioned that Einstein was a complete hoax, never real.

Bodkin became an ex-pat.

I was left without assholes to mock at. Not fair.

[Paparios]

Again, very funny you trolls have nothing useful to say about relativity (which is the subject of the group).

[Maciej Wozniak]

Would be hard to say anything useful about some
religious mumble of some insane maniacs.

[Paparios]

And yet you still can't refrain yourself, as the good troll you are, from posting nothing useful....LOL

[Prokaryotic Capase Homolog]

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 8:06:15 PM UTC-5, Paul Alsing wrote:

> Bodkin's memory? I think that he finally understands that constantly
> replying to a troll is a big waste of time and has just quit on you.
> I can't say that I blame him, you are pretty much a waste of good air...

Participating in this forum has become an addiction for many, and I'm
glad that Odd seems to have realized that he has better things to do
with his time.

[patdolan]

No one quits an addiction that "cold turkey". Bodkin has either had a medical emergency that he may have survived but by which he has been incapacitated. Or, as Richard Hertz indicates, Bodkin has gone to ground and is cowering in terror at the prospect of his true identity being revealed at the hands of Blood Hound Hertz.

I wish him well whatever his current situation is, even if he is standing before St. Peter. I only have a passing interest in Bodkin's truth--same as Dono. To me Bodkin will always be the ponderous wood charmer, fighting a valiant last stand for relativity in a post-relativistic world. And Dono will always be the blood cousin of Gollum.

[Maciej Wozniak]

Like your geocentric method of measuring your interval idiocy?

[Richard Hertz]

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 1:40:05 PM UTC-3, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 8:06:15 PM UTC-5, Paul Alsing wrote:


> > Bodkin's memory? I think that he finally understands that constantly
> > replying to a troll is a big waste of time and has just quit on you.
> > I can't say that I blame him, you are pretty much a waste of good air...

OR maybe he realized that parroting borrowed knowledge from "best-selling" books on relativity has a limit, unless
he gets involved in mathematical backed assertions, which always eluded him, beyond Lorentz Transforms.

Repeating the same shit, year after year, along with poor attempts to explain what is fundamental science took a heavy toll
in the brain of a simple woodworker, clogged with undigested info coming from 600+ books.

> Participating in this forum has become an addiction for many, and I'm
> glad that Odd seems to have realized that he has better things to do
> with his time.

Tell it to Moroney, a nut case (18 years of his life).

[Maciej Wozniak]

On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 19:40:29 UTC+2, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 1:40:05 PM UTC-3, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 8:06:15 PM UTC-5, Paul Alsing wrote:
>
>
> > > Bodkin's memory? I think that he finally understands that constantly
> > > replying to a troll is a big waste of time and has just quit on you.
> > > I can't say that I blame him, you are pretty much a waste of good air...
> OR maybe he realized that parroting borrowed knowledge from "best-selling" books on relativity has a limit, unless

Bod? Maybe realized?
No.

[Richard Hertz]

It must be sad for someone with such religious belief on the cult of relativity REALIZING that he has been deceived by his church
all this time.

Nothing to be shown as a real proof that relativity has the slightest bit of truth and that's pure metaphysical garbage.

Meanwhile, REAL SCIENCE progresses steadily and offers proofs of its coherence on a daily basis.

Relativity has been left, nowadays, to the realm of FICTION and only serves to the purposes of Hollywood's scify script writers,
thanks to the fairy tales about space bending, wormholes, particle physics, time dilation, black holes and shit.

Nothing to show, nothing to be proven and verified on daily life. Sad, sad, sad.

Only remain a bunch of parasites in academia and some amateurs, who still are making a living by monetizing that shit on YouTube.

But the forces behind the cult are fully active. You can't access material that DISPROVES SR or GR on social media or online book
reservoirs. You have to go deep into the dark web to get these papers, books and documentary.

Any attempt to criticize Einstein's work is automatically banned on Western Internet. It's different on other subnetworks far from West.

Because the cabal controls it. One reservoir with more than 80 million documents (pdfdrive) erases continuously uploads with critics.

You have to search on Chinese or Russian sites.

[Paul Alsing]

[Maciej Wozniak]

On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 21:20:49 UTC+2, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 3:48:50 PM UTC-3, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 19:40:29 UTC+2, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 1:40:05 PM UTC-3, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 8:06:15 PM UTC-5, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Bodkin's memory? I think that he finally understands that constantly
> > > > > replying to a troll is a big waste of time and has just quit on you.
> > > > > I can't say that I blame him, you are pretty much a waste of good air...
> > > OR maybe he realized that parroting borrowed knowledge from "best-selling" books on relativity has a limit, unless
> > Bod? Maybe realized?
> > No.
> It must be sad for someone with such religious belief on the cult of relativity REALIZING that he has been deceived by his church
> all this time.

Rather impossible than sad.

[Richard Hertz]

It's worthy to note that other fossilized minds have also disappeared from this NG.
It seems that "the dirty dozen" is discouraged from posting here, given that the "US leg" is M.I.A.

I can recall some names like:

- JanPB
- Moortel
- Python
- ...

You can observe the activities of the entire sci.* NGs in the window that this site provides (last 24 hours):

http://news2.nemoweb.net/

When the page loads, press the button "Voir les hiérarchies" and select "sci.*" in the pop up.

Then you can scroll the activities of members along the entire sci.* NGs, and also check from where they are posting.

You can order the window by posters by just clicking the tab "Expéditeur".

[whodat]

Nope. I am nobody's sock and I have no socks. Could you have picked a
more disgusting poster to attempt to align me with? So the question
is just a straight out insult because you were not able to answer a
physics question I raised. Please stop damaging yourself, it isn't cute
or pretty.

If I were a game player, I'd not have replied. Since you appear to have
a need to play games here I urge you to follow Bodkin's example and do
something better than participating here in the mode(s) you've
displayed. But of course if your participation here represents the
pinnacle of your career, by all means...

[whodat]

Then again, it could be that lashing out is the only thing that makes
your life worth living. I think it unfortunate this appears to be a
legitimate observation. Only you can make yourself better. Ordinarily
that is a pretty easy step.

[whodat]

On 5/12/2022 2:08 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:

<snop>

> I was left without assholes to mock at. Not fair.

Self-deprecation should fill that gape rather nicely.

[Richard Hertz]

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 3:57:28 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote:
> On 5/12/2022 2:08 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:

<snip>

> > I was left without assholes to mock at. Not fair.

> Self-deprecation should fill that gape rather nicely.

No, asshole. It's not funny to tell a joke to yourself. I better target imbeciles like you.

[whodat]

You don't even understand how self-deprecation works when
an attempted slur fails. Sigh.

[Ross A. Finlayson]

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:16:21 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> Can one of you Bodkondians come up with them? I would like to compare the two. Maybe also throw in a classic Bodkin post from say the middle of his career here.

Last I heard we were talking about soup of the day - ....

I kept telling him that I figured he wanted all physics with that,
just to make sure, ....

It kind of reminds me, ..., of Sam Wormley. Now I enjoy Sam, though
he actually posts articles besides pointing out usual errors or what
are perceived as ambiguities what would result under various interpretations,
errors, anyways often I was telling him things like "a ha there's actually
the old measured thermal besides microwave background of the universe",m
this informed him and he was outraged, but I was mostly able to talk him
through it, if not that outrage was undeserved, that there was scientific
evidence that was unexpected, in his opinion, whhich would mean outrage,
besides "either bad physics or bad science of bad experiment". Here the
point is that I am always not wrong and have convinced even Sam, Pat, Odd,
that my fall gravity super-unifying field theory is ... never wrong.

[Richard Hertz]

I've found Bodkin.

He switched fields to write about from relativity to geopolitics, at ZeroHedge.

As usual, he's taking a beating from other posters. The novelty that ZeroHedge has is that every forum member
can vote up or down other posts.

By now, the born again Bodkin is scoring very bad: COMMENT SCORE -16760


Call him Einstein101.

https://www.zerohedge.com/user/272127

[whodat]

I see nothing to connect the postings you refer to (and provided a link)
to Odd Bodkin.

[The Starmaker]

the odd is looking for a new catfishing idenity...





--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

[The Starmaker]

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> patdolan wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 9:40:05 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 8:06:15 PM UTC-5, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bodkin's memory? I think that he finally understands that constantly
> > > > replying to a troll is a big waste of time and has just quit on you.
> > > > I can't say that I blame him, you are pretty much a waste of good air...
> > > Participating in this forum has become an addiction for many, and I'm
> > > glad that Odd seems to have realized that he has better things to do
> > > with his time.
> > No one quits an addiction that "cold turkey". Bodkin has either had a medical emergency that he may have survived but by which he has been incapacitated. Or, as Richard Hertz indicates, Bodkin has gone to ground and is cowering in terror at the prospect of his true identity being revealed at the hands of Blood Hound Hertz.
> >
> > I wish him well whatever his current situation is, even if he is standing before St. Peter. I only have a passing interest in Bodkin's truth--same as Dono. To me Bodkin will always be the ponderous wood charmer, fighting a valiant last stand for relativity in a post-relativistic world. And Dono will always be the blood cousin of Gollum.
>
> the odd is looking for a new catfishing idenity...

but first of course he will try to convince Aoie.org to reinstate the
newsgroup...

but that is going to be differcult if China bribed Aoie.org to blacklist
sci.physics.relativity.

Since China already bribed The Biden Adminstration...wats a little
newsserver?

[Ken Seto]

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 9:06:15 PM UTC-4, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:37:27 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:

> > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:33:29 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:16:21 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Can one of you Bodkondians come up with them? I would like to compare the two. Maybe also throw in a classic Bodkin post from say the middle of his career here.

> > > Are you too ignorant to just do a search on your own?

> > Is this how you honor the memory of Bodkin, Paul Alsing? By bursting into his online wake and upending the tables of cold cuts and punch?

> Bodkin's memory? I think that he finally understands that constantly replying to a troll is a big waste of time and has just quit on you. I can't say that I blame him, you are pretty much a waste of good air...

Bodkin quite posting BECAUSE HE RAN OUT OF BULLSHIT.

[The Starmaker]

The truth is..

Aioe.org had banned sci.physics.relativity from it's sever.

And he simply cannot 'afford' to use a pay service.



and his grants have run out...

[The Starmaker]

On Sun, 15 May 2022 13:30:13 -0700, The Starmaker
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> patdolan wrote:
>> >
>> > On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 9:40:05 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 8:06:15 PM UTC-5, Paul Alsing wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Bodkin's memory? I think that he finally understands that constantly
>> > > > replying to a troll is a big waste of time and has just quit on you.
>> > > > I can't say that I blame him, you are pretty much a waste of good air...
>> > > Participating in this forum has become an addiction for many, and I'm
>> > > glad that Odd seems to have realized that he has better things to do
>> > > with his time.
>> > No one quits an addiction that "cold turkey". Bodkin has either had a medical emergency that he may have survived but by which he has been incapacitated. Or, as Richard Hertz indicates, Bodkin has gone to ground and is cowering in terror at the prospect of his true identity being revealed at the hands of Blood Hound Hertz.
>> >
>> > I wish him well whatever his current situation is, even if he is standing before St. Peter. I only have a passing interest in Bodkin's truth--same as Dono. To me Bodkin will always be the ponderous wood charmer, fighting a valiant last stand for relativity in a post-relativistic world. And Dono will always be the blood cousin of Gollum.
>>
>> the odd is looking for a new catfishing idenity...
>
>
>but first of course he will try to convince Aoie.org to reinstate the
>newsgroup...
>
>but that is going to be differcult if China bribed Aoie.org to blacklist
>sci.physics.relativity.
>
>Since China already bribed The Biden Adminstration...wats a little
>newsserver?

Then the odd has to find
a newsserver he feels is secure...

in other words one that you guys cannot hack..
and dat ain't easy to find.

Those newsservers out there can be hacked
with Brutus or any http password hacking program.

Pwned with brute force.


One can make a contest online.
You enter a hacker forum
and say,

You guys are pussies
yous don't know how to hack.

Hack this guy for a hundred dollars!

You won't believe
how many hackers will
jump on it...just for fun!

[Richard Hertz]

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 8:16:21 PM UTC-3, patdolan wrote:
> Can one of you Bodkondians come up with them? I would like to compare the two. Maybe also throw in a classic Bodkin post from say the middle of his career here.

One of the last post that Bodkin wrote, in the day he was cancelled.

As usual, professor Bodkin is teaching what mathematics is, what physics is and what science is.

Maybe he moved to YouTube, to monetize his wisdom.

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Subject: Re: A Precise Statement of Time Dilation
From: Odd Bodkin
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 00:17

Ricardo Jimenez <rick...@earthlink.net> wrote:


I am getting the feeling that the notion of rigorous mathematical
proof is alien to most of the posters here. Well, Newton and Einstein
have long been criticized for often being deficient in that area too.
No contemporary mathematician would accept Newton's laws of motion and
Einstein's relativity postulates, as their authors stated them, as
mathematical axioms. The best that can be said about them, from such
a point of view, is that they are intuitive modeling principles that
might guide one in writing down real axioms that can be used in
setting up a mathematical model.


Congratulations for landing on the difference between mathematics and physics.

In mathematics, one starts with a set of axiomatic statements and then
deductively find conclusions that stem from them, without actual reference
to any reality check as to whether the things you discover are actually
instantiated in nature.

Physics, on the other hand, is always going to test axioms and hypotheses
against experimental test. In this way, even if the axioms seem plausible
and the deductive reasoning is flawless, if it does not agree with
measurements and observations, then they are wrong. On the other hand,
experimental validation does not serve as a proof in any formal sense that
the hypotheses are correct. Rather, the hypotheses are provisionally
supported by the evidence, and no proof is ever obtainable by this
comparison.

If you thought that physics could be subject to the same methodologies as
mathematical analysis, then I’m afraid you have the wrong idea of what
science is about.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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