On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 3:29:39 AM UTC-7, nero wrote:
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> Il giorno domenica 17 gennaio 2016 17:39:24 UTC+1, Gary Harnagel ha scritto:
> > On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 9:05:55 AM UTC-7, nero wrote:
> > >
> > > ..perhaps we are saying the same thing in different way ..if i go towards
> > > the waves (including sound and light) , of course , i can say that in
> > > many different ways ..
> > > 1) i go towards the waves and so i read their information before ..
> > > 2) i go towards the waves and so i feel an higther radiation'pressure ..
> > > 3) i go towards the waves and so i count an higther number of waves
> > > (Doppler effect)..
> > > 4) i go towards the waves and so the waves , relatively to me , have an
> > > higther speed ( but , of course , its have the same speed relatively to
> > > the source and : the light speed is 300 000 kms relatively to ECI ( or
> > > gravitational field or fixed stars ..that is little complicate to
> > > explain)).. which way do you prefer ? or have you an other way to
> > > propose ?
> >
> >
> > 4) is dead wrong for light. The speed an observer will measure for light
> > is always the same, regardless of his relative speed wrt the source.
> >
> > Gary
>
> 5 and more )
> A) the young Einstein asked to himself : if i depart at 300 000 kms from
> a source'waves ,what i see ? and he answered : i see not waves but a
> continuous signal... because i am departing at 300 000 kms ,like the
> waves front speed ...
This was before he derived special relativity, after which he realized that
such a scenario was not possible.
> B) then you can imagine yourself stopped and receiving a front'wave :
> you see the waves ,up and down , that are travelling at 300 000 kms
> against you ..
> C) then you can imagine yourself going at 300 000 kms towards the
> source'wave ...
> an exterior observer sees you , in the case C) , receiving double
> frequency than in case B) , double pressure ' radiation , and probable
> informations before than in B)..
You're talking about closing speed, which is NOT what the moving observer
sees.
> there is something bad or wrong in the exterior reliefments ?
> again Mr E made half path ..like in the topic 'The goat of Dingle '
> ..now this is my opinion ..
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