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Is non-electric magnetism -- excluding magnetic monopoles -- possible?

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Radium

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Mar 24, 2007, 12:24:39 AM3/24/07
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Puppet_Sock <puppet_sock_at_hotmail_dot_com> wrote in
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>It is an interesting premise that "all magnetism is electrical
>in origin." It's not necessarily the case.

Then will someone please show me an example of non-electric magnetism
-- apart from magnetic monopoles? As hard as I've researched, I
haven't been able to find any.


Thanks a bunch,

Radium

Ahmed Ouahi, Architect

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Mar 24, 2007, 1:10:43 AM3/24/07
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Love!

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Ahmed Ouahi, Architect

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Mar 24, 2007, 1:16:40 AM3/24/07
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Perhaps the history of the errors of mankind, all things considered, is more
valuable and interesting than that of their discoveries.

Truth is uniform and narrow; it constantly exists, and does not seem to
require so much an active energy, as a passive aptitude of the soul in order
to encounter it.

But error is endlessly diversified; it has no reality, but is the pure and
simple creation of the mind that invents it.

In this field the soul has room enough to expand herself, to display all her
boundless faculties, and all her beautiful and interesting extravagancies
and absurdities.

-- Benjamin Franklin


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Salmon Egg

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Mar 24, 2007, 1:58:03 AM3/24/07
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On 3/23/07 9:24 PM, in article
1174710279....@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "Radium"
<gluc...@gmail.com> wrote:

There he is trying to ask stupid questions again. To his detriment, he has
asked a good one although I do not think he understands that.

My suggestion is to study the special theory of relativity in order to
understand the question and its consequences.

Bill
-- Fermez le Bush--about two years to go.


Salmon Egg

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Mar 24, 2007, 1:59:39 AM3/24/07
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On 3/23/07 10:10 PM, in article eu2bv2$uli$1...@nyytiset.pp.htv.fi, "Ahmed
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> Love!

Nonsense!

Ahmed Ouahi, Architect

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Mar 24, 2007, 2:19:48 AM3/24/07
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Is it nonsense the Love, because, it does eliminate all the ugliness, you
included!?

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Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Think About That!


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Bill Hobba

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Mar 24, 2007, 2:58:55 AM3/24/07
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"Radium" <gluc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What do you think the definition of a magnetic monopole is?

Bill

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> Thanks a bunch,
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> Radium
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Radium

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Mar 24, 2007, 10:24:59 AM3/24/07
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On Mar 23, 10:58 pm, "Bill Hobba" <rubb...@junk.com> wrote:

> What do you think the definition of a magnetic monopole is?

A magnet which is only north or south. Not having north on one side
and south on the other. Just north or south.

North monopole = negative magnetic charge

South monopole = positive magnetic charge


It's a Miracle

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Mar 24, 2007, 11:10:55 AM3/24/07
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George Washington is hiding in a monopole and nobody can find him but we
met and I tried to touch him and my finger bled a drop. He told me
something I forgot and when they force me to remember we are going to
chop down some cherry trees because George never told a lie. He looked
like a fat cop when I saw him.

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Mar 24, 2007, 12:35:01 PM3/24/07
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Ever seen one?


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Radium

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Mar 24, 2007, 12:38:58 PM3/24/07
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On Mar 24, 8:35 am, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> Ever seen one?

No. That is why I was asking for non-electric magnetism excluding
magnetic monopoles.

Uncle Al

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Mar 24, 2007, 12:41:42 PM3/24/07
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Nuclear magneton; no electrons involved. Since magnetism arises from
conserved charge flow (Maxwell's equations), what could you mean by
"non-electric"?

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It's a Miracle

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Mar 24, 2007, 1:19:17 PM3/24/07
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Radium said;

>No. That is why I was asking for
> non-electric magnetism excluding
> magnetic monopoles.

Non electric magnetism might be clothes.George Washington invented his
own generals uniform and it looks like a cross between santa claus and a
generals uniform. Generals are scientific. George Washington is hiding
in a monopole and nobody can find him but me once. Also humans were
lunatics with clothes for most of history except for George Washington.

It's a Miracle

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Mar 24, 2007, 1:26:01 PM3/24/07
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George Washington started 4 revolutions and is hiding in a monopole.

It's a Miracle

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Mar 24, 2007, 2:03:45 PM3/24/07
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I think George Washington had wooden teeth because of the guns in the
constitution which started a slow war kind of if you know what I mean.

It's a Miracle

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Mar 24, 2007, 2:17:53 PM3/24/07
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They got George Washingtons general uniform on display someplace but I
don't know where.

Bill Hobba

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Mar 24, 2007, 7:42:41 PM3/24/07
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"Radium" <gluc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Then you have it - something that can not possibly be a result of the usual
form of Maxwells equations - or even the usual form of QED. Once you have a
both a north and south then it is explainable by those two previous
theories.

Bill


Bill Hobba

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Mar 24, 2007, 7:47:26 PM3/24/07
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"Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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> Radium wrote:
>>
>> Puppet_Sock <puppet_sock_at_hotmail_dot_com> wrote in
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.research/msg/029a72c00e1c69c9?dmode=source&hl=en&output=gplain
>> :
>>
>> >It is an interesting premise that "all magnetism is electrical
>> >in origin." It's not necessarily the case.
>>
>> Then will someone please show me an example of non-electric magnetism
>> -- apart from magnetic monopoles? As hard as I've researched, I
>> haven't been able to find any.
>
> Nuclear magneton; no electrons involved. Since magnetism arises from
> conserved charge flow (Maxwell's equations), what could you mean by
> "non-electric"?

He has been posting the same 'silly' stuff for quite a while. For some
reason he doesn't understand what is obvious to everyone else - so far all
known magnets occur with a north and south pole and are explained by the
standard Maxwell equations and/or QED. However, it is rather easy to extend
those equations to encompass magnetic monopoles, if and when such are ever
found.

Thanks
Bill

Bill Hobba

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Mar 24, 2007, 7:53:11 PM3/24/07
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"Radium" <gluc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And that is why I posted the question I did - basically you need magnetic
monopoles to require the 'extended' Maxwell equations that include them. Of
course, since such still falls under the umbrella of EM, and their is only
the EM field, not just an electric field, then your question is basically
'silly'. I suggest you study the proper literature and think about it.

Bill


Angelo Campanella

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Mar 28, 2007, 11:40:41 PM3/28/07
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Ahmed Ouahi, Architect wrote:
>>Then will someone please show me an example of non-electric magnetism
>>-- apart from magnetic monopoles? As hard as I've researched, I
>>haven't been able to find any.

Lodestones.

Angelo Campanella

Salmon Egg

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Mar 29, 2007, 12:22:09 AM3/29/07
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On 3/28/07 8:40 PM, in article
ZyGOh.207559$5j1.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net, "Angelo
Campanella" <a.camp...@att.net> wrote:

Lodestones work because of the current produced by electron spins. You can't
get there from here.

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