What is the evidence that electrons attract protons?
BURT
not. If they do not it is not valid to say that they attract.
Mitch Raemsch
tadchem
Conservation of angular momentum.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
Puppet_Sock
> On Aug 21, 12:58 am, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > If they attract each other they ought to come together. But they do
> > not. If they do not it is not valid to say that they attract.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
Mitch has reached close to the end of the 19th century.
Soon we can expect him to start moaning about the
discrepancy in the orbit of Mercury, and measuring
the speed of light using the moons of Jupiter.
> Conservation of angular momentum.
Nope. The ground state of an electron in a Hydrogen atom is
the S state. It has zero angular momentum.
Socks
Don Stockbauer
Ever hear of free electrons?
BURT
Free electrons are attracted to the shells.
Mitch Raemsch
Don Stockbauer
They like to go to the beach?
Antares 531
As in a bolt of lightning?
Antares 531
Maybe that would explain why lightning bolts hit along the beach so
frequently.
Don Stockbauer
They get a charge out of it.
PD
What is the evidence that gravity attracts? If the sun and the earth
attracted each other, they should come together. Why don't they?
PD
PD
Tear a kleenex into little pieces. Run a comb through your hair when
it's clean. Hold the comb a few millimeters above the little pieces of
tissue. There is evidence that electrons attract protons.
PD
Benj
Oh man! DUDES! [takes another toke] THAT is SO HEAVY!
Y.Porat
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who told you that photons are the Attraction agents ??
a phootn moves in straight lines
if it is sent** from** the comb** to **the kleenex piece
**its momentum has a direction *!! -----
--- THAT SHOULD PUSH KLEENEX OUTWARDS!!
NOT INWARDS TO THE DIRECTION OF THE COMB!!
here you have your **violation of momentum conservation!!
the Circlon does not violate momentum conservation
**because it does not move in straight lines**
between the acting and acted objects
it curves and hit the Kleenex from its rare side!!
and while doing it
it delivers it s momentum at the moment of collision
exactly in the direction it was at that moment
the direction was
to push' inwards'
(inwards i mean to make the two objects to come closer )
and not outwards
as in your stupid photon explanation !!
it i s not just one Circlon
it is a whole set of them in different directions
while it is the **sum of all of them**
that makes an un balanced force inwards
see the appendix of my link
and try to UNDERSTAND IT once and for all
and dont talk about innovations you** dont understand**
because what you do is in responsibility !!
it is not your stupid curved space
not even in gravitation !!!
if it is curved space that does gravitation
**there is no need in gravitons*
so why people keep on dealing with gravitons ???
and that is why it is so important to find something like that
Circlon in the
LHC experiments!!
ATB
Y.Porat
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Dirk Van de moortel
acbe3e93-9e93-4a32...@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
For some people this is evidence that combs attract pieces of tissue.
Dirk Vdm
Y.Porat
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> PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> acbe3e93-9e93-4a32-8510-5c65c468a...@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
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> > On Aug 20, 11:58 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> If they attract each other they ought to come together. But they do
> >> not. If they do not it is not valid to say that they attract.
>
> >> Mitch Raemsch
>
> > Tear a kleenex into little pieces. Run a comb through your hair when
> > it's clean. Hold the comb a few millimeters above the little pieces of
> > tissue. There is evidence that electrons attract protons.
>
> For some people this is evidence that combs attract pieces of tissue.
>
> Dirk Vdm
sorry sorry !!
i though the question was --
the electron attract **photons** (:-)
i ddin t imagine that anyone will ask
for evidence that Protons and electrons are attracted
so let my answers be for the question:
what is the evidence t hat electron attract **photons** (:-)
anyway
in that occasion i will tell the people that
**not all ** Protons in the nuc
are positively charged !!
( there must be at least something innovative in my posts (:-)
ATB
Y.Porat
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
>
> If they attract each other they ought to come together.
They do. The results is what we call 'atoms'.
> But they do not. If they do not it is not valid to say that they attract.
Is it valid to say that the earth attracts my laptop? Yes. Then they
ought to come together. But they do not. Why? Because of an entity we
call a 'table'.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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I think you left the stove on.
Y.y.Porat
> BURT wrote:
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> > If they attract each other they ought to come together.
>
> They do. The results is what we call 'atoms'.
>
> > But they do not. If they do not it is not valid to say that they attract.
>
> Is it valid to say that the earth attracts my laptop? Yes. Then they
> ought to come together. But they do not. Why? Because of an entity we
> call a 'table'.
>
> --
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> I think you left the stove on.
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you will be surprised to hear that Burt is right
with his question !!
the e electron does not orbit the nuc
and even not ' hovering' above it
it is connected to the proton of the nuc
as
**a chain of orbitals **!!
and stretching out wards
see my above mentioned link
ATB
Y.Porat
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
Uh, oh. Another one.
'Evidence that electrons attract protons' does not imply orbits or
shells. Nor does it rule them out. The 'evidence' is simply that energy
is needed to separate them.
The earth attracts my laptop. That doesn't mean my laptop is in orbit
around the earth.
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Paul Hovnanian pa...@hovnanian.com
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Have gnu, will travel.
Y.Porat
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> Have gnu, will travel.
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did i say orbiting??!!
see my link
ATB
Y.Porat
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