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Jacobi

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May 15, 2008, 3:33:56 PM5/15/08
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The only way to go further and perpetuate is by
reproduction. The only elementary entity which
reproduces are viruses. These viruses evolves in
more sophisticated viruses called humans or also
intelligent aliens in UFOs from other planets.

Basically all life forms are viruses.

The only way to do make a virus, which reproduces,
is by engineering, which is programming. More
specific, by adding more sophisticated info to already
existing info.

According to many science and religions, gravity, EM,
matter and forces does not really exists, but are merely
artifacts based on other artifacts, which again, they are
nothing but raw info. This leads to the conclusion that
this universe must be a virtual reality simulation.

What other possibilities are there according to relativity?

Dirk Van de moortel

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May 15, 2008, 3:45:15 PM5/15/08
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"Jacobi" <wp...@mobsters.com> wrote in message news:7484ef24-300c-4161...@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com...

The possibility that you are an imbecile springs to mind.

Dirk Vdm

Jacobi

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May 15, 2008, 4:01:54 PM5/15/08
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On May 15, 9:45 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Jacobi" <wp...@mobsters.com> wrote in messagenews:7484ef24-300c-4161...@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com...

Rather you try to hide your own imbecility, by reading the
entire good stuff, quoting, and getting mad on your own
not understanding. This is gay.

If you have questions, ask nicely.

In any case, please preserve the reptility in your questions
and give them to the members of your family, womens first.

Igor

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May 15, 2008, 5:54:53 PM5/15/08
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Just take another toke and sign off of the internet. All will be
fine.

dlzc

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May 15, 2008, 6:20:42 PM5/15/08
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On May 15, 12:33 pm, Jacobi <wp...@mobsters.com> wrote:
> The only way to go further and perpetuate
> is by reproduction.

Why not "spawning"? If you are going to invoke video game
technology...

> The only elementary entity which reproduces
> are viruses.

They do this inside other creatures / organisms. So they have to have
an environment provided by an organism that truly *does* reproduce.
The smallest of which is "bacteria", "yeast", or "algae".

> These viruses evolves in more
> sophisticated viruses called humans or
> also intelligent aliens in UFOs from
> other planets.

Falsifiability is a little hard to achieve on this one.

> Basically all life forms are viruses.

More than that. Much more.

> The only way to do make a virus,
> which reproduces, is by engineering,
> which is programming. More specific,
> by adding more sophisticated info to
> already existing info.

"successive approximation"
"evolution"

> According to many science and
> religions, gravity, EM, matter and
> forces does not really exists, but
> are merely artifacts based on other
> artifacts, which again, they are
> nothing but raw info.

"Really" has nothing to do with Science. What we have are tools that
make predictions that can be tested. Our models, our "fairy tales",
are based on constructs of our minds, yes. And if they agree with
Nature, we don't imagine our constructs are all there is...

> This leads to the conclusion that
> this universe must be a virtual
> reality simulation.

Only if you avoid all logic.

> What other possibilities are there
> according to relativity?

Anything that is agreement with the laws of physics. "External
generation of Reality" pretty much creates those laws from whole
cloth. The difficult thing would be to break relativity, if you used
mutally-consistent laws.

David A. Smith

PS: Yes Dirk, I know this is "Mr. Change Nym Every Two Or Three Days"

Mike

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May 15, 2008, 6:24:44 PM5/15/08
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On May 15, 3:45 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
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> "Jacobi" <wp...@mobsters.com> wrote in messagenews:7484ef24-300c-4161...@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com...

This is a double spring-double mass system. The other srping is you.

Total waste. Elementary algebra and square root will get you nowhere
other than usenet.

Mike

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harry

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May 16, 2008, 7:21:04 AM5/16/08
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"Jacobi" <wp...@mobsters.com> wrote in message
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> The only way to go further and perpetuate is by
> reproduction. The only elementary entity which
> reproduces are viruses. These viruses evolves in
> more sophisticated viruses called humans or also
> intelligent aliens in UFOs from other planets.
>
> Basically all life forms are viruses.

:-))

> The only way to do make a virus, which reproduces,
> is by engineering, which is programming. More
> specific, by adding more sophisticated info to already
> existing info.
>
> According to many science and religions, gravity, EM,
> matter and forces does not really exists, but are merely
> artifacts based on other artifacts, which again, they are
> nothing but raw info.

Indeed, that's one opinion...

> This leads to the conclusion that
> this universe must be a virtual reality simulation.

No, an opinion doesn't lead to a conclusion. :-))

> What other possibilities are there according to relativity?

Relativity leaves open many possibilities, such as that this universe is
about as real as Newton thought (just some relationships have been refined).

Harald


Mike

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May 16, 2008, 10:43:30 AM5/16/08
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On May 16, 7:21 am, "harry" <harald.vanlintelButNotT...@epfl.ch>
wrote:

Newtonian reality is dead.

Relativity has the following known possibilities:

SR: timeless universe, no qualitative or quantitative change. Not
valid because there is an arrow of time. If arrow of time is discarded
as artificial, then SR describes a movie of some kind (not simulation,
just playback).

GR: spacetime must be a substance of some kind. Since this cannot be
detected through experiments (no drag) the only possibility is that GR
implies a computer simulation.

I cannot go into details, subject is very complicated.

Mike


> Harald

harry

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May 16, 2008, 11:04:46 AM5/16/08
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"Mike" <ele...@yahoo.gr> wrote in message
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Sure. He asked about REALITY.

> Relativity has the following known possibilities:
>
> SR: timeless universe,

No.

> no qualitative or quantitative change.

No.

> Not valid because there is an arrow of time.

Then why did you make an invalid claim?

> If arrow of time is discarded
> as artificial, then SR describes a movie of some kind (not simulation,
> just playback).
>
> GR: spacetime must be a substance of some kind. Since this cannot be
> detected through experiments (no drag) the only possibility is that GR
> implies a computer simulation.

Hre's another one: since I can't feel the moon, it must be a computer
simulation. :-)

> I cannot go into details, subject is very complicated.

Well, that's certainly true. :-))

Harald


Mike

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May 16, 2008, 11:16:07 AM5/16/08
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On May 16, 11:04 am, "harry" <harald.vanlintelButNotT...@epfl.ch>
wrote:
> "Mike" <elea...@yahoo.gr> wrote in message

It's not my claim. You should read. Also, read the whole post before
replying.


>
> > If arrow of time is discarded
> > as artificial, then SR describes a movie of some kind (not simulation,
> > just playback).
>
> > GR: spacetime must be a substance of some kind. Since this cannot be
> > detected through experiments (no drag) the only possibility is that GR
> > implies a computer simulation.
>
> Hre's another one: since I can't feel the moon, it must be a computer
> simulation. :-)

Your statement puts an end to this discussion.

Computer simulation theories abou tthe universe generate specific
experimental predcitions science neglects.

>
> > I cannot go into details, subject is very complicated.
>
> Well, that's certainly true. :-))

Bet'ya.

Mike

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Dirk Van de moortel

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May 16, 2008, 2:01:23 PM5/16/08
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dlzc <dl...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On May 15, 12:33 pm, Jacobi <wp...@mobsters.com> wrote:
>> The only way to go further and perpetuate
>> is by reproduction.
>

[snip]

> David A. Smith
>
> PS: Yes Dirk, I know this is "Mr. Change Nym Every Two Or Three Days"

I know you kow ;-)

Dirk Vdm

Jacobi

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May 16, 2008, 6:43:18 PM5/16/08
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fuck you moaran

Jacobi

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May 16, 2008, 6:56:10 PM5/16/08
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On May 16, 12:20 am, dlzc <dl...@cox.net> wrote:
> On May 15, 12:33 pm, Jacobi <wp...@mobsters.com> wrote:
>
> > The only way to go further and perpetuate
> > is by reproduction.
>
> Why not "spawning"? If you are going to invoke video game
> technology...

What other alternatives have you, you
fucking moron.

Put them up or shut up, and say thank you to me because I teach you
something

>
> > The only elementary entity which reproduces
> > are viruses.
>
> They do this inside other creatures / organisms. So they have to have
> an environment provided by an organism that truly *does* reproduce.
> The smallest of which is "bacteria", "yeast", or "algae".

Wrong stupid. All life are viruses

>
> > These viruses evolves in more
> > sophisticated viruses called humans or
> > also intelligent aliens in UFOs from
> > other planets.
>
> Falsifiability is a little hard to achieve on this one.

Then is it true all I just said. You are a moron

>
> > Basically all life forms are viruses.
>
> More than that. Much more.

Read the entire paragraph moron

>
> > The only way to do make a virus,
> > which reproduces, is by engineering,
> > which is programming. More specific,
> > by adding more sophisticated info to
> > already existing info.
>
> "successive approximation"
> "evolution"


Successive my ass. Still fucking viruses, nothing else

>
> > According to many science and
> > religions, gravity, EM, matter and
> > forces does not really exists, but
> > are merely artifacts based on other
> > artifacts, which again, they are
> > nothing but raw info.
>
> "Really" has nothing to do with Science.

Sure it has. You can not detect reality, you stupid.

Thats the point.


> What we have are tools that

No stupid, you have nothing, beacause your
tools and any tools are neither reality.

Fuck you for being stupid.

> make predictions that can be tested. Our models, our "fairy tales",

predict my ass, these are relations in the virtual world

> are based on constructs of our minds, yes. And if they agree with

So yeees, I was right.

> Nature, we don't imagine our constructs are all there is...

The are / is nothing you call Nature

You are Nature. Chemical reactions in your
fucking stupid brain. And cells in your
fucking body. They want you to eat. They
want you to fuck and reproduce. Not you.

You happens not to live on Earth.

You are Earth. Fuck yooo

>
> > This leads to the conclusion that
> > this universe must be a virtual
> > reality simulation.
>
> Only if you avoid all logic.

No, that was by invoking logic. You fucking
liar stupid

>
> > What other possibilities are there
> > according to relativity?
>
> Anything that is agreement with the laws of physics. "External
> generation of Reality" pretty much creates those laws from whole
> cloth. The difficult thing would be to break relativity, if you used
> mutally-consistent laws.

You understand shit, stupid


>
> David A. Smith
>
> PS: Yes Dirk, I know this is "Mr. Change Nym Every Two Or Three Days"

Yes, he pump you in your ass, he likes pumping tight fat asses

Jacobi

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May 16, 2008, 6:57:24 PM5/16/08
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On May 16, 8:01 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-

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> dlzc <dl...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> 0ed7406a-cbec-42d2-92ab-c71b8c1d1...@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com

>
> > On May 15, 12:33 pm, Jacobi <wp...@mobsters.com> wrote:
> >> The only way to go further and perpetuate
> >> is by reproduction.
>
> [snip]
>
> > David A. Smith
>
> > PS: Yes Dirk, I know this is "Mr. Change Nym Every Two Or Three Days"
>
> I know you kow ;-)
>
> Dirk Vdm


I kow you too

N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)

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May 16, 2008, 7:53:23 PM5/16/08
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Dear Jacobi:

"Jacobi" <wp...@mobsters.com> wrote in message

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...
> What other alternatives have you, you
> fucking moron.

If you are not interested in discussion, why do you post?

David A. Smith


T-minus108

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May 16, 2008, 9:12:47 PM5/16/08
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On May 16, 6:56 pm, Jacobi <wp...@mobsters.com> wrote:

> The are / is nothing you call Nature

You're saying there is no such thing as nature? Can you see? I can
look outside and see thousands of different life forms. THIS IS NATURE.

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