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elliptic vs. the ecliptic

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John Gogo

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Feb 22, 2014, 7:16:41 PM2/22/14
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The way we measure universal objects will depend on both.

John Gogo

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Feb 22, 2014, 7:29:15 PM2/22/14
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On Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:16:41 PM UTC-6, John Gogo wrote:
> The way we measure universal objects will depend on both.

From wiki:

In mathematics, an ellipse is a curve on a plane surrounding two focal points such that a straight line drawn from one of the focal points to any point on the curve and then back to the other focal point has the same length for every point on the curve. As such, it is a generalization of a circle which is a special type of an ellipse that has both focal points at the same location. The shape of an ellipse (how 'elongated' it is) is represented by its eccentricity which for an ellipse can be any number from 0 (the limiting case of a circle) to arbitrarily close to but less than 1.

John Gogo

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Feb 22, 2014, 7:36:37 PM2/22/14
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Elliptic is the discrete measure of the ecliptic plane. Elliptic is almost a subset of ecliptic. For instance, I believe that the variance of Jupiter's moons does not involve the speed of light- instead is the eclipical effect of the rising and falling of Jupiter throughout the year.

John Gogo

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Feb 22, 2014, 7:40:24 PM2/22/14
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As the Earth rises and falls with respect to Jupiter throughout the year ecliptically is bound to give a 22 minute delay between the main moons of Jupiter from near point to far point.

John Gogo

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Feb 22, 2014, 7:49:04 PM2/22/14
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This is an instantaneous effect.

John Gogo

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Feb 22, 2014, 7:53:31 PM2/22/14
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When the Earth rises and falls with respect to Jupiter throuout the year gives rise to a 22 minute delay or difference. I propose the 22 minute delay is the effect of the variance of the object Jupiter obscuring the effect of the two moon with the six moth period. There is no doubt that in my mind- what I see is whole and instantaneous. You could not convince me of no other.

Poutnik

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Feb 22, 2014, 8:00:35 PM2/22/14
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John Gogo posted Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:36:37 -0800 (PST)

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> Elliptic is the discrete measure of the ecliptic plane. Elliptic is
> almost a subset of ecliptic. For instance, I believe that the variance
> of Jupiter's moons does not involve the speed of light- instead is the
> eclipical effect of the rising and falling of Jupiter throughout the
> year.

Elliptic curve can be subset of ANY plane.

The elliptic orbit of the Moon
definitely is not subset of the Ecliptic plane.


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Poutnik

John Gogo

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Feb 22, 2014, 8:08:19 PM2/22/14
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The moon is Earth's most powerful engine- I imagine everything about the moon is bound to be unique.

Poutnik

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Feb 22, 2014, 8:22:28 PM2/22/14
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John Gogo posted Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:08:19 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > Elliptic curve can be subset of ANY plane.
> >
> > The elliptic orbit of the Moon definitely is not subset of the
> > Ecliptic plane.
>
> The moon is Earth's most powerful engine. I imagine everything about
> the moon is bound to be unique.

Except things Moon has in common with objects of similar kind, or with
all other celestial objects.

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YBM

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Feb 23, 2014, 9:07:36 AM2/23/14
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Le 23/02/2014 01:53, John Gogo a écrit :
> On Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:49:04 PM UTC-6, John Gogo wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:40:24 PM UTC-6, John Gogo wrote:
...
>> This is an instantaneous effect.
>
> When the Earth rises and falls with respect to Jupiter throuout the year gives rise to a 22 minute delay or difference. I propose the 22 minute delay is the effect of the variance of the object Jupiter obscuring the effect of the two moon with the six moth period. There is no doubt that in my mind- what I see is whole and instantaneous. You could not convince me of no other.
>

Well, so you are stubbornly stupid. So What ?

John Gogo

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Feb 23, 2014, 8:28:16 PM2/23/14
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I'm not just stubbornly stupid- I'm driven in some desperate way as towards identifying what man is.

John Gogo

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Feb 23, 2014, 8:51:12 PM2/23/14
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On Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:07:36 AM UTC-6, YBM wrote:
At some point YBM- I have to ask myself if you are real. I am saddened sometimes when you do not respond for weeks at a time. It makes me feel weakened.
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