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Nobel Committe had 45 years to gave a prize to Einstein for relativity, and it didn't happen.
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Richard Hertz
Jul 26, 2022, 6:59:38 PM7/26/22
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A lame consolation prize was awarded to him, in 1921, for what he
stole from Lenard´s research (which got the Nobel for what he REALLY
proved). But, still, the Committee opened the door for a FUTURE 2nd. prize
IF and ONLY IF any experimental proof of relativity was achieved while
he was alive. Nothing proven in the next 34 years, until 1955.
Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
It's the most conclusive proof that NO SERIOUS SCIENTISTS considered
relativity as having ANY PHYSICAL PROOF nor ANY PHYSICAL VALUE.
But relativists go around for a century, claiming the truthfulness, beauty
and extraordinary value of relativity in the "building of physics", even
when they change the "tune" from time to time to correct its intrinsic,
disparate conceptions of time, lengths and gravity with increasingly
CRAZY patches (like DM, DE, antigravity from DE, BH, WH, GW, etc.).
It must SUCK to be a relativist.
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/2012/oct/08/einstein-nobel-prize-relativity
EXCERPT:
The Nobel citation reads that Einstein is honoured for "services to
theoretical physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the
photoelectric effect without taking into account the value that will be
accorded your relativity and gravitation theories after these are
confirmed in the future".
To many, and to Einstein himself, this felt like a slap in the face. Hadn't
Eddington proved the theory? Yes, but the trouble was Eddington's
observations had not been perfect and he had discarded data he considered
poor from his final analysis.
....
Could it have been that the committee was leaving the door open for a second Nobel prize in the future, once relativity had been more rigorously tested? We will never know. As Einstein's fame spread, so he alienated himself from the physics community by refusing to accept quantum theory.
A Nobel prize for relativity was never awarded.
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NOTE: Not only a Nobel prize for relativity was rejected to be awarded to
Einstein (they had the next 34 years to do that, before his death in 1955),
but NO PHYSICIST in the next 100 years won one Nobel for Relativity.
stole from Lenard´s research (which got the Nobel for what he REALLY
proved). But, still, the Committee opened the door for a FUTURE 2nd. prize
IF and ONLY IF any experimental proof of relativity was achieved while
he was alive. Nothing proven in the next 34 years, until 1955.
Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
It's the most conclusive proof that NO SERIOUS SCIENTISTS considered
relativity as having ANY PHYSICAL PROOF nor ANY PHYSICAL VALUE.
But relativists go around for a century, claiming the truthfulness, beauty
and extraordinary value of relativity in the "building of physics", even
when they change the "tune" from time to time to correct its intrinsic,
disparate conceptions of time, lengths and gravity with increasingly
CRAZY patches (like DM, DE, antigravity from DE, BH, WH, GW, etc.).
It must SUCK to be a relativist.
************************************************************************
https://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/2012/oct/08/einstein-nobel-prize-relativity
EXCERPT:
The Nobel citation reads that Einstein is honoured for "services to
theoretical physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the
photoelectric effect without taking into account the value that will be
accorded your relativity and gravitation theories after these are
confirmed in the future".
To many, and to Einstein himself, this felt like a slap in the face. Hadn't
Eddington proved the theory? Yes, but the trouble was Eddington's
observations had not been perfect and he had discarded data he considered
poor from his final analysis.
....
Could it have been that the committee was leaving the door open for a second Nobel prize in the future, once relativity had been more rigorously tested? We will never know. As Einstein's fame spread, so he alienated himself from the physics community by refusing to accept quantum theory.
A Nobel prize for relativity was never awarded.
************************************************************************
NOTE: Not only a Nobel prize for relativity was rejected to be awarded to
Einstein (they had the next 34 years to do that, before his death in 1955),
but NO PHYSICIST in the next 100 years won one Nobel for Relativity.
Dono.
Jul 26, 2022, 7:44:49 PM7/26/22
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On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 3:59:38 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> A lame consolation prize was awarded to him, in 1921, for what he
> stole from Lenard´s research (which got the Nobel for what he REALLY
> proved). But, still, the Committee opened the door for a FUTURE 2nd. prize
> IF and ONLY IF any experimental proof of relativity was achieved while
> he was alive. Nothing proven in the next 34 years, until 1955.
>
> Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
>
> It's the most conclusive proof that NO SERIOUS SCIENTISTS considered
> relativity as having ANY PHYSICAL PROOF nor ANY PHYSICAL VALUE.
>
From the same article:
> A lame consolation prize was awarded to him, in 1921, for what he
> stole from Lenard´s research (which got the Nobel for what he REALLY
> proved). But, still, the Committee opened the door for a FUTURE 2nd. prize
> IF and ONLY IF any experimental proof of relativity was achieved while
> he was alive. Nothing proven in the next 34 years, until 1955.
>
> Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
>
> It's the most conclusive proof that NO SERIOUS SCIENTISTS considered
> relativity as having ANY PHYSICAL PROOF nor ANY PHYSICAL VALUE.
>
"Why? Because now dark forces were at work.
Antisemitism was on the rise in Germany; Jews were being scapegoated for the country's defeat in the war. As both Jew and pacifist, Einstein was an obvious target. The complexity of relativity did not help either. Opponents such as Ernst Gehrcke and Philipp Lenard found it easy to cast doubt upon its labyrinthine mathematics."
Richard Hertz
Jul 26, 2022, 8:12:11 PM7/26/22
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Don't fool yourself. Relativity doesn't deserve even a Pulitzer.
It poses NO VALUE for science. To pseudo-science, metaphysics, philosophy, etc., maybe.
He should have been awarded with a Nobel in Literature, for his work on FICTION novels.
Dono.
Jul 26, 2022, 8:31:13 PM7/26/22
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On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 5:12:11 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 8:44:49 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 3:59:38 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > A lame consolation prize was awarded to him, in 1921, for what he
> > > stole from Lenard´s research (which got the Nobel for what he REALLY
> > > proved). But, still, the Committee opened the door for a FUTURE 2nd. prize
> > > IF and ONLY IF any experimental proof of relativity was achieved while
> > > he was alive. Nothing proven in the next 34 years, until 1955.
> > >
> > > Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
> > >
> > > It's the most conclusive proof that NO SERIOUS SCIENTISTS considered
> > > relativity as having ANY PHYSICAL PROOF nor ANY PHYSICAL VALUE.
> > >
> > From the same article:
> >
> > "Why? Because now dark forces were at work.
> >
> > Antisemitism was on the rise in Germany; Jews were being scapegoated for the country's defeat in the war. As both Jew and pacifist, Einstein was an obvious target. The complexity of relativity did not help either. Opponents such as Ernst Gehrcke and Philipp Lenard found it easy to cast doubt upon its labyrinthine mathematics."
> Even when Einstein fled to US and lived there for the next 23 years, 10 years after WWII ended and US controlled Europe?
>
Even so, kapo
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 8:44:49 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 3:59:38 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > A lame consolation prize was awarded to him, in 1921, for what he
> > > stole from Lenard´s research (which got the Nobel for what he REALLY
> > > proved). But, still, the Committee opened the door for a FUTURE 2nd. prize
> > > IF and ONLY IF any experimental proof of relativity was achieved while
> > > he was alive. Nothing proven in the next 34 years, until 1955.
> > >
> > > Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
> > >
> > > It's the most conclusive proof that NO SERIOUS SCIENTISTS considered
> > > relativity as having ANY PHYSICAL PROOF nor ANY PHYSICAL VALUE.
> > >
> > From the same article:
> >
> > "Why? Because now dark forces were at work.
> >
> > Antisemitism was on the rise in Germany; Jews were being scapegoated for the country's defeat in the war. As both Jew and pacifist, Einstein was an obvious target. The complexity of relativity did not help either. Opponents such as Ernst Gehrcke and Philipp Lenard found it easy to cast doubt upon its labyrinthine mathematics."
> Even when Einstein fled to US and lived there for the next 23 years, 10 years after WWII ended and US controlled Europe?
>
The committee passed Lise Meitner in favor of the nazi Otto Hahn. Keep eating.
Paul Alsing
Jul 26, 2022, 8:41:45 PM7/26/22
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On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 5:12:11 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:hil
https://www.livescience.com/58245-theory-of-relativity-in-real-life.html
... you remain ignorant of the subject matter and are unable to present a cognizant rebuttal yet again...
>
> Don't fool yourself. Relativity doesn't deserve even a Pulitzer.
> It poses NO VALUE for science. To pseudo-science, metaphysics, philosophy, etc., maybe.
We have been down this road before, and you ignored the evidence presented then. Here...
> Don't fool yourself. Relativity doesn't deserve even a Pulitzer.
> It poses NO VALUE for science. To pseudo-science, metaphysics, philosophy, etc., maybe.
https://www.livescience.com/58245-theory-of-relativity-in-real-life.html
... you remain ignorant of the subject matter and are unable to present a cognizant rebuttal yet again...
Dono.
Jul 26, 2022, 9:05:31 PM7/26/22
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On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 3:59:38 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
You are lying (again) kapo:
> Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
A. Michelson
A. Compton
J.D.Cockroft
E.Walton
J.Bardeen
W.Shockley
W.Brattain
P.Cherenkov
I.Frank
I.Tamm
R.Feynman
J.Schwinger
S.Tomonaga
M. Gell-Mann
L.Esaki
I.Glaever
B.Josephson
A. Penzias
R.Wilson
R.Hulse
J.Taylor
R.Davis
R.Giacconi
J.Hall
B.Schmidt
A.Riess
S.Perlmutter
P.Higgs
T.Kajita
A.McDonald
R.Weiss
K.Thorne
B.Barish
J.Peebles
R.Penrose
R.Genzel
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JanPB
Jul 27, 2022, 4:22:43 AM7/27/22
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On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 3:59:38 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
"anti-relativity" and "anti-Einstein" idiocy?
--
Jan
Dono.
Jul 27, 2022, 9:33:57 AM7/27/22
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On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 9:27:55 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 10:05:31 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
>
> <snip>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 10:05:31 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > > Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
> > You are lying (again) kapo:
> snip rabid frothing at the mouth by the Richard Hertz odious kapo<
> > You are lying (again) kapo:
Volney
Jul 27, 2022, 12:01:48 PM7/27/22
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On 7/27/2022 12:27 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 10:05:31 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 10:05:31 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>> Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
>> You are lying (again) kapo:
>
> THIS LIST IS A PROOF THAT YOU'RE A DELUSIONAL RETARDED RELATIVIST, WILLING TO DECEIVE, LIE AND STEAL DUE
>> You are lying (again) kapo:
>
> CREDITS TO PHYSICISTS AND THEIR WORK, NOT EVEN FUCKING REMOTELY RELATED TO RELATIVITY!
Wow, what a meltdown! You are sure upset that relativity is involved in
so many Nobel prizes! But you need to get your OCD-based hatred for
Einstein/relativity treated, before you pop a blood vessel. You almost
did that right here!
>
> FUCKING CRETIN GYPSY!
Is that what you are?
> Degenerate, crippled space alien lifeform (AKA Giant Lizard): You forgot to credit the CRETIN for:
The CRETIN? I don't think you're responsible for any of those!
>
> - Smartphones
> - WWW, TCP/IP AND ETHERNET
> - FLAT SCREENS (PLASMA, LCD, LED, OLED,...)
> - GPS
> - ATOMIC CLOCKS (ALL OF THEM)
> - F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22, F-35, ....
> - THE FLAVORED CONDOM
> - ISS
> - LGTBQ+ MOVEMENT (HE PUBLICLY ENDORSED IT, IN HIS EPOCH, AS A FUCKING DEGENERATE IS EXPECTED TO DO)
> - HiFi AUDIO
> - THE ATOMIC BOMB, ETC.
>
> I'm sick even of writing this, to reply to the IMBECILE and disgusting Dono.
>
Take your blood pressure medicine ASAP.
Jan:
> Why do you waste your life away on ludicrous fantasies like all that
> "anti-relativity" and "anti-Einstein" idiocy?
>
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Dono.
Jul 27, 2022, 1:16:07 PM7/27/22
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On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 10:02:09 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 10:05:31 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
>
> <snip>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 10:05:31 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
> > You are lying (again) kapo:
>
>snip repeated rabid rant from odious kapo, Richard Hertz<
>
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The Starmaker
Jul 27, 2022, 2:04:53 PM7/27/22
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"If I had foreseen Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I would have torn up my
formula in 1905." - Albert Einstein
Now Why would he want or anyone would give him a Nobel Prize for Murder?
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.
Dono.
Jul 27, 2022, 2:24:20 PM7/27/22
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On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
Dono.
Jul 27, 2022, 2:25:51 PM7/27/22
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On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 2:16:07 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 2:16:07 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
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The Starmaker
Jul 27, 2022, 3:40:19 PM7/27/22
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Which post was deleted? was it this one?? Because this one wasn't
deleted...
Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 2:16:07 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
> Why do you delete my posts, fucking cretin?
>
> This is a serious offense, and worth reporting to Google.
>
> Asshole.
deleted...
Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 2:16:07 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
>
> This is a serious offense, and worth reporting to Google.
>
> Asshole.
The Starmaker
Jul 27, 2022, 3:40:43 PM7/27/22
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Which post was deleted? was it this one?? Because this one wasn't
deleted...
Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 10:05:31 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
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Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 10:05:31 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > > Yet more, NOTHING was awarded regarding RELATIVITY until today.
> > You are lying (again) kapo:
>
> > You are lying (again) kapo:
>
> THIS LIST IS A PROOF THAT YOU'RE A DELUSIONAL RETARDED RELATIVIST, WILLING TO DECEIVE, LIE AND STEAL DUE
> CREDITS TO PHYSICISTS AND THEIR WORK, NOT EVEN FUCKING REMOTELY RELATED TO RELATIVITY!
>
> FUCKING CRETIN GYPSY!
> CREDITS TO PHYSICISTS AND THEIR WORK, NOT EVEN FUCKING REMOTELY RELATED TO RELATIVITY!
>
>
> > A. Michelson - USELESS MILITARY ENGINEER, WHO MEASURED SHIT
> > A. Compton - NEVER PROVEN COLLISIONS BETWEEN X-RAYS AND ELECTRONS
> > J.D.Cockroft - NUCLEAR PHYSICS
> > E.Walton - NUCLEAR PHYSICS
> > J.Bardeen - JUNCTURE TRANSISTOR AND SUPERCONDUCTIVITY (TWO NOBEL)
> > W.Shockley - JUNCTURE TRANSISTOR (COMPENSATION FOR HIS FAMOUS BIPOLAR TRANSISTOR, WHICH CREATED THIS ERA)
> > W.Brattain - JUNCTURE TRANSISTOR
> > P.Cherenkov - FOR DISCOVERY OF "HIS" RADIATION WHEN EM WAVES CHANGE MEDIUM WITH PHASE VELOCITY > c
> > I.Frank - FOR WORKING WITH Cherenkov
> > I.Tamm - FOR WORKING WITH Cherenkov
> > R.Feynman - FOR STUPID CALCULATIONS USING MORE IDIOTIC GRAPHS AND HIS FUCKING VIRTUAL PHOTONS IN QED.
> > J.Schwinger - FOR STUPID CALCULATIONS USING MORE IDIOTIC GRAPHS AND HIS FUCKING VIRTUAL PHOTONS IN QED.
> > S.Tomonaga - FOR STUPID CALCULATIONS USING MORE IDIOTIC GRAPHS AND HIS FUCKING VIRTUAL PHOTONS IN QED.
> > M. Gell-Mann - LGTBQ+ QUARKS
> > L.Esaki - TUNNELING PHENOMENA IN SEMICONDUCTORS
> > I.Glaever - SHARED WITH ESAKI, FOR TUNNELING PHENOMENA IN SUPERCONDUCTORS
> > B.Josephson - PROPERTIES OF SUPERCURRENT OF 5,000 AMPERES IN SUPERCONDUCTORS.
> > A. Penzias - CBR AT 4 GHZ, AFTER CLEANING PIDGEON'S CRAP IN AN OBSOLETE HORN ANTENNA.
> > R.Wilson - CBR AT 4 GHZ, AFTER CLEANING PIDGEON'S CRAP IN AN OBSOLETE HORN ANTENNA.
> > R.Hulse - CO-DISCOVERY OF A NEW TYPE OF PULSAR
> > J.Taylor - CO-DISCOVERY OF A NEW TYPE OF PULSAR
> > R.Davis - CO-DISCOVERY OF COSMIC NEUTRINOS (WITH Masatoshi Koshiba. Do you hate orientals, fucking racist gypsy?).
> > R.Giacconi - DISCOVERY OF COSMIC X-RAY SOURCES.
> > J.Hall - LASER-BASED PRECISION SPECTROCOSPY (Shared with the GERMAN Theodor W. Hänsch, gypsy hater).
> > B.Schmidt - CO-DISCOVERY OF THE STUPID CONCEPT OF AN ACCELERATED EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE, AFTER THE BB.
> > A.Riess - CO-DISCOVERY OF THE STUPID CONCEPT OF AN ACCELERATED EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE, AFTER THE BB.
> > S.Perlmutter - CO-DISCOVERY OF THE STUPID CONCEPT OF AN ACCELERATED EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE, AFTER THE BB.
> > P.Higgs - 13 BILLION USD SPENT FOR A FAILED PARTICLE THAT NEVER MET THE PROPOSAL OF GIVING MASS
> > T.Kajita - STUPID DISCOVERY THAT IF NEUTRINOS OSCILLATE, THEN THEY HAVE MASS. FUCKING RETARDED, LIKE YOU.
> > A.McDonald - STUPID DISCOVERY THAT IF NEUTRINOS OSCILLATE, THEN THEY HAVE MASS. FUCKING RETARDED, LIKE YOU.
> > R.Weiss - HELPED TO CONCEIVE LIGO, ANOTHER 8 BILLION USD FAIL!
> > K.Thorne HELPED TO CONCEIVE LIGO, ANOTHER 8 BILLION USD FAIL!
> > B.Barish HELPED TO CONCEIVE LIGO, ANOTHER 8 BILLION USD FAIL!
> > J.Peebles - CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FAKE BBT
> > R.Penrose - CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FAKE BBT AND BHT.
> > R.Genzel - DISCOVERY OF A FUCKING ULTRA SUPER MASSIVE BH IN THE CENTER OF THE MILKY WAY. PHOTOS NOT AVAILABLE.
>
> Degenerate, crippled space alien lifeform (AKA Giant Lizard): You forgot to credit the CRETIN for:
>
> Degenerate, crippled space alien lifeform (AKA Giant Lizard): You forgot to credit the CRETIN for:
>
> - Smartphones
> - WWW, TCP/IP AND ETHERNET
> - FLAT SCREENS (PLASMA, LCD, LED, OLED,...)
> - GPS
> - ATOMIC CLOCKS (ALL OF THEM)
> - F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22, F-35, ....
> - THE FLAVORED CONDOM
> - ISS
> - LGTBQ+ MOVEMENT (HE PUBLICLY ENDORSED IT, IN HIS EPOCH, AS A FUCKING DEGENERATE IS EXPECTED TO DO)
> - HiFi AUDIO
> - THE ATOMIC BOMB, ETC.
>
> I'm sick even of writing this, to reply to the IMBECILE and disgusting Dono.
> - WWW, TCP/IP AND ETHERNET
> - FLAT SCREENS (PLASMA, LCD, LED, OLED,...)
> - GPS
> - ATOMIC CLOCKS (ALL OF THEM)
> - F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22, F-35, ....
> - THE FLAVORED CONDOM
> - ISS
> - LGTBQ+ MOVEMENT (HE PUBLICLY ENDORSED IT, IN HIS EPOCH, AS A FUCKING DEGENERATE IS EXPECTED TO DO)
> - HiFi AUDIO
> - THE ATOMIC BOMB, ETC.
>
> I'm sick even of writing this, to reply to the IMBECILE and disgusting Dono.
The Starmaker
Jul 27, 2022, 3:41:02 PM7/27/22
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Richard Hertz
Jul 27, 2022, 7:23:32 PM7/27/22
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Here is an example of the two feet-lickers that won a Nobel in physics by stating that their
findings support GR.
Pay attention to the extraordinary number of digital digits, some having up to 14, for a thing that's 20,870 light years far away.
Now it has the name "Hulse–Taylor binary" is a binary star system composed of a neutron star and a pulsar which orbit around
their common center of mass. It is the first binary pulsar ever discovered, in 1974.
Read how the discovery was PROMPTLY RELATED to General Relativity by the "GR Industry".
And, as this example, there are plenty of others in the last 50 years.
Source: The Confrontation between General Relativity and Experiment
Clifford M. Will
*************************************************
6 Stellar System Tests of Gravitational Theory
6.1 The binary pulsar and general relativity
The 1974 discovery of the binary pulsar B1913+16 by Joseph Taylor and Russell Hulse during a
routine search for new pulsars provided the first possibility of probing new aspects of gravitational
theory: the effects of strong relativistic internal gravitational fields on orbital dynamics, and the
effects of gravitational radiation reaction.
For reviews of the discovery, see the published Nobel Prize lectures by Hulse and Taylor [195, 385].
For reviews of the current status of testing general relativity with pulsars, including binary and millisecond
pulsars, see [261, 374, 412]; specific details on every pulsar discovered to date, along with orbit elements
of pulsars in binary systems, can be found at the Australia Telescope National Facility (ATNF) online pulsar
catalogue [28]. Table 7 lists the current values of the key orbital and relativistic parameters for B1913+16,
from analysis of data through 2006 [409].
(i) Astrometric and spin parameters:
Right Ascension 𝛼 19h15m27.s99928(9)
Declination 𝛿 16∘06′27.′′3871(13)
Pulsar period 𝑃p (ms) 59.0299983444181(5)
Derivative of period ˙𝑃p 8.62713(8) × 10E−18
(ii) “Keplerian” parameters:
Projected semimajor axis 𝑎p sin 𝑖 (s) 2.341782(3)
Eccentricity 𝑒 0.6171334(5)
Orbital period 𝑃b (day) 0.322997448911(4)
Longitude of periastron 𝜔0 (∘) 292.54472(6)
Julian date of periastron 𝑇0 (MJD) 52144.90097841(4)
(iii) “Post-Keplerian” parameters:
Mean rate of periastron advance ⟨𝜔˙ ⟩ (∘/yr) 4.226598(5)
Redshift/time dilation 𝛾′ (ms) 4.2992(8)
Orbital period derivative ˙𝑃b (10E−12) −2.423(1)
The system consists of a pulsar of nominal period 59 ms in a close binary orbit with an unseen
companion. The orbital period is about 7.75 hours, and the eccentricity is 0.617. From detailed
analyses of the arrival times of pulses (which amounts to an integrated version of the Doppler-shift
methods used in spectroscopic binary systems), extremely accurate orbital and physical parameters
for the system have been obtained (see Table 7). Because the orbit is so close (≈ 1𝑅⊙) and because
there is no evidence of an eclipse of the pulsar signal or of mass transfer from the companion, it
is generally agreed that the companion is compact. Evolutionary arguments suggest that it is
most likely a dead pulsar, while B1913+16 is a “recycled” pulsar.
Thus the orbital motion is very clean, free from tidal or other complicating effects. Furthermore, the data acquisition is
“clean” in the sense that by exploiting the intrinsic stability of the pulsar clock combined with the
ability to maintain and transfer atomic time accurately using GPS, the observers can keep track of
pulse time-of-arrival with an accuracy of 13 𝜇s, despite extended gaps between observing sessions
(including a several-year gap in the middle 1990s for an upgrade of the Arecibo radio telescope).
DISCLAIMER:
The pulsar has experienced only one small “glitch” in its pulse period, in May 2003.
Three factors made this system an arena where relativistic celestial mechanics must be used:
the relatively large size of relativistic effects [𝑣orbit ≈ (𝑚/𝑟)1/2 ≈ 10E−3], a factor of 10 larger than
the corresponding values for solar-system orbits; the short orbital period, allowing secular effects
to build up rapidly; and the cleanliness of the system, allowing accurate determinations of small effects.
BULLSHIT:
Because the orbital separation is large compared to the neutron stars’ compact size, tidal
effects can be ignored. Just as Newtonian gravity is used as a tool for measuring astrophysical
parameters of ordinary binary systems, so GR is used as a tool for measuring astrophysical
parameters in the binary pulsar.
findings support GR.
Pay attention to the extraordinary number of digital digits, some having up to 14, for a thing that's 20,870 light years far away.
Now it has the name "Hulse–Taylor binary" is a binary star system composed of a neutron star and a pulsar which orbit around
their common center of mass. It is the first binary pulsar ever discovered, in 1974.
Read how the discovery was PROMPTLY RELATED to General Relativity by the "GR Industry".
And, as this example, there are plenty of others in the last 50 years.
Source: The Confrontation between General Relativity and Experiment
Clifford M. Will
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6 Stellar System Tests of Gravitational Theory
6.1 The binary pulsar and general relativity
The 1974 discovery of the binary pulsar B1913+16 by Joseph Taylor and Russell Hulse during a
routine search for new pulsars provided the first possibility of probing new aspects of gravitational
theory: the effects of strong relativistic internal gravitational fields on orbital dynamics, and the
effects of gravitational radiation reaction.
For reviews of the discovery, see the published Nobel Prize lectures by Hulse and Taylor [195, 385].
For reviews of the current status of testing general relativity with pulsars, including binary and millisecond
pulsars, see [261, 374, 412]; specific details on every pulsar discovered to date, along with orbit elements
of pulsars in binary systems, can be found at the Australia Telescope National Facility (ATNF) online pulsar
catalogue [28]. Table 7 lists the current values of the key orbital and relativistic parameters for B1913+16,
from analysis of data through 2006 [409].
(i) Astrometric and spin parameters:
Right Ascension 𝛼 19h15m27.s99928(9)
Declination 𝛿 16∘06′27.′′3871(13)
Pulsar period 𝑃p (ms) 59.0299983444181(5)
Derivative of period ˙𝑃p 8.62713(8) × 10E−18
(ii) “Keplerian” parameters:
Projected semimajor axis 𝑎p sin 𝑖 (s) 2.341782(3)
Eccentricity 𝑒 0.6171334(5)
Orbital period 𝑃b (day) 0.322997448911(4)
Longitude of periastron 𝜔0 (∘) 292.54472(6)
Julian date of periastron 𝑇0 (MJD) 52144.90097841(4)
(iii) “Post-Keplerian” parameters:
Mean rate of periastron advance ⟨𝜔˙ ⟩ (∘/yr) 4.226598(5)
Redshift/time dilation 𝛾′ (ms) 4.2992(8)
Orbital period derivative ˙𝑃b (10E−12) −2.423(1)
The system consists of a pulsar of nominal period 59 ms in a close binary orbit with an unseen
companion. The orbital period is about 7.75 hours, and the eccentricity is 0.617. From detailed
analyses of the arrival times of pulses (which amounts to an integrated version of the Doppler-shift
methods used in spectroscopic binary systems), extremely accurate orbital and physical parameters
for the system have been obtained (see Table 7). Because the orbit is so close (≈ 1𝑅⊙) and because
there is no evidence of an eclipse of the pulsar signal or of mass transfer from the companion, it
is generally agreed that the companion is compact. Evolutionary arguments suggest that it is
most likely a dead pulsar, while B1913+16 is a “recycled” pulsar.
Thus the orbital motion is very clean, free from tidal or other complicating effects. Furthermore, the data acquisition is
“clean” in the sense that by exploiting the intrinsic stability of the pulsar clock combined with the
ability to maintain and transfer atomic time accurately using GPS, the observers can keep track of
pulse time-of-arrival with an accuracy of 13 𝜇s, despite extended gaps between observing sessions
(including a several-year gap in the middle 1990s for an upgrade of the Arecibo radio telescope).
DISCLAIMER:
The pulsar has experienced only one small “glitch” in its pulse period, in May 2003.
Three factors made this system an arena where relativistic celestial mechanics must be used:
the relatively large size of relativistic effects [𝑣orbit ≈ (𝑚/𝑟)1/2 ≈ 10E−3], a factor of 10 larger than
the corresponding values for solar-system orbits; the short orbital period, allowing secular effects
to build up rapidly; and the cleanliness of the system, allowing accurate determinations of small effects.
BULLSHIT:
Because the orbital separation is large compared to the neutron stars’ compact size, tidal
effects can be ignored. Just as Newtonian gravity is used as a tool for measuring astrophysical
parameters of ordinary binary systems, so GR is used as a tool for measuring astrophysical
parameters in the binary pulsar.
Dono.
Jul 27, 2022, 10:28:03 PM7/27/22
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On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:23:32 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Here is an example of my utter imbecility
Yep
> Here is an example of my utter imbecility
Yep
Richard Hertz
Jul 28, 2022, 12:04:15 AM7/28/22
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Fucking cretin Dono (AKA Adrian Sfarti):
As in your life, where everything is a LIE, the history behind Taylor-Hulse binary pulsar is A FUCKING LIE, created
by relativists. For sustaining that lie, they won the 1993 Nobel Prize in Physics.
They just DISCOVERED the pulsar in the summer of 1974. Hulse was a graduate student of Taylor and NONE OF THEM
gave any credit to relativity for the behavior of the neutron star and his companion.
After the discovery, other CRETIN RELATIVISTS started to assign to GR SOME OF THE ASPECTS of the weird behavior, NOT THEM.
As with Penzias and Wilson in 1964, they ONLY FOUND some weird aspects, which OTHERS attributed to a particular version of GR.
https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.2809120
This is the lecture that Hulse gave at Nobel reception. As you can read, CRETIN DONO, he wasn't interested in relativity at all. Even more,
he considered that Astronomy WAS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORTS, so he switched to PLASMA PHYSICS. Read it, asshole:
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https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1993/hulse/biographical/
EXCERPT:
After completing my Ph.D. in 1975, I had a post-doctoral appointment at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Charlottesville, Virginia from 1975 to 1977. While I still enjoyed doing pulsar radio astronomy, from the moment I arrived at NRAO I was increasingly preoccupied with the lack of long-term career prospects in astronomy. While I had some confidence that I could find another position of some sort after NRAO, it was not at all clear to me when, where, and how I would be able to settle down with some reasonable expectation of stability in my career. I certainly knew of astronomers who had been obliged to roam from place to place for many years and the potential for such repeated major dislocations in my personal life was more than I could quite tolerate. In particular, I had the classic problem of how a two-career couple could stay in reasonable geographical proximity, since my friend, Jeanne Kuhlman, was then doing her graduate work at the University of Pennsylvania. I therefore decided to try falling back on my broader interests and my physics Ph.D., exercising the option which I had left myself when I started at UMass.
While even with this broader view not many good career opportunities seemed available, I did discover from an advertisement in Physics Today that the Princeton University Plasma Physics Laboratory (PPPL) was hiring. Not only did controlled fusion seem an interesting and diverse field, but the lab was located in Princeton, not too far from Jeanne in Philadelphia.
After interviewing at PPPL, I was offered a position with the plasma modeling group, based on my physics and computer background.
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SEE, IGNORANT ASSHOLE?
He wasn't interested in relativity, nor he and his tutor did ANY RELATIVISTIC APPROACH to the new kind of pulsar they discovered.
They BOTH were working as OBSERVATIONAL ASTRONOMERS, career that Hulse DROPPED at the first chance.
It was the work of relativists that, during years after such event in 1974, started to apply GR concepts MIXED with Newton-Kepler.
Fucking asshole, now converted into a HACKER. Deleting posts from Starmaker and me, SOB!
As in your life, where everything is a LIE, the history behind Taylor-Hulse binary pulsar is A FUCKING LIE, created
by relativists. For sustaining that lie, they won the 1993 Nobel Prize in Physics.
They just DISCOVERED the pulsar in the summer of 1974. Hulse was a graduate student of Taylor and NONE OF THEM
gave any credit to relativity for the behavior of the neutron star and his companion.
After the discovery, other CRETIN RELATIVISTS started to assign to GR SOME OF THE ASPECTS of the weird behavior, NOT THEM.
As with Penzias and Wilson in 1964, they ONLY FOUND some weird aspects, which OTHERS attributed to a particular version of GR.
https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.2809120
This is the lecture that Hulse gave at Nobel reception. As you can read, CRETIN DONO, he wasn't interested in relativity at all. Even more,
he considered that Astronomy WAS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORTS, so he switched to PLASMA PHYSICS. Read it, asshole:
**********************************
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1993/hulse/biographical/
EXCERPT:
After completing my Ph.D. in 1975, I had a post-doctoral appointment at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Charlottesville, Virginia from 1975 to 1977. While I still enjoyed doing pulsar radio astronomy, from the moment I arrived at NRAO I was increasingly preoccupied with the lack of long-term career prospects in astronomy. While I had some confidence that I could find another position of some sort after NRAO, it was not at all clear to me when, where, and how I would be able to settle down with some reasonable expectation of stability in my career. I certainly knew of astronomers who had been obliged to roam from place to place for many years and the potential for such repeated major dislocations in my personal life was more than I could quite tolerate. In particular, I had the classic problem of how a two-career couple could stay in reasonable geographical proximity, since my friend, Jeanne Kuhlman, was then doing her graduate work at the University of Pennsylvania. I therefore decided to try falling back on my broader interests and my physics Ph.D., exercising the option which I had left myself when I started at UMass.
While even with this broader view not many good career opportunities seemed available, I did discover from an advertisement in Physics Today that the Princeton University Plasma Physics Laboratory (PPPL) was hiring. Not only did controlled fusion seem an interesting and diverse field, but the lab was located in Princeton, not too far from Jeanne in Philadelphia.
After interviewing at PPPL, I was offered a position with the plasma modeling group, based on my physics and computer background.
**********************************
SEE, IGNORANT ASSHOLE?
He wasn't interested in relativity, nor he and his tutor did ANY RELATIVISTIC APPROACH to the new kind of pulsar they discovered.
They BOTH were working as OBSERVATIONAL ASTRONOMERS, career that Hulse DROPPED at the first chance.
It was the work of relativists that, during years after such event in 1974, started to apply GR concepts MIXED with Newton-Kepler.
Fucking asshole, now converted into a HACKER. Deleting posts from Starmaker and me, SOB!
Dono.
Jul 28, 2022, 12:34:48 AM7/28/22
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On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 9:04:15 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> now converted into a HACKER. Deleting posts from Starmaker and me
Dick,
> now converted into a HACKER. Deleting posts from Starmaker and me
It is good to see that your dementia is progressing rapidly and consistently.
Paul B. Andersen
Jul 28, 2022, 6:40:10 AM7/28/22
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Den 28.07.2022 06:04, skrev Richard Hertz:
> Fucking cretin Dono (AKA Adrian Sfarti):
>
> As in your life, where everything is a LIE, the history behind Taylor-Hulse binary pulsar is A FUCKING LIE, created
> by relativists. For sustaining that lie, they won the 1993 Nobel Prize in Physics.
>
> They just DISCOVERED the pulsar in the summer of 1974. Hulse was a graduate student of Taylor and NONE OF THEM
> gave any credit to relativity for the behavior of the neutron star and his companion.
They got the 1993 Nobel Price in physics for the discovery
of a binary pulsar they made in 1974.
They got the Nobel Price 19 years after the discovery
because it at that time was clear how important the discovery
had been.
>
> After the discovery, other CRETIN RELATIVISTS started to assign to GR SOME OF THE ASPECTS of the weird behavior, NOT THEM.
"THE ASPECTS of the weird behaviour" could not be explained
by Newtonian gravitation, but GR explained it perfectly.
According to Richard Hertz's reasoning, the analysis
of the Hulse-Taylor Binary Pulsar must be "A FUCKING LIE"
because it wasn't made by Hulse and Taylor. :-D
>
> As with Penzias and Wilson in 1964, they ONLY FOUND some weird aspects, which OTHERS attributed to a particular version of GR.
The "weird aspect" they found was noise which couldn't
be assigned to the antenna or maser amplifier, so it appeared
to be noise from the empty space itself.
Penzias and Wilson only reported their measurements
of the microwave background radiation, and gave no
explanation for it.
But now we all know the explanation, of course.
According to Richard Hertz's reasoning, the explanation
of the microwave background radiation must be "A FUCKING LIE"
because it wasn't made by Penzias and Wilson. :-D
I will not try to explain the weird behaviour of Richard Hertz's mind.
Dono has mentioned a few possible explanations, though.
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/
Richard Hertz
Jul 28, 2022, 11:18:35 AM7/28/22
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Hordes of mentally impaired relativists are digging into any finding at observational astronomy, in the last 60 years,
to INSERT their sick disease on any of them.
Original GR equations, once conceived for a local behavior of the "infinite, steady Milky Way universe" into evolving concepts
of FINITE, ever expanding after BB universe, filled with 10E+11 galaxies (10E+22 stars), which included black holes and matter
and energy of several colors that don't follow any known physics, BUT are ADAPTED to include any shit that's discovered into
an endless tirade of claims that GR is always right, Einstein is always right even being wrong and stupid claims like that.
And THAT is because any other explanation is not allowed in cosmology or far-field astronomy, because dissenters are promptly
kicked off from positions at academy, observatories and laboratories.
It's like a "slow motion" coup d'etat by the relativistic establishment, specially after WWII, because Einstein's figure as the supreme
genius and thinker of the history of mankind HAS TO BE ESTABLISHED AND PRESERVED at any cost.
The worship of Einstein's figure and "theories" have to be DOMINANT, as a sample of supremacy of jewish intellect.
And this is a matter of ethnic supremacy, above all. In science, economy, politics, social sciences, etc.
You can observe, around you, how the SUPPRESSION of dissident voices at ANY of those fields has only cornered the world into
a disgraceful path toward degeneracy of thoughts, moral values, family values, political values, religious values and else.
You are living, right now, how the fascist-communist culture at your country, Europe and anglosaxon world is causing an increasing
disruption of the fragile equilibrium upon which modern world is built.
If you impose YOUR VALUES and THOUGHTS by force, it backfire SOONER OR LATER.
And that's why SCIENCE doesn't make sense anymore, because it has NO MORAL COMPASS or political guidance that impose limits
to degeneracy. On the contrary, alleged "modern science" is the one that is defining limits, and has NONE.
How are you doing with your attoseconds clock, 284 genders, nano-bio-science, global warming, WWIII on the making, pandemics,
500,000 $ BsC degrees, globalization, consumerism, etc??
It all have the same roots, which can be traced back to 100 years ago, when relativism of WHATEVER took place. And physics is part
of this state of world affairs, along with other STEM fields.
What did you gain as an individual, a member of a family, a scientist?
Lies, deception, dominance by elites are driving the world to a bitter end. And, for that to happen, the few bright minds that still exist
have to be aligned on a SINGLE LINE OF THOUGHTS. The 99.999% of humans that remain are just USELESS EATERS.
At which side do you think that you are?
Dono.
Jul 28, 2022, 11:21:28 AM7/28/22
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On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 8:18:35 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Hordes of mentally impaired cranks like Dick Hertz, are frothing at the mouth and having conniptions
Yep
> Hordes of mentally impaired cranks like Dick Hertz, are frothing at the mouth and having conniptions
Yep
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