When Superman Flies Faster Than Light ...
I Was A Teenage Queerwolf
.-- .- -... -. .. --. @.-----.dot.-- H. Wabnig
<bright...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Does this violate the theory of relativity?
No, it is part of the PENTCHO-hanson-Androcles relativity subset.
w.
Super-Menace
Was A Teenage Queerwolf <bright...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Does this violate the theory of relativity?
>
"That nothing can travel faster than light is a theory. That Superman
can fly faster than light is a fact."
-- Mort Weisinger, incorrectly citing Isaac Asimov
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
> Does this violate the theory of relativity?
No more than George of the Jungle smacking into a tree so hard it
leaves an imprint in the tree but George walks away without so much
as a scratch.
--
Jim Pennino
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No. Jimmy Olson wrote an article in the "Metropolis Daily Planet"
about how Androcles had "proven" that the speed of light according to
SR is 0/0. Jimmy Olson "proved" that if Superman flew from the Daily
Planet building to the Empire State Building to rescue Lois Lane as
fast as he could, then flew back as fast as he could, the distance
traveled would be zero, since his two trips had to be treated as
vectors, and that the vector sum was certainly zero.
Of course, neither Jimmy Olson nore Androclers realized that
Superman's "disguise" was a pair of spectacles....
Pmb
"I Was A Teenage Queerwolf" <bright...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Does this violate the theory of relativity?
>
Yes.
Pete
hanson
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> I Was A Teenage Queerwolf <bright...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>Does this violate the theory of relativity?
>
> No, it is part of the PENTCHO-hanson-Androcles relativity subset.
> w.
>
ahahaha... Good, for a change you are not wabniggering.
So, what's in it for you, Helmutt? --- Betch'a don't know.
ahahaha... ahahanson
Saint HorseFly
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AnMoon
If we assume as a fact that the fast we can go is the speed of light,
then yes, Superman violate the theory of relativity. There are some
theories that if we passed the speed of light, you pass (=transported)
to another dimension or another universe, because some people believe
that our universe is not the only one.
--
Rita
Kenneth M. Lin
"I Was A Teenage Queerwolf" <bright...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
David Johnston
wrote:
And you can tell if Superman has done that by looking to see if there
are inconsistencies between facts established in the past and what
seems to be happening now...
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hi, hanson.
I have a proposal, let me just figure it out,
the special Androcles-hanson-PENTCHO test!
(In alphabetical order)
One could empirically test if relativity is valid with a new kind of
test nobody has thought about before. Thing goes as follows:
Let the Space Shuttle ride towards a GPS satellite and capture it.
Bring it down back to Earth and then quickly measure
the data clock rate. You know, this is the alleged application
of Einsteinism which you and Androcles and Valev fiercely deny.
Would you accept practical empirical non-theoretical research?
What is the GPS carrier modulation signal frequency?
[ ] 1.023000000000 MHz (theor. unaffected)
[ ] 1.022999999543 MHz (rel. corrected)
That question is now due to be answered by the NASA.
At least they could report a new success and a real
scientific progress as a welcome alternative to the
rather boring do-nothing expeditions they undertake
currently with your tax money, hanson.
Have fun,
w.
Len-L
<bright...@yahoo.co.uk> opined:
>Does this violate the theory of relativity?
Yes, which makes him an illegal alien.
Len-L
-the HoSt-
"Saint HorseFly" <sainth...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> The theory of relativity is wrong, and was a stupid idea to begin with.
Why? It makes pefect sense.
Host.
dlzc
Not directly. The theory of relativity (TOR) is only a mapping tool
between two relatively moving "laboratories".
What would be violated would be the "laws of physics" upon which the
TOR is based. Of course, Superman *could* tell us if there was a
Lorentz aether or not...
David A. Smith
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
However
But Superman
Would not fly
Because
First of all
He has had
To learn to walk
And then
Up to him
If he could fly
--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!
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hanson
back into compulsory wabniggering... with ferocity.... ahahahaha...
You just don't know what's going on & much less what's in it for you!
>
That "proposal" of yours was harped over, considered & answered
as "immaterial" by dozens of posters, including Einstein proponents.
Thanks for playing, Wabie, but don't portray yourself all the time
as such a "Rückständiger und geistig Armer"...
OTOH this what makes you so gorgeously funny....
Thanks for the laughs... ahahahanson
>
>
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Tom Roberts
> Does this violate the theory of relativity?
Yes, in the world we inhabit. But one must suspend disbelief when
reading such comic books, so the question does not apply in the fantasy
world of comic books (and movies).
Tom Roberts
**Bigstick**
> Does this violate the theory of relativity?
Flying faster than the speed of light is impossible.
This has been proven.
Therefore Superman is a fake.
He doesn't exist, even in the comic books.
Superman is a joke.
DC comics is a joke.
Basically DC just says Superman can do any thing:
He can fly 20 million times the speed of light.
He can lift planets and juggle them.
He can create a black hole and suck up the entire Universe.
LOL!
Whatever.
DC fan boys will now somehow defend the impossible.
Lilith
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>
>"Saint HorseFly" <sainth...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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>> The theory of relativity is wrong, and was a stupid idea to begin with.
>
>Why? It makes pefect sense.
Einstein was a genius. I've taken a look at his theories and I've
determined that he's pulled the most successful hoax of all time.
>Host.
--
Lilith
Lilith
<bright...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Does this violate the theory of relativity?
Not if you're a two dimensional being living in a three dimensional
universe.
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Lilith
Jeckyl
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TRANSLATION: I've taken a look at his theories and I couldn't understand it,
so it can't be right.
Audie Murphy's Ghost
<no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
Relativity can be demonstrated, and often has been. Calling it a
"hoax" is nonsense.
I know that there are religious fundamentalists whos dismiss relativity
because they think it runs counter to their idea of moral absolutes.
They don't know what they're talking about, either.
Josh Dull
> because they think it runs counter to their idea of moral absolutes.
> They don't know what they're talking about, either.
I never heard that before (though I guess I shouldn't be surprised). Care
to explain this, please?
Josh
AnMoon
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:12:52 -0700, AnMoon <r.monteir...@gmail.com>
I'm sorry but I'm not english..so sometimes I have difficulties to
understand. I just didn't understant what you said.
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Rita
Audie Murphy's Ghost
<cd...@bright.net> wrote:
There is a subset of fundamentalist Christians that believes the Theory
of Special Relativity implies that there are no moral absolutes in the
universe. They may believe this because of the use of the root word
"relative," and because any scientific belief headed by the word
"theory" reminds them of evolution. No, this position does not make
any sense.
The Theory of Special Relativity has nothing to do with morals, and of
course it's been pointed out by people with brains that the theory
itself contains an absolute: the speed of light, which absolutely
cannot be exceeded.
.-- .- -... -. .. --. @.-----.dot.-- H. Wabnig
>ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... As suspected Wabie, you went right
>back into compulsory wabniggering... with ferocity.... ahahahaha...
>You just don't know what's going on & much less what's in it for you!
>>
>That "proposal" of yours was harped over, considered & answered
>as "immaterial" by dozens of posters, including Einstein proponents.
>
>Thanks for playing, Wabie, but don't portray yourself all the time
>as such a "Rückständiger und geistig Armer"...
>OTOH this what makes you so gorgeously funny....
>Thanks for the laughs... ahahahanson
Oh yes, hanson, I am that much rückständig as to insist
on a direct answer from you to the question:
What is the GPS carrier modulation signal frequency?
[ ] 1.023000000000 MHz (theor. unaffected)
[ ] 1.022999999543 MHz (rel. corrected)
The answer you fear, like the cat avoids the hot pot.
You know, of course, what's the truth, but do you know,
that we know, that you know?
What I do not know is why you continue lying.
Is it the psychological shock you received once
from your colleguaes, when you made the proposal
to use relativistic calculations and they would counter your
arguments with a blatant refusal by stating they are engineers
and prefer to measure stuff insted of applying theories?
Why did you not tell them, they are wasting their time?
You obviously lost a battle.
w.
hanson
ahahaha... Wabnigger what is it that you do not understand in:
>>That "proposal" of yours was harped over, considered & answered
>>as "immaterial" by dozens of posters, including Einstein proponents.
educate yourself by reading all the past posts that discuss your odd
fixation... and you should be happier... ahahahaha... Have fun, Wabie
ahahaha... ahahanson
>
>
> "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>>ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... As suspected Wabie, you went right
>>back into compulsory wabniggering... with ferocity.... ahahahaha...
>>You just don't know what's going on & much less what's in it for you!
>>>
>>That "proposal" of yours was harped over, considered & answered
>>as "immaterial" by dozens of posters, including Einstein proponents.
>>
>>Thanks for playing, Wabie, but don't portray yourself all the time
>>as such a "Rückständiger und geistig Armer"...
>>OTOH this what makes you so gorgeously funny....
>>Thanks for the laughs... ahahahanson
>
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Androcles
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PD
Not any more than Peter Pan's flying violates Newton's laws of motion,
or Wile E. Coyote's off-cliff hang-time violates the laws of
projectile motion.
Fantasy can never violate reality.
PD
Jeckyl
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> In article <q46dnZXQo818Llzb...@bright.net>, Josh Dull
> <cd...@bright.net> wrote:
>
>> "Audie Murphy's Ghost" <takebac...@2008.com> wrote
>> > I know that there are religious fundamentalists whos dismiss relativity
>> > because they think it runs counter to their idea of moral absolutes.
>> > They don't know what they're talking about, either.
>>
>> I never heard that before (though I guess I shouldn't be surprised). Care
>> to explain this, please?
>>
>> Josh
>
>
> There is a subset of fundamentalist Christians that believes the Theory
> of Special Relativity implies that there are no moral absolutes in the
> universe.
If so, they are idiots and beyond reason.
Joe Sewell
I Was A Teenage Queerwolf <bright...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Does this violate the theory of relativity?
>
Here's a slightly different train of thought:
Yes, it violates what we currently *think* are the mathematics behind
the ToR.
On the other hand, what if Einstein wasn't wrong, just not adequately
precise?
For example, for moderate masses (even planet-sized ones) moving
significantly slower than c, Einstein's equations effectively reduce
down to Newton's, in that the time factor is insignificant.
Well, who's to say that the "real" equations of motion can be
approximated by Einstein's for the given samples we have seen? Perhaps,
for appropriately large masses travelling at near lightspeed, the
equations become slightly different. Or, to better emulate Newton's
assumptions that time is constant, what if energy is *not* conserved in
such a transaction? Or what if the speed of light really *isn't* a
constant, but a function all its own with parameters relating to some
form of matter/energy/something else that we have not yet discovered?
In other words, Superman gets around the whole thing because of his
Byrnian aura, which compensates for the mass issue, and the temporal
energy stored in him from the two Crises, which compensates for the time
issue. :)
Lilith
<takebac...@2008.com> wrote:
EeeK!!! I guess I need to back off on the pedal a bit.
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Lilith
Uncle Al
>
> Does this violate the theory of relativity?
"Az di bobe vot gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde."
Do you have three grandfathers?
--
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(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
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hanson
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[I Was A Teenage Queerwolf wrote]
Does this violate the theory of relativity?
>
"Az di bobe vot gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde."
Do you have three grandfathers?
--
Uncle Al
>
Androcles
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: "Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
Has Uncle Stooopid got a wooden dick?
He certainly produces enough rocking horse shit.
:
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Jay Rudin
> Does this violate the theory of relativity?
Well, of course. He violates basic physical laws every time he flies,
shoots heat out of his eyes, lifts mountains or sees through walls.
Superman flying *at all* without airfoils or jet exhaust violates the basic
laws of physics. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction,
It's not just a good idea -- it's the law.
Getting back to the theory of relativity: Flying faster than the speed of
light is not inherently a violation, but accelerating up to the speed of
light to get there is. As Superman speeds up, he weighs more, and it
requires more energy to speed him up. At 6/10 of the speed of light (or 0.6
c), he weighs a quarter more than usual, and it take a quarter more energy
to accelerate him.
At .866 c, he weighs twice as much, and further acceleration takes twice as
much energy.
At .995 c, he weighs over ten times as much, and further acceleration takes
ten times as much energy.
At .99995 c, he weighs over one hundred times as much, and further
acceleration takes 100 times as much energy.
Therefore it takes an infinite amount of energy to accelerate a body with
mass up to the speed of light. (For the same reasons, a particle of zero
mass *must* travel at exactly the speed of light. Note that we are talking
about the speed of light in a vacuum. It's all also true when travelling
through a medium like air or water, but the math gets messy and the speed of
light is slightly slower there.)
It has been theorized that it might be possible to go directly from, say 1/2
the speed of light to twice the speed of light. That would take you
completely out of our universe, which is limited by the speed of light
barrier. This is the technobabble explanation for hyperdrive or warp speed.
Jay Rudin
Dennis Q. Wilson
<brightice2...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Does this violate the theory of relativity?
Not as much as, say, marrying his cousin would.
David Johnston
wrote:
Sorry, I was making a lame joke about the many inconsistencies in
comic book continuity and how they could be explained by people
travelling faster than light and coming back in another universe.
Michael Wood
Back off the pedal on the speed or the morality? : )
Michael Wood
Fred Doyle
> Does this violate the theory of relativity?
>
"A pair of German physicists claim to have broken the speed of light -
an achievement that would undermine our entire understanding of space
and time."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/08/16/scispeed116.xml
--
Fred Doyle
George Peatty
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/08/16/scispeed116.xml
A couple years back a few scientists claimed to have produced cold fusion.
It was a hoax. This story is shy of a lot of detail I'll need to see before
conceding even the possibility there work is genuine. Until then, like the
road signs we often see .. c it's not just the speed limit; it's the law ..
Lilith
wrote:
Well, I meant speed, but now that you mention it......
>Michael Wood
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Lilith
Don Stockbauer
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:31:59 -0400, Fred Doyle <fdoy...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/08/16/sci...
>
> A couple years back a few scientists claimed to have produced cold fusion.
> It was a hoax. This story is shy of a lot of detail I'll need to see before
> conceding even the possibility there work is genuine. Until then, like the
> road signs we often see .. c it's not just the speed limit; it's the law ..
What if Superman got in a fight with Jesus Christ????????????
Jeckyl
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> On Aug 16, 6:42 pm, George Peatty <peattyg47-1...@copper.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:31:59 -0400, Fred Doyle <fdoy...@nycap.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/08/16/sci...
>>
>> A couple years back a few scientists claimed to have produced cold
>> fusion.
>> It was a hoax.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
Peter Bruells
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:31:59 -0400, Fred Doyle <fdo...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/08/16/scispeed116.xml
>
> A couple years back a few scientists claimed to have produced cold fusion.
> It was a hoax.
No, it wasn't.
It may have been bad science, but there was no intent or trickery
involved.
I Was A Teenage Queerwolf
I always thought Superman *WAS* Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Was A Teenage Queerwolf
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:31:59 -0400, Fred Doyle <fdoy...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/08/16/sci...
>
> A couple years back a few scientists claimed to have produced cold fusion.
> It was a hoax. This story is shy of a lot of detail I'll need to see before
> conceding even the possibility there work is genuine.
My doctor's given me some tablets to take for it half-an-hour before I
wake up in the morning.
I Was A Teenage Queerwolf
The short answer is NO, because Superman doesn't exist, and
Aincha heard?? NOTHING can go faster than light!!
andoftendoes
Lilith
No. Silver Surfer is Jesus.
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Silver Surfer is Hamlet. Aquarian is Jesus.
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relativity. He would violate it if he tried to break the c barrier in
either way.
But under closer examination we can say that there are only 4 cases:
1) The relativity is correct and superman breaks the c. Then in some
unexplainable way he cannot violate the theory, athough breaking the
barrier!
2) Realtivity is wrong and superman breaks c. No problem here.
3)Relativity is right and superman cannot break c. No problem again.
4)Relativity is wrong and superman cannot break c. No problem here
either, and in my humble opinion the most propable case.
I Was A Teenage Queerwolf
> > Does this violate the theory of relativity?
>
> This has been proven.
> Therefore Superman is a fake.
> He doesn't exist, even in the comic books.
>
> Superman is a joke.
> DC comics is a joke.
>
> Basically DC just says Superman can do any thing:
> He can fly 20 million times the speed of light.
> He can lift planets and juggle them.
And all in the name of science. (That's why he's not immune to
magic.)
> He can create a black hole and suck up the entire Universe.
I didn't know that ...
>
> LOL!
> Whatever.
> DC fan boys will now somehow defend the impossible.
It's our super powers!
Michael Wood
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Best reply in the whole thread. (and it stays in character for a DC
crossover - so it is a miracle!)
Michael Wood
I Was A Teenage Queerwolf
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> - Show quoted text -
You are the new man. You bring freshness and enlightenment to our
whole thread.
I Was A Teenage Queerwolf
I Was A Teenage Queerwolf
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Thanks ....