A suggestion for the LHC project
Y.Porat
i hereby suggest that the LHC people
will** notice and record**
the Circular or curved motion that will be
as a result of those Proton collissions
that might be curved motion that is unexpected
by current theories
ie
the radius of curvature there might be
SMALLER than expected by current theories
my explanation to that is the 'Circlon' basic particle
influence
according to my model findings
there is a basic particle
that moves naturally in a curved path
naturally means it moves that way
not because some external force is forcing it
but because that is the way that particle was created by nature (a
postulate !!)
that special motion
is the reason for the attraction forces
ie
by pressing particles to the inward direction
and curving ( by collisions ) their motion of the acted particles
particles send those force messengers to each
other and becomes a sort of a 'clamp'
that makes particle to become closer--
more and more as distance between them
becomes closer
therefore stronger and stronger ..
(compatible with the inverse distance law of forces )
the 'circlon can move in any radius curvature --
from the smallest -- to the biggest )
(as the number of coliding Circlons is more
at the closer distance from each particle )
instead of my clumsy words description
better see it graphically at the appendix of the
abstract of my model:
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
(you have to click the View link)
2
if one is asking
what particle should be followed:??
the Protons there is an example
even if there should be many fragments of it
the circlon themselves are alleged to be some of those fragments
exploding out
so
i dont think we can see the Circlons
they are too tiny
but we could 'see'
** its action on other particles and fragments**
anywat
the Protons motion seem to be the simplest example
to start flowing it
copyright 27-11-09
TIA
Y.Porat
---------------------
eric gisse
>
> i hereby suggest that the LHC people
...none of whom read any of the newsgroups you crossposted into.
> will** notice and record**
> the Circular or curved motion that will be
> as a result of those Proton collissions
The LHC collides Lead nuclei, idiot.
>
> that might be curved motion that is unexpected
> by current theories
Might? Way to take a stand.
> ie
> the radius of curvature there might be
> SMALLER than expected by current theories
You have no idea what current theories are, much less what they predict.
>
> my explanation to that is the 'Circlon' basic particle
Which you can ascribe no properties to, other than 'it moves in circles'.
Amazing how your psychotic rambling is indistinguishable from other
psychotic rambling.
> influence
> according to my model findings
Your model also 'finds' that charge conservation is invalid. Your model is
crap.
> there is a basic particle
> that moves naturally in a curved path
Your model apparently also 'finds' non-conservation of energy.
> naturally means it moves that way
> not because some external force is forcing it
> but because that is the way that particle was created by nature (a
> postulate !!)
Translation: My years of drug abuse and onset of senility have robbed me of
any rational reasoning so I might as well say 'it is a postulate' even
though I scream and rage against general relativity which is founded on far
more rational postulates.
[snip rest of the spew]
Y.Porat
--------------
(:-)
if you have better suggestions to he LHC
just go ahead!!
meanwhile
spend all your miserable life with the Higgs Bosons ....
so
if you would like some interesting productive discussion --
please bypass the little moron parrot psychopath... that cant find a
decent day job ...
ps
he didnt say a single word of physics
beside personal abuse
understanding nothing of my model
because of lack of appropriate skills
beside being a mathematics parrot
that comes as well - from personal revenge
btw
another sign for that psychopath is that he is systematically snipping
the other
ng that i marked in my op post --
no minimal respect to standard behavior
and does not deserve the minimal respect
btw
he is not alone here by that behavior
soon you wil see the other moron parrot gangsters
Y.P
-----------------------
eric gisse
[...]
>
> just go ahead!!
> meanwhile
> spend all your miserable life with the Higgs Bosons ....
>
> so
> if you would like some interesting productive discussion --
I love interesting and productive discussions. But I prefer to have them
with people who can at least write coherent English and articulate rational
thoughts.
[snip rest]
Y.Porat
--------------
i am not a native English speaker
anyway
we can do better without you
you are unable to understand my model
and not the Circlon idea
as a by product of it
you are a parrot mathematician
dont have the slightest skill for pioneering science
so let others get in
we will do nicely and much better without you
ps
again the little psychopath crook
snipped my other remarked NG s ....
he cant get it that it want help him !!
BYE
------------------------
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
http://www.motionmountain.net/research/index.html
--
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
Aleph
@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 26 Nov 2009
22:37:54 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted these words
of wisdom:
>
> he didnt say a single word of physics
> beside personal abuse
> understanding nothing of my model
Actually, I thought his response was fairly succinct and quite polite.
You are a crazy buffoon - amazing combination really.
> btw
> another sign for that psychopath is that he is systematically snipping
> the other
> ng that i marked in my op post --
It might surprise you to know that cross posting is a bit rude and it is
perfectly normal, and common for people to trim their posts and / or set
follow ups to appropriate groups.
The fact you *dont* know this, and dont do it, while ranting about signs
of respect is ironic.
> no minimal respect to standard behavior
> and does not deserve the minimal respect
So, because *you* dont show any signs of respect for standard behaviour,
you do not deserve the minimal respect either.
Ok, will do.
> btw
> he is not alone here by that behavior
> soon you wil see the other moron parrot gangsters
Oh, oh, please sir, do you mean me?
You are an idiot Porat.
--
Aleph
This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
to this account will be ignored.
Aleph
@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 26 Nov 2009
23:40:12 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted these words
of wisdom:
> i am not a native English speaker
It shows and, you are right, it doesnt matter.
What *does* matter is your total inability to express your, ahem,
*theories* in a language anyone else can understand. You cant speak
English, are too lazy to use a spell checker on your postings and dont
know any math to show your predictions / conclusions.
Is it any wonder everyone things you are a buffoon?
Y.Porat
wrote:
---------------------
Thank you Dirk for your contribution !!
anyway
i dont say that all the standard model is wrong--
what i say is that it if far from being satisfactory !!!
if it was leading tothe W and Z bosone
thqt are hundreds of times bigger than their mother
than someting is wrong ther
2
if it was leading tothe Higgs Bosons
than again soemthing is wrong there
and if so
we have to correct it
now th eoly way to do it in a dead lock situation is
by
TRIAL AND ERROR !!
soi dont see what is that
unexplained and irrational personal attack on me
while some crooks hired gangsters
attack me without bringing
a substantiated single arguments of of science
just an example
the little parrot Gisse claimed that mymodel
is against conservation of mass or energy??!
were tohell can that little crook say something like that
by just
HAND WAVING ??!
without bringing a **single specific example*
of it to justify his accusation !!
formeit i sobvious that he understans nothing of my model
and he by definition of his limited education
or intelligence
is able to understand it !!
2
what is the devil that may drive those people
tobe soantagonistic to a new suggestion
a new approach while so much in the standard model
doea not work !!
for instance
it never succeeded to unify all the forces !!!
inspight enormous efforts
ATB
Y.Porat
----------------------
Uncle Al
>
> i hereby suggest that the LHC people
> will** notice and record**
> the Circular or curved motion that will be
> as a result of those Proton collissions
idiot
> that special motion
> is the reason for the attraction forces
> ie
> by pressing particles to the inward direction
> and curving ( by collisions ) their motion of the acted particles
[snip rest of crap]
illucid idiot
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
Y.Porat
> "Y.Porat" wrote:
>
> > i hereby suggest that the LHC people
> > will** notice and record**
> > the Circular or curved motion that will be
> > as a result of those Proton collissions
>
> [snip crap]
>
> idiot
>
> > that special motion
> > is the reason for the attraction forces
> > ie
> > by pressing particles to the inward direction
> > and curving ( by collisions ) their motion of the acted particles
>
> [snip rest of crap]
>
> illucid idiot
>
> --
> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
-------------------
old senile farther
1
were are your giant diamonds ??
and how about your chirralities ??
2
speak physics arguments
or else piss off !!! (probably in your pants )
because untillnow you ddint speak a single word of
physics arguments
Y.P
----------------------
Igor
Hey, Borat, maybe if you gave us an actual number based on your
theory, people could take you a little more seriously. Till then,
people will continue to think of you as a collosal buffoon.
Y.Porat
---------------------
lets see how many more crook s
are going to gather around me
we are takling a bout a primery suggestions
and i suggested how togoon with it
1
to take the proton in that LHC
to calculate what should be its radios of curvature
in those specific conditions
in that specific Magnetic fiiesd
2
to measure the curavture as is in those conditions
around the explotions of other protons
3
to see if there is a difference between curvature of
protons moving there without those explosions
of protons
and
the curavture of movement of *untouched*
(unharmed ) protons at the environment
full of those fargments of he other exploded Protons
iow
to see the difference between protons moving in the
;clean' environment
and
compare it to the curavture movemet of protons
moving in the 'contaminated' environment
(
and even simpler
:
what is the infuence of the
'contaminated envirinment with fragments of protons )
on the movement of Protons
complicated ??
if complicated
i will try to find another way to express myself
thak you Igor for asking (for a change ) an apposite question)
at this satge it is imposibble to talk
exact figres
because no one can know all the data
so
it must **start* as a QUALITATIVE OBSERAVTION!!
even just tnoticing and recording allt hose curved movements
can be a start !!
ATB
Y.Porat
------------
that is in that complicated environment
eric gisse
> On Nov 27, 8:53 am, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Y.Porat wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>
>>
>> > just go ahead!!
>> > meanwhile
>> > spend all your miserable life with the Higgs Bosons ....
>>
>> > so
>> > if you would like some interesting productive discussion --
>>
>> I love interesting and productive discussions. But I prefer to have them
>> with people who can at least write coherent English and articulate
>> rational thoughts.
>>
>> [snip rest]
>
> --------------
> i am not a native English speaker
NO SHIT
[snip rest]
Y.Porat
following the apposite questions that i was asked here
i can be more specific with my above suggestion:
so it is:--
to concentrate on all Protons curved motions there
**that cannot be explained by the current theories *!!!
TIA
Y.porat
--------------
Igor
Hey clueless buffoon. You might try researching exactly what they can
and cannot measure at the LHC before you come off looking even more
ridiculous than usual.
PD
> i hereby suggest that the LHC people
> will** notice and record**
> the Circular or curved motion that will be
> as a result of those Proton collissions
>
> that might be curved motion that is unexpected
> by current theories
> ie
> the radius of curvature there might be
> SMALLER than expected by current theories
How much smaller?
3% smaller? 0.3% smaller? 0.000003% smaller?
Y.Porat
folowing your questions i frazed a more
applicable suggestion:
it is again:
to record and folow Proton curved motuion
THAT CANNOT BE EXPLAINED BY CURRENT
THEORY !!
ou asked me before
waht is the mass of the Circlon ??
so i realized that it would not be noticed
by curent tools
there fore i came toa more prctical suggestion
ie
INSTEAD OF LOOKING FO THE CIRCLON DIRECTLY-
TO LOOK FOR ITS ACTION ON OTHER PARTICLES!!
2
by suggesting to folow PROTONS ther are there in any case
to look about alleged action of Circlons on them
according to my suggestion
( based as a by product of my substantiated model) --
the Circlon is an attraction force messenger
therefore
it shoud act on a proton to enlarge its curvature
(to a smaller radius of curvature )
at this stage
it willbe an interesting start
and as you know
'Rome was not built in one day
*and not by justone man **!!
alter quantitative calculation can be done
while you can calculate what is the normal curvature of a aproton in
that LHC
and you can measure deviations from that
regular curvature
btw the regular curvature *along the accelerator* axis is the
curvature of the accelerator itself !!
in that case it is simple
now more comlicated cases are
while the proton does not move alongthe
accelerator axis
3
aniregualr curvature of proton movement
willbe while *next to its path of movement
there will be and '*explotion of two protons*
repaeat NEXT TO IT
4
while i say to take the cases that cant be explained by the current
theory
i mean for instance
NOT TO TAKE cases in which itis obvious
that our tested Proton was hit by sime big
fracture of protons
because at that case we know**
what was deviating the proton from its way
5
so Mr PD
yous ee that by some good will we can think
about things that no one before thought !!
it is all a matetr of taking it seriously
and investing in it !
anyway
thank you PD for your apposite questions !!
(since you have my book
you should take me more seriously ....
as a pioneering -- able scientist .)
ATB
Y.Porat
-------------------------
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
There is nothing stopping us from accelerating energy into a black
hole. When that doesn't happen black holes will be out.
Mitch Raemsch
Y.Porat
----------------------
who was talking in this thread about black holes ??!!
Burt
maybe focus yourself a bit ??
Y.P
----------------------------
Y.Porat
----------------
psychopath parrot nasty Bolshevic
-------------------------
Igor
But this psychopath parrot nasty Bolshevic keeps asking you for a
number and you still haven't given him one. Until you can do so,
maybe you should just shut the hell up until you learn some real
physics.
Y.Porat
-----------------
imbecile parrot
have you ever done anything in
pioneering science ???!!
dont answer it is obvious from your questions and behavior !!!
you are an idiot mathematician
you are not a physicist
certainly not one to give a damn for him
go fuck youself to the end of your miserable life withthe
HIggs Bosons
and goon live in your paradize of FOOLS !!
AND NASTY SHAMELESS CROOKS !!
BTW
what is your day job ??
2
iamnot sure thatyou have here jsut one name
it seems that you have at least** two **names here --one as an
anonymous !!!....
3
if you dont appreciate me
why the hell you intervene in my threads ?? !!
there is no ** rational** reason for that
unless personal vendetta !!!
for revealing that you are a big zero parrot
Y.P
------------------------
eric gisse
[...]
> imbecile parrot
> have you ever done anything in
> pioneering science ???!!
Are we holding Igor to the objective standards scientists hold themselves
and others to, or are we holding Igor to your own personal standard? If the
latter, everyone has 'pioneered science'.
> dont answer it is obvious from your questions and behavior !!!
> you are an idiot mathematician
> you are not a physicist
> certainly not one to give a damn for him
> go fuck youself to the end of your miserable life withthe
> HIggs Bosons
> and goon live in your paradize of FOOLS !!
> AND NASTY SHAMELESS CROOKS !!
> BTW
> what is your day job ??
> 2
> iamnot sure thatyou have here jsut one name
> it seems that you have at least** two **names here --one as an
> anonymous !!!....
> 3
> if you dont appreciate me
> why the hell you intervene in my threads ?? !!
>
> there is no ** rational** reason for that
> unless personal vendetta !!!
> for revealing that you are a big zero parrot
You hold a grudge better than anyone here. Perhaps you should take your
meds?
>
> Y.P
> ------------------------
Y.Porat
> In article <03ddac12-2f53-4721-bdbe-
> b71f85ae3...@r40g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Wed,
> 2 Dec 2009 00:55:09 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y.po...@gmail.com> imparted
> these words of wisdom:
>
> > -----------------
> > imbecile parrot
>
> Senile old mule.
>
> > have you ever done anything in
> > pioneering science ???!!
>
>
> You are a retarded Nazi Bolshevic Commie Capitalist bastard...
>
> > dont answer it is obvious from your questions and behavior !!!
> > you are an idiot mathematician
> > you are not a physicist
>
>
> > certainly not one to give a damn for him
> > go fuck youself to the end of your miserable life withthe
> > HIggs Bosons
> > and goon live in your paradize of FOOLS !!
> > AND NASTY SHAMELESS CROOKS !!
> > BTW
> > what is your day job ??
>
> pathetic.
>
> Just like Porat really.
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
> to this account will be ignored.
------------------
Aleph Gisse and Igor
allof you are the same bump parasites that has no day jobs
it is obvious from your parasitic sitting all day
next to the computer
go fuck yourselves in your homo orgi
toigether with your Higgs Bosons ....
no one gives a sjit on you Psychopaths
---------------------------------------------
Igor
Not only do you not understand math or physics, and cannot write
English too well, now you're acting like a two year old. Can we get
someone in here to change Porat's diaper? It's full of shit, just
like Porat.
Y.Porat
> In article <9a335dcc-9241-4f23-bac2-2b89a3064d59
> @b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Wed, 2 Dec 2009
> 05:01:26 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y.po...@gmail.com> imparted these words
> of wisdom:
>
>
>
> > ------------------
> > Aleph Gisse and Igor
> > allof you are the same bump parasites that has no day jobs
> > it is obvious from your parasitic sitting all day
> > next to the computer
>
>
> You look at something and think it is evidence of something else and
> nothing will dissuade you from your folly.
>
> You are a retard. Do you honestly think no one can have a job which
> involves them sitting at a computer? Do you honestly think that spending
> 20 mins a day mocking you is "all day?"
>
> If you do, then you have taken retard to a new level.
>
> > go fuck yourselves in your homo orgi
> > toigether with your Higgs Bosons ....
>
>
> Keep your perverted old homo fantasies to your self please. None of us
> are interested in you.
>
> > no one gives a sjit on you Psychopaths
>
> the keyboard. Retard.
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
> to this account will be ignored.
------------------
'no one is interested in me ''
have you heard the new Josef Goebbels ?? (:-)--
if no one is interested in me
****why the fuck you respond to my thread?***
who needs you here -- little psychopaths
do you think that every one here are idiots
not to see that you are a fucken psychopath
that never speak a single word of science??
but obsesed madness
and have not the slightest minimal logic behavior ??
it want help you
you will go on barking and snoring and farthing
and the convoy will go on ahead without you !!
2
the AIG company (Aleph Igor Gissse co)
IF YIOU HEVE A BETTER SUGGESTION THAN MY ABOVE ONE
TO THE LHC
THAN GO AHEAD DO IT !!!
who is preventing you from doing it ??!!
or else fuck yourselves for the rest of your fucken life
with the Higgs Bosons !!
3
why nasty AIG Co
you delete NGs that were in the OP post ??!!
only Josef Goebbels
nasty pigg psychopath gangsters could do it
no one gives a fuck on you piggshit human beings
ps
those remarks are for people who still dont know
who are those nasty pigg human beings
of the' AIG' gang
all the others already know who you really are ..
Y.P
----------------
Y.Porat
> In article <38e9145a-43e8-42fe-9478-
> 283b5cc2d...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Wed,
> 2 Dec 2009 08:35:12 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y.po...@gmail.com> imparted
> these words of wisdom:
>
> > ------------------
>
>
> > have you heard the new Josef Goebbels ?? (:-)--
>
>
> > if no one is interested in me
> > ****why the fuck you respond to my thread?***
>
> retarded sociopath?
>
> > who needs you here -- little psychopaths
>
>
> Equally funny is the fact you respond to my posts berating me for
> responding to yours. Its sheer comedy gold. Sadly you are too stupid to
> work it out.
>
> > do you think that every one here are idiots
>
> people like you.... You redefine idiot.
>
> > not to see that you are a fucken psychopath
> > that never speak a single word of science??
>
>
> > but obsesed madness
> > and have not the slightest minimal logic behavior ??
>
>
> > it want help you
> > you will go on barking and snoring and farthing
> > and the convoy will go on ahead without you !!
>
> years of posting your drivel to USENET.... The convoy is so far ahead of
> you, you dont even realise how far behind you are.
>
> > 2
> > the AIG company (Aleph Igor Gissse co)
>
>
> > IF YIOU HEVE A BETTER SUGGESTION THAN MY ABOVE ONE
> > TO THE LHC
> > THAN GO AHEAD DO IT !!!
>
>
> > who is preventing you from doing it ??!!
> > or else fuck yourselves for the rest of your fucken life
> > with the Higgs Bosons !!
> > 3
> > why nasty AIG Co
> > you delete NGs that were in the OP post ??!!
>
> adding your groups and assisting your pollution. I l
---------------------
Psychopath kaker
bring better suggestions to the LHC project
and only then open your psychopathic pig hole
Y.P
------------------------------
Aleph
f125fb...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote the
following words of wisdom:
> ---------------------
> Psychopath kaker
If you are going to insult me at least let me know what you are calling me.
> bring better suggestions to the LHC project
Why? I think it is doing fine.
> and only then open your psychopathic pig hole
Who died and made you k00kg0d of the interweb?
--
Aleph
This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
this account are very likely to be ignored.
Y.Porat
BTW
there is some probability
that the LHC
will create FUSION !!.....
i hope the designers took it into account !!
ATB
Y.Porat
------------------------------------
PD
Really? What's the daughter product of the fusion of two protons?
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Deuteronium, which since it is its own antiparticle will explode
instantly creating a giant fireball of doom!
--
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
Y.Porat
Mr PD
you have my book
try to read it and UNDERSTAND
it
sometimes you have to operate your
CREATIVE IMAGINATION !!
BTW
it is along time that i claimed that real effective fusion will be
by acceleration
i have in my mind acceleration
but it is not exactly as the LHC
anyway
as i said
there is probability of creating
FUSION!
not the most effective
and might even cause some local damage there !!!
anyway
there is some thing i can promise you :
**the probability to produce fusion there (alpha particles)
is many many orders of magnitude --- bigger
than finding the Higs Bosons !!...
ATB
Y.Porat
----------------------.
Y.Porat
wrote:
-------------
the sun is creating deuterium from hydrogen !!!
and it is only **a stage** for the final fusion!!
Y.P
-----------------------
PD
>
> -------------
> the sun is creating deuterium from hydrogen !!!
> and it is only **a stage** for the final fusion!!
That was my point, Porat. p + p -> D + (e+) + (v_e).
But then, unlike the sun, the D doesn't stick around long enough for
the next proton to come along and turn it into He3.
PD
PD
You may want to calculate the difference in that probability at
collisions at solar temperatures vs collisions at LHC temperature. You
may be then surprised to learn how significant (or insignificant) that
probability really is.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Unless it is held together by magnetic monopoles which will convert it
into srangelets and implode the entire earth! You poor naive fool!
I've done the secret calculations, so I know.
Y.Porat
> >> -------------
> >> the sun is creating deuterium from hydrogen !!!
> >> and it is only **a stage** for the final fusion!!
>
> > That was my point, Porat. p + p -> D + (e+) + (v_e).
> > But then, unlike the sun, the D doesn't stick around long enough for
> > the next proton to come along and turn it into He3.
>
> > PD
>
> Unless it is held together by magnetic monopoles which will convert it
> into srangelets and implode the entire earth! You poor naive fool!
> I've done the secret calculations, so I know.
>
> --
> Dirk
>
------------------
idiot parrot moron
Y.P
--------------------------
Y.Porat
the sun process is one thing
and the LHC is another
but the result will be the same
2
why only speculate
you think you know anything about it
but you might be surprised !!
let see the results !!
3
at this stage
no one can calculate the results
there are too many unknowns !!
my main point is just to see the Alpha particles created !!
and as i said
there will be many orders of them Alphas created
more than HIgs Bosons
4
it should be many orders** more practical** than higgs BOSONS (:-)
Y.Porat
--------------------
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
But I like crank fights!
Did I ever mention that I channeled an ancient Atlantean scientist who
confirmed that it was just such CERN-like experiments that sunk
Atlantis? What more proof do you fools need !???
Y.Porat
> >>>> -------------
> >>>> the sun is creating deuterium from hydrogen !!!
> >>>> and it is only **a stage** for the final fusion!!
> >>> That was my point, Porat. p + p -> D + (e+) + (v_e).
> >>> But then, unlike the sun, the D doesn't stick around long enough for
> >>> the next proton to come along and turn it into He3.
> >>> PD
> >> Unless it is held together by magnetic monopoles which will convert it
> >> into srangelets and implode the entire earth! You poor naive fool!
> >> I've done the secret calculations, so I know.
>
> >> --
> >> Dirk
>
>
> > ------------------
> > idiot parrot moron
>
> > Y.P
> > --------------------------
>
> But I like crank fights!
> Did I ever mention that I channeled an ancient Atlantean scientist who
> confirmed that it was just such CERN-like experiments that sunk
> Atlantis? What more proof do you fools need !???
>
> --
> Dirk
>
> http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/- A UK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show
---------------------
Mr Dirk
don tthalk about things of which you are a moron!!
it is irresponsibility and harm ful
connection (bonding of particles)
is not only done by pressure and temparature!!
it is ENERGY INVESTMENT !!
th e process needs energy investment
now it was tried by the Tokamak
but it was like shooting in the darkness!
ie blindly pressing paerticles
with complete ignoring the geometridc aspect
of the particles
that is the part of wich you are not the only moron about !!
the specific geometric structure
is of crucial importance in order of achieving
EFFICIENT fusion.
you can do it of course enormously beneficent
as by the Tokakam
but you can do it mjuch more 'tailor made '
by knowing much more about the specific structure of particles
see it in my abstract
the proton the neutron the deutron and the
Alpha
the nuc is not a porridge of particle 1
now
instead of enormous pressure
that actually means energy investment
you can do that ENERGY INVESTMENT
by enormous acceleration!!
th e difference is by the more accuracy
ie
less shouting in the darkness but pin point sniping !!
that of course you are too old to start learning
so
if you cant help
AT LEAST DONT DISTURB!!
that is one of the basic ethics commands
in medicine and in science in general !!
provided that ethics is something in your vocabulary !!
ps
i tried to be as polite as possible with you
if not
i have other styles of talking !!
Y.Porat
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
I prefer the Polywell
Y.Porat
> >>>>>> -------------
> >>>>>> the sun is creating deuterium from hydrogen !!!
> >>>>>> and it is only **a stage** for the final fusion!!
> >>>>> That was my point, Porat. p + p -> D + (e+) + (v_e).
> >>>>> But then, unlike the sun, the D doesn't stick around long enough for
> >>>>> the next proton to come along and turn it into He3.
> >>>>> PD
> >>>> Unless it is held together by magnetic monopoles which will convert it
> >>>> into srangelets and implode the entire earth! You poor naive fool!
> >>>> I've done the secret calculations, so I know.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dirk
> >>> ------------------
> >>> idiot parrot moron
> >>> Y.P
> >>> --------------------------
> >> But I like crank fights!
> >> Did I ever mention that I channeled an ancient Atlantean scientist who
> >> confirmed that it was just such CERN-like experiments that sunk
> >> Atlantis? What more proof do you fools need !???
>
> >> --
> >> Dirk
>
> >>http://www.transcendence.me.uk/-Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/-A UK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe-Occult Talk Show
>
-------------------
what is polywell ???
2
why the hell -- looking there
for the Higgs Bosons --
looks to you more reasonable and PRACTICAL
--than looking for Alpha particles ???
Y.Porat
--------------------------
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Y.Porat
> >>>>>>>> the sun is creating deuterium from hydrogen !!!
> >>>>>>>> and it is only **a stage** for the final fusion!!
> >>>>>>> That was my point, Porat. p + p -> D + (e+) + (v_e).
> >>>>>>> But then, unlike the sun, the D doesn't stick around long enough for
> >>>>>>> the next proton to come along and turn it into He3.
> >>>>>>> PD
> >>>>>> Unless it is held together by magnetic monopoles which will convert it
> >>>>>> into srangelets and implode the entire earth! You poor naive fool!
> >>>>>> I've done the secret calculations, so I know.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Dirk
> >>>>> ------------------
> >>>>> idiot parrot moron
> >>>>> Y.P
> >>>>> --------------------------
> >>>> But I like crank fights!
> >>>> Did I ever mention that I channeled an ancient Atlantean scientist who
> >>>> confirmed that it was just such CERN-like experiments that sunk
> >>>> Atlantis? What more proof do you fools need !???
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dirk
> >>>>http://www.transcendence.me.uk/-TranscendenceUKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/-AUK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe-OccultTalk Show
> > what is polywell ???
> > 2
> > why the hell -- looking there
> > for the Higgs Bosons --
> > looks to you more reasonable and PRACTICAL
>
> > --than looking for Alpha particles ???
>
> > Y.Porat
> > --------------------------
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywell
>
> --
> Dirk
>
> http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/- A UK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show
--------------------
thank you Dirk
it is certainly better than the dumb Tokamak
and thoght i knew noting about it before
is is somehow in a roght direction but
but still not good enough!!
it still does not take into acount the
EXACT GEOMETRIC STRUCTURE OF THE ALPHA PARTICLE !!!
the sun as well does fusion from prptons
but even mighty sun still is not the most effective machine !!!
we huma beings should be better and cleaver even more than the sun
because we cant afford the conditions on the sun !!!
2
let me quote a section from your above quote :
Most strikes with other nuclei do not result in fusion, but
occasionally fusion results.
A benefit with the Farnsworth-Hirsch fusor is that without the motion
of electrons and magnetic fields, there are no synchrotron losses and
(if the grid is kept cool to reduce thermionic emission) low levels of
bremsstrahlung radiation.[1]
''The fundamental problem with this traditional system is with the
grid itself. Far too often, nuclei strike the grid. This damages the
grid, wastes the energy that went into ionizing and accelerating the
particle, and most critically, heats the grid. Even if the former
problems were not critical, having a fine mesh grid in a reactor
producing enough power to be used as a power plant would almost
certainly mean that it would be rapidly vaporized.''
end of quote
3
the LHC has some property of 'going in the right direction' for fusion
but still not good enough
because
because it was not' tailor ' made for fusion.
it was designed for something else
and even so
i found some element of it that **reminds* the
right machine !!
one good property for ity is the
**counter acceleration** of the SIMPLEST AND **CHEAPEST** RAW
MATERIAL-- the protons !!
but if you wand to get the much more effective
amchine
youmust know exactly the geometric structure
of the proton and the last product
THE ALPHA PARTICLE .
so i suggest that all of you will have a look at my
abstarct quoted in my first op post
and try to keep it in your memory
a little hint:
all the ***four*** particles composing the Alpha
are *connected in ***one 'point '*** !!!!!
it is more than a hint .......
ATB
Y.Porat
-------------------------------
Magnetic
> i hereby suggest that the LHC people
> will** notice and record**
> the Circular or curved motion that will be
> as a result of those Proton collissions
>
> that might be curved motion that is unexpected
> by current theories
> ie
> the radius of curvature there might be
> SMALLER than expected by current theories
>
A suggestion for the LHC project = to nuke it.
That will save your lives.
Ivan.
Y.Porat
------------------------
to say that the LHC will be nuked is far exaggerated!!
according to my understanding (and actually guess)-
it will not become a fusion reactor!!
the number of Alpha particles that will be created and found
is very small !!
for a nuk fusion you need a nonstop big number of Alphas to be created
(and at the same concentrated location )!!!!
anyway
a much bigger number of Alphas will be found
compared to the number of Higgs Bosons !! (:-)
ATB
Y.Porat
-----------------------------
Aleph
ab2792...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Magnetic sat down and wrote the
following words of wisdom:
>
> A suggestion for the LHC project = to nuke it.
> That will save your lives.
> Ivan.
Where would you drop the nuke?
Aleph
bd2d-176...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote
> On Dec 8, 5:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 8, 5:22 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > BTW
>>
>> > there is some probability
>> > that the LHC
>> > will create FUSION !!.....
>>
>> Really? What's the daughter product of the fusion of two protons?
>>
>
> Mr PD
> you have my book
> try to read it and UNDERSTAND
> it
> sometimes you have to operate your
> CREATIVE IMAGINATION !!
> BTW
> it is along time that i claimed that real effective fusion will be
> by acceleration
> i have in my mind acceleration
> but it is not exactly as the LHC
> anyway
> as i said
> there is probability of creating
> FUSION!
> not the most effective
> and might even cause some local damage there !!!
> anyway
> there is some thing i can promise you :
> **the probability to produce fusion there (alpha particles)
> is many many orders of magnitude --- bigger
> than finding the Higs Bosons !!...
That really is a long winded way of saying that you are clueless.
Remember it is better to say nothing and be thought a fool, rather then
speak and prove you are a fool...
Aleph
fddd5d...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote the
following words of wisdom:
> On Dec 8, 6:51 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <mass snippage>
>>
>> You may want to calculate the difference in that probability at
>> collisions at solar temperatures vs collisions at LHC temperature. You
>> may be then surprised to learn how significant (or insignificant) that
>> probability really is.
> <snippage>
>
> the sun process is one thing
> and the LHC is another
> but the result will be the same
So, basically, you have no idea? You claim a probability but have no way of
working out what it is?
Ok.
> 2
> why only speculate
> you think you know anything about it
> but you might be surprised !!
> let see the results !!
/giggles/
> 3
> at this stage
> no one can calculate the results
> there are too many unknowns !!
/chortle/
> my main point is just to see the Alpha particles created !!
> and as i said
> there will be many orders of them Alphas created
> more than HIgs Bosons
> 4
> it should be many orders** more practical** than higgs BOSONS (:-)
You are funny. Thank you for brightening my day.
Y.Porat
> On Tuesday 08 December 2009 16:36, in <5ff82843-5430-4cd4-
---------------------------------
http://www.facebook.com/eric.gisse
(:-)
right !! (:-).....(just have a look at that
psychopath mug pig shit )
-----------------------------
Autymn D. C.
> A suggestion for the LHC project = to nuke it.
> That will save your lives.
> Ivan.
Wrong, Jòan dumbshit. Singularity = infinite potential .'. no
singularity.
Aleph
a4b4-0ce...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote
>
> ---------------------------------
> http://www.facebook.com/eric.gisse
> (:-)
> right !! (:-).....(just have a look at that
> psychopath mug pig shit )
> -----------------------------
I am both intrigued and disturbed that you think this is in anyway a
response to my post.
I cant look at the picture because I dont have a facebook account and I
refuse to get one. You on the otherhand seem more than willing to spend your
time admiring the picture of your crush. I find that disturbing.
I am intrigued as to how you think this was a rational response though.
eric gisse
[...]
> ---------------------------------
> http://www.facebook.com/eric.gisse
> (:-)
> right !! (:-).....(just have a look at that
> psychopath mug pig shit )
> -----------------------------
Prior to launching the final solution, Hitler assembles his generals and
tells them of his plan.
He says that he is going to exterminate all the jews, and one clown.
One general asks "Why the clown?", and Hitler says "See? Nobody cares about
the Jews."
Once I run out of jew jokes, which will take awhile, I'll move on to old man
jokes. Or - crazy thought - you can stay the fuck out of my personal life,
stop referencing my facebook profile, and generally stop being a disgusting
and creepy old fuck.
PD
It will also kill hundreds of thousands of lives if it is nuked.
Are you completely unbalanced by now?
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
In which case you need... Colliding Beam Fusion!
Although a Plasma Focus device might be simpler
Y.Porat
--------------------
accelerated beams has muchmore energy
than just plasma
2
it is more direction controlled
if you see my abstract you see that particles are very
geometric defined:
for instance
most particles has two poles
THAT ARE NOT IDENTICAL that makes them poles !!..
those particles are longish
ie they should collide efficiently along their
longitudinal axis
in a plasma you dont have a control on the direction of the
particles-- they rotate like mad
so the rigth collision is accidental not pin pointed
for instance head to head or head to tail etc etc
ATB
Y.Porat
----------------------------
Y.Porat
----------------
if you tel me who is Aleph
i will get of your back !!
or else you are Aleph as well
the same behavior
2
your jews jokes are causing *you* damage
not me !!
you are not cleaver enough to understand it !!
Y.P
------------------
PD
>
> the sun process is one thing
> and the LHC is another
> but the result will be the same
> 2
> why only speculate
> you think you know anything about it
> but you might be surprised !!
> let see the results !!
> 3
> at this stage
> no one can calculate the results
> there are too many unknowns !!
> my main point is just to see the Alpha particles created !!
> and as i said
> there will be many orders of them Alphas created
> more than HIgs Bosons
> 4
> it should be many orders** more practical** than higgs BOSONS (:-)
>
> Y.Porat
> --------------------
Tell you what... why don't you dig for oil in your back yard?
At this stage, no one can calculate whether that is a foolish
endeavor. There are too many unknowns.
Why speculate that you know the answer to that already? You might be
surprised. And if I am right, then you will have bestowed riches on
your descendants. Why not try it and see?
And since it's YOUR back yard, you are in the best position to do
that.
PD
eric gisse
> On Dec 9, 4:46 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Y.Porat wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > ---------------------------------
>> >http://www.facebook.com/eric.gisse
>> > (:-)
>> > right !! (:-).....(just have a look at that
>> > psychopath mug pig shit )
>> > -----------------------------
>>
>> Prior to launching the final solution, Hitler assembles his generals and
>> tells them of his plan.
>>
>> He says that he is going to exterminate all the jews, and one clown.
>>
>> One general asks "Why the clown?", and Hitler says "See? Nobody cares
>> about the Jews."
>>
>> Once I run out of jew jokes, which will take awhile, I'll move on to old
>> man jokes. Or - crazy thought - you can stay the fuck out of my personal
>> life, stop referencing my facebook profile, and generally stop being a
>> disgusting and creepy old fuck.
>
> ----------------
> if you tel me who is Aleph
> i will get of your back !!
How the fuck would I know? I'm not his keeper, or at all inclined to tell
who people are just to satisfy someone who couldn't string a coherent
thought together to safe his life.
Aleph
b103-708...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote
> ----------------
> if you tel me who is Aleph
> i will get of your back !!
What a bizarre threat.
You *demand* that Eric reveal the identity of someone who apparently has
chosen to keep that private or you will continue to stalk him.
Do you see how that looks? The irony is you have the cheek to call others
"criminals." Shame on you Porat.
The problem is, I doubt Eric knows who I am and I very, very much doubt that
he cares enough to try and find out.
Why is my identity so important to you? I could tell you that I was Benito
Mussolini the fifth and how would you prove me wrong?
> or else you are Aleph as well
Prove you aren't tj Frazir or Jeff Relf. Otherwise you are the same person
as both of them.
You are one fucked up k00k.
> the same behavior
> 2
> your jews jokes are causing *you* damage
> not me !!
> you are not cleaver enough to understand it !!
Oh god, the iron E again.
BradGuth
>
> A suggestion for theLHCproject = to nuke it.
> That will save your lives.
> Ivan.
Perhaps this is what an LHC “magnetic trap” or wormhole vortex looks
like. Oddly, it seems that it has also affected our Google Groups
(Usenet/newsgroup) performance, dragging it down to its knees. How
many Usenet/newsgroup servers are affected?
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/what-was-the-norway-spiral/
“Now they have done it, they fired up the LHC and created the black
hole.”
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/weird-giant-spiral-seen-in-sky-over-norway/
Apparently, this is not a Photoshopped image, as there are several
more just like it, taken from various locations. This morning in
northern Norway, people saw a strange light in the sky which shocked
residents and so far, the phenomenon has yet to be explained. This
picture was taken from a pier, looking to the east, approximately at
07.50 am local time. "I can imagine that it went on for two, three
minutes," said the photographer Jan Petter Jørgensen. "It was
unbelievable. I was quite shaken when I saw it."
“I also received a report today from a geophysicist in Papua,
Indonesia who observed "an enormous flare (bolide?) visible here at
Tomage (2°39'27"S 132°59'27"E), and the sighting was at a bearing
approximately 165 (East of South) and the flare seemed to begin at
about 30 degrees above the horizon." Paul Anderson said the date and
time of the flare was approximately 2009.12.09 12:39 UTC”
Nuking our spendy LHC isn’t entirely unacceptable, although even a
relatively small tactical nuke should damage enough LHC helium cooling
to force an extended shut-down.
~ BG
Y.Porat
-------------------
i dont see what are you mumbling there!!
ie
what is your motivation to do it ??
most probably enviousness !!
2
my arguments for finding Apha prticles in LHC are obvious
anyone who follow my model it is clear for him
your questions about probability are silly
and malicious!
because
just tell us what are the probabilities to find your imbecilic Higgs
Bosons ??!
you dont have an aswer rigth
so i will tell you what are your probabilities:
it is one for many billions !!
so is that your science ??!!
is it better than my prediction that Alpha particles will be for sure
for me - found ??
what will be more practical
your fucken Bossons??
or alpha particles that can be a good start for fusion ??
that will be found there millions of times more probable than your
idiotic Higggs ??!!
moreover
a better start of a new era in matter understanding ??
so let it face it Mr PD
your behavior is petty and nasty !!!
but the convoy will go ahead to your dismay !!
2
dont even dream to steal anything from me
(if that is one of your motivations -
you cant do it !!)
the fact that you got my book not from me
that you refuse from whom you got it
and the fact that you never informed me
that you got it
speaks for itself you are an unreliable crook !!!
beside your being a little petty parrot !!
i wil not be surprised that your second name here is
another gangster name
Y.Porat
-----------------------
Y.Porat
>
> > the sun is creating deuterium from hydrogen !!!
> > and it is only **a stage** for the final fusion!!
>
> That was my point, Porat. p + p -> D + (e+) + (v_e).
> But then, unlike the sun, the D doesn't stick around long enough for
> the next proton to come along and turn it into He3.
>
> PD
----------------
but at last
D and TRit are composed on the sun** from Protons **
just from protons !!!
and the fact is that the last product there is
Alpha particles !!!
2
THE LHC IS NOT EXACTLY THE SUN !!!
you lack creative imagination!!
you are and will remain a parrot !!!!
Y.Porat
----------------------------
Y.Porat
>
> > > -------------
> > > the sun is creating deuterium from hydrogen !!!
> > > and it is only **a stage** for the final fusion!!
>
> > That was my point, Porat. p + p -> D + (e+) + (v_e).
> > But then, unlike the sun, the D doesn't stick around long enough for
> > the next proton to come along and turn it into He3.
>
> > PD
>
> ----------------
> but at last
> D and TRit are composed on the sun** from Protons **
> just from protons !!!
> and the fact is that the last product there is
> Alpha particles !!!
> 2
> THE LHC IS NOT EXACTLY THE SUN !!!
> you lack creative imagination!!
> you are and will remain a parrot !!!!
>
> Y.Porat
> ----------------------------
and now in a second thought
Mr PD
you came up here above with the
jealous full intention to disturb me
but at the end of the day
it will be found that you helped me
i n anotrher cross verification for my model:
so the question to PD or someone else :
if you claimed that counter colliding
protons of the LHC **cannot** produce
Alpha particles
now my question:
if according to the existing theory ??
(that the LHC will not produce Alphas ??
if it IS possible by current theory--
how is it possible ???
if **not** possible - why not possible ??
TIA
Y.Porat
-----------------------
Aleph
@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Wed, 9 Dec 2009
21:37:47 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted these words
of wisdom:
>
> and now in a second thought
> Mr PD
> you came up here above with the
> jealous full intention to disturb me
I doubt that was ever PD's intention.
It might be mine though.
> but at the end of the day
> it will be found that you helped me
> i n anotrher cross verification for my model:
You are kind of a retard, arent you?
--
Aleph
This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
to this account will be ignored.
Y.Porat
> In article <39dda698-f757-4561-9f74-80fa0292b367
> @p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Wed, 9 Dec 2009
> of wisdom:
>
>
>
> > and now in a second thought
> > Mr PD
> > you came up here above with the
> > jealous full intention to disturb me
>
> I doubt that was ever PD's intention.
>
> It might be mine though.
>
> > but at the end of the day
> > it will be found that you helped me
> > i n anotrher cross verification for my model:
>
> You are kind of a retard, arent you?
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
> to this account will be ignored.
------------------
speak physics arguments psychopath !!!
i was asking questions
if you dont know then fuck yourself off
there is no room here for psychopaths
that nevre speak a single word of
physics argument
2
i suggest the other readers tobypass
those professional gangsters
if they would like to see some new
important ideas !!and innovations
and i promise you to ahve some ....
Y.Porat
-------------------
Y.P
----------------
Aleph
f5f7d4...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu,
10 Dec 2009 22:34:49 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted
>
> On Dec 11, 1:49 am, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> > In article <39dda698-f757-4561-9f74-80fa0292b367
> > @p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Wed, 9 Dec 2009
> > 21:37:47 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y.po...@gmail.com> imparted these words
> > of wisdom:
> >
> >
> >
> > > and now in a second thought
> > > Mr PD
> > > you came up here above with the
> > > jealous full intention to disturb me
> >
> > I doubt that was ever PD's intention.
> >
> > It might be mine though.
> >
> > > but at the end of the day
> > > it will be found that you helped me
> > > i n anotrher cross verification for my model:
> >
> > You are kind of a retard, arent you?
>
>
> speak physics arguments psychopath !!!
Make sense retard ! ! ! !
> i was asking questions
No, you were fr0thing your gibberish at PD. Do try and keep up.
> if you dont know then fuck yourself off
Keep your perverted little fantasies to yourself.
> there is no room here for psychopaths
ORLY? I believe you are mistaken or do you think you can be the only
nutcase here?
> that nevre speak a single word of
> physics argument
So you have read every USENET post I have ever made? Well done stalker.
Either that or you are lying.
I think you are lying.
> 2
> i suggest the other readers tobypass
> those professional gangsters
> if they would like to see some new
> important ideas !!and innovations
> and i promise you to ahve some ....
ROTFLMAO
Y.Porat
> On Dec 8, 10:36 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > ATB
> > > > Y.Porat
> > > > ------------------------------------
>
> > Mr PD
> > you have my book
> > try to read it and UNDERSTAND
> > it
> > sometimes you have to operate your
> > CREATIVE IMAGINATION !!
> > BTW
> > it is along time that i claimed that real effective fusion will be
> > by acceleration
> > i have in my mind acceleration
> > but it is not exactly as the LHC
> > anyway
> > as i said
> > there is probability of creating
> > FUSION!
>
> collisions at solar temperatures vs collisions at LHC temperature. You
> may be then surprised to learn how significant (or insignificant) that
> probability really is.
>
> > and might even cause some local damage there !!!
> > anyway
> > there is some thing i can promise you :
> > **the probability to produce fusion there (alpha particles)
> > is many many orders of magnitude --- bigger
> > than finding the Higs Bosons !!...
>
> > Y.Porat
> > ----------------------.
i was asking
if the current theory is predicting finding
Alpha particles in the LHC activity
*no one untill now was claiming that
(even hundreds of people are watching this thread !!)
quite the contrary:
PD 'proved* that it is impossible
'sicnce P +P ----->D
is too short time to be able to create the Alpha
if so
**my prediction that Alpha particles might be found in the LHC -is
unprecedented !!!!!!!
copyright 12-12-09
ATB
Y.Porat
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if so
my claim that
Magnetic
Attention! Magnetic trap of Devil!
There is a very big probability that magnetic trap will kill us all,
if we will not stop powerful colliders.
Magnetic trap is an object, unifying hypothetical objects, connected
primarily by magnetic forces: neutron drop / liquid; neutron hole;
magnetic hole ...
It is probable that the microscopic magnetic trap can be created at
the collider. Magnetic trap will grow capturing the normal substance.
As a result, magnetic trap can destroy the Earth.
Magnetic hole is a magnetic analog of the black hole. The black hole
is binded by gravitational forces, and the magnetic hole is binded by
magnetic forces, which are many-many times stronger than gravity
forces.
Magnetic hole is a magnetic dipole, in the form of a circle, where
there is the critical magnetic field. The lines of magnetic induction
are directed perpendicular to the plane of the circle. Nucleons are
microscopic magnets, and they can be easily captured by the critical
field of the hole. As a result the hole is growing.
The approximate computation shows that the minimal possible magnetic
hole, which can capture a nucleon, has a mass about 340 of masses of
nucleons. The Tevatron collider is now working above this region (1
TeV). Creation of magnetic holes at Tevatron was impossible for two
reasons:
1. Collision of a proton and an antiproton leads to annihilation; 2.
In the center of the line, connecting the proton and antiproton,
facing a tangent, the magnetic field is zero.
The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) will be able to create the particles
with the rest mass, which are dozens times more that the minimal
possible mass of magnetic hole.
According to publications, LHC will create microscopic black holes.
Most theorists suggest that these black holes will disappear, because
of the Hawking evaporation. However, we know that there are several
theories of gravity. Some theories did not even admit the existence of
black holes. In addition, there are several theories of black holes.
Therefore, confidence in the classical theory of black holes and in a
process of evaporation of black holes is very poor.
For several years, some scientists argue and demand to ban the
construction of powerful colliders. Among the known dangerous objects
that may lead to global catastrophe are the following: microscopic
black holes, strangelets, magnetic monopoles, vacuum bubbles. I
learned about these disputes and concerns only in early September
2008. And then I immediately noticed that the objects, bounded by
magnetic forces, were almost not analyzed.
In early September, I assumed that the probability of a global
catastrophe is less than 0.000001. However, after three months of
analysis of the objects, bounded by magnetic forces, and after the
analysis of space observations, my assessment of the global disaster
has surpassed dozens of percents.
Some theorists suggest that the Higgs bosons will be registered at the
LHC. And, if these particles will not been found, the theorists would
be very surprised; - this would prove that the Standard Model is
wrong. Higgs boson had received a new name, "the God particle". We
know that the most of particles have their corresponding
antiparticles. So, if there is a particle of God, then there is a
particle of Devil. Two colliding particles can give two more massive
particles, - the particle and its antiparticle, for example, an
electron and positron. By adding the colliding energy, we can get the
God particle and its anti-particle, the magnetic trap of Devil.
Particles and antiparticles have diametrically opposed properties.
Indeed, the Higgs boson causes the ordinary matter to have a mass. But
the magnetic hole captures the substance and transforms its rest mass-
energy into another form of matter, - the magnetic field of the
Devil's trap. Say me now, are we have the right to touch the particle
of God?
Microscopic magnetic holes created at the collider, will move to the
center of the Earth, absorbing the matter in their path. Eventually
they will merge together into a single and much stronger magnetic
hole. The thin shell of the Earth, together with us, will be ejected
into cosmic space, but the rest of the Earth will turn into an
electric current loop of several meters radius. For comparison, the
radius of a black hole of the same mass is 9 millimeters. Half of
Earth’s mass will be transformed into magnetic field of neutron hole,
and another half will be transformed into radiation and kinetic energy
of the released shell.
Magnetic hole will not decay if it was born in such cold place, as the
collider, where the temperature is close to 0 K. If the magnetic hole
is born in a collision of space particle with atmospheric particle, it
has a speed, which is close to the speed of light. As a result, such
magnetic hole will evaporate almost immediately as a result of
energetic collisions with atmospheric particles. Such evaporating
magnetic hole will form a cosmic-ray particle shower. Such showers are
observable.
Huge magnetic holes are also observable is cosmos.
In the remnants of supernova SN 1987A we can see a system of rings,
which remind us the magnetic hole. It is possible that this magnetic
hole is decaying now.
It seems as if these rings embrace a hyperboloid. And now look at the
electron, moving along two hyperboles in coordinates x, ict, in my
electron model program. Each electron crosses the entire Universe in a
period of time, which is equal to the classical period of the
electron. This paradoxical conclusion is the consequence of the
Special Relativity Theory. The ring structure of SN 1987A and our
electron model have common visible properties. The Earth and the Sun
can be turned into the same ring structure.
Magnetic collapse is much more rapid than the gravity collapse. At the
process of magnetic collapse the nucleon turns such, that its magnetic
dipole moment becomes parallel to the magnetic dipole moment of a
trap. Gravity collapse needs displacing of a matter inside the
Schwarzschild radius. The time interval of neutrino registration at
neutrino observatories had proved the reality of magnetic collapse of
dying stars.
Particle's collision energies and bombs:
Several eV - chemical bomb;
Several MeV - nuclear bomb;
Several TeV - hyper bomb.
Chemical bomb is accompanied by the change of chemical structure of
matter.
Nuclear bomb is accompanied by the change of nuclear structure of
matter.
Hyper bomb is accompanied by the transformation of solid matter into a
field.
Scientific crime.
Only crazy people can try to create the particles with the rest mass,
more than 1000 nucleon masses. It is very possible that in the region
from 1000 to 7000 aum, hundreds types of particles and resonances can
be created. It is clear, that the most of them will decay. But some of
them will grow, capturing the ordinary matter.
Academician Migdal wrote 30 years ago about pion condensation in the
strong fields. As a result he had come to conclusion that neutron
stars can have any masses. My approximate computation also shows that
the minimal possible neutron star can have a mass, about one thousand
of nucleon masses. Such embryo of neutron star can by made in
collider.
Not long ago the new strange unexpected particle was discovered at the
Tevatron collider. It decays at several muons, up to eight units.
Somebody had already named it the Halloween particle. I named it the
muon hole. What will be made the next? The magnetic trap of Devil? It
will not decay, but it will transform us into its magnetic field.
Majority of contemporary physicists imagine quark-gluon plasma as a
suck with peas. That is a very dangerous imagination. Particles are
not points with labels, where their quantum properties were written.
Particles are not the material essences, independent of space-time;
they are just space-time elements, strings.
Dear reader, the situation is extremely serious. The physics now is in
the deep crisis. Theorists, in order to save their religious Big Bang
theory, invented “the dark energy" as a new either. They want now to
test their wretched theories at the powerful Large Hadron Collider.
Those persons, with high ranks and high scientific degrees, who cry
about the safety of LHC, had already made a crime now. The LHC was
launched despite the fact that there were court trials. The Earth
could be exploded the 21 of September 2008, but the accident, which
had happened two days earlier, had saved us. Scientists-criminals must
be punished. But they continue to lie about the safety of the LHC, and
are preparing the global terrorist crime now.
Dear reader! Big Bang adherents can lead the Earth to the utter
destruction. Particle collisions with the energy more then 0.1 TeV
must be prohibited by the international law. The science must be
cleared from the Big Bang delusion. Big-bangers want to touch the
particle of God, but thus, they lead us into the magnetic trap of
Devil. People, will you silently endure the massacre?
eric gisse
[...]
Goddamn you are prolifically crazy.
Why don't you just light yourself on fire in front of an embassy? That'll
get you attention.
Autymn D. C.
more neutral as entropy rises, not more carical.
Holes are impossibil for the same reckth 1/0 is.
The beam is petakelvins hot, not near 0 K. When two withsmash, both
are still petakelvins, not near 0 K.
You are a shyster and owe me your life savings.
-Aut
Y.Porat
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> ATB
> Y.Porat
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please note that i am talking about
Proton Proton counter collision !
not Proton Anti Proton collision !!
ATB
Y.Porat
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