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Y.Porat

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Aug 23, 2008, 11:16:36 PM8/23/08
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I hereby call the scientists of LHC

that once the LHC starts to work
to look for traces of circular motion
that is unexplained by the current theories

for instance a much smaller or bigger radius of curvature
then expected etc

and then look at the abstract of my model
about
particles that move 'naturally' in closed circles
(if not disturbed on they way
if they are disturbed by colliding with some mass--- they recoil
back
to the revers circular direction)

'naturally' means
**there is no known force that is forcing them to move that
way **

and after that look at the abstract of my model
of the Atom and the nucleus at the
following link
including its appendix at the end of that abstract:

http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

TIA
Y.Porat
-----------------------------------

Uncle Al

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Aug 25, 2008, 11:38:09 AM8/25/08
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"Y.Porat" wrote:
>
> I hereby call the scientists of LHC
>
> that once the LHC starts to work
> to look for traces of circular motion
> that is unexplained by the current theories
[snip crap]

Idiot - the two beams are necked down to about micron diameter at
intersections. Do you in your profound ineducable ignorance really
believe that any factor degrading luminosity will be overlooked?

Porat, you are a boring jackass who sees a white dog turd, picks it
up, and starts "investigating." There is no white dog turd - there is
only you.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

Y.Porat

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Aug 25, 2008, 11:18:03 PM8/25/08
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On Aug 25, 6:38 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" wrote:
>
> > I hereby call the scientists of LHC
>
> > that once the LHC starts   to   work
> > to  look for traces of circular motion
> > that is unexplained by the current theories
>
> [snip crap]
>
> Idiot - the two beams are necked down to about micron diameter at
> intersections.  Do you in your profound ineducable ignorance really
> believe that any factor degrading luminosity will be overlooked?
>
> Porat, you are a boring jackass who sees a white dog turd, picks it
> up, and starts "investigating."  There is no white dog turd - there is
> only you.
>
> --
> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/

>  (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

------------------------
Hi old Fucker (Uncle Al )
first of all take your pills

secondly look in my link
provided that an old cracparroter can learn anything new :
it is

http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

especially at the appendix

provided that at your age and mental and physical position
you are still able to learn **anything** new

and to the other sober readers
please bypass the old justly frustrated crackparoter
(that ' invented'' ''a new system to create large diamonds
in his factory'' .....)

we can suppose that in the LHC they will see
too many things ('an Ocean' of things !!)

the problem is not to see and notice
only 'the old things you was 'told to see'
ie
some new things as well

and the problem is to connect what you see
with some new theory
and later to define it quantitatively as well !!

(and not only the old theories that fail for too long !!
like nonsense physics as particles that* have* and **dont have*
mas..)

to find as well new 'unexpected' thing
isn't that one the main goals of the LHC ??

besides
what can be the **great loss**'' by noticing
something that was not noticed before ??
even if it will ( at the worst case) - just fail to be notice ??

keep well
and TIA to LHC people
Y.Porat
----------------

holog

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Aug 26, 2008, 6:50:56 PM8/26/08
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the large hadron collider is a machine, is what it
produces(manufactures) all ready determined by its specifications?
therefore it will make what it was made to make.
the question is are these actually new particles or just manufactured ones?

or a little science fiction


did a group of aliens tell us how to make this ?

what is in the center of rotation of the LHC, the cern diagram just has
a compass, what does this really mean?


could it really make a wormhole which on the date dec. 21 2012, and
huge amounts of aliens will pore through and devour the world?


holog

Danny Milano

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Aug 26, 2008, 8:09:49 PM8/26/08
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On Aug 27, 6:50 am, holog <ho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> the large hadron collider is a machine, is what it
> produces(manufactures) all ready determined by its specifications?
> therefore it will make what it was made to make.
> the question is are these actually new particles or just manufactured ones?
>
> or   a little science fiction
>
> did a group of aliens tell us how to make this ?
>
> what is in the center of rotation of the LHC, the cern diagram just has
> a compass, what does this really mean?
>
> could it really make a wormhole which on the date dec. 21 2012, and
> huge amounts of aliens will pore through and devour the world?
>
> holog

Yes. We pastors suspect that would happen. The demons are quarantined
in a dimensional pocket. The LHC which will probe the extra
dimensions
and can open the portals and let the demons into this world
prematurely.
We are at this early already contemplating measures such as
destroying
the LHC facility, etc. before it goes into full operation next year.

Pastor Dan

>
>
>
> Y.Porat wrote:
> > I hereby call the scientists of LHC
>
> > that once the LHC starts   to   work
> > to  look for traces of circular motion
> > that is unexplained by the current theories
>
> > for instance a much   smaller or bigger  radius of curvature
> > then expected      etc
>
> > and then look at the abstract of my model
> > about
> > particles that move 'naturally' in closed circles
> > (if not disturbed on they way
> > if they are disturbed   by colliding with some mass--- they recoil
> > back
> > to   the revers circular direction)
>
> > 'naturally'  means
> > **there is no  known    force that is forcing them    to move that
> > way  **
>
> > and after that look at the abstract of my model
> > of the Atom and  the  nucleus at the
> > following link
> > including its appendix at the   end of that abstract:
>
> >http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
>
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat

> > ------------------------------------ Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Y.Porat

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Aug 26, 2008, 10:23:38 PM8/26/08
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On Aug 27, 1:50 am, holog <ho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> the large hadron collider is a machine, is what it
> produces(manufactures) all ready determined by its specifications?

not at all!!
if it was the case
**there was no reason to produce that machine!!!***

as far as i understand
is i s meant to find new particles as well !!!


> therefore it will make what it was made to make.
> the question is are these actually new particles or just manufactured ones?

-----------
yes indeed
there should be new 'natural particles
as wel as 'machine products as well

yet my point is to look for some
**SYSTEMATICAL TREND** OF PARTICLES NATURE
and my prediction is
that some** common systematical trend** should be

circular motion of some sub particles

TIA
Y.Porat
-------------------

Y.Porat

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Aug 26, 2008, 10:27:30 PM8/26/08
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----------------------
you demonic prediction might be with some unknown probability

but in case that your prediction will not happen
than
i suggest my prediction

ATB
Y.Porat
----------------------------------------

Eric Gisse

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Aug 26, 2008, 10:34:04 PM8/26/08
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On Aug 26, 6:23 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]

Where did this boundless confidence in your ideas come from since you
have no training in physics?

Danny Milano

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Aug 26, 2008, 10:37:14 PM8/26/08
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> ----------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Your prediction may not come true because the LHC may be
destroyed before it even starts operations. We pastors are still
collaborating with Christian leaders and the Vatican and
clandestine commando groups for this Operation Hell Gate
Shut. Meanwhile. Church ordained Exorcists are still determining
if the demons live in dimensions that is really close to ours
which the LHC may inadventently open. Stay tuned.

Pastor Dan

Y.Porat

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Aug 27, 2008, 1:45:43 AM8/27/08
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see the abstract of my model
young and even not young people like you

have no chance to 'get out the box'
in many cases it is just the 'outsider' that can do it
(no matter how painful it is for you personally ...)
any way
i am not exactly an 'outsider'
i am interested in physics since chieldhood
my mind was allways* open* and curious for any idea

and in addition i have some education as a structural engineer
with about 40 years of practical work
that you and like you will never have it in their life
will have a chance to get it
and in addition some circomstances of life that you
will never have it as well
and another thing
my good teachers thought us
'dont be a parrot' - always use your own judgment as well
always keep in mind that
'Hominum errata est '
and last but not least

advance can be achieved mainly by *trial and error *

so i was working on my model about 10 years
day and night nearly to exausture
making about 1000
sets of trial and error calcualtions
as you can see some of them in my ling
got it 1000 such calculations
and mind you
even th e most sophisticated computers
what they do is itteration- calculations- of trial and error
to get closer and closer to the target ie - the ** the experimental
data **
my education included as well Chemistry
that i doubt if young physicists of today get it

(the special circomstances of life'
enabled me to do it even too many times i was far from enjoing it
(in understatement ..) but went on and on persistantly
(another feature that i doubt if you have it )
because i had good indications about 'whats on stake'.....

and other factors and 'ingredients ' that i dont mention all of them
here
so
try to forget about your jealousy and preduditions
and keep you mind OPEN !!
even if you hear something from your personal enemy ....
btw
i an much more than 10 years in this ng.....and net
and mind you
you can learn somethings these days, from that as well
again by trial and error ....

Keep well
Eng. Y.Porat
---------------


hanson

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Aug 27, 2008, 2:52:58 AM8/27/08
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:23cf1e7f-821b-4406...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>>
"Y.Porat" wrote:
I hereby call the scientists of LHC that once the LHC starts
to work to look for traces of circular motion that is unexplained
by the current theories [ Uncle Al did a snip crap]

>
Uncle rect-Al Schwartz <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Idiot - the two beams are necked down to about micron
diameter at intersections. Do you in your profound ineducable
ignorance really believe that any factor degrading luminosity
will be overlooked?
Porat, you are a boring jackass who sees a white dog turd,
picks it up, and starts "investigating." There is no white dog
turd - there is only you.
>
hanson wrote:
rect-Al, as usual, you are wrong. There are over 110,000
google hits for -- -[white dog turds]- -- white because of
consumption of cheap dog food that contains excessive
amounts of bone meal filler, white Calcium phosphate.
>
However you indicated **empirically** that there are no
"white dog turds" in your rect-Al world. There are only
brown and dark ones to be "investigated" which you have
cussed at and cursed recently, by and in your ever so
eloquently performed Yiddishe street corner acts which
you have demonstrated right here on your own website:
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg

>
Yehiel Porat, in his response to uncle Al, wrote:
Hi old Fucker (Uncle Al )
first of all take your pills, secondly look in my link

provided that an old cracparroter can learn anything new :
it is
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
especially at the appendix provided that at your age
and mental and physical position you are still able to
learn **anything** new and to the other sober readers
please bypass the old justly frustrated crackparoter
(that ' invented'' ''a new system to create large diamonds
in his factory'' .....) we can suppose that in the LHC they
will see too many things ('an Ocean' of things !!)
the problem is not to see and notice only 'the old things
you was 'told to see' ie some new things as well and the
problem is to connect what you see with some new theory
and later to define it quantitatively as well !!
(and not only the old theories that fail for too long !!
like nonsense physics as particles that* have* and **dont have*
mas..) to find as well new 'unexpected' thing isn't that
one the main goals of the LHC ?? ... besides what can be

the **great loss**'' by noticing something that was not
noticed before ?? ... even if it will ( at the worst case) - just

fail to be notice ??
keep well and TIA to LHC people -- Y.Porat
>
hanson wrote:
Yehiel, old friend, don't get so bent out of shape over the
feeble performances of rect-Al's yiddisher street corner acts.
You must understand that it is very dark where he does his
rect-Al "investigating". That's him, right here in his rect-Al act,
investigating: http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg
>
You, OTOH, Yehiel, you have lit a candle instead of just
cursing the darkness with your fine attempt of treading
new lands and thinking independently as you've shown
in your http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
>
Therein you show the arrangements and architecture of sets
of atomic nuclei and how they may link, fit and sit to gether.
Now, AFA I can tell your brilliance has blinded you & led you
astray. All the experiments at LHC are geared to look deep
INTO the nuclei, where your theory almost certainly does not
apply. You look at 10^-8 cm ranges, whereas LHC fiddles at
and in the 10^-12 to 10^-14 cm domains.
>
If I were you, Yehi, I would concentrate your efforts, with your
theory, onto what they call **Island of Stability**, the search
for element 114 and higher ones. You may have something
very interesting going there. Check what kind of competing
neutron-proton arrangement theories there are and see
whether you can make better predictions for nucleo synthesis.
>.
Take care, Yehiel. BTW, I will post also about your political
post of a few days back. My heart felt heavy when I read
about your plight and worries. But march on, old friend.
hanson

Y.Porat

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Aug 27, 2008, 4:52:18 AM8/27/08
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On Aug 27, 9:52 am, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> it ishttp://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

-------------------
Thank you Hanson
i dont think you are right in asuming that i have nothing
to suggest about zooming into the basic of matter
because once you can zoon into places that no one before did
you find some basic rules that lie undeneath

the Circlon was not born in my mind
just out of the blue'

it was a result of my long research
it is actually hiding' behind any corner'
of my model
as well as the
'Chain of orbitals' idea
and i wonder how can you get a' chain of orbitals'
unless your particles are linear and sub built of smaller particles
2

the Circlon or alike is** inevitable** for any attraction force
i will elaborate on it later !!

3

about politics
just forget about it !!
it is not relevant and leading us to no where
at least not in science !!

keep well
your friend
Y.Porat
-----------------------

Eric Gisse

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Aug 27, 2008, 5:27:15 AM8/27/08
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On Aug 26, 9:45 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 27, 5:34 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 26, 6:23 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [snip]
>
> > Where did this boundless confidence in your ideas come from since you
> > have no training in physics?
>
> -------------
> see the abstract of my model
> young and even not young people like you
>
> have no chance to 'get out the box'
> in  many cases it is just the 'outsider' that can do it
> (no matter how painful it is for you personally ...)

Thinking outside the box is for smart people. You might have been
pretty bright in the past but your incoherent drivel, inability to
learn from mistakes, and general surlyness says to me that you are
getting senile.

> any way
> i am not exactly an 'outsider'
> i am interested in physics since chieldhood

Yet even though you are a solid half century older than me, you are
still unable to demonstrate a functional understanding of the concepts
prevalent in the subject.

> my mind was allways* open* and curious for any idea

Your mind is more like a fly trap. Crappy ideas get in....and never
leave. Too bad I can't get the proper spelling of words, proper
grammar, or punctuation to stick in that rat maze of a brain.

>
> and in addition i have some education  as a structural engineer

Which would be relevant....if you were crossposting to an engineering
newsgroup or were discussing a matter of engineering. Since you are
doing neither, your background in an *entirely* unrelated field is
irrelevant.

> with about 40   years of practical work
> that you and like you will never have it  in their life
> will have a chance to  get it
> and in addition some circomstances of life that you
> will never      have it as well
> and another thing
> my  good teachers thought us
> 'dont be a parrot'    - always use your own  judgment as well
> always keep in mind that
> 'Hominum errata est '
> and last but not least

All of which is interesting but irrelevant. Being old does not make
you wise in all things, nor does it make you right all the time. I'm
sure you have interesting things to say about plenty of things other
than physics.

>
> advance can be achieved mainly by  *trial and error *
>
> so i was working on my model about 10 years

...with no practical training in the field...

> day and night nearly to exausture

...because the product of a sleep deprived mind is always spun
gold....

> making about 1000
> sets of trial and error calcualtions

...with no practical training in the field, or the intelligence to
know when to quit...

> as you can see some of them in my ling
> got it   1000 such calculations
> and mind you
> even th e   most sophisticated computers
> what they do is itteration- calculations- of trial and error
> to get closer and closer to the target  ie - the ** the experimental
> data **
> my     education included as well   Chemistry

...but not physics...

Let us not forget that "education" in chemistry had you screaming for
3 years that you didn't believe lead had an equal number of protons
and electrons.

> that i doubt if young physicists of today get it

...because doubting is much simpler than looking at what a physics
student has to learn.

>
>  (the  special circomstances of life'
> enabled me to do it even too many  times i was far from enjoing it
> (in understatement ..) but went on  and on persistantly
> (another feature that i doubt if you have it )
> because i had good  indications about 'whats on stake'.....
>
> and other factors and 'ingredients '  that i dont  mention all of them
> here
> so
> try to forget about your jealousy  and preduditions
> and keep you mind  OPEN !!
> even if you hear something from your personal enemy ....
> btw
> i an much    more   than 10 years in this ng.....and   net

...and you still can't write a complete sentence.

Y.Porat

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Aug 27, 2008, 6:06:38 AM8/27/08
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---------------
ok give us **your link **
with
YOUR **NEW FINDINGS** OF A YOUNG CAPABLE MAN !!
(and may be some predictions for the LHC as well )

how about Higgs Bosons ??

anyway tell it to ** others**
go discuss with your kind of birds
in *their brilliant threads not here **
my patience with you was too long

and to other serious responsible people
please by pass the little psychopath crook

Y.Porat
--------------

Eric Gisse

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Aug 28, 2008, 5:14:49 PM8/28/08
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I care precious little about particle physics.

Will Janoschka

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Aug 30, 2008, 11:36:43 PM8/30/08
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:38:09, Uncle Al <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote:

> "Y.Porat" wrote:
> >
> > I hereby call the scientists of LHC
> >
> > that once the LHC starts to work
> > to look for traces of circular motion
> > that is unexplained by the current theories
> [snip crap]
>
> Idiot - the two beams are necked down to about micron diameter at
> intersections. Do you in your profound ineducable ignorance really
> believe that any factor degrading luminosity will be overlooked?
>
> Porat, you are a boring jackass who sees a white dog turd, picks it
> up, and starts "investigating." There is no white dog turd - there is
> only you.
>

Ok- Al is the next orthogonal dimensional quantity, brightness or
luminosity, not bitching just trying to learn?
-wiil-


Y.Porat

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On Aug 31, 6:36 am, wil...@nospam.pobox.com (Will Janoschka) wrote:
-----------------------------------
????????????????
can you elaborate your question ??

Y.Porat
-----------------

Will Janoschka

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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:48:35, "Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 31, 6:36ÿam, wil...@nospam.pobox.com (Will Janoschka) wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:38:09, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> > > [snip crap]
> >
> > > Idiot - the two beams are necked down to about micron diameter at

> > > intersections. ÿDo you in your profound ineducable ignorance really


> > > believe that any factor degrading luminosity will be overlooked?
> >
> > > Porat, you are a boring jackass who sees a white dog turd, picks it

> > > up, and starts "investigating." ÿThere is no white dog turd - there is


> > > only you.
> >
> > Ok- Al is the next orthogonal dimensional quantity, brightness or

> > ÿ ÿ ÿ luminosity, not bitching just trying to learn?
> > ÿ ÿ ÿ-wiil-


> -----------------------------------
> ????????????????
> can you elaborate your question ??
>
> Y.Porat
> -----------------

I can, but not to you. Al probably has a well reasoned answer.

hanson

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"Will Janoschka" <wil...@nospam.pobox.com> wrote in message
news:DmJ5SKFdRQph-p...@209-142-179-245.dyn.centurytel.net...
> "Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> wil...@nospam.pobox.com (Will Janoschka) wrote:

>> > Uncle rect-Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
>> > > [snip crap]
>> > > Idiot - the two beams are necked down to about micron diameter at
>> > > intersections. ÿDo you in your profound ineducable ignorance really
>> > > believe that any factor degrading luminosity will be overlooked?
>> > > Porat, you are a boring jackass who sees a white dog turd, picks it
>> > > up, and starts "investigating." ÿThere is no white dog turd - there
>> > > is only you.
>> >
>> wil...@nospam.pobox.com (Will Janoschka) wrote:
>> > Ok- Al is the next orthogonal dimensional quantity, brightness or
>> > ÿ ÿ ÿ luminosity, not bitching just trying to learn?
>> > ÿ ÿ ÿ-wiil-
>>
> "Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ????????????????
>> can you elaborate your question ??
>> Y.Porat
>> -----------------
>
"Will Janoschka" <wil...@nospam.pobox.com> wrote:
> I can, but not to you. Al probably has a well reasoned answer.
>
hanson wrote:
Yes, uncle rect-Al has a very "well reasoned answer"
which he always demonstrates here on his own website
and from which you apparently want to learn. So, do like
rect-Al does to find his answers and then just copy him:
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg
>
Yo, Yehiel,
Do you have an equation that describes your "circlon"?
hanson

Y

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Aug 31, 2008, 3:24:54 PM8/31/08
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On Aug 26, 1:38 am, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" wrote:
>
> > I hereby call the scientists of LHC
>
> > that once the LHC starts to work
> > to look for traces of circular motion
> > that is unexplained by the current theories
>
> [snip crap]
>
> Idiot - the two beams are necked down to about micron diameter at
> intersections. Do you in your profound ineducable ignorance really
> believe that any factor degrading luminosity will be overlooked?
>
> Porat, you are a boring jackass who sees a white dog turd, picks it
> up, and starts "investigating." There is no white dog turd - there is
> only you.
>
> --
> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/

> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

dude, you're addicted to usenet.

Y

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Aug 31, 2008, 3:27:36 PM8/31/08
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Yporat. . .


You need to find a way to be a better communicator. You can't leave
things open for people to need to "invent" their own reviews of your
data.

Y.y.Porat

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---------------
thanks but
still i dont understand what you are asking from me specifically !!
may be
just take a specific single example
and we can elaborate on it

(i can guess that my ideas and findings are so much innovative
that is is difficult to explain it to others
just in a few sentences )

TIA
Y.Porat
---------------------------

Y.Porat

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On Sep 1, 8:04 am, "Y.y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 31, 10:27 pm, Y <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 24, 1:16 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I hereby call the scientists ofLHC
>
> > > that once theLHCstarts   to   work

> > > to  look for traces ofcircularmotion
> > > that isunexplainedby the current theories

unexplained circular motion in LHC
can be for instance:
circular motion
*in a plan that is** parallel ** to the sides of the collider **??

TIA
Y.Porat
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BradGuth

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You're expecting the likes of DARPA Zionist/Nazi physics and weird
science to explain or much less share the whole truth and nothing but
the truth? Good luck with that.

LHC = God, and what could possibly go wrong with their 60 tonne He
Bomb.

It seems that far too many of us are having enough problems surviving
on Earth as is, much less affording to survive at any quality or
standard of life that you'd likely accept, and there's loads of spendy
stuff that hasn't exactly been going according to plan.

600 trillion protons per second colliding at nearly twice the speed of
light and surrounded by 60+ tonnes of thermal nuclear helium fuel is
not necessarily a good thing, unless you are trying to artificially
create another big bang of the black hole imploding kind of singular
event. There’s an old LHC related cartoon depicting what happens
next.

Mainstream truth-lag has never had it so good. Call it need to know
truth irony on steroids.

Here’s yet another good one for the old mainstream disinformation
gipper, as recently published in Popular Science, of where the DARPA
orchestrated and otherwise Zionist controlled mainstream media is
continually trying to snooker and dumbfound its way along.

“To get the resolution to the point where one pixel was the size of a
foot print, Hubble would need a primary mirror of 2,400 feet in
diameter”

Every 5th grader knows or at least by way of “no child left behind”
rights should know that the size of a primary mirror has nothing to do
with optical magnification or of its pixel resolution. GeoEye
offering 0.41 m, except applied at a low lunar orbit (say 65 km)
that’s rather easily doable, as such could image our physically dark
as coal Selene/moon as tighter than any Apollo moon-boot foot print
per pixel, or roughly 0.041 m/pixel (1.6”) of monochromatic
resolution. The USAF has actually had better than GeoEye optics and
cameras as of decades ago (similar to GeoEye 2) that could have given
us a tight lunar orbit offering 2.5 mm.

Btw, it seems our USAF still uses our physically dark as coal Selene/
moon as a gamma radiation target for testing and calibrating their in-
flight nuclear weapons tracking instrumentation. What exactly does
DARPA, Raytheon, TRW and our DoD know that we don’t?

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG


BradGuth

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Sep 20, 2008, 1:34:51 PM9/20/08
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I think they'll need a LeapFrog pop-up version of whatever you are
driving at, along with lots of spendy 3D animation and surround-sound
as ear and eye-candy.

BradGuth

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Hanson is of the Zionist/Nazi mindset, so perhaps you can understand
his/her faith-based LLPOF predicament.

~ BG

Y.Porat

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no answer for sick provocators .......

Y.P
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Y.Porat

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>   ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

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please dont join me *all along*
to the mainsteam physics

2
go see your psychiatrist

Y.Porat
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Don Stockbauer

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On Sep 20, 10:26 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 20, 8:31 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>

Unexplained circular movement at the LHC

Perhaps it's merely people enjoying some form of modern dance?

Y.Porat

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HA..............

HA.............

HA !!

good cleaver and productive joke !!
i dmire you Stockle (:-)

Y.P
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Y.Porat

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On Aug 31, 10:06 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
> "Will Janoschka" <wil...@nospam.pobox.com> wrote in message
>
> news:DmJ5SKFdRQph-p...@209-142-179-245.dyn.centurytel.net...
>
>
>
> > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>  wil...@nospam.pobox.com (Will Janoschka) wrote:
> >> > Uncle rect-Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> >> > > [snip crap]
> >> > > Idiot - the two beams are necked down to about micron diameter at
> >> > > intersections. ÿDo you in your profound ineducable ignorance really
> >> > > believe that any factor degrading luminosity will be overlooked?
> >> > > Porat, you are a boring jackass who sees a white dog turd, picks it
> >> > > up, and starts "investigating." ÿThere is no white dog turd - there
> >> > > is only you.
>
> >>  wil...@nospam.pobox.com (Will Janoschka) wrote:
> >> > Ok- Al is the next orthogonal dimensional quantity, brightness or
> >> > ÿ ÿ ÿ luminosity, not bitching just trying to learn?
> >> > ÿ ÿ ÿ-wiil-
>
> > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> ????????????????
> >> can you elaborate your question ??
> >> Y.Porat
> >> -----------------
>
> "Will Janoschka" <wil...@nospam.pobox.com> wrote:
> > I can, but not to you.  Al probably has a well reasoned answer.
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> Yes, uncle rect-Al has a very "well reasoned answer"
> which he always demonstrates here on his own website
> and from which you apparently want to learn. So, do like
> rect-Al does to find his answers and then just copy him:http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg
>
> Yo, Yehiel,
> Do you have an equation that describes your "circlon"?
> hanson- Hide quoted text -

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its radius can be
from the smallest t o universal size
its mass ??
the path is defined by the equation of a circle
with Radius r (ie any r)
or part of it ifit is disturbed on its way

'any r' i s one of its unique power !!

in attending any attraction force
from nuclear sizes as the "glueone'
to the gravitaion between galaxies !!
ie galaxy and inter galaxies sizes !!!

its mass ?
i dont know
i can just suggest and guess ---
the smallest mass of the photon:

3 times 10 exp-53 Kg

thank you Hanson for your apposite question

ATB
Y.Porat
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Don Stockbauer

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Thank you, Y. I'll try some more in the future.

Y.y.Porat

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i would like to add my response to Hanson
about some properties of the Circlon
to my OP Post
so here is my addition:

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Yo, Yehiel,
> Do you have an equation that describes your "circlon"?
> hanson- Hide quoted text -


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its radius *of movement!!) can be

BURT

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The circular movement is the flow of electrons around spherical
shells.

Mitch Raemsch

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