Re: Photon wave vs matter wave
Y.Porat
> On May 6, 11:36 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On 5/5/11 10:22 PM, Aaron wrote:
> > Electromagnetic field has waves and it produces photons. So
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> > > are electromagnetic wave the wave function of the photons?
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> > Ref:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#Wave.E2.80.93particle_duality_and...
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> > "Photons, like all quantum objects, exhibit both wave-like and
> > particle-like properties. Their dual wave–particle nature can be
> > difficult to visualize. The photon displays clearly wave-like phenomena
> > such as diffraction and interference on the length scale of its
> > wavelength. For example, a single photon passing through a double-slit
> > experiment lands on the screen exhibiting interference phenomena but
> > only if no measure was made on the actual slit being run across. To
> > account for the particle interpretation that phenomenon is called
> > probability distribution but behaves according to the Maxwell's
> > equations. However, experiments confirm that the photon is not a short
> > pulse of electromagnetic radiation; it does not spread out as it
> > propagates, nor does it divide when it encounters a beam splitter".
> > Rather, the photon seems to be a point-like particle since it is
> > absorbed or emitted as a whole by arbitrarily small systems, systems
> > much smaller than its wavelength, such as an atomic nucleus (≈10^−15 m
> > across) or even the point-like electron.
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> > "Nevertheless, the photon is not a point-like particle whose trajectory
> > is shaped probabilistically by the electromagnetic field, as conceived
> > by Einstein and others; that hypothesis was also refuted by the
> > photon-correlation experiments cited above. According to our present
> > understanding, the electromagnetic field itself is produced by photons,
> > which in turn result from a local gauge symmetry and the laws of quantum
> > field theory (see the Second quantization and Gauge boson sections below)".
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> > See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#Wave.E2.80.93particle_duality_and...
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> So photons have its own wave function that is not the electromagnetic
> wave.. yet photons produce electromagnetic wave.. now come how
> electrons or other particles don't produce electromagnetic waves?
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Electrons produce EM waves
WHILE THEY MOVE !!
(i guess it is because their 'friction' with other particles ??)
at 'rest' in the Atom they dont
Y.P
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cjcountess
Some of these guys have very complex ways of understanding and
explaining things. See if this helps. It is a new a controversial
theory put forth by myself so I would not recomend it being handed in
as a homework asignment but it is correct I am sure, and main stream
scientist are slowly but surely adopting idears such as this one.
See: http://gsjournal.net/science/countess.pdf
Also see, this if you have time, where I argue same point of view
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/11/21/confirmed-scient...
Tell me if it make sense to you.
The basic idea is that a photon wave turns into a matter wave
(electron),at the high end of the EM or electromagnetic spectrum,
because it is also the energy/matter spectrum, and that this can be
demonstrated geometrically, and is in direct agreement with currently
used mathematics and other evidence.
I truely think that this explains it clearly
Tell me your honest opinion
Conrad J Countess
Y.Porat
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see my abstract
you can steal a lot of ideas from there !!
(:-)
and no one will notice that you stole it ..
(:-)
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
that is only an abstact of my book
of 150 pages of dense information
and historic innnovations about structure
of matter
with an emphasis on Geometric innovative unprecedented
findings
see for instance at the appendix
the CIRCLON idea
a basic patrticle THAT MOVES NATURALLY
IN A CLOSED OR CIRCULAR PATH -
(if not disturbed on its way
and colliding with another Circlon !!)
no to mention my later findings
about
the photon has mass - the only mass !!
and
and '' Energy is mass in motion''
even in microcosm !!
and
NO MASS -** THE ONLY MASS** - NO REAL PHYSICS
etc etc
ATB
Y.Porat
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cjcountess
Why do people persist in chopping up these dialogs, re-ordering them,
and presenting things out of original content?
This happens too much and may be considered a dishonest attempt to
control the perspective and flow of the conversation.
Where is the original post??
Porat,
If you look at link and the corresponding dialog I picked it from, you
will see that I presented this idea on sci-phy dialogs back in 2005.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/c4ade7640fbb2c20?hl=en
You will also see that I differ from you in that I see all mass as
relative mass, including rest mass, and likewise also see the photon
as having a constant mass, which may be the only true constant mass
but which is still relative and derived from its motion or constant
speed of light “c”.
Conrad J Countess