Re: Physicist says Higgs Boson to be found by 2010!
Y.Porat
> On Aug 20, 4:25 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> > On Aug 20, 3:10 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > Anybody taking bets here? :-)
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> > << ...Ladbrokes
> > put the odds of finding the Higgs before 2010 at 6-1.
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> > “I’d be tempted to take a bet on the Higgs at 6-1,” says
> > Brian Foster who heads the particle physics group at the
> > University of Oxford in the UK. “I’ve been quite instrumental
> > in betting the taxpayers’ money on us finding it, so I’d better
> > put my money where my mouth is.” >>http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6331
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> > Sue...
>
> Sue, I would put my money on 100 to one agains the Higgs, since I've
> been watching these crackpot thereies emerge over 50 years, and never
> once have one to achieve validation as a scientific fact.
>
> Then too, I admit that I have made other errors, like purchasing Xerox
> stock in 1969.
>
> Harry C.
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harry C
that is the first time i my life i see you doing a right bet
moreover
a bet that is against *the 'establishment parroting **!!
The giggs bosom willnot be found in 2011 and not in 3011
and not in 4011 !!
it is nonsense physics
because
no mass no real physics *even not for a farction of a second !!
waht they should find is something of the' Circlon' idea particle
ie
a very basic particle that moves naturally in a closed circle
(ifnot disturbed on its way)
ie
they will find something like rings curling
now one will say
why wonder ? it is found in magnetic fields !!
but these creatures
are not charged electrically and there is no reason they will curl
in a magnetic field
they are the **creators of fields **!!
and they are 'alleged **not* to have mass'
but that 'having no mass'
is going to die once and for all even in that LHC experiments
look at the 'Circlon' particle idea at the appendix of my link :
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
TIA
Y.Porat
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TIA
Y.Porat
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Thomas Heger
"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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On Aug 21, 12:32 am, "hhc...@yahoo.com" <hhc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 4:25 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> > On Aug 20, 3:10 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > Anybody taking bets here? :-)
>
I bet this will happen:
They switch the machine on and get massive particle showers and all of them
are known.
What will puzzle them is the shear amount of particles and that the shower
contain more protons than they have collided.
And it will not fit into a particle-antiparticle scheme. So there will be
more particles than antiparticles created, what will raise a few questions.
TH
Y.Porat
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:61d60050-84a8-4673...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
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?????
it seems that you are trying to 'hold the long stretched string
by **both of its edges ** !!!
how about a clear bet ??
mine is NO !!! not a chance !!
you will find your mother in law there before that !!
unless some cheating as too often occurs
ATB
Y.Porat
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frank...@yahoo.com
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:61d60050-84a8-4673...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I would agree with your bet. My own theories indicate that the
particles that get formed in accelerator experiments are actually
kicked out of the aether which is nothing more than a sea of positrons
and electrons. I'd say our current accelerators have enough energy to
produce all possible interesting results. Maybe they might find a few
odd-ball particles, but certainly nothing to match the Higgs particle.
My model of the universe only includes positrons and electrons. You
can read how these are the only required particles in:
http://www.geocities.com/franklinhu/quarks.html
This is part of my theory of everything which I think you would enjoy
since you seem to want to see a sensible mechanical view of physics,
rather than a hocus - pocus magic solution.
http://www.geocities.com/franklinhu/theory.html
I am interested in your statement that more protons will be produced.
I think this will be true due to the fact that matter must be favored
over anti-matter production in order for matter to dominate the
universe. I suspect that this is already happening in accelerator
experiments if someone looked for it.
fhuquarks
Y.Porat
> On Aug 22, 8:34 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > IIRC didn't either Fermilab or CERN report that they detected signs of
> > > some sort of activity at the upper boundary of their energy range a
> > > few years back?
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> > ------------------
> > so what is your bet ???
> > it is great to make bets before the game and not after it ...
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> > Y.Porat
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> I think he's trying to determine his odds right now. So were those
> early signals from Fermilab and earlier CERN the first indications of
> the Higgs, or were they something else?
>
> Yousuf Khan
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Lets think !!
do you think that finding a particle (an **invited one....**!!)
with the probability of a few billions to one
AMONG OTHER THOUSANDS of 'unwanted particles '
not to mention cases in which
the 'founded' particle is not at all
**in the environment it is supposed to be **!!
is it finding a particle
or or is it cheating ??
TIA
Y.Porat
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Y.Porat
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in my model and research that you saw before a few years
i also
found that energy losses(Binding energies ) can be subdivided to
samller and smaller
quanta parts untill we get the mass of the electron or positron
so
th e 'all electron' theory
is as well **compatible with my findings **
see again my link:
with some care to the' binding energy' there
which i didnt reveal all of them there .....
it is only in my book .....
even i mentioned the the' electron connection' there
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstarct
ATB
Y.Porat
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Y.Porat
sorry as usual i mistyped it:
so
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-absrtact
just a damn little switch of the letter a ....
that Internet typing
is not a business for an old clumsy man (:-)
ATB
Y.Porat
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Y.Porat
again a mistype:
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
Y.P
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