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amdx

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Jul 23, 2008, 1:42:48 PM7/23/08
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I received this link in a letter from the American Academy of Anti-Aging
Medicine

http://www.quantumstim.com/about/

Some of what I see in their emails seems legitimate, but this....

It matches the magnetic frequencies and intensities found in the earth's own
field
Ownership of an MRS 2000+ designo MED System enables you to:
a.. Support and accelerate the healing of wounds and injuries, from tennis
elbow to Achille's tendonitis, to cuts, bruises, burns, bursitis, sprains,
stress fractures and other sports injuries.
b.. Improve circulation and the delivery of oxygen to the brain, vital
organs, and virtually every cell of your body. This has a significantly
regenerative, anti-aging effect and includes enhancement of nitric oxide
metabolism. (Hint: Nitric oxide is the active ingredient in Viagra.)
c.. Prevent illness by improving cellular communication through magnetic
resonance.
d.. Eliminate stress and enjoy faster, more complete healing of injury
through deep, restorative sleep.
e.. Feel more energy and endurance in your body every day.
f.. Get rapid relief from joint pain.
g.. Promote optimum nerve function and health.
h.. Relieve neck and shoulder tension and persistent hip pain.
Oh and it's only $2895.00, though we're pretty sure you'll want, and need,
the Probe applicator for all the powerful benefits it provides!

(I guess that's extra, MK)

Comments?
Mike


James Arthur

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Jul 23, 2008, 3:03:57 PM7/23/08
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Specific LED wavelengths, interestingly, (allegedly) promote
healing of diabetic foot ulcers and certain injuries. FDA
approved. Highly recommended by the people that sell them. :-)

http://www.usaweekend.com/02_issues/020113/020113scientists.html

Magnetism? Nahh. Credit Mesmer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Mesmer

Cheers,
James Arthur

John Larkin

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Jul 23, 2008, 5:02:32 PM7/23/08
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Crap. The earth's mag field is so close to static it doesn't matter.
The best way to get exposed to alternating magnetic fields is by
moving in a static field, which has proven health benefits; it's
called exercize.

John

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

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Jul 23, 2008, 6:07:49 PM7/23/08
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The only variable natural mag fields occur on day/night boundaries, with
aurora phenomena, and Schumann resonances. If they are matching
intensities the fields will be so low you won't be able to measure then
with normal equipment.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
Remote Viewing classes in London

Martin Griffith

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Jul 23, 2008, 6:19:55 PM7/23/08
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What about abnormal equipment?
examples, URL's ?


martin

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

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Jul 23, 2008, 7:27:30 PM7/23/08
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MooseFET

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Jul 23, 2008, 8:30:42 PM7/23/08
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On Jul 23, 3:07 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> John Larkin wrote:


There are short term variations throughout the day on the order of 0.1
to 1.0nT p-p. Short term in this case means in the 1 second time
frame. A magnetic storm can make a change of 100nT over several
seconds.

All of these are way smaller that you would produce just by taking a
few steps or turning around.

mi...@sushi.com

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Jul 23, 2008, 11:34:12 PM7/23/08
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A bit OT, but any idea why compasses are inaccurate in certain
locations as indicated on aviation sectional? Here is an example:
http://www.lazygranch.com/temp/magnetic_disturbance.gif

John Larkin

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Jul 23, 2008, 11:40:41 PM7/23/08
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Which is why the ELF-cancer thing is so improbable. Moving around in
the earth's static field, talking, chewing, blinking your eyes, all
create relatively huge AC fields.

John

Robert Baer

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Jul 24, 2008, 1:50:18 AM7/24/08
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amdx wrote:

Does it also waddle like a DUCK (quack..quack..quack)?

Robert Baer

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Jul 24, 2008, 1:52:04 AM7/24/08
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John Larkin wrote:

well...do not forget "whistlers" as created by lightning..

Robert Baer

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Jul 24, 2008, 1:53:07 AM7/24/08
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well, a decent sized loop antenna will pick up whistlers..

Robert Baer

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Jul 24, 2008, 1:55:49 AM7/24/08
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mi...@sushi.com wrote:

Probably local magnetic deposits or localized lack therof in large
area that has deposits.
Do not forget that there is a VERTICAL component also...

Robert Baer

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Jul 24, 2008, 1:57:04 AM7/24/08
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John Larkin wrote:

But...but...those elfs are sneaky - almost as bad as those purple
people eaters..

James Arthur

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Jul 24, 2008, 4:51:11 AM7/24/08
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Dan pointed out a more likely explanation of cancer-clusters
near power lines: leaked PCBs.

Cheers,
James Arthur

Martin Brown

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Jul 24, 2008, 4:58:14 AM7/24/08
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Cures all known ills. The last notable thing to make these claims and a
few more besides was ozonated snake oil butter. It is amusing to see
that they claim these things are "popular" in Europe. Never heard of
them before.

I did look for their website and it is as professional as you would
expect for this sort of company (in case they fix it I will point out
here that their FAQ has 21 questions of which only Q1 is answered. The
rest is boilerplate.

And Q21 is the most telling: How does the compensation plan work?

http://www.2000mrs.com/faqs.php
(this is most definitely not a product recommendation)

CAVEAT EMPTOR! Buyer Beware. Doesn't your FDA or advertising standards
watchdog have some teeth to go after merchants ripping off the worried
well or worse vulnerable sick people for a "remedy" that cannot be
demonstrated to work. I suppose the placebo effect may help some of them.

On the positive side it probably won't do you any harm the Earth's
magnetic field is mostly static, except at high latitudes during solar
storms. Then you can get coherent effects acting across a continent
enough to trip out the Canadian national grid but over a couple of
metres it is nothing special.

Matching the frequencies and amplitudes of the Earths magnetic field
will do nothing useful. If you believe in it enough it might work for
you. But an old shoebox painted your favourite colour would be just as
efficacious and a lot cheaper. The kit flogs for around $3k apparently,
which is a lot to pay for a weedy triangle wave generator, although the
prices are on a different URL. Suspicious that...

Regards,
Martin Brown
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

MooseFET

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Jul 24, 2008, 9:28:49 AM7/24/08
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Magnetic materials in the geology change the direction of the local
field. The closer you get to the magnetic poles, the bigger the
effect. The field looks like the classic lines of force around a bar
magnet. As you get near the poles, the angle gets more vertical.
This means that a less magnetic body will have a larger effect.

Near San Fransisco, the field is at an angle of about 63 degrees.
This means that there is more vertical than horizontal field. There
will be a lot of contrasts between the magnetic properties of the
different rocks.


MooseFET

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Jul 24, 2008, 9:31:13 AM7/24/08
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On Jul 23, 8:40 pm, John Larkin

Besides, we know that 50 or 60 Hz radiation is good for you. People
who live in places with power lines live longer than people in places
without them. Why would something that is good for you cause
cancer? :)

>
> John

MooseFET

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Jul 24, 2008, 9:33:15 AM7/24/08
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The most likely explanation is the operation of just random
statistics. Try plotting any random function and then looking at it
later. There are always some very unlikely things in the plot.

>
> Cheers,
> James Arthur

MooseFET

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Jul 24, 2008, 9:42:44 AM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 1:58 am, Martin Brown <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
[....]

>
> CAVEAT EMPTOR! Buyer Beware. Doesn't your FDA or advertising standards
> watchdog have some teeth to go after merchants ripping off the worried
> well or worse vulnerable sick people for a "remedy" that cannot be
> demonstrated to work.

Gasp! What and interfere with the sacred Free Market. Oh no we can't
do that.

> On the positive side it probably won't do you any harm the Earth's
> magnetic field is mostly static, except at high latitudes during solar
> storms. Then you can get coherent effects acting across a continent
> enough to trip out the Canadian national grid but over a couple of
> metres it is nothing special.

It is those little variations that are important. The magnetic field
from a radio station is much much smaller than the earths field and
yet I can hear the music coming out of the radio in the bed room.
Since we started radiating those little magnetic fields, life
expectancy has increased rapidly.

amdx

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:06:16 PM7/24/08
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A bit OT, but any idea why compasses are inaccurate in certain
locations as indicated on aviation sectional? Here is an example:
http://www.lazygranch.com/temp/magnetic_disturbance.gif

I have a local bridge that I drive over, at one part of the bridge my
compass
rotates by 45*.
Mike


John Larkin

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:08:50 PM7/24/08
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Or the fact that poor people tend to live near power lines, and that
power lines tend to run near highways, where particulates are
especially dense.

John

amdx

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:12:31 PM7/24/08
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>There are short term variations throughout the day on the order of 0.1
>to 1.0nT p-p. Short term in this case means in the 1 second time
>frame. A magnetic storm can make a change of 100nT over several
>seconds.

>All of these are way smaller that you would produce just by taking a
>few steps or turning around.

That is why I posted, I thought the earths magnetic field was fairly static
and there was no way their device was going to, in their words,


"It matches the magnetic frequencies and intensities found in the earth's
own field"

Just like to point out snake oil salesmen.
Mike


Paul Hovnanian P.E.

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Jul 24, 2008, 5:10:48 PM7/24/08
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amdx wrote:
>
> I received this link in a letter from the American Academy of Anti-Aging
> Medicine
>
> http://www.quantumstim.com/about/
>
> Some of what I see in their emails seems legitimate, but this....
>
> It matches the magnetic frequencies and intensities found in the earth's own
> field

The earth's magnetic field has a fundamental frequency of about 0.6E-13
Hz. That's a period of about 500,000 years.

Tell these people to measure the frequency over 10 periods, take an
average value and adjust the unit as necessary.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
------------------------------------------------------------------
Trust the computer industry to shorten the term "Year 2000" to Y2K.
It was this kind of thinking that got us in trouble in the first place.
-- Adrian Tyvand

James Arthur

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Jul 24, 2008, 6:22:26 PM7/24/08
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Excluded by the epidemiologists, you'd figure. They're not dummies.

James Arthur

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

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