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Man of Mind
Apr 10, 2013, 7:48:01 PM4/10/13
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On 4/10/2013 1:46 PM, "steve" was desperately whining again:
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:11:15 -0500, Man of Mind pointed out to:
>>
>> On 4/10/2013 8:16 AM, faulty sham <wsjam...@gmail.com> sniveled:
...
>>> Steve has proven you wrong on this
>>
>> Nope, you're completely wrong. "steve" has it ass-backwards, kid..
>>
>> http://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>>
>> "A moving charge always has both a magnetic and an electric field,
>> and that�s precisely the reason why they are associated with each
>> other."
>>
>> Okay, read that again, "faulty", it's the point you're missing..
>>
>> "A moving charge always has both a magnetic and an electric field,
>> and that�s precisely the reason why they are associated with each
>> other."
>>
>> http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-02sc-physics-ii-electricity-and-magnetism-fall-2010/capacitance-capacitors-energy-stored-in-capacitors/MIT8_02SC_notes10to11.pdf
>>
>> 5.6 Creating Electric Fields
>>
>> "Electric fields are created by electric charge. If there
>> is no electric charge present, and there never has been
>> any electric charge present in the past, then there would
>> be no electric field anywhere [in] space."
>>
>> That's where your lazy 'google' searching has misled you..
>
> <CHUCKLE> and yet the real experts, universities and NASA
Falsely appealing to authority again, "steve"?
Too bad you won't admit to your own confusion, it makes you
look weak-minded and petty, not just ambitiously ignorant..
Transcript of Man of Mind schooling Steve Canyon, a synopsis:
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-02sc-physics-ii-electricity-and-magnetism-fall-2010/capacitance-capacitors-energy-stored-in-capacitors/MIT8_02SC_notes10to11.pdf
5.6 Creating Electric Fields
"Electric fields are created by electric charge. If there
is no electric charge present, and there never has been
any electric charge present in the past, then there would
be no electric field anywhere [in] space."
But, I keep forgetting, you don't even know what a conductor is..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_conduction#In_metals
"A metal consists of a lattice of atoms, each with an
outer shell of electrons which freely dissociate from
their parent atoms and travel through the lattice.
This is also known as a positive ionic lattice. This
'sea' of dissociable electrons allows the metal to
conduct electric current.
When an electrical potential difference (a voltage) is
applied across the metal, the resulting electric field
causes electrons to move from one end of the conductor
to the other."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field
"Magnetic fields are produced by moving electric charges
and the intrinsic magnetic moments of elementary particles
associated with a fundamental quantum property, their spin."
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
"Magnetic fields also generate power in particles which come
in contact with it. Electric fields are generated around
particles that bear electric charge. Positive charges are
drawn towards it, while negative charges are repelled.
A moving charge always has both a magnetic and an electric field,
and that�s precisely the reason why they are associated with each
other."
"They are two different fields with nearly the same characteristics.
Therefore, they are inter-related in a field called the
electromagnetic field. In this field, the electric field
and the magnetic field move at right angles to each other.
However, they are not dependant on each other. They may also
exist independently. Without the electric field, the magnetic
field exists in permanent magnets and electric fields exist
in the form of static electricity, in absence of the magnetic
field.
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-02sc-physics-ii-electricity-and-magnetism-fall-2010/faradays-law/MIT8_02SC_notes21.pdf
10.3 Induced Electric Field
"Faraday�s law shows that as magnetic flux changes with time,
an induced current begins to flow. What causes the charges
to move? It is the induced emf which is the work done per
unit charge. However, since magnetic field can do [no] work,
as we have shown in Chapter 8, the work done on the mobile
charges must be electric, and the electric field in this
situation cannot be conservative because the line integral
of a conservative field must vanish."
Indeed, "conservatives" do appear to be 'vanishing' and
since Nature abhors a vacuum, right-wing retards are
taking their place.
Deal with it, "stevo".. *>LOL!<*
--
From: Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:22:30 -0400
Message-ID: <h0lob6dote71d0u9j...@4ax.com>
"In a capacitor, attraction of unlike charges build up
across the dielectric. as a result of the electromagnetic
force."
"Electromagnetic force is what makes current flow into
a capacitor (charging) and it's what makes current flow
out (discharging)"
From: Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:37:55 -0400
Message-ID: <qjkqb6h5aeanvjlfq...@4ax.com>
"Anyone that thinks electromagnetic force is not the force that exists
in a charged capacitor is simply ignorant on the subject.."
Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:38:18 -0500
Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com>
"any and all capacitors work on the principal of magnetism...."
Mon, 12 Aug 2002 03:30:14 GMT
Steven Canyon <Ga...@dog.soldiers>
news:<og8elu4eaudlftq93...@4ax.com>
"I never made any claims I couldn't back up...."
Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:11:30 GMT
Canyon <steven...@nospam.yahoo.com>
news:<i4tp5v4c5ulhakvei...@4ax.com>
"I don't need to prove anything.."
Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:36:15 -0500
Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com>
news: <cejm945eqt2hspb4k...@4ax.com>
"I don't need to back anything up, you moron, cause unlike
yourself, my self image is not dependent on what others
think about me."
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:11:15 -0500, Man of Mind pointed out to:
>>
>> On 4/10/2013 8:16 AM, faulty sham <wsjam...@gmail.com> sniveled:
...
>>> Steve has proven you wrong on this
>>
>> Nope, you're completely wrong. "steve" has it ass-backwards, kid..
>>
>> http://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>>
>> "A moving charge always has both a magnetic and an electric field,
>> and that�s precisely the reason why they are associated with each
>> other."
>>
>> Okay, read that again, "faulty", it's the point you're missing..
>>
>> "A moving charge always has both a magnetic and an electric field,
>> and that�s precisely the reason why they are associated with each
>> other."
>>
>> http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-02sc-physics-ii-electricity-and-magnetism-fall-2010/capacitance-capacitors-energy-stored-in-capacitors/MIT8_02SC_notes10to11.pdf
>>
>> 5.6 Creating Electric Fields
>>
>> "Electric fields are created by electric charge. If there
>> is no electric charge present, and there never has been
>> any electric charge present in the past, then there would
>> be no electric field anywhere [in] space."
>>
>> That's where your lazy 'google' searching has misled you..
>
> <CHUCKLE> and yet the real experts, universities and NASA
Falsely appealing to authority again, "steve"?
Too bad you won't admit to your own confusion, it makes you
look weak-minded and petty, not just ambitiously ignorant..
Transcript of Man of Mind schooling Steve Canyon, a synopsis:
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-02sc-physics-ii-electricity-and-magnetism-fall-2010/capacitance-capacitors-energy-stored-in-capacitors/MIT8_02SC_notes10to11.pdf
5.6 Creating Electric Fields
"Electric fields are created by electric charge. If there
is no electric charge present, and there never has been
any electric charge present in the past, then there would
be no electric field anywhere [in] space."
But, I keep forgetting, you don't even know what a conductor is..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_conduction#In_metals
"A metal consists of a lattice of atoms, each with an
outer shell of electrons which freely dissociate from
their parent atoms and travel through the lattice.
This is also known as a positive ionic lattice. This
'sea' of dissociable electrons allows the metal to
conduct electric current.
When an electrical potential difference (a voltage) is
applied across the metal, the resulting electric field
causes electrons to move from one end of the conductor
to the other."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field
"Magnetic fields are produced by moving electric charges
and the intrinsic magnetic moments of elementary particles
associated with a fundamental quantum property, their spin."
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
"Magnetic fields also generate power in particles which come
in contact with it. Electric fields are generated around
particles that bear electric charge. Positive charges are
drawn towards it, while negative charges are repelled.
A moving charge always has both a magnetic and an electric field,
and that�s precisely the reason why they are associated with each
other."
"They are two different fields with nearly the same characteristics.
Therefore, they are inter-related in a field called the
electromagnetic field. In this field, the electric field
and the magnetic field move at right angles to each other.
However, they are not dependant on each other. They may also
exist independently. Without the electric field, the magnetic
field exists in permanent magnets and electric fields exist
in the form of static electricity, in absence of the magnetic
field.
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-02sc-physics-ii-electricity-and-magnetism-fall-2010/faradays-law/MIT8_02SC_notes21.pdf
10.3 Induced Electric Field
"Faraday�s law shows that as magnetic flux changes with time,
an induced current begins to flow. What causes the charges
to move? It is the induced emf which is the work done per
unit charge. However, since magnetic field can do [no] work,
as we have shown in Chapter 8, the work done on the mobile
charges must be electric, and the electric field in this
situation cannot be conservative because the line integral
of a conservative field must vanish."
Indeed, "conservatives" do appear to be 'vanishing' and
since Nature abhors a vacuum, right-wing retards are
taking their place.
Deal with it, "stevo".. *>LOL!<*
--
From: Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:22:30 -0400
Message-ID: <h0lob6dote71d0u9j...@4ax.com>
"In a capacitor, attraction of unlike charges build up
across the dielectric. as a result of the electromagnetic
force."
"Electromagnetic force is what makes current flow into
a capacitor (charging) and it's what makes current flow
out (discharging)"
From: Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:37:55 -0400
Message-ID: <qjkqb6h5aeanvjlfq...@4ax.com>
"Anyone that thinks electromagnetic force is not the force that exists
in a charged capacitor is simply ignorant on the subject.."
Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:38:18 -0500
Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com>
"any and all capacitors work on the principal of magnetism...."
Mon, 12 Aug 2002 03:30:14 GMT
Steven Canyon <Ga...@dog.soldiers>
news:<og8elu4eaudlftq93...@4ax.com>
"I never made any claims I couldn't back up...."
Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:11:30 GMT
Canyon <steven...@nospam.yahoo.com>
news:<i4tp5v4c5ulhakvei...@4ax.com>
"I don't need to prove anything.."
Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:36:15 -0500
Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com>
news: <cejm945eqt2hspb4k...@4ax.com>
"I don't need to back anything up, you moron, cause unlike
yourself, my self image is not dependent on what others
think about me."
Man of Mind
Apr 10, 2013, 8:00:22 PM4/10/13
to
On 4/10/2013 1:46 PM, "steve" was still knee-jerking when:
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:25:00 -0500, Man of Mind elicited another knee-jerk from:
>>
>> On 4/10/2013 8:34 AM, "steve" was still knee-jerking when:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:55:35 -0500, Man of Mind elicited another knee-jerk from:
>>>>
>>>> On 4/10/2013 7:10 AM, "steve" was knee-jerking to the replies from:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 06:41:37 -0500, Man of Mind elicited a knee-jerk from:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/10/2013 6:17 AM, "steve" was knee-jerking to the replies from:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:55:13 -0500, Man of Mind elicited a knee-jerk from:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/9/2013 7:31 PM, "steve" was knee-jerking to the replies from:
.........
>>>>>>>>> ...and yet they say the opposite
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, read it again, move your lips if it helps you..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope,
>>>>>
>>>>> I see the UC Davis site still says "according to Faraday's law, a
>>>>> changing magnetic field can create an electric field."
>>>>
>>>> I see that your grade-school "google scholarship' failed you..
>>>
>>> Good, then
>>
>> Still whining about how your got embarrassed by your grade
>> school "google" searches, "steve"? Let it go, since you're
>> too cowardly to admit your mistakes. It's only going to get
>> worse if you keep running away from your own mistakes and
>> bad judgment..
>
> But
Sorry, but it's all dependent upon your behavior, "steve"..
--
"The only time capacitors are doing anything they have significant
magnetic fields"
Steven Canyon <Ga...@dog.soldiers>
Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:57:55 GMT
"Coulomb's Law " Like charges repel, unlike charges attract.
that's what makes curent flow, dummy...."
kicking hippies <steven...@yahoo.com>
"any and all capacitors work on the principal of magnetism...."
Steven Canyon <Ga...@dog.soldiers>
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:25:00 -0500, Man of Mind elicited another knee-jerk from:
>>
>> On 4/10/2013 8:34 AM, "steve" was still knee-jerking when:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:55:35 -0500, Man of Mind elicited another knee-jerk from:
>>>>
>>>> On 4/10/2013 7:10 AM, "steve" was knee-jerking to the replies from:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 06:41:37 -0500, Man of Mind elicited a knee-jerk from:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/10/2013 6:17 AM, "steve" was knee-jerking to the replies from:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:55:13 -0500, Man of Mind elicited a knee-jerk from:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/9/2013 7:31 PM, "steve" was knee-jerking to the replies from:
.........
>>>>>>>>> ...and yet they say the opposite
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, read it again, move your lips if it helps you..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope,
>>>>>
>>>>> I see the UC Davis site still says "according to Faraday's law, a
>>>>> changing magnetic field can create an electric field."
>>>>
>>>> I see that your grade-school "google scholarship' failed you..
>>>
>>> Good, then
>>
>> Still whining about how your got embarrassed by your grade
>> school "google" searches, "steve"? Let it go, since you're
>> too cowardly to admit your mistakes. It's only going to get
>> worse if you keep running away from your own mistakes and
>> bad judgment..
>
> But
Sorry, but it's all dependent upon your behavior, "steve"..
--
"The only time capacitors are doing anything they have significant
magnetic fields"
Steven Canyon <Ga...@dog.soldiers>
Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:57:55 GMT
"Coulomb's Law " Like charges repel, unlike charges attract.
that's what makes curent flow, dummy...."
kicking hippies <steven...@yahoo.com>
"any and all capacitors work on the principal of magnetism...."
Mon, 12 Aug 2002 03:30:14 GMT
news:<og8elu4eaudlftq93...@4ax.com>
Man of Mind
Apr 10, 2013, 11:20:25 PM4/10/13
to
On 4/10/2013 9:39 PM, faulty sham <wsjam...@gmail.com> whimpered:
>
> Man of Mind was exploiting the sociopathy exhibited by:
>>
>> On 4/10/2013 4:52 PM, faulty sham <wsjam...@gmail.com> whimpered at:
>>>
>>> On Apr 10, 5:14 pm, Man of Mind patiently explained to:
>>>>
>>>> On 4/10/2013 3:34 PM, faulty sham <wsjam...@gmail.com> sniveled:
....
>>>> In fact, when I posted a problems set, to demonstrate the relation
>>>> between electric and magnetic fields, for a comparison that you
>>>> apparently couldn't begin to understand, you complained that you
>>>> didn't have sufficient education to solve such elementary E&M
>>>> questions.. Something about you not having but one semester
>>>> of general physics, as I recall..
>>>>
>>>> So why do you think that your opinion of "steve's" 'proof'
>>>> would carry [any] weight with me, or anyone else, you shambling
>>>> idiot? I mean "Once you're proven wrong", your own advise
>>>> is to quit whining and complaining, right?
>>>
>>> Actually, I really don't care what you think.
>>
>> In fact, you really don't like thinking, at all, correct?
>>
>>> Advice that you should seriously consider taking
>>
>> Nope, you first, whining IT boy..
>>
>>> I was actually trying to help you stop making a fool of yourself.
>>
>> Well, you're not very good at anything beside making gross
>> errors in grammar, physics and higher mathematics, and then
>> pretending to be very smug about yourself..
>
> More projection on
Your part, yes, and don't forget your multiple 'nyms,
where you once pretended to be a PhD in Chemistry.
> Once again, I would like you to explain why it is
That you can't even solve your own "psychics problems",
because you mixed SI with English measurement systems,
and could barely make it through your own equations,
in several instances, without 'blotching' it up?
Well, I'm certain that your dyslexia played a part in
that, though you seem to prefer not to mention it..
--
"Unless you're trying to incinerate "false precision", which is the
term that engineers actually use."
"when you've been beated in an argument, or had some of your
errors corrected in public, the best thing to do to admit your
mistake and move on."
"your inability to grasp complex concepts confirm that you simply
don't have the competence to don't warrant a serious debate."
"Did you know that Rush listener are on average, better education
and more intelligence that the population at large?"
"If you were to ball a ball 500 miles above the Earth's surface"
"Oh, the units are in energy - kg x ft^2/sec^2"
"Anyway, I didn't even bother to out in the units in the equation"
>
> Man of Mind was exploiting the sociopathy exhibited by:
>>
>> On 4/10/2013 4:52 PM, faulty sham <wsjam...@gmail.com> whimpered at:
>>>
>>> On Apr 10, 5:14 pm, Man of Mind patiently explained to:
>>>>
>>>> On 4/10/2013 3:34 PM, faulty sham <wsjam...@gmail.com> sniveled:
....
>>>> In fact, when I posted a problems set, to demonstrate the relation
>>>> between electric and magnetic fields, for a comparison that you
>>>> apparently couldn't begin to understand, you complained that you
>>>> didn't have sufficient education to solve such elementary E&M
>>>> questions.. Something about you not having but one semester
>>>> of general physics, as I recall..
>>>>
>>>> So why do you think that your opinion of "steve's" 'proof'
>>>> would carry [any] weight with me, or anyone else, you shambling
>>>> idiot? I mean "Once you're proven wrong", your own advise
>>>> is to quit whining and complaining, right?
>>>
>>> Actually, I really don't care what you think.
>>
>> In fact, you really don't like thinking, at all, correct?
>>
>>> Advice that you should seriously consider taking
>>
>> Nope, you first, whining IT boy..
>>
>>> I was actually trying to help you stop making a fool of yourself.
>>
>> Well, you're not very good at anything beside making gross
>> errors in grammar, physics and higher mathematics, and then
>> pretending to be very smug about yourself..
>
> More projection on
Your part, yes, and don't forget your multiple 'nyms,
where you once pretended to be a PhD in Chemistry.
> Once again, I would like you to explain why it is
That you can't even solve your own "psychics problems",
because you mixed SI with English measurement systems,
and could barely make it through your own equations,
in several instances, without 'blotching' it up?
Well, I'm certain that your dyslexia played a part in
that, though you seem to prefer not to mention it..
--
"Unless you're trying to incinerate "false precision", which is the
term that engineers actually use."
"when you've been beated in an argument, or had some of your
errors corrected in public, the best thing to do to admit your
mistake and move on."
"your inability to grasp complex concepts confirm that you simply
don't have the competence to don't warrant a serious debate."
"Did you know that Rush listener are on average, better education
and more intelligence that the population at large?"
"If you were to ball a ball 500 miles above the Earth's surface"
"Oh, the units are in energy - kg x ft^2/sec^2"
"Anyway, I didn't even bother to out in the units in the equation"
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