*** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING, Sat 28 Mar or Sun 29 Mar 1998 ***
Mohib N Durrani
Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, m...@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 1997
Homepage: http://www.columbia.edu/~mnd
SUBJECT: CRESCENT MOON: FIRST VISIBILITY (every lunar month)
**************************************************************
ISLAMIC Year and Month 1418 Zul-Hijja [12th Islamic Month]
Astronomical New Moon Date 1998 Mar 28d 03h 14m (UT) (Sat) [INVISIBLE]
Sighting Date, Evening of 1998 Mar 28 (Sat) evening
Sighting Date Increase 0 [day(s) from Astro New Moon Date]
It is "Most Probale" that the Hilal of Zul-Hihha would be visible
for, USA/Canada, on the evening of Sat 28 Mar 1998.
This would make 10 Zul-Hijja (Eid-ul-Adha) as Tue 7 Apr 1998,
based on expected local sighting of the Hilal for USA/Canada.
Eid-Adha
Date of Zul-Hijja 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Date of March/April 29 30 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Day of Week Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun Mon Tue
It is IMPOSSIBLE for the Hilal of Zul-Hijja to be visible, with unaided eyes,
at Makkah, Sauadi Arabia, on the evening of Sat 28 Mar 1998.
For those countries following the announcement from Arafat, please confirm
with the announcement from Makkah for the 10 Zul-Hijja.
Usually, the announcement from Saudi Arabia has been
a day early (in my opinion) and hence the day for 10 Zul-Hijja
would most probably be announced also for Tue 7 Apr 1998.
Event times are approximate Civil -- Clock Standard Time
(nearest) (+N,-S) (+E) Zone QIBLA SUN MOON AGEat MOON-SUN Unaided-Eye
CITY LAT LONG -UT East SET SET Sunset ElgAlt Azm SIGHTING
*********** deg deg hr MagN Hr:Mn Hr:Mn Hr:Min DegDeg Deg **********
.MAKKAH-SArb 21.4 39.8 +3 0 18:36 19: 4 12: 22 +7 +6 -3 IMPOSSIBLE$
.DARSLM-Tnzn -6.8 39.2 +3 3 18:31 18:59 12: 17 +7<+7 +1 IMPOSSIBLE$
%MOSCOW-Rusa 55.8 37.6 +3 168 19: 0 19:28 12: 46 +8 +4 -7 IMPOSSIBLE
%ISTNBUL-Trk 41.0 28.9 +2 148 18:26 18:57 13: 12 +8<+6 -5 IMPOSSIBLE
.CAIRO-Egypt 30.1 31.3 +2 134 18:11 18:42 12: 57 +7 +6 -4 IMPOSSIBLE$
.KHRTUM-Sudn 15.5 32.6 +2 47 18: 2 18:33 12: 48 +7<+7 -2 IMPOSSIBLE$
.CPETOWN-SAf -33.8 18.6 +2 46 18:47 19:17 13: 33 +8<+6 +5 IMPOSSIBLE
.LAGOS-Nigra 6.5 3.4 +1 68 18:57 19:31 14: 43 +8 +8 -0 VERY DFCLT$
.ALGIERS-Alg 36.8 3.0 +0 107 18: 6 18:42 14: 52 +9<+7 -5 VERY DFCLT$
%GRENWCH-Eng 51.5 0.0 +0 124 18:26 19: 3 15: 12 +9 +5 -7 IMPOSSIBLE
.DAKAR-Sengl 14.7 -17.5 +0 85 19:21 19:59 16: 7 +9 +9 -2 DIFFICULT $
%RIOJNRO-Brz -22.9 -43.2 -3 88 17:56 18:35 17: 42 +10 +9 +5 DIFFICULT $
.PARAMRI-Sur 5.9 -55.2 -3 84 18:50 19:34 18: 36 +11+11 +0 MOST PROBL
.BNSARS-Argn -34.7 -58.4 -3 82 18:53 19:32 18: 39 +11<+8 +8 VERY DFCLT$
%LIMA---Peru -12.4 -77.0 -5 71 18:14 18:59 20: 0 +11+11 +4 MOST PROBL
%HALIFX-Cand 44.6 -63.6 -4 86 18:36 19:26 19: 22 +11 +8 -7 VERY DFCLT$
%NEWYORK-USA 40.8 -74.0 -5 73 18:16 19: 8 20: 2 +12 +9 -7 DIFFICULT $
%MIAMI---USA 25.8 -80.2 -5 61 18:35 19:26 20: 21 +12+11 -4 MOST PROBL
%CHICAGO-USA 41.2 -87.6 -6 51 18:10 19: 5 20: 56 +12+10 -7 PROBABLE $
%DALLAS--USA 32.8 -96.8 -6 38 18:43 19:38 21: 29 +12+11 -6 MOST PROBL
%DENVER--USA 39.7 -105.0 -7 24 18:20 19:18 22: 6 +13+11 -7 MOST PROBL
%SnDIEGO-USA 32.7 -117.1 -8 12 18: 5 19: 4 22: 51 +13+12 -6 MOST PROBL
%SnFRNCS-USA 37.7 -122.4 -8 3 18:28 19:29 23: 14 +13+11 -7 MOST PROBL
%VANCOVR-Cnd 49.3 -123.1 -8 356 18:37 19:41 23: 23 +14+10 -9 PROBABLE
%ANCHORG-Als 61.1 -150.0 -9 327 19:36 20:51 25: 22 +15 +9 -12 DIFFICULT $
.HONOLU--Hwi 21.3 -157.5 -10 327 18:43 19:47 25: 29 +15+14 -3 VISIBLE
(INCREASE date one day, if crossing EAST TO WEST)
##################### INTERNATIONAL DATE LINE ######################
(DECREASE date one day, if crossing WEST TO EAST)
%SYDNEY-Aust -33.9 151.2 +10 265 17:57 18:10 4: 43 +3 +3 +1 IMPOSSIBLE
.TOKYO-Japan 35.7 139.7 +9 300 18: 0 18: 9 5: 46 +4 +2 -3 IMPOSSIBLE
%BEIJING-Chn 39.9 116.4 +8 285 18:34 18:48 7: 20 +5 +2 -4 IMPOSSIBLE
.JAKARTA-Ind -6.3 106.9 +7 295 18: 1 18:19 7: 47 +4 +4 -0 IMPOSSIBLE
.DHAKA-BngDs 23.8 90.3 +6 278 18:13 18:33 8: 59 +5 +4 -3 IMPOSSIBLE
.AGRA--India 27.2 77.9 +5 269 18: 5 18:27 9: 51 +6 +5 -3 IMPOSSIBLE
.PESHAWR-Pks 33.6 71.4 +5 253 18:32 18:55 10: 18 +6 +4 -4 IMPOSSIBLE
.BUKHRA-Uzbk 39.6 64.6 +4 233 18: 2 18:26 10: 48 +6 +4 -5 IMPOSSIBLE
.TEHRAN-Iran 35.7 51.4 +3 215 17:53 18:19 11: 39 +7 +5 -4 IMPOSSIBLE
($) = Indicates slight probablity of sighting ONLY with optical aids.
(#) = May be visible on Previous Evening, with Difficulty.
(@) = May NOT be visible even on Next Evening.
(*) = Moonset BEFORE Sunset (Obviously IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE)
(<) = Actual Topocentric Altitude of the Moon is LESS THAN the number
(This information is only for altitudes from 6 to 8 degrees)
[%] = Add 1 hr to event time, during summer DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME,
from nearly early April to nearly end of October, in the Northern Hemisphere,
from nearly early October to nearly early March, in the Southern Hemisphere.
Dr.Mohib.N.Durrani
National Coordinator for Astronomical Information,
Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)
This File was Created on : 11-06-1997, Time : 08:07:44
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Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, m...@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 1997
Homepage: http://www.columbia.edu/~mnd
SUBJECT: CRESCENT MOON: FIRST VISIBILITY (every lunar month)
**************************************************************
ISLAMIC Year and Month 1418 Zul-Hijja [12th Islamic Month]
Astronomical New Moon Date 1998 Mar 28d 03h 14m (UT) (Sat) [INVISIBLE]
Sighting Date, Evening of 1998 Mar 29 (Sun) evening
Sighting Date Increase 1 [day(s) from Astro New Moon Date]
It is "Most Probale" that the Hilal of Zul-Hihha would be visible
for, USA/Canada, on the evening of Sat 28 Mar 1998.
This would make 10 Zul-Hijja (Eid-ul-Adha) as Tue 7 Apr 1998,
based on expected local sighting of the Hilal for USA/Canada.
Eid-Adha
Date of Zul-Hijja 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Date of March/April 29 30 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Day of Week Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun Mon Tue
It is IMPOSSIBLE for the Hilal of Zul-Hijja to be visible, with unaided eyes,
at Makkah, Sauadi Arabia, on the evening of Sat 28 Mar 1998.
For those countries following the announcement from Arafat, please confirm
with the announcement from Makkah for the 10 Zul-Hijja.
Usually, the announcement from Saudi Arabia has been
a day early (in my opinion) and hence the day for 10 Zul-Hijja
would most probably be announced also for Tue 7 Apr 1998.
Event times are approximate Civil -- Clock Standard Time
(nearest) (+N,-S) (+E) Zone QIBLA SUN MOON AGEat MOON-SUN Unaided-Eye
CITY LAT LONG -UT East SET SET Sunset ElgAlt Azm SIGHTING
*********** deg deg hr MagN Hr:Mn Hr:Mn Hr:Min DegDeg Deg **********
.MAKKAH-SArb 21.4 39.8 +3 0 18:36 20: 9 36: 22 +21+21 -4 VISIBLE
.DARSLM-Tnzn -6.8 39.2 +3 3 18:30 19:53 36: 16 +21+20 +7 VISIBLE
%MOSCOW-Rusa 55.8 37.6 +3 168 19: 2 20:54 36: 48 +21+15 -16 VISIBLE
%ISTNBUL-Trk 41.0 28.9 +2 148 18:27 20:11 37: 13 +22+19 -11 VISIBLE
.CAIRO-Egypt 30.1 31.3 +2 134 18:12 19:50 36: 58 +21+20 -7 VISIBLE
.KHRTUM-Sudn 15.5 32.6 +2 47 18: 3 19:35 36: 49 +21+21 -1 VISIBLE
.CPETOWN-SAf -33.8 18.6 +2 46 18:46 20: 0 37: 32 +22+15 +17 VISIBLE
.LAGOS-Nigra 6.5 3.4 +1 68 18:57 20:30 38: 43 +22+22 +3 VISIBLE
.ALGIERS-Alg 36.8 3.0 +0 107 18: 7 19:54 38: 53 +23+20 -10 VISIBLE
%GRENWCH-Eng 51.5 0.0 +0 124 18:28 20:25 39: 14 +23+17 -15 VISIBLE
.DAKAR-Sengl 14.7 -17.5 +0 85 19:21 21: 1 40: 7 +23+23 -1 VISIBLE
%RIOJNRO-Brz -22.9 -43.2 -3 88 17:55 19:23 41: 41 +24+19 +15 VISIBLE
.PARAMRI-Sur 5.9 -55.2 -3 84 18:50 20:33 42: 36 +25+24 +4 VISIBLE
.BNSARS-Argn -34.7 -58.4 -3 82 18:52 20:15 42: 38 +25+16 +19 VISIBLE
%LIMA---Peru -12.4 -77.0 -5 71 18:13 19:51 43: 59 +26+23 +12 VISIBLE
%HALIFX-Cand 44.6 -63.6 -4 86 18:37 20:42 43: 23 +25+21 -14 VISIBLE
%NEWYORK-USA 40.8 -74.0 -5 73 18:17 20:21 44: 3 +26+22 -13 VISIBLE
%MIAMI---USA 25.8 -80.2 -5 61 18:36 20:32 44: 22 +26+25 -6 VISIBLE
%CHICAGO-USA 41.2 -87.6 -6 51 18:11 20:18 44: 57 +26+23 -13 VISIBLE
%DALLAS--USA 32.8 -96.8 -6 38 18:44 20:47 45: 30 +26+25 -9 VISIBLE
%DENVER--USA 39.7 -105.0 -7 24 18:21 20:30 46: 7 +27+24 -13 VISIBLE
%SnDIEGO-USA 32.7 -117.1 -8 12 18: 6 20:13 46: 52 +27+26 -10 VISIBLE
%SnFRNCS-USA 37.7 -122.4 -8 3 18:29 20:40 47: 15 +27+25 -12 VISIBLE
%VANCOVR-Cnd 49.3 -123.1 -8 356 18:39 21: 1 47: 25 +28+22 -17 VISIBLE
%ANCHORG-Als 61.1 -150.0 -9 327 19:38 22:25 49: 24 +29+19 -22 VISIBLE
.HONOLU--Hwi 21.3 -157.5 -10 327 18:43 20:51 49: 29 +29+28 -4 VISIBLE
(INCREASE date one day, if crossing EAST TO WEST)
##################### INTERNATIONAL DATE LINE ######################
(DECREASE date one day, if crossing WEST TO EAST)
%SYDNEY-Aust -33.9 151.2 +10 265 17:56 18:53 28: 42 +17+11 +12 MOST PROBL
.TOKYO-Japan 35.7 139.7 +9 300 18: 1 19:20 29: 47 +17+15 -8 VISIBLE
%BEIJING-Chn 39.9 116.4 +8 285 18:35 20: 1 31: 21 +18+16 -9 VISIBLE
.JAKARTA-Ind -6.3 106.9 +7 295 18: 1 19:14 31: 47 +18+17 +6 VISIBLE
.DHAKA-BngDs 23.8 90.3 +6 278 18:14 19:38 33: 0 +19+19 -4 VISIBLE
.AGRA--India 27.2 77.9 +5 269 18: 5 19:34 33: 51 +20+19 -6 VISIBLE
.PESHAWR-Pks 33.6 71.4 +5 253 18:33 20: 5 34: 19 +20+18 -8 VISIBLE
.BUKHRA-Uzbk 39.6 64.6 +4 233 18: 3 19:39 34: 49 +20+18 -10 VISIBLE
.TEHRAN-Iran 35.7 51.4 +3 215 17:54 19:30 35: 40 +21+19 -9 VISIBLE
($) = Indicates slight probablity of sighting ONLY with optical aids.
(#) = May be visible on Previous Evening, with Difficulty.
(@) = May NOT be visible even on Next Evening.
(*) = Moonset BEFORE Sunset (Obviously IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE)
(<) = Actual Topocentric Altitude of the Moon is LESS THAN the number
(This information is only for altitudes from 6 to 8 degrees)
[%] = Add 1 hr to event time, during summer DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME,
from nearly early April to nearly end of October, in the Northern Hemisphere,
from nearly early October to nearly early March, in the Southern Hemisphere.
Dr.Mohib.N.Durrani
National Coordinator for Astronomical Information,
Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)
This File was Created on : 11-06-1997, Time : 08:29:04
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Uncle Al
Mohib N Durrani wrote:
>
> Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
> (In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
> Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, m...@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 1997
> Homepage: http://www.columbia.edu/~mnd
>
> SUBJECT: CRESCENT MOON: FIRST VISIBILITY (every lunar month)
> **************************************************************
[snip]
WARNING! WARNING! THE MOON IS NOT Y2K COMPLIANT! (Heck, it isn't even
ISO-certified)
Thousands of astronomers are needed RIGHT NOW to bring the moon into
Year 2000 compliance. We risk untold tidal destruction, massive lunar
calendrical chaos, and utter global higleddy-pigleddyness (not kosher!)
unless batallions of heavenly adepts restructure the mathematical
singularity of millennial dysplasia.
What is being done? NOTHING! It is going to be green cheese and eggs
for all humanity unless multi-$billion funding is released RIGHT NOW!
Write to your congresscritters! Petition the Pope! Run around in
circles waving your arms and squawking like a chicken before it is too
late!
The debate about man-in-the-moon vs woman pounding rice will have to
wait.
--
Uncle Al Schwartz
Uncl...@ix.netcom.com ("zero" before @)
http://pw2.netcom.com/~uncleal0/uncleal.htm
http://www.ultra.net.au/~wisby/uncleal.htm
http://www.guyy.demon.co.uk/uncleal/uncleal.htm
(Toxic URLs! Unsafe for children, Democrats, and most mammals)
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Jim Klein
Uncle Al <Uncl...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Mohib N Durrani wrote:
>>
>> Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
>> (In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
>> Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, m...@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 1997
>> Homepage: http://www.columbia.edu/~mnd
>>
>> SUBJECT: CRESCENT MOON: FIRST VISIBILITY (every lunar month)
>> **************************************************************
>[snip]
>WARNING! WARNING! THE MOON IS NOT Y2K COMPLIANT! (Heck, it isn't even
>ISO-certified)
>Thousands of astronomers are needed RIGHT NOW to bring the moon into
>Year 2000 compliance. We risk untold tidal destruction, massive lunar
>calendrical chaos, and utter global higleddy-pigleddyness (not kosher!)
>unless batallions of heavenly adepts restructure the mathematical
>singularity of millennial dysplasia.
>What is being done? NOTHING! It is going to be green cheese and eggs
>for all humanity unless multi-$billion funding is released RIGHT NOW!
>Write to your congresscritters! Petition the Pope! Run around in
>circles waving your arms and squawking like a chicken before it is too
>late!
>The debate about man-in-the-moon vs woman pounding rice will have to
>wait.
>--
>Uncle Al Schwartz
>Uncl...@ix.netcom.com ("zero" before @)
>http://pw2.netcom.com/~uncleal0/uncleal.htm
>http://www.ultra.net.au/~wisby/uncleal.htm
>http://www.guyy.demon.co.uk/uncleal/uncleal.htm
> (Toxic URLs! Unsafe for children, Democrats, and most mammals)
>"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
Dear Uncle Al,
I would not tease these people. They take their stuff DEADLY serious
if you get my drift. The posts go everywhere that I've seen so nothing
short of a miraculous event is going to stop them. I just erase them
from my disk when they show up.
Jim Klein
P. Edward Murray
I still maintain that everybody knows when New Moon is...
No One needs to know...
Ed Murray
BMAA
Peter R Newman
P. Edward Murray wrote:
>
> I still maintain that everybody knows when New Moon is...
> No One needs to know...
Well, then, you are clearly not a muslim or aware of islamic beliefs.
I am not a muslim, either, but as I understand it, Islam holds that the
new moon, or more precisely, the crescent moon (hilal), only appears
when Allah says it will appear. Hence it is necessary to observe it to
know that a new month (in the Hegira calendar) has begun -- predictions
are not fact (a view shared by others, too). Many islamic festivals are
tied to the calendar (as in other religions).
Ma'sallama
Pete
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Amer Alshawa (Abu Amin)
Hi everyone,
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Peter R Newman wrote:
> P. Edward Murray wrote:
> >
> > I still maintain that everybody knows when New Moon is...
> > No One needs to know...
> I am not a muslim, either, but as I understand it, Islam holds that the
> new moon, or more precisely, the crescent moon (hilal), only appears
> when Allah says it will appear. Hence it is necessary to observe it to
> know that a new month (in the Hegira calendar) has begun -- predictions
> are not fact (a view shared by others, too). Many islamic festivals are
> tied to the calendar (as in other religions).
Actually what pete wrote is not very correct, in my opinion as a Muslim.
First, since Allah (GOD in Arabic) is the CREATOR, then the moon, the
cresent or anything else appear according to the Will of God. Now the
strong tradition within the Islamic body of laws is that the begining of
the Month of Ramadan (Fasting) and the month of Thul Hijjah (Pilgrimage to
Makkah, has to start according to naked eye mon sighting only, not
calculations. However, the growing trend now with Muslims is that, ok we
will use calculations and technology to tell when the moon is born, when
can it be seen, where can it be seen and for how long. Since in Islam,
the moon, the sun, the earth, a human being, anything else, have to follow
and go according the laws of nature (as we study in physics, engineering,
astronomy, etc.) then we believe tha there should not be a difference
between a solid scientific fact and faith.
One last thing worth of mentioning is that Muslim scientists, were the
ones distinguishing the science of astronomy from astrology.
Thanks
A M E R A L S H A W A (ABU AMIN), PhD
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Jim Carr
edwa...@erols.com writes:
>
>I still maintain that everybody knows when New Moon is...
>No One needs to know...
The Islamic calendar is based on the first _sighting_ of the crescent
moon, not the new moon (or the full moon as in other calendars). I
find this kind of interesting since it is not something forest-dwellers
would come up with.
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Jim Klein
No offense intended but how does all this relate to sci.optics?
Dieter Kreuer
Jim Carr wrote:
> The Islamic calendar is based on the first _sighting_ of the crescent
> moon, not the new moon (or the full moon as in other calendars). I
> find this kind of interesting since it is not something forest-dwellers
> would come up with.
With the weather in central Europe, starting the new month only when
we see the Moon the first time after New Moon, we would end up with
months of 40-60 days :-(
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Jim Klein
Hi,
Someone made a negative comment about the HILAL posts a while ago and
I made a post suggesting that they not tease these people because of
possible unknown consequences. I received an email today which
indicated that my post may have offended some and this was not my
intent. I originally said:
> I would not tease these people. They take their stuff DEADLY serious
> if you get my drift. The posts go everywhere that I've seen so nothing
> short of a miraculous event is going to stop them.
I did not mean to say that Muslims were terrorists. Of course they are
not, any more than Southern Baptists, Catholics, Jews, agnostics,
Democrats or anyone else is. I have a friend who because of his
religious belief system, has very little tolerance for those who try
to convince him that Dinosaur fossils are much older than 6000 of our
years. He really has no sense of humor in this respect and his beliefs
are deadly serious although I don't think he would ever hurt a soul
intentionally.
Messing with a human being's belief system is essentially messing with
who they are. Assault that belief system humorously and you sometimes
assult that person's personna to intolerable levels.
I meant to say that if someone is posting religious related messages
to many non-religious news groups, they may not have a big sense of
humor with respect to their religion. When dealing with anyone who you
do not know personally who seems highly religious, it has never seemed
to be a good idea to make fun of their beliefs since, as individuals,
we each have our own level beyond which point we may "go off" so to
speak.
After we make someone else lose their temper, we then have emotion and
human chemicals driving the result rather than calmness and reason.
If I in any way offended anyone in my post, it was not my intent and I
sincerely apologize.
Jim Klein
JTGill
>No offense intended but how does all this relate to sci.optics?
If you are going to question someone's cross posting habits, the least
you could do is trim the crossposting headers yourself.
JT