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US ATTACKS SYRIAN CONVOY, US INVASION OF SE SYRIA MAY FOLLOW SOON

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Jonathan

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May 19, 2017, 10:13:04 PM5/19/17
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It appears Trump is letting the US military
act as it sees fit, that's fine with me.


Mattis: Trump Empowered Commanders to 'Annihilate ISIS'
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/05/19/mattis-trump-empowered-commanders-annihilate-isis.html?ESRC=todayinmil.sm



Video of US attack against Syrian/Iranian convoy
https://youtu.be/Pgd9xBwlGS8



Google map of area
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2689644,39.7206502,8.25z



Syria MAP : How the US airstrike on advancing
pro -Assad forces unfolded near the Iraq-Syria
border.
Conflict Map
https://twitter.com/hashtag/AlTanf?src=hash



Conflict Map
http://www.moonofalabama.org/images5/syriamap20170513.jpg



SAA will continue to attack FSA routes to
prevent their advance on Syria from
Jordan border
Conflict Map
https://twitter.com/todayinsyria/status/865449881686626304



Hezbollah convoys on the road for Al-Tanf,
Syria-Jordan border area, yesterday hit
by US.
pics
https://twitter.com/taylieli/status/865526410621747201




Destroying three Syrian vehicles including
two tanks may not sound like a big deal, but
this attack may have tipped the hand of
US plans for Syria.

The US/Kurds are still mired in Raqqa (thanks
to Mike Flynn's Turkish-treachery) and ISIS
has since moved their capital to the SE in
Deir Ezzor. See maps above.

So now that Syrian N Hama counteroffensive is
over Syria has been moving to take two key
objectives.

Syria wants to push east from Palmrya to take
the prized new capital of ISIS at Deir Ezzor
before the US/Kurds can finish in Raqqa.

And they want to take the very strategic
border crossing at At Tanf where Iraq,
Syria and Jordan meet, a key road for
the coalition to supply rebels and
sustain the anti-ISIS operation.

Syrian troops were approaching the key border
crossing in At Tanf which led to the US attack
on that convoy yesterday, which reportedly
consisted of 2-300 troops, five tanks and
other vehicles.

If Syria takes Deir Ezzor and At Tanf border
crossing that would make it almost impossible
for the US/Kurds to stay long term in
the Raqqa area and short circuit the US plans
to crush ISIS.

If the US takes both objectives then we would
cut off Syria from the entire SE region of
Syria, where the bulk of the largest Syrian
oil fields happen to be, btw.

The Syrian push from Palmyra towards Deir Ezzor
appears to be long stalled near the Arak Gas Fields
only 35 km East of Palmyra.


Syrian Army resumes offensive to lift siege on Deir Ezzor
By Leith Fadel - 17/05/2017
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-resumes-offensive-lift-siege-deir-ezzor/



So if Syria makes for Deir Ezzor before
the coalition can take Raqqa, the US
possibly with Jordan may be forced to
openly invade to take Deir Ezzor and finish off
ISIS, instead of relying on Kurdish proxies.

And btw, when Obama was about to leave
office he had decided to arm the Kurds
to take Raqqa. But since the operation
would extend into Trump's administration
Obama informed Flynn of the decision
to arm the Kurds.

Flynn said no, and stopped the arms shipment
to the Kurds. And at the time Flynn was
under the payroll of Turkey to the tune
of $530,000, with his paymaster Turkey
adamantly opposed to arming the Kurds.

Flynn's treachery has stalled the Raqqa
operation for a couple of months, and
that delay means Syria has had time
to regroup for an effort to take Deir Ezzor
and cut off the entire US are of operations
against ISIS.

FUCKING TRAITOR FLYNN may end up being
the reason the US is forced to send in
US grounds troops in numbers instead of
getting the job done with proxies.

Flynn deserves jail time.



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Jonathan

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May 20, 2017, 10:33:57 AM5/20/17
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Another important result of the US continuing
to hold the strategic border crossing at
At Tanf, which Syria is trying to take, is
that road is how Iran has been sending it's
troops into Syria via Iraq to help Assad.

Which explains why Syria is determined to take
back the border crossing and force the US out.



Conflict map of At Tanf area
https://twitter.com/todayinsyria/status/865449881686626304



Large battalion of Syria-n and Iraqi forces
still heading to Tanaf in spite of US airstrikes.
US will either pull out of Syria or fight.
pics
https://twitter.com/AgenturRU/status/865927798086651905



US airstrike on Syrian militia aims to cut route to Iran:
Robert Fisk
https://komnews.org/us-airstrike-on-syrian-militia-aims-to-cut-route-to-iran-robert-fisk/




Syria and Russia condemn US-led attack on pro-Assad forces
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39972271

David E. Powell

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May 20, 2017, 11:19:04 AM5/20/17
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On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 10:33:57 AM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
> Another important result of the US continuing
> to hold the strategic border crossing at
> At Tanf, which Syria is trying to take, is
> that road is how Iran has been sending it's
> troops into Syria via Iraq to help Assad.
>
> Which explains why Syria is determined to take
> back the border crossing and force the US out.

Much like the fighting in Mid-2000s Iraq, Iran is in theater against U.S. Troops. I wonder if direct battle has happened yet at that border crossing, between Iranian regular troops or Revolutionary Guards on the one side and U.S. Forces on the other.

The Iranians sent not only gear, but personnel, into Iraq to fight the U.S. and her allies there. It was one reason the place got so destabilized.

Jonathan

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May 20, 2017, 1:03:35 PM5/20/17
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On 5/20/2017 11:19 AM, David E. Powell wrote:
> On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 10:33:57 AM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
>> Another important result of the US continuing
>> to hold the strategic border crossing at
>> At Tanf, which Syria is trying to take, is
>> that road is how Iran has been sending it's
>> troops into Syria via Iraq to help Assad.
>>
>> Which explains why Syria is determined to take
>> back the border crossing and force the US out.
>
> Much like the fighting in Mid-2000s Iraq, Iran is in theater against U.S. Troops. I wonder if direct battle has happened yet at that border crossing, between Iranian regular troops or Revolutionary Guards on the one side and U.S. Forces on the other.
>



We just bombed them yesterday, most of the ground troops
in Assad's army are Iranians/Hezbollah or Iraqi Shia militias.
Most Alawites are either officers or are in the rear
manning countless checkpoints.

Jonathan

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May 20, 2017, 2:28:04 PM5/20/17
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Norwegian Army enters southern Syria to aid endangered rebels
at border crossing


DAMASCUS, SYRIA (17:35 P.M.) – On Saturday, Iraqi military
commander Shakir Abid said a unit of Norwegian special forces
had been allowed to enter Syria through the Al-Waleed border
crossing in western Anbar.

The Norwegian unit arrived at the Al-Tanf region on the
Syrian side of the border, home to US-backed Free Syrian Army
(FSA) that have become the target of an ongoing offensive
by the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) along the Damascus-Baghdad
highway.

The Iraqi Army, Iraqi border guards and Iraqi Federal Police
notably provided the Norwegian contingent safe passage to
link up with US and British forces already deployed inside
eastern Homs, despite vocal objections by the government
in Damascus.

Shakir Abid also said the Islamic State was present 50 kilometers
north of the border crossing area and that fighting continued
in that desert region.

According to Washington, US-led coalition forces have been
active in the Al-Tanf border region for months alongside
vetted FSA fighters originally from Deir Ezzor province.

With the SAA and paramilitary contingents advancing ever
closer to the Al-Tanf border crossing as we speak, the
United States Air Force has responded with force on
two occasions.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/norwegian-army-enters-southern-syria-aid-endangered-rebels-border-crossing/

Fred J. McCall

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May 20, 2017, 9:06:06 PM5/20/17
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Jonathan <Wr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/20/2017 11:19 AM, David E. Powell wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 10:33:57 AM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
>>> Another important result of the US continuing
>>> to hold the strategic border crossing at
>>> At Tanf, which Syria is trying to take, is
>>> that road is how Iran has been sending it's
>>> troops into Syria via Iraq to help Assad.
>>>
>>> Which explains why Syria is determined to take
>>> back the border crossing and force the US out.
>>
>> Much like the fighting in Mid-2000s Iraq, Iran is in theater against U.S. Troops. I wonder if direct battle has happened yet at that border crossing, between Iranian regular troops or Revolutionary Guards on the one side and U.S. Forces on the other.
>>
>
>We just bombed them yesterday, most of the ground troops
>in Assad's army are Iranians/Hezbollah or Iraqi Shia militias.
>

What absolute bullshit!


--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine

jonathan

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May 20, 2017, 11:51:11 PM5/20/17
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Chrissakes you need to think before you speak.



U.S. says Iranian-directed convoy targeted by U.S. strike in Syria -


Mattis said he believed the Iranian-directed forces moved into the zone
against the advice of Russia but that he was unable to confirm that with
certainty.

"But it looks like the Russians tried to dissuade them," Mattis said.

A Western intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity, has
said the strike sent a strong message to Iranian-backed militias that
they would not be allowed to reach the Iraq border from Syria.

- See more at:
http://iranprobe.com/explore/news/u-s-says-iranian-directed-convoy-targeted-by-u-s-strike-in-syria.html#sthash.IXOlz5aV.mylJ319x.dpuf


Fred J. McCall

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May 21, 2017, 4:32:05 AM5/21/17
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jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/20/2017 9:06 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Jonathan <Wr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/20/2017 11:19 AM, David E. Powell wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 10:33:57 AM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
>>>>> Another important result of the US continuing
>>>>> to hold the strategic border crossing at
>>>>> At Tanf, which Syria is trying to take, is
>>>>> that road is how Iran has been sending it's
>>>>> troops into Syria via Iraq to help Assad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which explains why Syria is determined to take
>>>>> back the border crossing and force the US out.
>>>>
>>>> Much like the fighting in Mid-2000s Iraq, Iran is in theater against U.S. Troops. I wonder if direct battle has happened yet at that border crossing, between Iranian regular troops or Revolutionary Guards on the one side and U.S. Forces on the other.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We just bombed them yesterday, most of the ground troops
>>> in Assad's army are Iranians/Hezbollah or Iraqi Shia militias.
>>>
>>
>> What absolute bullshit!
>>
>
>Chrissakes you need to think before you speak.
>

Chrissakes you need to learn to read before you respond.

>
>U.S. says Iranian-directed convoy targeted by U.S. strike in Syria -
>

Not the part I was referring to as "absolute bullshit". Your claim
that "most of the ground troops in Assad's army are Iranians/Hezbollah
or Iraqi Shia militias". That statement is absolute bullshit. Do try
to keep up.

<snip Jonthy focusing on the wrong thing>


--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Jonathan

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May 21, 2017, 7:08:02 AM5/21/17
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On 5/21/2017 4:32 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/20/2017 9:06 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>> Jonathan <Wr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/20/2017 11:19 AM, David E. Powell wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 10:33:57 AM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
>>>>>> Another important result of the US continuing
>>>>>> to hold the strategic border crossing at
>>>>>> At Tanf, which Syria is trying to take, is
>>>>>> that road is how Iran has been sending it's
>>>>>> troops into Syria via Iraq to help Assad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which explains why Syria is determined to take
>>>>>> back the border crossing and force the US out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Much like the fighting in Mid-2000s Iraq, Iran is in theater against U.S. Troops. I wonder if direct battle has happened yet at that border crossing, between Iranian regular troops or Revolutionary Guards on the one side and U.S. Forces on the other.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We just bombed them yesterday, most of the ground troops
>>>> in Assad's army are Iranians/Hezbollah or Iraqi Shia militias.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What absolute bullshit!
>>>
>>
>> Chrissakes you need to think before you speak.
>>
>
> Chrissakes you need to learn to read before you respond.
>
>>
>> U.S. says Iranian-directed convoy targeted by U.S. strike in Syria -
>>
>
> Not the part I was referring to as "absolute bullshit".




Oh, excuse me, your reply was so nuanced, detailed
and clear, as usual. How could I mistake your
criticism? If you're going to reply like a
f'ing high school dropout, what do you expect?



> Your claim
> that "most of the ground troops in Assad's army are Iranians/Hezbollah
> or Iraqi Shia militias". That statement is absolute bullshit. Do try
> to keep up.
>



You don't know what you're talking about. Do your homework
before spewing please. Iran has taken over the ground
war in Syria not just with their own troops but by
paying thousands of mercenaries from the region.



Iran's Forces Outnumber Assad's in Syria

While, according to reports by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary
Guard Corps (IRGC), the Syrian military has fewer than
50,000 men, Iran has deployed more than 70,000 Iranian
and non-Iranian forces in Syria, and pays monthly salaries
to over 250,000 militiamen and agents.

According to a report entitled, "How Iran Fuels Syria War,"
published by the National Council of Resistance of Iran
(NCRI), non-Iranian mercenaries number around 55,000 men;
Iraqi militias are around 20,000 men (from 10 groups),
Afghan militias are approximately 15,000 to 20,000 men,
Lebanese Hezbollah are around 7,000 to 10,000 men, and
Pakistani, Palestinian and other militiamen number
approximately 5,000 to 7,000.

In addition, the composition of Iranian IRGC forces are
around 8,000 to 10,000 men, and 5,000 to 6,000 from
the regular Iranian Army.

The major Iranian decision-makers in the Syrian conflict
are Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and the
senior cadre of the Revolutionary Guards.

Iran has spent approximately USD $100 billion on the
Syrian war.

Iran has divided Syria into five divisions and have over
13 military bases including the "Glass Building"
(Maghar Shishe'i), which is the IRGC's main command
center in Syria, located close to the Damascus Airport.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9406/iran-soldiers-syria




Most of those 50,000 Alawite troops are manning check points
in Latakia province and Dasmascus, it's the Iranians and
their paid militia doing the bulk of the offensive
operations in rebel held territory.

Syria has only two substantial remaining effective offensive
units left, the Tiger Brigade and the 5th mechanized
division and they barely comprise 5000 troops.

Fred J. McCall

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May 21, 2017, 1:35:58 PM5/21/17
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Thank you for the admission that you are too bloody stupid to be here.

>
>>
>> Your claim
>> that "most of the ground troops in Assad's army are Iranians/Hezbollah
>> or Iraqi Shia militias". That statement is absolute bullshit. Do try
>> to keep up.
>>
>
>You don't know what you're talking about. Do your homework
>before spewing please. Iran has taken over the ground
>war in Syria not just with their own troops but by
>paying thousands of mercenaries from the region.
>

You've said this shit before and been corrected on it before. Are you
incapable of retaining even the simplest information? First you tried
to claim that Iranian forces were being used as 'cannon fodder' and
were taking the brunt of the casualties. When disabused of this
notion by having it point out that Iranian KIAs were a tiny percentage
of the total (and mostly officers, at that), you tried to claim you
meant Iranian backed militias. That fell flat in the face of the
facts, too.

>
>
>Iran's Forces Outnumber Assad's in Syria
>
>While, according to reports by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary
>Guard Corps (IRGC), the Syrian military has fewer than
>50,000 men, Iran has deployed more than 70,000 Iranian
>and non-Iranian forces in Syria, and pays monthly salaries
>to over 250,000 militiamen and agents.
>

So with a force numbering a quarter of a million troops, why isn't the
war over with an overwhelming victory? I'll tell you why. Because
those numbers are bullshit. This very article says so; just keep
reading.

>
>According to a report entitled, "How Iran Fuels Syria War,"
>published by the National Council of Resistance of Iran
>(NCRI), non-Iranian mercenaries number around 55,000 men;
>Iraqi militias are around 20,000 men (from 10 groups),
>Afghan militias are approximately 15,000 to 20,000 men,
>Lebanese Hezbollah are around 7,000 to 10,000 men, and
>Pakistani, Palestinian and other militiamen number
>approximately 5,000 to 7,000.
>

OK, so now an organization with an agenda that would include
exaggerating Iranian threat comes up with a total of 55,000 vice
250,000+. That 55,000 number is probably vastly exaggerated.

>
>In addition, the composition of Iranian IRGC forces are
>around 8,000 to 10,000 men, and 5,000 to 6,000 from
>the regular Iranian Army.
>

And we now get Iranian forces as perhaps 15,000 vice "more than
70,000". Again, those figures are no doubt exaggerated.

>
>The major Iranian decision-makers in the Syrian conflict
>are Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and the
>senior cadre of the Revolutionary Guards.
>
>Iran has spent approximately USD $100 billion on the
>Syrian war.
>
>Iran has divided Syria into five divisions and have over
>13 military bases including the "Glass Building"
>(Maghar Shishe'i), which is the IRGC's main command
>center in Syria, located close to the Damascus Airport.
>
>https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9406/iran-soldiers-syria
>
>
>Most of those 50,000 Alawite troops are manning check points
>in Latakia province and Dasmascus, it's the Iranians and
>their paid militia doing the bulk of the offensive
>operations in rebel held territory.
>

Bullshit. You're obviously stupid. 'Pro-Assad' does not equate to
'Alawite'. While the overwhelming majority of 'career military' and
the officer corps are Alawite, Syria still has conscription for the
bulk of its forces. Most of the checkpoints you're talking about are
manned by police forces which you aren't even counting.

Hell, you haven't even figured out yet that the FSA is pretty much a
Turkish proxy force.

jonathan

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May 21, 2017, 6:54:03 PM5/21/17
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I've got credible cites, you have nothing but hot air, it's
like debating with a child.

When you have a reply that says more than
...'that's a bunch of bullshit'... then I'll
listen. Till then your so-called opinion
isn't worth anything.





Fred J. McCall

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May 21, 2017, 11:32:55 PM5/21/17
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You don't have dick, Twitiot, in any sense of the word.

>
>When you have a reply that says more than
>...'that's a bunch of bullshit'... then I'll
>listen. Till then your so-called opinion
>isn't worth anything.
>

When you have a reply that says more than ... <spew quote and
misinterpret> ... then I probably still won't listen. You've lied and
spewed too much. Till then you go ahead and act like a moron; I'm OK
with you looking stupid.
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