"Clyde" N-Sub Diesel Engine Questions: (DBF?)
David E. Powell
writes in "Submarine." Since this is a publicly known thing, I'll ask... is
the diesel ever turned over, run, etc. on drills or exercises? I suppose any
real emergency use of the Diesel would be classified.
Another question - are they Fairborne - Morse engines? If so, are they made
by a manufacturer which made WW2 Sub engines?
How much have the engines changed (I hear they are smaller than the old
Fleet/Guppy boat engines, and it is only one per SSN.)
DO SSBNs have them? If so, are they more horsepower/more engines than SSNs?
Just a few questions...
David Powell
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David E. Powell
>On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 02:02:59 GMT, ato...@idt.nospam.net (Steve
>Atkatz) fumbled with the keyboard & wrote:
>
>Ooops, missed it on the 1st read, its FAIRBANKS Morse, the same people
>that build the scales.
Thanks for the assist! =)
>A to Z
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Steve Atkatz
<David_Po...@email.msn.com> fumbled with the keyboard & wrote:
>USN subs have a Diesel Engine as well as a Nuclear Reactor, or so Tom Clancy
>writes in "Submarine." Since this is a publicly known thing, I'll ask... is
>the diesel ever turned over, run, etc. on drills or exercises? I suppose any
>real emergency use of the Diesel would be classified.
>
Of course, how do you know it's gonna work when you need it and the
crew knows how to run it, if they don't run it every now and then.
>Another question - are they Fairborne - Morse engines? If so, are they made
>by a manufacturer which made WW2 Sub engines?
>
yup
>How much have the engines changed
Basically the same opposed piston, supercharged 2 strokes that FM has
been building since the '30's, originally for RR Engines.
>(I hear they are smaller than the old
>Fleet/Guppy boat engines, and it is only one per SSN.)
Basically the same opposed piston, supercharged 2 strokes that FM has
been building since the '30's, originally for RR Engines. SSN engines
just have less cylinders than the 9 & 10 cylinder jobbers that were in
the Fleet boats, and yes only one in an SSN
>
>DO SSBNs have them? If so, are they more horsepower/more engines than SSNs?
>
Still only one, just IIRC more cylinders.
Steve Atkatz
Atkatz) fumbled with the keyboard & wrote:
Ooops, missed it on the 1st read, its FAIRBANKS Morse, the same people
that build the scales.
A to Z
Krztalizer
one note - if you hear a GM-V-16 kick on, and you've been doing aural analysis
for about 3 hours trying to find a damn quiet nuclear bastard, the resulting
commotion is enough to blow your headset off. I know that they use noise
cancelling and all manner of noise reduction equipment, but when that huge
diesel belches into life, you can hear it for miles. The USS Boston used hers
for some reason and it sounded louder than a Type I.
Anyone know what powers the USS Dolphin..? I know its a D/E, but I dont think
I have ever seen whether its an FM or a GM-powered boat.
Gordon
Gilbert M Bohannon Jr
boat. She has one Fairbanks Morse 38ND 8-1/8 two stroke diesel, 12
cylinders, running 2000 hp. They fired it up at our request and boy was
that baby impressive!!
I work aboard USS Torsk (SS-423) in Baltimore. Torsk is a WWII Fleet boat
that has four Fairbanks Morse 38D 8-1/8 engines, 10 cylinder models, rated
at 1600 HP each. They look basically the same as the one on MAINE, and
these are 54 years old!!!
Go here to see Torsk's engines:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/1056/engine.htm and click on either
the forward or after engine room link.
Gilbert Bohannon Jr
Torsk Volunteer
BlackBeard
krzta...@aol.comMAYBENOT (Krztalizer) wrote:
>
>Anyone know what powers the USS Dolphin..? I know its a D/E, but I dont think
>I have ever seen whether its an FM or a GM-powered boat.
>
>Gordon
Do a search. They have a web page Dolphin, Parche, SubDevGruFive). I'm
heading out the door or I'd get it for you.
BlackBeard
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>Basically the same opposed piston, supercharged 2 strokes that FM has
>been building since the '30's, originally for RR Engines.
Minor note, but . . . Fairbanks Morse opposed piston engines started
out as sales for the marine field, then were put into use for
locomotives. Fairbanks Morse did not start constructing their own
railroad diesels until 1944 with its H10-44 switcher (Milwaukee Road
No. 760 -- FWIW). Fairbanks Morse was actually a bit player in rail
locomotives -- USN marine engines have been their bread and butter.
David E. Powell
awhile.... I guess that if it isn't broken, you don't fix it..... and they
built those engines right back then....
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Andrew C. Toppan
> Anyone know what powers the USS Dolphin..? I know its a D/E, but I dont think
> I have ever seen whether its an FM or a GM-powered boat.
The common references seem to agreee on two GM/DD 12V71s.
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Tim McFeely
<David_Po...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>USN subs have a Diesel Engine as well as a Nuclear Reactor, or so Tom Clancy
>writes in "Submarine." Since this is a publicly known thing, I'll ask... is
>the diesel ever turned over, run, etc. on drills or exercises? I suppose any
>real emergency use of the Diesel would be classified.
Used quite frequently, more often in port than underway (except for
ORSE workups). Often times inport shore power went down, or had to be
removed for maintenance or access through the after escape trunk
(where the SP connections were located). The diesel was used for SS
power during these times.
Aside from providing Ship's Service power when the reactor or SP is
down, the diesel makes a pretty good ventilater for compartments that
need refreshing. Smoke, toxic gas, etc. can all be removed rather
quickly from the affected compartments. This has the added bonus
(unlike the LP blower) of not spreading the contamination through out
the rest of the vessel, any contamination is exhausted overboard.
One other use, though usually fatal to the diesel, was to depressurize
the engine room in case of a major steam leak.
>Another question - are they Fairborne - Morse engines? If so, are they made
>by a manufacturer which made WW2 Sub engines?
Fairbanks- Morse. Yes.
>How much have the engines changed (I hear they are smaller than the old
>Fleet/Guppy boat engines, and it is only one per SSN.)
688s have 8 cylinder opposing piston units.
>DO SSBNs have them? If so, are they more horsepower/more engines than SSNs?
Yes.
>Just a few questions...
>
>
>David Powell
>--
>"Weep for the chickens, Bok. Weep for us all"
>
>"Bok!"
>
>G'Kar and Bok, in the Animaniacs Episode
>
> "Chickens can't be Narns."
>
>
>"Insanity is part of the times." - Londo Mollari, "Knives." Babylon 5,
>Season 2.
>
Scope's under...
Tim McFeely
dhuf...@awod.com
this only to eliminate the idea that its primary purpose is hotel load. A
reactor startup on the DG would be a fair emergency.
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Dave
toxic fumes for the sake of drill realism. Everyone wonders why we have to
wear EAB's for so long, so lets give 'em a reason ;)
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