TRUMP TO MEET PUTIN - GET HIS MARCHING ORDERS

[jonathan]

Trump's wet dream is to be another Putin.
Trump is a traitor at heart to American values.



BREAKING (@AFP): US President Donald Trump says he expects
to meet his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin during Asian tour
https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/926991027847577602


Counterpart? Doesn't he mean spymaster?


“We may have a meeting with Putin,” he said. “And again,
Putin is very important because they can help us with
North Korea. They can help us with Syria. We have to
talk about Ukraine.”


Putin is going to help America? Trump is relying
on Putin to bail him out on N Korea, Syria and
Ukraine?












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[Fred J. McCall]

jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Trump's wet dream is to be another Putin.
>

You mean your wet dream, don't you?

>
>Trump is a traitor at heart to American values.
>

No, that's you again.

>
>BREAKING (@AFP): US President Donald Trump says he expects
>to meet his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin during Asian tour
>https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/926991027847577602
>
>
>Counterpart? Doesn't he mean spymaster?
>

No, he means 'counterpart', as in "head of state".

>
>“We may have a meeting with Putin,” he said. “And again,
>Putin is very important because they can help us with
>North Korea. They can help us with Syria. We have to
>talk about Ukraine.”
>
>Putin is going to help America? Trump is relying
>on Putin to bail him out on N Korea, Syria and
>Ukraine?
>

Unlikely, but he's one of the few who has any leverage in those
situations. So Trump is smarter than you.


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[Leper]

The dog droppings on Jonathon's front lawn is smarter then he.
Probably smell better too.
>
>


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truths,
because people are made up of lies and half truths. Even Princes.' And
certainly, by definition all Ambassadors and politicians

[Jonathan]

On 11/5/2017 2:47 AM, Leper wrote:
> On 11/4/2017 9:35 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Trump's wet dream is to be another Putin.
>>>
>>
>> You mean your wet dream, don't you?
>>
>>>
>>> Trump is a traitor at heart to American values.
>>>
>>
>> No, that's you again.
>>
>>>
>>> BREAKING (@AFP):  US President Donald Trump says he expects
>>> to meet his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin during Asian tour
>>> https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/926991027847577602
>>>
>>>
>>> Counterpart? Doesn't he mean spymaster?
>>>
>>
>> No, he means 'counterpart', as in "head of state".
>>
>>>
>>> “We may have a meeting with Putin,” he said. “And again,
>>> Putin is very important because they can help us with
>>> North Korea. They can help us with Syria. We have to
>>> talk about Ukraine.”
>>>
>>> Putin is going to help America? Trump is relying
>>> on Putin to bail him out on N Korea, Syria and
>>> Ukraine?
>>>
>>
>> Unlikely, but he's one of the few who has any leverage in those
>> situations.  So Trump is smarter than you.
>
> The dog droppings on Jonathon's front lawn is smarter then he.
> Probably smell better too.
>>
>>
>
>

https://news.vice.com/story/21-things-that-president-trump-says-make-a-bing-sound

[Jonathan]

“I never met Putin,” Trump said at a July 2016 news conference. “I don’t
know who Putin is. He said one nice thing about me. He said I'm a
genius. I said thank you very much to the newspaper and that was the end
of it. I never met Putin.”



“Then Putin said, ’Donald Trump is a genius, he’s going to be the next
great leader of the United States.’ No, no, think of it. They wanted me
to disavow what he said. How dare you call me a genius. How dare you
call me a genius, Vladimir. Wouldn’t it be nice if we actually got along
with Russia? Wouldn’t that be good?"



“Putin said good things about me. He said, ‘he’s a leader and there’s no
question about it, he’s a genius.’ So they all said, the media, they
said -- you saw it on the debate -- they said, ‘you admire President
Putin.’ I said, I don’t admire him. I said he was a strong leader, which
he is. I mean, he might be bad, he might be good. But he’s a strong leader.”


"I have no relationship with him other than he called me a genius,”
Trump said. “He said, ‘Donald Trump is a genius and he is going to be
the leader of the party and he's going to be the leader of the world or
something.’”



Trump tells David Letterman that he’s done “a lot of business with the
Russians” and says they are “smart” and “tough” and that they don’t look
“so dumb right now.” He calls Putin a “tough guy” and says that he “met
him once.”


Trump says he has a relationship with Vladimir Putin:

“I do have a relationship and I can tell you that he’s very interested
in what we’re doing here today,” he said on MSNBC of the Miss Universe
pageant. “He’s probably very interested in what you and I are saying
today, and I’m sure he’s going to be seeing it in some form, but I do
have a relationship with him and I think it’s very interesting to see
what’s happened.”



“I was in Moscow and I was in Russia and they treated me so
fantastically. I met so many incredible people.”


“When I went to Russia with the Miss Universe pageant, (Putin) contacted
me and was so nice. I mean, the Russian people were so fantastic to us,”
he said on “Fox and Friends.” “I’ll just say this, they are doing –
they’re outsmarting us at many turns, as we all understand.



Trump tells a crowd at CPAC that Putin sent him a present during Miss
Universe with a note and he “spoke to all of his people.”


Trump tells Fox Business’ Eric Bolling that Putin was nice to him during
Miss Universe.

“We just left Moscow,” Trump said. “He could not have been nicer. He was
so nice and so everything. But you have to give him credit that what
he’s doing for that country in terms of their world prestige is very
strong.”



”I own Miss Universe, I was in Russia, I was in Moscow recently and I
spoke, indirectly and directly, with President Putin, who could not have
been nicer, and we had a tremendous success.”



Trump tells Jeffrey Lord of the American Spectator that Putin treated
him “unbelievably well” during Miss Universe and cites Putin to say the
term “American exceptionalism” is a “dangerous term.”

Trump also said he received “a gift from Putin – an award and a
beautiful letter.” He does not confirm or deny meeting with Putin when
asked.




“I had the Miss Universe over there two years ago,” Trump tells the City
Club of Chicago. “I got to know these guys well. We can get along with
them well. We can get along with them well.”



“I think I’d get along well with Putin. I know many of the people. I had
a major event there two years ago in Moscow, as you know. It was a
tremendous success. An amazing success. I think I’d get along well with
Putin.”



Trump tells reporters at Trump Tower that “Putin is a nicer person than
I am.”




Trump says Putin has been “very nice” to him:

"I'm saying that I'd possibly have a good relationship. He's been very
nice to me,"


Asked if he’s ever spoken to Vladimir Putin, Trump gives a “no comment”
to Fox News’ Bret Baier.

“Yeah, I have no comment on that,” he said. “No comment.”



Trump tells a local Miami CBS affiliate that he has nothing to do with
Russia and has never met Putin, saying, “But I have nothing to do with
Russia, nothing to do, I never met Putin, I have nothing to do with
Russia whatsoever.”




Trump tells ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that if he were to be elected
president, Putin is “not going into Ukraine.”

“He's not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand,” Trump said.
“He's not going to go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You
can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want.”

Asked about Putin’s previous invasion of Crimea, Trump said, "OK --
well, he's there in a certain way. But I'm not there.




Trump said of Putin at a rally, “I don’t love, I don’t hate.”

“I don’t love, I don’t hate,” he said in Nevada. “We’ll see how it
works. We’ll see. Maybe we’ll have a good relationship. Maybe we’ll have
a horrible relationship. Maybe we’ll have a relationship right in the
middle.”



Trump said at presidential debate: “I don’t know Putin. I think it would
be great if we got along with Russia because we could fight ISIS
together, as an example. But I don’t know Putin.”




And I can tell you, speaking for myself, I own nothing in Russia. I have
no loans in Russia. I don't have any deals in Russia. President Putin
called me up very nicely to congratulate me on the win of the election,”
Trump said.



Trump tells David Letterman that he’s done “a lot of business with the
Russians” and says they are “smart” and “tough” and that they don’t look
“so dumb right now.” He calls Putin a “tough guy” and says that he “met
him once.”



http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/








“I was in Moscow and I was in Russia and they treated me so
fantastically. I met so many incredible people.”

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/4/2017 10:35 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Trump's wet dream is to be another Putin.
>>>
>>
>> You mean your wet dream, don't you?
>>
>>>
>>> Trump is a traitor at heart to American values.
>>>
>>
>> No, that's you again.
>>
>>>
>>> BREAKING (@AFP): US President Donald Trump says he expects
>>> to meet his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin during Asian tour
>>> https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/926991027847577602
>>>
>>>
>>> Counterpart? Doesn't he mean spymaster?
>>>
>>
>> No, he means 'counterpart', as in "head of state".
>>
>>>
>>> “We may have a meeting with Putin,” he said. “And again,
>>> Putin is very important because they can help us with
>>> North Korea. They can help us with Syria. We have to
>>> talk about Ukraine.”
>>>
>>> Putin is going to help America? Trump is relying
>>> on Putin to bail him out on N Korea, Syria and
>>> Ukraine?
>>>
>>
>> Unlikely, but he's one of the few who has any leverage in those
>> situations. So Trump is smarter than you.
>>
>

<JonthySpew Elided - Nothing Left>

Blot, Jonthy. You're going to short something out spraying spittle
like that.


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only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine

[Jonathan]

The spittle were direct quotes from Trump fool.

Trump tells David Letterman that he’s done “a lot of business
with the Russians” and says they are “smart” and “tough”
and that they don’t look “so dumb right now.” He calls Putin
a “tough guy” and says that he “met him once.”

Trump tells a local Miami CBS affiliate that he has nothing
to do with Russia and has never met Putin, saying, “But I
have nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do, I never
met Putin, I have nothing to do with Russia whatsoever.”

When Mueller gets Trump under oath, he'll have a field day.
Trump will commit perjury a dozen times conservatively.

That's why Trump must fire Mueller eventually so Trump
doesn't have to go under oath and commit one felony
after another.

Trump is incapable of telling the truth, he's a bullshit
artist, thing is that skill doesn't get you out of
trouble under oath, but just the opposite.

And we can see how easy it is to buy Trump, just kiss his ass...

“Then Putin said, ’Donald Trump is a genius, he’s going to be
the next great leader of the United States.’ No, no, think of it.
They wanted me to disavow what he said. How dare you call

me a genius. How dare you call me a genius, Vladimir..."

[Wolffan]

On 2017 Nov 04, jonathan wrote
(in article<uMedncCjP-Bq6GPE...@giganews.com>):

I hadn’t thought that you could get worse. I was wrong. Please start taking
your meds. Really.

[Fred J. McCall]

No, Jonthy, that spate of disconnected and out of context bullshit is
the 'JonthySpew'. The spittle is a direct result of your Trump
Derangement Syndrome. Seek treatment.

[David E. Powell]

1. Russia is a major historical partner of North Korea. A lot of their gear is built on Russian patterns. Including certain missiles and a certain submarine that they have fielded recently. Those things should get anyone's attention. Russia, like China, also has a land border with North Korea.

2. Russian presence in Syria has been a concrete fact on the ground there for years. With Iraq trying to enter a post-ISIS period, and the Kurds declaring independence, all of that matters. It also matters that Putin is apparently tight with Iran right now, at least as far as cooperation on the ground. Add Iranian moves regarding Iraq's government and their moves in Yemen - As seen in the Iranian-made Missiles fired at U.S. Navy ships in the Persian Gulf lately. (Or, the Arabian Gulf, as the Saudis, Kuwaitis and quite a few other U.S. Allies like to call it) and there is another reason why talking to Putin is something that is probably very important.

3. Russia has a presence in the Ukraine, as well all know, and the issues there go back a few years, too. A lot of the stuff above goes back way before President Donald Trump was elected to office.

So, those are three reasons why any U.S. President would probably want to get an idea where Putin was going, and try to get him to come to places more comfortable to U.S. interests in those areas of the world.

[Jonathan]

On 11/5/2017 5:08 PM, David E. Powell wrote:
> 1. Russia is a major historical partner of North Korea. A lot of their gear is built on Russian patterns. Including certain missiles and a certain submarine that they have fielded recently. Those things should get anyone's attention. Russia, like China, also has a land border with North Korea.
>

Right Putin is half the reason we have this crisis, and the notion
he's going to turn his back on N Korea to help out his American
friends is idiotic. Putin hates all things America and is
doing every single thing he can to destroy our democracy
and way of life.

The N Korean crisis goes a long way towards Putin's goals
of taking America down in order to raise himself up.

> 2. Russian presence in Syria has been a concrete fact on the ground there for years.

If not for Putin, the revolution would have won in a couple of months
and no FIVE YEAR LONG civil war, sending millions north to disrupt
Europe and NATO, would have happened.

Putin is no friend to America, Europe, NATO or peace, quite the
contrary, as in E Ukraine he loves these unending conflicts
it's his primary strategy for bringing down the west and
spreading his power.

[Jonathan]

On 11/5/2017 5:06 PM, David E. Powell wrote:
> 1. Russia is a major historical partner of North Korea. A lot of their gear is built on Russian patterns. Including certain missiles and a certain submarine that they have fielded recently. Those things should get anyone's attention. Russia, like China, also has a land border with North Korea.
>

> 2. Russian presence in Syria has been a concrete fact on the ground there for years. With Iraq trying to enter a post-ISIS period, and the Kurds declaring independence, all of that matters. It also matters that Putin is apparently tight with Iran right now, at least as far as cooperation on the ground. Add Iranian moves regarding Iraq's government and their moves in Yemen - As seen in the Iranian-made Missiles fired at U.S. Navy ships in the Persian Gulf lately. (Or, the Arabian Gulf, as the Saudis, Kuwaitis and quite a few other U.S. Allies like to call it) and there is another reason why talking to Putting is something that is probably very important.

>
> 3. Russia has a presence in the Ukraine, as well all know, and the issues there go back a few years, too. A lot of the stuff above goes back way before President Donald Trump was elected to office.
>
> So, those are three reasons why any U.S. President would probably want to get an idea where Putin was going, and try to get him to come to places more comfortable to U.S. interests in those areas of the world.
>

The idea of Trump that Putin will help America in any of these
issues is just plain naive to put is nicely.

Putin will be playing Trump for all he's worth.
Just give Trump a couple of compliments and Putin
will strip him down to his shorts.

Trump is a fool.

[Jonathan]

Ya maybe you're right, Trump's word mean nothing at all.


80 times Trump talked about Putin
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/5/2017 5:08 PM, David E. Powell wrote:
>> 1. Russia is a major historical partner of North Korea. A lot of their gear is built on Russian patterns. Including certain missiles and a certain submarine that they have fielded recently. Those things should get anyone's attention. Russia, like China, also has a land border with North Korea.
>>
>
>Right Putin is half the reason we have this crisis, and the notion
>he's going to turn his back on N Korea to help out his American
>friends is idiotic. Putin hates all things America and is
>doing every single thing he can to destroy our democracy
>and way of life.
>
>The N Korean crisis goes a long way towards Putin's goals
>of taking America down in order to raise himself up.
>

Jonthy, you're delusional.

>
>>
>> 2. Russian presence in Syria has been a concrete fact on the ground there for years.
>>
>
>If not for Putin, the revolution would have won in a couple of months
>and no FIVE YEAR LONG civil war, sending millions north to disrupt
>Europe and NATO, would have happened.
>

Again, you're delusional. Does reality never intrude into your mom's
basement?

>
>Putin is no friend to America, Europe, NATO or peace, quite the
>contrary, as in E Ukraine he loves these unending conflicts
>it's his primary strategy for bringing down the west and
>spreading his power.
>

Just how do you think North Korea, Syria, or the Ukraine "brings down
the West"? Be specific. Show us all just how insane you are.

[Fred J. McCall]

So we should just shitcan the State Department, since it is firmly
based on just such "naive" assumptions? How "naive" must Clinton and
Obama be to think that Iran will keep any deal with us?

>
>Putin will be playing Trump for all he's worth.
>Just give Trump a couple of compliments and Putin
>will strip him down to his shorts.
>

You have no conception how international relations work, do you?

>
>Trump is a fool.
>

Put down the mirror and stop using the spray tan, Jonthy. You're
confusing yourself with Trump.

[Fred J. McCall]

Making shit up and pretending I said it again? We know that YOUR word
means nothing at all, Jonthy, because you've TOLD us that you will lie
whenever it supports one of your 'causes'.


--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

[None of the Above]

On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 18:56:19 -0500, Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Ya maybe you're right, Trump's word mean nothing at all.

...and he ~still~ swatted the Hillarbeast...