Submarine Incidents
Scott Sumner
submarine "incidents" collisions, other nation's losses and other items
of interest. There have been over 101 losses due to peacetime incidents.
Please help me revise this......
United States
1862-1872 -- SS Intelligent Whale kills 36 men over this period.
1902 -- SS Adder (SS-?) strikes bottom at 20 feet; blows to surface successfully. (CAPT. Frank T. Cable)
1902 -- SS Adder (SS-?) and SS Moccasin (SS-?) collide on sea trials, damaging both boats seriously.
1863/64 -- SS Hunley (CSS vessel) sank five (5) times killing 35 men.
April 1902 -- SS Fulton experiences hydrogen gas explosion, but survives.
25 March 1915 -- SS Skate/F-4 (SS-23) sinks off Honolulu, with a loss of 21 lives.
1916 -- SS Sturgeon/E-2 (SS-25) explodes in dry dock, killing 4 men.
Dec 1916 -- SS Garfish/H-3 (SS-30) runs aground off Eureka, California.
13 January 1917 -- Cruiser Milwaukee wrecks attempting to refloat SS Garfish/H-3 (SS-30), no casualties.
17 December 1917 -- SS Carp/F-1 (SS-20) and SS Pickerel/F-3 (SS-22), collide off San Pedro, CA;F-1 sinks with 19 men.
1905 -- O-5 (SS-66) Explosion in dry dock kills 4 men.
1919 -- SS Snapper/C-5 (SS-16) sinks at the pier by overzealous battery watering.
1 Sep 1920 -- SS S-5 (SS-110) experiences massive flooding via the main intake and sinks.
Crew manages to raise stern above surface and escapes; the boat is lost.
Dec 1921 -- S-48 (SS-159) sank on builders trials off Connecticut. Crew escapes through torpedo tube. Later raised, recommisioned, ran aground, refloated and served with distinction in World War II.
???? -- S-38 (SS-143) sinks alongside her tender, Ortolan, when a vital sea water valve is removed.
???? -- S-25 (SS-130) rams her tender, also the Ortolan. Ship survives with significant damage to her superstructure.
???? -- R-8 (SS-85) collides with her tender, causing the submarine to sink out of control. Crew regains control and surfaces with significant damage.
Early 20's -- R-14 (SS-91) runs out of fuel at sea. Makes port with makeshift sails.
25 September 1925 -- SS S-51 (SS-162) collides with the steamship City of Rome, and sinks with 33 men off Block Island, RI. 3 men survived.
17 December 1927 -- SS S-4 (SS-109) collides with Coast Guard Cutter Paulding, and sinks with 39 men off Provincetown, MA.
1938 -- SS Snapper (SS-185) floods through main induction mast on shakedown dive; takes on massive amounts of water, but recovers.
23 May 1939 -- SS Squalus (SS-192) sinks during sea trials, with 26 lives lost. The remaining 59 men are rescued. The cause is later determined to be rags in the main induction valve.
20 June 1941 -- SS O-9 (SS-70) sinks with 33 men off Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
25 August 1949 -- SS Cochino (SS-345) experiences battery explosion and sinks. One civilian and 7 crewmen from the assisting ship USS Tusk (SS-426) perish. Ship is lost.
August 1957 -- SS Gudgeon (SS-567) is depth charged in the middle of a Soviet Naval exercise off Vladisvostok.
29 May 1958 -- SS Stickelback (SS-415) is sunk without loss of life in a collision with the destroyer Silverstein near Pearl Harbor.
195? -- SSN Snook (SSN-5??) while on sea trials, snaps shaft off just aft of shaft seals.
195? -- SSN Skate bends screw while surfacing under the ice.
1959 -- SSN Skate (SSN-578) collides with own tender, the USS Fulton (AS-11).
1959 -- SSN Skate (SSN-578) collides with USS Cubera (SS-347). Causes damage to propeller.
18 April 1959 -- US Navy drops the USS Seawolf original plant (liquid sodium SIR) into 9000 feet of water 120 miles off Maryland.
5 October 1959 -- SSN Seadragon (SSN-584) collides with whale, damaging shaft and screw.
June 1960 -- SSN Sargo (SSN-???) has an explosion and fire while loading oxygen. One crew member is killed.
April 1962 -- SSBN Thomas A. Edison (SSBN-610) collides with USS Wadleigh (DDG-???) with only minor damage.
9 May 1962 -- SSN Permit (SSN-594) collides with cargo ship Hawaiian Citizen 35 miles NW of San Francisco, damaging superstructure.
3 June 1962 -- SSN Thresher (SSN-593) collides with harbor tug while mooring, ripping a 3 foot hole in outer hull. This punctures a ballast tank, which requires drydocking and an 18 hour repair.
1963 -- SSN Tinosa (SSN-606) collides with SSBN John Adams (SSBN-620) causing damage on the sonar dome of the Tinosa.
1963 -- SSN Swordfish (SSN-579) collides with Soviet ASW ship during exercise in North Pacific, bending a periscope.
11 January 1965 -- SSBN Ethan Allen (SSBN-608) collides with cargo ship Octavian while at periscope depth in Western Med.
13 October 1965 -- SSN Barb (SSN-596) collides with SSN Sargo (SSN-583) while submerged 15 miles off Oahu.
1966 -- SS Barbel (SS-580) collides and sinks North Vietnamese freighter in Gulf of Tonkin.
10 November 1966 -- SSN Nautilus (SSN-571) collides with CV Essex (CV-65) at periscope depth, causing damages to superstructure.
8 August 1967 -- SSBN Simon Bolivar (SSBN-641) collides with cargo ship Betelgeuse, causing moderate damage to both.
Late 1960's -- SSN Gato (SSN-613) collides with Soviet SSBN. No casualties.
Maye 21, 1968 -- SSN Scorpion (SSN-588) disappears southwest of the Azores with 99 men. In 1993, the US Government it was probably sunk by it's own torpedo.
18 June 1968 -- Johnson-Sea-Link research submarine becomes entangled in wreck off Key West. 2 men perish, 2 rescued with ship.
16 October 1968 -- DSRV Alvin sank in 5051 feet, later raised.
15 May 1969 -- SS Guitarro (SSN-665) is sunk at the pier in Vallejo. No casualties.
June 1970 -- SS Tautog (SSN-639) rams a Soviet submarine while following in close proximity, damaging both.
Dec 1971 -- Pakistani "Ghazi" explodes due to own mine exploding. This ship was previously USS Diablo
(SS-479) sold and recommissioned.
April 21 1973 -- USS Guardfish (SSN-???) has a primary coolant leak while 370 miles south-southwets of Puget Sound. FOur members of the crew are contaminated enough to require hospitalization.
May 1973 -- SSN Sturgeon (SSN-637) collides with island of St. Croix at 10 knots and 300 feet. Sonar Dome smashed flat and foward elliptical leaking. No injuries.
1974 -- Shell Oil's submarine becomes entangled in an anchor line, trapping two crewmen under the North Sea. The ship is freed by divers.
May 1974 -- SSN Pintado (SSN-672) collides with Soviet Yankee class SSBN. No casualties, but one fairwater plane was severely damaged.
9 April 1981 -- SSBN George Washington (SSBN-598) collides with merchantman Nissho Maru, sinks merchant 110 miles south of Sasebo, Japan. 2 deaths.
1982 -- SSN Aspro (SSN-6??) encounters a group of walrus at periscope depth. Involved parties separate without further incident.
24 November 1985 -- SSN Swordfish (SSN-5??) experiances a propulsion accident.
March 1986 -- SSBN Nathaniel Greene (SSBN-636) runs aground in Irish Sea and is severely damaged.
April 1986 -- SSN Atlanta (SSN-712) runs aground in Straits of Gibralter, leaving a hole in a ballast tank.
April 1986 -- Unknown SSN collides with unknown soviet SS/SSN off Northern Africa.
October 1986 -- SSN Augusta (SSN-710) collides with soviet SSN/SSBN.
1987 -- Several net snagging incidents prompt Navy to pay 28,000 pounds t owners of British fishing vessels Heroine and Summner Morn.
April 1988 -- SS Bonefish (SS-582) experiences a battery fire, followed by explosion. Abandoned, 3 crew members perish. Ship is towed and scrapped.
January 1989 -- Unknown SSN/SSBN collides on surface with fishing vessel New Dawn.
April 1989 -- Unknown SSN/SSBN snags British trawler Laurel off Isle of Man.
around 12 June 1989 -- SSN Houston (SSN-713) snags a fishing trawlers net, but net break prior to endangering either craft.
around 12 June 1989 -- SSN Houston (SSN-713) drags harbor tug Barcona under, killing a crew member.
Feb 1992 -- SSN Baton Rouge (SSN-689) collides with Soviet Sierra SSN north of Kola. No casualties, but severe damage to both submarines.
12:46 am 20 March 1993 -- SSN Grayling (SSN-646) collides with Soviet Delta III SSBN at a depth of 220 feet 105 miles north of Kola.
March 1994 -- SSN Jefferson City (SSN-759) strikes the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.
7 November 1994 -- SSN La Jolla (SSN-701) collides with a torpedo retriever.
British
18 March 1904 -- SS A.1 was rammed by Berwick Castle and sank with all hands (14 men).
16 Feb 1905 -- SS A.5 experiences a pair of gasoline explosions, killing 7 men.
1905 -- SS A.8 swamps and then explodes.
1906 -- SS A.9 collides with steamer Coath and sinks to bottom, but crew manages to surface
14 July 1909 -- SS C.11 collides with steamer Eddystone with a loss of 13 lives.
1910 -- Holland 5 runs aground off Fort Blockhouse. No casualties.
2 Feb 1912 -- SS A.3 rammed by it's own tender HMS Hazard off Isle of Wight, sank with all hands (14 men).
1912 -- SS B.2 collides with SS America. Ship survives with moderate damage.
29 Jan 1917 -- SS K.13 sank in Gare Loch (near Firth of Clyde), 48 crew members rescued, 32 are lost.
January 1918 -- SS K.22 jams hard right rudder and collides with SS K.4 while in formation with eight (8) other K-boats. The resultant chain reaction send K.4 and K.17 to the bottom with all hands and severly damages four others.
1919 -- SS L.? is lost off Kronstadt. Raised by Soviets in 1928, and was made into prototype for Leninetz class.
1921 -- SS K.5 sank off Isles of Scilly with all hands (57 men).
November 1925 -- SS M.1 rammed by Swedish collier Vidar, sinks with all hands (69 men).
1929 -- SS H.47 sinks in the Irish Sea, 21 lost.
15 July 1931 -- SS Poseidon collides with steamship Yuta off China coast and sinks. Some crew escapes by free ascent, 30 men lost.
26 January 1932 -- SS M.2 opened ondeck hanger doors while surfacing, and sinks with all hands (60 men).
1932 -- SS H.42 sinks off Gibraltar, 26 lost.
June 1 1938 -- SS Thetis went down during practice dive 99 men dies, 4 escaped. Ship salvaged, recommisioned as HMS Thunderbolt, lost in March 1943 near Sicily.
January 1950 -- SS Truculent collided with Swedish tanker at night.
1951 -- SS Affray fractured it's snorkel mast, flooded and sank with all hands in the English Channel.
16 Jun 1955 -- SS Sidon (Oberon Class) has torpedo explosion in Portland Harbor and sinks.
1971 -- SS Artemis sank pierside. No Casualties.
1982 -- SS Porpoise snags and swamps an Irish fishing boat, no casualties.
1 May 1982 -- SSN Conqueror (Churchill Class) sank Argentinian Heavy Cruiser General Belgrano in combat.
1987 -- SSN Splendid (S Class) collides with unknown soviet SSN/SSBN in the Barents Sea off Murmansk.
March 1991 -- Trawler Pescado struck by submerged SSN.
1990 - SSN Trenchant snags the nets of a Scottish trawler Antares, killing four men on the fishing vessel. A PCO Perisher student was at the conn.
October 1992 - January 1993 -- SSN Vanguard loses 250000 pound towed array during sea trials.
September 1993 -- SSN Valiant strikes rocks during NATO exercise. Commanding Officer fails to report the incident for six weeks.
Soviet
29 Jun 1904 -- SS Delphin swamped by passing steamer, 24 lives lost.
Unknown -- SS Paltus sinks.
1931 -- SS sinks in Gulf of Finland, 50 men lost.
1935 -- SS B3 sinks in Baltic Sea, 55 men lost.
early 1960's -- The "ninth" Hotel I is probably lost during this period.
1961 -- A propulsion accident of unknown magnitude of a Hotel.
11 April 1968 -- Golf II Class SSB, sank off Hawaii in 15,000 feet with all hands, probably due to the liquid fueled SS-N-4 missile. Recovered (partially) by US in 1974.
1968 -- An unknown class with a crew of 90 (probably a Golf or Hotel) fails to return at it's base at Severomorsk. A month long search turns it at the bottom of the Estuary of Kolskiy Zaliv, crew dead but all the food onboard consumed.
1970 -- UNKNOWN SSN/SSBN lost in the Mediterranean.
Feb 1970 -- Hotel SSBN is disabled 600 miles NE of Newfoundland.
12 April 1970 -- November Class SSN sinks 70 miles SW of Britain/300 miles NW of Spain. Cause was a fire, and some of the crew escaped to assisting craft. Ship was probably scuttled.
Feb 1972 -- A propulsion accident of unknown magnitude of a Hotel.
1972 -- Unknown SSN/SSBN experiences a nuclear weapon accident in the foward torpedo room. Several men died quickly, and more later on with the majority of the crew experiencing moderate to severe radiation sickness.
Early 1970's -- UNKNOWN SSN/SSBN lost is Indian Ocean.
Late 1970's -- Hotel Class SSBN lost in Northern Atlantic.
3 June 1975 -- Yankee SSBN is detected 350 miles off Cape Cod, causing much consternation in the Pentagon.
28 August 1976 -- Echo II collides with frigate Voge, with only 1 injury.
1980 -- Echo SSN lost power after a fire in 1980 off Okinawa. Possible attempted mutiny, nine crew dead.
1981 -- Whiskey Class Diesel ran aground near Sweden's Karlsrona Naval Base
June 1983 -- Charlie SSN sank off Kamchatka while departing harbor. 16 men are reported to be lost, while the submarine sinks in 165 feet. This ship is salvaged and is subsequently used as a dockside trainer at Petropavolsk.
November 1983 -- Victor III SSN entangled itself in a US Navy ship's towed array in November 1983 off North Carolina.
1984 -- Victor SSN collides with tanker in Straits of Gibraltar.
21 March 1984 -- A Victor I collides with USS Kitty Hawk, and must be towed to Vladisvostok.
1984 -- Weapons depot explosion near Severomorsk destroys the majority of the North Fleets weapons, including ballistic missiles. The explosion was so large, Western observers thought that it was nuclear in magnitude.
10 August 1985 -- During a reactor refuelling a Victor I SSN, an inadvertant criticality causes a fire and spreads contamination over a wide area near Shktovo north of Vladisvostok.
4 October 1986 -- A Yankee I SSBN 600 miles northeast of Bermuda had a SS-N-6 missile explosion in tube number two. Four crew members died and it sank at 4 am on October 6th. It was carrying 34 nuclear warheads in all.
8 April 1989 -- Mike Class SSN "Komsomolets" sinks off Norway's Bear Island after a fire caused by an electrical short. 42 of the 69 man crew perish.
16 June 1989 -- Echo II SSN has Primary System Accident while off Bear Island in the Barents Sea. Later inspection shows cracks in welded joints, this leads to the retirement of all Hotel, Echo and November submarines. The ships initially snorkels
toward Kola, but breaks down and requires tow.
June or July 1989 -- Alfa experiences a fire off Norway in the Barents. It recovers and returns home.
November 1993 -- Russians admit dumping 18 reactors from submarines off the coast of Novaya Zemlya.
Prior of June 1995 -- SSBN Typhoon experiences severe damage during missile loading accident.
September 1995 -- Russian North Fleet send armed submarine sailors to restore electrical power to thier inport submarines. The power service was terminated due to lack of payment. This is only one of sixteen known similar incidents, one of which
involved the power being restored at "tank barrel point" in the Far East.
Other Nations
Feb 1851 -- German SS Brandtaucher sinks, but all 3 crew members escape (a first).
6 July 1905 -- French SS Farfadet was lost with all hands (14 men) when access hatch failed to close while submerging.
1906 -- French SS Gymnote developed severe leaks and sank with all hands (16 men) off Bizerte.
1906 -- French SS Bonita surfaced under battleship Suffren, causing severe damage to both.
1910 -- Japanese SS Number 6flooded through main induction, sinks in Hiroshima Bay with all hands.
14 Sept 1914 -- Australian SS AE01 lost with all hands.
1918 -- French SS (ex German U-139) sank with all hands.
1923 -- Japanese SS Number 70 lost with 88 men.
1924 -- Japanese SS Number 43 lost with 49 men.
1928 -- Italian SS F-4 sinks after collision in Adriatic, 31 men lost.
1928 -- French SS Ondine sinks after collision off Portugal, 43 men lost.
1929 -- French SS Surcouf sinks after collision.
1932 -- French SS Promethee sinks off Cherbourg with 62 men.
1938 -- French SS Phenix sunk off Indochina in 1938 with all hands (63 men)
1938 -- Japanese SS I-63 sank in Bungo Channel off Japan (SE) with all hands (81 men)
June 1940 -- Polish SS Orzel lost with all hands
19 February 1942 -- French SS Surcouf either accidentally bombed by US planes or run over by SS Thompson Lykes the night before near the eastern entrance of the Panama Canal.
French Laubie SS (ex German U-766) collided with commercial vessel and scrapped.
Late 1940 -- An American salvage company cutting apart the U-147 finds the skeleton of a shipyard worker inside an internal tank. Supposedly, it had a wrench in it's hand.
1952 -- French SS Sibylle (ex British Sportman) lost with all hands near Toulon.
4 Apr 1953 -- Turkish SS Domlupinar (ex US Blower) sank in Dardanelles with all hands.
Polish SS Kurp ran aground.
27 Jan 1965 -- French SS Minerve (Dauphne Class) lost in Western Med. 52 men died.
25 Jan 1968 -- Israeli SS Dakar (Ex-British Totem) lost Eastern Med. 69 men lost.
March 4, 1970 -- French SS Eurydice sinks off Toulon. 57 men are lost.
1974 -- Brazilian SS Tonelero (ex British Oberon Class) has major fire onboard, adding two years to construction time.
Jan 1976 -- Chilean SS Hyatt (ex British Oberon Class) has minor explosion onboard.
25 April 1982 -- Santa Fe (ex American Guppy II) cripped by British ASW helicopter
1985 -- Chinese SSBN (Xia Class) lost with all hands.
1985 -- North Korean SS (Romeo Class) sunk.
1987 -- Chilean SS's O'Brien & Hyatt (Both Oberon Class) collided with one another.
1987 -- Norwegian SS Stadt (Kobben Class) struck bottom. Ship scrapped shortly thereafter.
July 1988 -- Japanese SS Nadashio (Yuushio Class) collides with fishing boat, killing 30 people on trawler. (CO -- Manji Kondo)
26 August 1988 -- Peruvian SS Pacocha (ex US Guppy Class) collides with Japanese fishing boat Kiowa Maru off Callao. Ship sinks, but majority of crew rescued by free ascent. 8 deaths. Captain Tsukasa Okado of the fishing boat is found at fault and
sentenced to two years in prison.
Sept 1990 -- Pakistani SS Hangor (Dauphne Class) collides and badly damaged.
late 1990 -- Norwegian SS Saelen (Tumleren Class 207) sank in the Kattegat River. No casualties.
1992 -- Italian SS Leonardo da Vinci (Sauro Class 1081) collides with Ardito while submerged.
17 July 1993 -- French SSN Rubis (Rubis Class) collides with oil tanker, damaging both severely.
March 1994 -- French SSN Emeraude (Rubis Class) steam leak lost CO & 9 crew members
11 Sept 1994 -- Chilean SS Thompson (ex-US Gato Class) runs over 50 ft ketch Moonglow in Strait of Juan de Fuca between Victoria & Point Renfrew.
All of these items have come from at least two independent sources -- I've
taken some care to ensure that one source did not refer back to the same one
None of these sources are "sea stories", but a sea story sometimes
provides a starting point.
I would appreciate any additions to this list, either posted or privately emailed. Thanks!
S Sumner
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Andrew Toppan
Please keep lines to ~75 characters!
: 23 May 1939 -- SS Squalus (SS-192) sinks during sea trials, with 26
: lives lost. The remaining 59 men are rescued.
Only 33 men were rescued, 26 died.
: 10 November 1966 -- SSN Nautilus (SSN-571) collides with CV Essex (CV-65)
Essex was CV 9, Enterprise was CVN 65.
A couple that might have been missing or might have been lost in the
mega-long lines:
Thresher -- we all know about this one
Barbel -- diving accident in 1989.
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: United States
: April 1962 -- SSBN Thomas A. Edison (SSBN-610) collides with USS Wadleigh (DDG-???) with only minor damage.
: 9 May 1962 -- SSN Permit (SSN-594) collides with cargo ship Hawaiian Citizen 35 miles NW of San Francisco, damaging superstructure.
: 3 June 1962 -- SSN Thresher (SSN-593) collides with harbor tug while mooring, ripping a 3 foot hole in outer hull. This punctures a ballast tank, which requires drydocking and an 18 hour repair.
: 1963 -- SSN Tinosa (SSN-606) collides with SSBN John Adams (SSBN-620) causing damage on the sonar dome of the Tinosa.
: 1963 -- SSN Swordfish (SSN-579) collides with Soviet ASW ship during exercise in North Pacific, bending a periscope.
: 11 January 1965 -- SSBN Ethan Allen (SSBN-608) collides with cargo ship Octavian while at periscope depth in Western Med.
: 13 October 1965 -- SSN Barb (SSN-596) collides with SSN Sargo (SSN-583) while submerged 15 miles off Oahu.
I can't claim to know the date, but didn't the Thresher go down in '63?
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Andrew Toppan
: I can't claim to know the date, but didn't the Thresher go down in '63?
Yes. 10 April 1963. If the list is missing such a well-known
accident, I must wonder if any of it is accurate.
I've grabbed a copy of the list and I'll rework it into a readable
format. Then we can see how accurate it is.
BlackBeard
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> Scott Sumner (sum...@netcom.com) reshaped the electrons to say:
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> Please keep lines to ~75 characters!
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> : 23 May 1939 -- SS Squalus (SS-192) sinks during sea trials, with 26
> : lives lost. The remaining 59 men are rescued.
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> Only 33 men were rescued, 26 died.
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> : 10 November 1966 -- SSN Nautilus (SSN-571) collides with CV Essex (CV-65)
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> Essex was CV 9, Enterprise was CVN 65.
>
> A couple that might have been missing or might have been lost in the
> mega-long lines:
> Thresher -- we all know about this one
> Barbel -- diving accident in 1989.
>
hmmm.. I know of at least 7 other incidents not mentioned but then again,
you did say open lit. ;)
Here's one published in the USS Gurnard's decom brochure...
"... following extensive repairs to her sonar dome which was damaged in a
grounding mishap in May 1989."
BlackBeard
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Brian K. Thomason
>1982 -- SSN Aspro (SSN-6??) encounters a group of walrus at periscope depth. Involved parties separate without further incident.
It would be USS Aspro (SSN-648) out of PH so I doubt if the walrus
incident was during local Op's this had to be the trip to the North
Pole in the fall of 82, but I don't recall any walrus...hmmm. If it
did happen why is biologics close aboard a point of
interest....getting butt F@#$%& by a sperm whale maybe
If this listing is of losses during peacetime than it's missing a lot
more than the Thresher. I don't see any of the many incidents that I
know of,................so it must not be public information yet so I
will just shut up for now....
BKT(SS)
Simon Shpilfoygel
>This is a partial list obtained from newspapers and magazines concerning
>submarine "incidents" collisions, other nation's losses and other items
>of interest. There have been over 101 losses due to peacetime incidents.
>Please help me revise this......
>United States
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Wasn't there an accident with an G-something SS beached and scuttled some time
around 1944?
>25 August 1949 -- SS Cochino (SS-345) experiences battery explosion and sinks. One civilian and 7 crewmen from the assisting ship USS Tusk (SS-426) perish. Ship is lost.
>August 1957 -- SS Gudgeon (SS-567) is depth charged in the middle of a Soviet Naval exercise off Vladisvostok.
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>18 April 1959 -- US Navy drops the USS Seawolf original plant (liquid sodium SIR) into 9000 feet of water 120 miles off Maryland.
I wonder whether it can be considered an accident
[deleted]
The loss of USS Tresher?
>October 1986 -- SSN Augusta (SSN-710) collides with soviet SSN/SSBN.
Are you sure about that? Some Soviet Admiral claimed that the loss of a Yankee
off Bermudas was caused by a collision with a USN SSN which damaged one of
the liquid-fueled missiles and caused fuel spill/fire, but he was laughed at
by his own comrades in arms. Sounds like your source followed this claim.
>1919 -- SS L.? is lost off Kronstadt. Raised by Soviets in 1928, and was made into prototype for Leninetz class.
HMS L.55. Sunk by two Communist DDs - don't recall the names. She surfaced after
launching a torpedo in shallow water and got a couple of 4-inch hits.
>Soviet
>29 Jun 1904 -- SS Delphin swamped by passing steamer, 24 lives lost.
>Unknown -- SS Paltus sinks.
An SS was lost between 1909 and 1911 on Black Sea - rammed by a BB during
an attack drill.
>1931 -- SS sinks in Gulf of Finland, 50 men lost.
>1935 -- SS B3 sinks in Baltic Sea, 55 men lost.
A Holland-class SS was lost some time around 1935 in Black Sea due to another
ram. Subsequently raised and repaired.
There was an early-1960s nuke accident on a November. A couple years ago she
got another nuke accident ( a coolant leak ) and was nicknamed 'Hiroshima'.
>early 1960's -- The "ninth" Hotel I is probably lost during this period.
>1961 -- A propulsion accident of unknown magnitude of a Hotel.
>11 April 1968 -- Golf II Class SSB, sank off Hawaii in 15,000 feet with all hands, probably due to the liquid fueled SS-N-4 missile. Recovered (partially) by US in 1974.
>1968 -- An unknown class with a crew of 90 (probably a Golf or Hotel) fails to return at it's base at Severomorsk. A month long search turns it at the bottom of the Estuary of Kolskiy Zaliv, crew dead but all the food onboard consumed.
Don't recall the Russians declassifying this story. Where did it come from?
>1970 -- UNKNOWN SSN/SSBN lost in the Mediterranean.
Ditto.
>Early 1970's -- UNKNOWN SSN/SSBN lost is Indian Ocean.
Ditto. Also, we can rule out an SSBN - they didn't have a target of any
importance over there.
>Late 1970's -- Hotel Class SSBN lost in Northern Atlantic.
Ditto.
>3 June 1975 -- Yankee SSBN is detected 350 miles off Cape Cod, causing much consternation in the Pentagon.
Definitely not an accident, at least for the Yankee. Won't say so about the
Pentagon, but the latter isn't an SSN :-)
>1980 -- Echo SSN lost power after a fire in 1980 off Okinawa. Possible attempted mutiny, nine crew dead.
Mutiny? Source?
>June 1983 -- Charlie SSN sank off Kamchatka while departing harbor. 16 men are reported to be lost, while the submarine sinks in 165 feet. This ship is salvaged and is subsequently used as a dockside trainer at Petropavolsk.
While she was being repaired she managed to sink again. Was raised but either
the damages or the bad luck prevented the navy from restoring her. Subsequently
scrapped.
>November 1983 -- Victor III SSN entangled itself in a US Navy ship's towed array in November 1983 off North Carolina.
>1984 -- Victor SSN collides with tanker in Straits of Gibraltar.
It was a Soviet Navy tanker
>4 October 1986 -- A Yankee I SSBN 600 miles northeast of Bermuda had a SS-N-6 missile explosion in tube number two. Four crew members died and it sank at 4 am on October 6th. It was carrying 34 nuclear warheads in all.
See in US section. And BTW, why 34 nukes? 12 SLBMs and, may be, a handful of
SUBROC/torpedoes - doesn't sound like 34. How many warheads did a SS-N-6 carry?
>Prior of June 1995 -- SSBN Typhoon experiences severe damage during missile loading accident.
>September 1995 -- Russian North Fleet send armed submarine sailors to restore electrical power to thier inport submarines. The power service was terminated due to lack of payment. This is only one of sixteen known similar incidents, one of which
>involved the power being restored at "tank barrel point" in the Far East.
>Other Nations
>25 Jan 1968 -- Israeli SS Dakar (Ex-British Totem) lost Eastern Med. 69 men lost.
>1985 -- Chinese SSBN (Xia Class) lost with all hands.
Are you sure that it was a Xia? I thought that it was a Chinese derivative of
the soviet Juliet-class - an SSB carrying two SLBMs. She got a missile blowing
up during a trial launch and went down with all hands in Yellow Sea.
>1985 -- North Korean SS (Romeo Class) sunk.
>1987 -- Chilean SS's O'Brien & Hyatt (Both Oberon Class) collided with one another.
>1987 -- Norwegian SS Stadt (Kobben Class) struck bottom. Ship scrapped shortly thereafter.
>July 1988 -- Japanese SS Nadashio (Yuushio Class) collides with fishing boat, killing 30 people on trawler. (CO -- Manji Kondo)
Didn't one Swedish sub sink alongside the pier while the crew was celebrating
something? Say, in 19[6,7,8]? ? I might be wrong about that, of course.
>All of these items have come from at least two independent sources -- I've
>taken some care to ensure that one source did not refer back to the same one
>None of these sources are "sea stories", but a sea story sometimes
>provides a starting point.
Yes, would you mind to post the list of the sources?
Hope that helps,
Simon
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>sum...@netcom.com (Scott Sumner) writes:
>>This is a partial list obtained from newspapers and magazines concerning
>>submarine "incidents" collisions, other nation's losses and other items
>>of interest. There have been over 101 losses due to peacetime incidents.
>>Please help me revise this......
>>United States
<snip>
>>October 1986 -- SSN Augusta (SSN-710) collides with soviet SSN/SSBN.
>Are you sure about that? Some Soviet Admiral claimed that the loss of a Yankee
>off Bermudas was caused by a collision with a USN SSN which damaged one of
>the liquid-fueled missiles and caused fuel spill/fire, but he was laughed at
>by his own comrades in arms. Sounds like your source followed this claim.
<snip>
>>4 October 1986 -- A Yankee I SSBN 600 miles northeast of Bermuda had a SS-N-6 missile explosion in >tube number two. Four
crew members died and it sank at 4 am on October 6th. It was carrying 34 nuclear >warheads in all.
>See in US section. And BTW, why 34 nukes? 12 SLBMs and, may be, a handful of
>SUBROC/torpedoes - doesn't sound like 34. How many warheads did a SS-N-6 carry?
Trust me on this one guys, these two incidents were not the same.
> Hope that helps,
> Simon
Scope's under...
Tim McFeely
ex-TM2(SS)...a dying breed and ex-USS Augusta sailor during 1986
tim...@usa.net
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BlackBeard
Thomason) wrote:
>
> sum...@netcom.com (Scott Sumner) wrote:
>
> >1982 -- SSN Aspro (SSN-6??) encounters a group of walrus at periscope depth. Involved parties separate without further incident.
>
> incident was during local Op's this had to be the trip to the North
> Pole in the fall of 82, but I don't recall any walrus...hmmm. If it
> did happen why is biologics close aboard a point of
> interest....getting butt F@#$%& by a sperm whale maybe
hey Blian, was your CO Cmdr. Gustavson? I was thumbing through the decom
brochure for the Gurnard and I noticed that SUBGRUFIVE (Gustavson) was CO
on the Aspro from 80-83. I met him at the party (food and punch) after
the decom. Seemed like a nice guy. He's a rear adm. now
Alan Ballow
Russian river around 1968. This came to public light about 1975- NY
Times article. The boat returned to NLON after repairs, claiming to have
been in Puerto Rico but had neither rum nor suntans.
USS Bonefish (SS582) had a battery fire off the coast of
Charleston, SC around 1988(?), lost three lives.
Derek Lyons
>hmmm.. I know of at least 7 other incidents not mentioned but then again,
>you did say open lit. ;)
the open lit!
Here is a missing one that is in open lit;
199? USS Sam Houston runs aground in Puget Sound. Submarine is stranded for
several hours and visible from the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.
kfri...@precisionimages.com
special training we were going to go thrrough because of it. (Other than manning the fathometer in the piloting team trainer.)
Ken ex STS2/SS
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Brian K. Thomason
>hey Blian, was your CO Cmdr. Gustavson? I was thumbing through the decom
>brochure for the Gurnard and I noticed that SUBGRUFIVE (Gustavson) was CO
>on the Aspro from 80-83. I met him at the party (food and punch) after
>the decom. Seemed like a nice guy. He's a rear adm. now
Gustavson was the CO of the USS Aspro during the period I was onboard.
I was reading Tom Clancy's non-fiction book "Submarines" and found
that a couple of his operational "sea stories" sounded extremely
familiar. I found Rear Adm. Fred Gustavson on the acknowledgements
page and asked Tom Clancy if it was the CO formerly known as Cmdr.
Fred P. Gustavson from the USS Aspro. Tom confirmed he was one in the
same.
Gustavson was a good CO but his XO was a penis. I was only onboard
for a 18 months before I was booted to a 637 stretch hull the USS
Tunny. The CO on the Tunafish was George Fister.
BKT(SS)
Steve Bartman
I'm working from memory as the list has rolled off my reader, but I
remember thinking when I looked at it that it was missing a pretty big
one:
USS George Washington (circa 1979) strikes Japanese merchant ship at
periscope depth, cutting the ship's keel in half, and sinking her,
with loss of life. G. Washington DIDN'T FEEL THE COLLISION!
This incident had some diplomatic fallout as I recall. Antone have
more/better facts?
Steve
Joel Jensen
efore I was booted to a 637 stretch hull the USS
>Tunny. The CO on the Tunafish was George Fister.
>
>BKT(SS)
GEORGE FISTER!!! Did he still drive a (I think it was a Porsche??)
-JDJ(SS)
Matthew Revelle
>This is a partial list obtained from newspapers and magazines concerning
>submarine "incidents" collisions, other nation's losses and other items
>of interest. There have been over 101 losses due to peacetime incidents.
>Please help me revise this......
USS Georgia sank a YTB (off Guam I think) in the late 80's 1 or 2
people died.
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Matthew Revelle
>199? USS Sam Houston runs aground in Puget Sound. Submarine is stranded for
>several hours and visible from the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.
More like 88 or 89. I was at Bangor when they brought her into
drydock.
Andrew Toppan
: USS Georgia sank a YTB (off Guam I think) in the late 80's 1 or 2
: people died.
Georgia (SSBN 729) sank Secota (YTM 415) on 22 March 1986 off Midway Island.
Andrew Toppan
: I guess i've been out longer than I thought. :-) I didn't remember
: specifics, just the video of it that we had to watch.
Which brings up the question of "how did it happen?"
A SSBN and a YTM don't just accidentally meet in the middle of
the Pacific Ocean (at least not usually). Was the tug waiting
to take the boomer in tow?
BlackBeard
(Steve Bartman) wrote:
>
>
> USS George Washington (circa 1979) strikes Japanese merchant ship at
> periscope depth, cutting the ship's keel in half, and sinking her,
> with loss of life. G. Washington DIDN'T FEEL THE COLLISION!
>
> This incident had some diplomatic fallout as I recall. Antone have
> more/better facts?
>
> Steve
Hmm if I remember this one correctly, I believe it was in late 80 (which
covers circa ;)..
It was during a typhoon somewhere off the staits of malacca (sp) and the
political fallout was due to the fact they violated intn'l maritime law.
Supposedly they surfaced and, it was believed, saw the sinking vessel, and
then submerged again leaving them behind. This was how I "heard" the
story, I have not seen an official report or source. We were on an op in
the IO, details (ie news) was hard to come by.
kfri...@precisionimages.com
> el...@wpi.edu (Andrew Toppan) wrote:
>
> >: USS Georgia sank a YTB (off Guam I think) in the late 80's 1 or 2
> >: people died.
>
> >Georgia (SSBN 729) sank Secota (YTM 415) on 22 March 1986 off Midway Island.
>
> specifics, just the video of it that we had to watch.
>
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>>>>
I didn't think this was public knowledge! I was on board the Georgia when this happened. The thing that sticks out in my mind is the
nuke EM topside who wanted someone to dive in and save the mail bag.
Donald R. McGregor
Len Mizutowicz <jus...@interramp.com> wrote:
:>>1980 -- Echo SSN lost power after a fire in 1980 off Okinawa. Possible
:>>attempted mutiny, nine crew dead.
:>
:>>Mutiny? Source?
:>It was a mutiny. Photos showed some of the crewmembers topside had wounds
:>from either knives of guns.
Wasn't there also a Soviet DD that had a mutiny/was hijacked/went on an
unathorized pleasure cruise to Sweden in the 80's? I think a number
of officers were involved, and the Soviets called in an airstrike
on the ship.
--
Don McGregor | Aubrey and Maturin in '96
mcg...@crl.com |
Len Mizutowicz
Shpilfoygel) wrote:
>1980 -- Echo SSN lost power after a fire in 1980 off Okinawa. Possible
>attempted mutiny, nine crew dead.
>Mutiny? Source?
It was a mutiny. Photos showed some of the crewmembers topside had wounds
from either knives of guns.
Regards;
Len
Brian K. Thomason
>-JDJ(SS)
Yes he did. He was a great CO. He had the work hard play hard attitude
and was very aggressive as a boat driver as well as in his fine choice
of automobiles.
BKT(SS)
dgoble@wombat
the nets of a fishing boat and pulled it under, claiming the lives of the crew.
I think this happened in 1991. From memory the government neither confirmed nor
denied a submarine was involved. The local fishing industry claimed that these
sort of incidents happen regularly although sinkings are rare. Very bitter case
as I recall.
DSG
Kasar
: British sub (HMS Unnamed), while submerged in the Irish Sea allegedly caught
I'd believe that they are.. I read a small blurb in the paper a couple
weeks after the Houston took down that tug that she caught a fishing net
coming into port. It wasn't reported as anything unusual, just had the
fishing boat captain's story about cutting his lines.
John Osborne
The Israeli sub Dakar dissapeared on Feb. 25, 1968
A Soviet Golf II class sub sank on April 11, 1968.
Joel Jensen
Skate, we had every "E" you could earn... Man, did we EVER get a
change of lifestyle when he left... We went from work hard/play hard
to work hard/work hard...
-JDJ(SS)
Brian K. Thomason
The best CO I have ever met, served or heard about. When he was CO
you always got all the "E's", PUC's , MUC,s Expdty's, etc. and when
you were on the beach you could do no wrong. (except mess w/ his pipe
or Porsche). If the navy had more CO's like him....well...
BKT(SS)
moon
somewhere in the Atlantic in 1993?
Brad L. Trostad
>: specifics, just the video of it that we had to watch.
>Which brings up the question of "how did it happen?"
>A SSBN and a YTM don't just accidentally meet in the middle of
>the Pacific Ocean (at least not usually). Was the tug waiting
>to take the boomer in tow?
Almost forgot about that accident. I seem to remember that the Georgia
was doing a PERSTRANS either near Guam or Midway and a line must of parted
while they were underway at a slow bell. While standing lookout on the
maneuvering watch (cool watch BTW) my Captain proceeded to tell me how
a transfer with a tug while underway can get bad fast and I think he was
describing the incident with the Georgia. The line from the bow of the
tug to a cleat aft of the sub's sail must have parted/came free and the
tug starts to fall back. The tug captain probably tried to turn away
too quickly and the tug's screw slices thru a ballast tank like a
hot knife thru butter. Once the tug hits the sub, there's no chance and
the OHIO boat's stabilizer slices right thru the stern of the tug. I
seem to remember the Georgia suffering a torn ballast tank in that
incident, not to mention the tug sinking very rapidly and a few people
going down with it.
- Brad
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> was doing a PERSTRANS either near Guam or Midway and a line must of parted
> while they were underway at a slow bell. While standing lookout on the
> maneuvering watch (cool watch BTW) my Captain proceeded to tell me how
> a transfer with a tug while underway can get bad fast and I think he was
> describing the incident with the Georgia. The line from the bow of the
> tug to a cleat aft of the sub's sail must have parted/came free and the
> tug starts to fall back. The tug captain probably tried to turn away
> too quickly and the tug's screw slices thru a ballast tank like a
> hot knife thru butter. Once the tug hits the sub, there's no chance and
> the OHIO boat's stabilizer slices right thru the stern of the tug. I
> seem to remember the Georgia suffering a torn ballast tank in that
> incident, not to mention the tug sinking very rapidly and a few people
> going down with it.
> - Brad
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Brad Trostad E-mail: tro...@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu
> Graduate Student Phone: (701) 777-3219 or 772-5066
> Electrical Engineering Go Navy!: USS H.M.Jackson SSBN-730 (83...87)
> University of North Dakota
> "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler."
> - Albert Einstein
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>
>>>>
Close, but no cigar!
Ken ex-STS2/SS USS Georgia
Matthew Revelle
> Almost forgot about that accident. I seem to remember that the Georgia
>was doing a PERSTRANS either near Guam or Midway and a line must of parted
>while they were underway at a slow bell. While standing lookout on the
>maneuvering watch (cool watch BTW) my Captain proceeded to tell me how
>a transfer with a tug while underway can get bad fast and I think he was
>describing the incident with the Georgia. The line from the bow of the
>tug to a cleat aft of the sub's sail must have parted/came free and the
>tug starts to fall back. The tug captain probably tried to turn away
>too quickly and the tug's screw slices thru a ballast tank like a
>hot knife thru butter. Once the tug hits the sub, there's no chance and
>the OHIO boat's stabilizer slices right thru the stern of the tug. I
>seem to remember the Georgia suffering a torn ballast tank in that
>incident, not to mention the tug sinking very rapidly and a few people
>going down with it.
Close, but not quite. I suggest you also review what you can to learn
the location/construction of the ballast tanks on a Trident. :-)
I specifically didn't get into details because I can't remember what
information was disseminated beyond a standard "this happened & these
guys died" press release.
Johnnie
U>Close, but no cigar!
I was not crew on Georgia, but that incident (as I recall) was
videotaped by a nuke who happened to have a camcorder on the after
deck. Would that be correct?
Rig
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