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Pete Granzeau

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Aug 17, 2008, 3:13:09 PM8/17/08
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:17:32 -0700, Otis Willie PIO The American War
Library <themilit...@pacbell.net> wrote:

>I Served... LT Jimmy Carter, USN, President of the United States
>Full Name: James Earle Carter, Jr.
>
>WW2 Victory Medal
>Cold War Medal
>Good Conduct Medal
>Korea War Era Acknowledgement
>Submariner Badge
>National Defense Svc Medal
>Ocean Crossing Acknowledgement

I'm sorry. How did an officer earn a Good Conduct Medal?

Roger Conroy

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Aug 17, 2008, 3:47:25 PM8/17/08
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Did he start as an officer?


Fred J. McCall

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Aug 17, 2008, 5:04:16 PM8/17/08
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Pete Granzeau <pgra...@cox.net> wrote:

:On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:17:32 -0700, Otis Willie PIO The American War

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I'm sorry. How did *anyone* get a 'Cold War Medal', which only exists
as a privately struck ego piece and is not a military award at all?

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Fred J. McCall

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Aug 17, 2008, 5:21:14 PM8/17/08
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Yes. He attended Canoe U.

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Raymond O'Hara

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Aug 17, 2008, 6:56:19 PM8/17/08
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"Pete Granzeau" <pgra...@cox.net> wrote in message
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you are responding to the internet fraud ,otis willie aka brooke rowe but in
reality phill{2 Ls}coleman


wrha...@comcast.net

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Aug 17, 2008, 9:07:53 PM8/17/08
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Jimmy Carter was born in 1924 and being sound enough to get
an Annapolis appointment would have been eligible for the
armed services during WWII. On-line materials are scanty
about what he was up to during the war, except that he was
at Georgia Southwestern, Georgia Tech and the Naval Academy
between 1941 and 1946. He would have had some enlisted rank
to get a good conduct award.

Bud

Fred J. McCall

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Aug 17, 2008, 9:19:01 PM8/17/08
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Except if you look at the years there just isn't time for that. If he
was born in 1924 and at various schools from 1941 on, that means he
was all of 17 when he entered university.

So just when would he have been 'enlisted'?

wrha...@comcast.net

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Aug 18, 2008, 12:02:48 AM8/18/08
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There wasn't a student exemption during WWII. He had to be in something
service related.

Bud

tankfixer

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Aug 18, 2008, 12:06:49 AM8/18/08
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Hmm, good question that.
I don't recall him being prior service enilsted...

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tankfixer

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Aug 18, 2008, 12:11:54 AM8/18/08
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In article <574ha4pfqtfbncft8...@4ax.com>,
fmc...@earthlink.net says...

> Pete Granzeau <pgra...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> :On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:17:32 -0700, Otis Willie PIO The American War
> :Library <themilit...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> :
> :>I Served... LT Jimmy Carter, USN, President of the United States
> :>Full Name: James Earle Carter, Jr.
> :>
> :>WW2 Victory Medal
> :>Cold War Medal
> :>Good Conduct Medal
> :>Korea War Era Acknowledgement
> :>Submariner Badge
> :>National Defense Svc Medal
> :>Ocean Crossing Acknowledgement
> :
> :I'm sorry. How did an officer earn a Good Conduct Medal?
> :
>
> I'm sorry. How did *anyone* get a 'Cold War Medal', which only exists
> as a privately struck ego piece and is not a military award at all?

It's one of those authorised but you buy it yourself things
Most soldiers I know don't bother.

Fred J. McCall

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Aug 18, 2008, 2:07:07 AM8/18/08
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He was. He was working toward a commission.

They don't draft you and then let you go to college.

Fred J. McCall

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Aug 18, 2008, 2:11:25 AM8/18/08
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tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote:

:In article <574ha4pfqtfbncft8...@4ax.com>,

:fmc...@earthlink.net says...
:> Pete Granzeau <pgra...@cox.net> wrote:
:>
:> :On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:17:32 -0700, Otis Willie PIO The American War
:> :Library <themilit...@pacbell.net> wrote:
:> :
:> :>I Served... LT Jimmy Carter, USN, President of the United States
:> :>Full Name: James Earle Carter, Jr.
:> :>
:> :>WW2 Victory Medal
:> :>Cold War Medal
:> :>Good Conduct Medal
:> :>Korea War Era Acknowledgement
:> :>Submariner Badge
:> :>National Defense Svc Medal
:> :>Ocean Crossing Acknowledgement
:> :
:> :I'm sorry. How did an officer earn a Good Conduct Medal?
:> :
:>
:> I'm sorry. How did *anyone* get a 'Cold War Medal', which only exists
:> as a privately struck ego piece and is not a military award at all?
:
:It's one of those authorised but you buy it yourself things

:

It's not authorized for wear on the uniform, either, unless they've
changed the rules this year.

:
:Most soldiers I know don't bother.
:

Because, after all, what would be the point?

I have to agree with Congress on this one. I already got one Gedunk
Medal. I don't know why folks think we all need another one.

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up and you'll sleep like a baby afterward. Kill one person with a
bayonet and your dreams will never be sweet again."
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Raymond O'Hara

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Aug 18, 2008, 2:26:49 AM8/18/08
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"Fred J. McCall" <fmc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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it's a freaking phill coleman spam post.
there most likely not a single word of truth in it


frank

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Aug 18, 2008, 11:28:49 AM8/18/08
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On Aug 18, 1:26 am, "Raymond O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com>
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> "Fred J. McCall" <fmcc...@earthlink.net> wrote in messagenews:2d4ia4h30irr4sfjb...@4ax.com...
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> > tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
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> > :In article <574ha4pfqtfbncft8cfleq7oe2qpnt9...@4ax.com>,
> > :fmcc...@earthlink.net says...

> > :> Pete Granzeau <pgranz...@cox.net> wrote:
> > :>
> > :> :On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:17:32 -0700, Otis Willie PIO The American War
> > :> :Library <themilitaryto...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > :> :
> > :> :>I Served... LT Jimmy Carter, USN, President of the United States
> > :> :>Full Name: James Earle Carter, Jr.
> > :> :>
> > :> :>WW2 Victory Medal
> > :> :>Cold War Medal
> > :> :>Good Conduct Medal
> > :> :>Korea War Era Acknowledgement
> > :> :>Submariner Badge
> > :> :>National Defense Svc Medal
> > :> :>Ocean Crossing Acknowledgement
> > :> :
> > :> :I'm sorry.  How did an officer earn a Good Conduct Medal?
> > :> :
> > :>
> > :> I'm sorry.  How did *anyone* get a 'Cold War Medal', which only exists
> > :> as a privately struck ego piece and is not a military award at all?
> > :
> > :It's one of those authorised but you buy it yourself things
> > :
>
> > It's not authorized for wear on the uniform, either, unless they've
> > changed the rules this year.
>
> > :
> > :Most soldiers I know don't bother.
> > :
>
> > Because, after all, what would be the point?
>
> > I have to agree with Congress on this one.  I already got one Gedunk
> > Medal.  I don't know why folks think we all need another one.
>
>  it's a freaking phill coleman spam post.
> there most likely not a single word of truth in it

Well, he would have gotten his commission at 22, gone in at 18 or so,
that's about right. He could have gotten the GCM at the Academy, don't
know how the Navy does that stuff. He graduated in 46, that's about
right. I thought he was younger than that.

Nobody thought the war was going to end anytime soon when he was in.
Operation Olympic was scheduled for late 45, would have been a hard
slog after that. There were still troops in China. I'm damn glad we
had the bomb and used it.

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