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a425couple
May 3, 2012, 12:38:05 PM5/3/12
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It's fairly off topic,
but I figure someone here can answer it easily.
My initial searches = not successful.
I have a chain. It was unused & stored badly for
a long time & rusted, so the 'crust' has fairly
solidly seized some links.
I know Naval Jelly is ideal for this, but can
get fairly troublesome (toxic etc.).
What simple solution will, over days/weeks,
eat away at this corrosion?
(i.e. bleach, vinegar, coca-cola, orange juice, etc.)
but I figure someone here can answer it easily.
My initial searches = not successful.
I have a chain. It was unused & stored badly for
a long time & rusted, so the 'crust' has fairly
solidly seized some links.
I know Naval Jelly is ideal for this, but can
get fairly troublesome (toxic etc.).
What simple solution will, over days/weeks,
eat away at this corrosion?
(i.e. bleach, vinegar, coca-cola, orange juice, etc.)
Eugene Griessel
May 3, 2012, 12:42:44 PM5/3/12
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Op Thu, 3 May 2012 09:38:05 -0700, "a425couple"
Brake fluid works well. But give it time.
Eugene L Griessel
It has been said that although God cannot alter the past, historians
can. It is perhaps because they can be useful to him in this respect
that he tolerates their existence.
- Samuel Butler
Eugene L Griessel
It has been said that although God cannot alter the past, historians
can. It is perhaps because they can be useful to him in this respect
that he tolerates their existence.
- Samuel Butler
Dean
May 3, 2012, 12:51:05 PM5/3/12
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a425couple
May 3, 2012, 1:21:05 PM5/3/12
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"Dean" <dama...@gmail.com> wrote in message...
-Would it not be easier to get a new chain?
Of course it would be,, also safer!
But, that would not satisfy my deeply held
(and flawed) frugal nature!
Of course it would be,, also safer!
But, that would not satisfy my deeply held
(and flawed) frugal nature!
peter skelton
May 3, 2012, 1:47:14 PM5/3/12
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"a425couple" wrote in message news:jnuc9...@news4.newsguy.com...
If it's not too long or heavy, spray it with any light oil, then tow it
along a beach or sandy road about a week later.
along a beach or sandy road about a week later.
La N.
May 3, 2012, 1:54:14 PM5/3/12
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"Eugene Griessel" <eug...@dynagen.co.za> wrote in message
news:6bd5q7lubaajnpnkj...@4ax.com...
> Op Thu, 3 May 2012 09:38:05 -0700, "a425couple"
> <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>It's fairly off topic,
>>but I figure someone here can answer it easily.
>>My initial searches = not successful.
>>
>>I have a chain. It was unused & stored badly for
>>a long time & rusted, so the 'crust' has fairly
>>solidly seized some links.
>>I know Naval Jelly is ideal for this, but can
>>get fairly troublesome (toxic etc.).
>>
>>What simple solution will, over days/weeks,
>>eat away at this corrosion?
>>(i.e. bleach, vinegar, coca-cola, orange juice, etc.)
>
> Brake fluid works well. But give it time.
>
>
How about WD30?
> <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>It's fairly off topic,
>>but I figure someone here can answer it easily.
>>My initial searches = not successful.
>>
>>I have a chain. It was unused & stored badly for
>>a long time & rusted, so the 'crust' has fairly
>>solidly seized some links.
>>I know Naval Jelly is ideal for this, but can
>>get fairly troublesome (toxic etc.).
>>
>>What simple solution will, over days/weeks,
>>eat away at this corrosion?
>>(i.e. bleach, vinegar, coca-cola, orange juice, etc.)
>
> Brake fluid works well. But give it time.
>
>
- nilita
Keith W
May 3, 2012, 2:07:05 PM5/3/12
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jelly - phosphoric acid.
If you get the chain in a watertight container I would
recommend soaking it in dilute phosphoric acid which
is widely used in household cleaners as well as cola
drinks :)
Keith
Dean
May 3, 2012, 3:10:43 PM5/3/12
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On May 3, 1:21 pm, "a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Dean" <damark...@gmail.com> wrote in message...
Heh heh, you and I think alike. I'd first consider a new chain at say
$50. But then I'd think, hmm, I can get some cleaner for $10 and
spend a few hours soaking and scrubbing. Then I'd repeat that twice
and now be up to $30. After all that I'd look at the chain and say,
man that looks crappy and go buy a new chain. Total cost: $80.
> "Dean" <damark...@gmail.com> wrote in message...
$50. But then I'd think, hmm, I can get some cleaner for $10 and
spend a few hours soaking and scrubbing. Then I'd repeat that twice
and now be up to $30. After all that I'd look at the chain and say,
man that looks crappy and go buy a new chain. Total cost: $80.
Eugene Griessel
May 3, 2012, 3:42:18 PM5/3/12
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Op Thu, 3 May 2012 10:54:14 -0700, "La N."
Expensive and not really that good at removing rust en masse.
Eugene L Griessel
If everybody hated you, you'd be paranoid too.
Eugene L Griessel
If everybody hated you, you'd be paranoid too.
Jim H.
May 3, 2012, 3:48:43 PM5/3/12
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On May 3, 1:21 pm, "a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Dean" <damark...@gmail.com> wrote in message...
or local geography....
Double it back on itself several times until it's about 6'-10' long.
Tie it off with whatever you have handy. Find a little-used dirt
road, or better yet freshly-graveled road. Drag it from the trailer
hitch or bumper of your car, with the tied end at the front and off
the ground. Continue a few miles and inspect. Rearrange to put the
parts that were off the ground on the ground, re-tie, continue.
You're letting the links beat against each other as well as the
ground.
May work, may not. Next time oil it before stowing it.
Jim H.
Richard Casady
May 3, 2012, 4:11:01 PM5/3/12
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road and then treat with hydrochloric acid.
Hydrochloric acid dissolves rust almost instantly. You can get it at
swimming pool supply houses and some hardware stores. Cheap.
Casady
Dean
May 4, 2012, 8:04:05 AM5/4/12
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On May 3, 4:11 pm, Richard Casady <richardcas...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2012 21:42:18 +0200, Eugene Griessel
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> On Thu, 03 May 2012 21:42:18 +0200, Eugene Griessel
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> >Op Thu, 3 May 2012 10:54:14 -0700, "La N."
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> >>"Eugene Griessel" <eug...@dynagen.co.za> wrote in message
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> >>> Op Thu, 3 May 2012 09:38:05 -0700, "a425couple"
> >>> <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >>"Eugene Griessel" <eug...@dynagen.co.za> wrote in message
> >>news:6bd5q7lubaajnpnkj...@4ax.com...
> >>> Op Thu, 3 May 2012 09:38:05 -0700, "a425couple"
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> >>>>It's fairly off topic,
> >>>>but I figure someone here can answer it easily.
> >>>>My initial searches = not successful.
>
> >>>>I have a chain. It was unused & stored badly for
> >>>>a long time & rusted, so the 'crust' has fairly
> >>>>solidly seized some links.
> >>>>I know Naval Jelly is ideal for this, but can
> >>>>get fairly troublesome (toxic etc.).
>
> >>>>What simple solution will, over days/weeks,
> >>>>eat away at this corrosion?
> >>>>(i.e. bleach, vinegar, coca-cola, orange juice, etc.)
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> >>> Brake fluid works well. But give it time.
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> >>How about WD30?
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> >Expensive and not really that good at removing rust en masse.
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> >Eugene L Griessel
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> Depending on how bad it is, you might want to drag it down a gravel
> road and then treat with hydrochloric acid.
> Hydrochloric acid dissolves rust almost instantly. You can get it at
> swimming pool supply houses and some hardware stores. Cheap.
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> Casady
That's dangerous. While technically correct, HCl is damned corrosive
> >>>>It's fairly off topic,
> >>>>but I figure someone here can answer it easily.
> >>>>My initial searches = not successful.
>
> >>>>I have a chain. It was unused & stored badly for
> >>>>a long time & rusted, so the 'crust' has fairly
> >>>>solidly seized some links.
> >>>>I know Naval Jelly is ideal for this, but can
> >>>>get fairly troublesome (toxic etc.).
>
> >>>>What simple solution will, over days/weeks,
> >>>>eat away at this corrosion?
> >>>>(i.e. bleach, vinegar, coca-cola, orange juice, etc.)
>
> >>> Brake fluid works well. But give it time.
>
> >>How about WD30?
>
> >Expensive and not really that good at removing rust en masse.
>
> >Eugene L Griessel
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> > If everybody hated you, you'd be paranoid too.
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> Depending on how bad it is, you might want to drag it down a gravel
> road and then treat with hydrochloric acid.
> Hydrochloric acid dissolves rust almost instantly. You can get it at
> swimming pool supply houses and some hardware stores. Cheap.
>
> Casady
and gives off fumes that most people could not deal with
conveniently. It may also violate local/state/federal laws to use it
in such a manner without carefully controlling emissions or spills.
a425couple
May 4, 2012, 11:14:34 AM5/4/12
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"Eugene Griessel" <eug...@dynagen.co.za> wrote in message...
> "La N." <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>"Eugene Griessel" <eug...@dynagen.co.za> wrote in...
I definitely have (as a by product of my 'hobby').
(It getting even more dirty & tainted = just does
not matter to the waste disposal folks!)
I have plenty of patience.
So that will be my step #2, next Monday or ~~.
>>How about WD30?
> Expensive and not really that good at removing rust en masse.
My thanks to everybody who answered & give
advise, information, & ideas.
I'd like to answer all particulars more,,,
but time is tight & I'm pretty well loaded up for
a weekend away
(LaN - I'm headed south this weekend!
Your neighborhood is next month).
First someone contacted me off the ng and suggested
I google = rust vinegar.
It was cheap & on hand, so, #1 step, I put the
worst siezed links in bottom of a small bucket &
put some vinegar in. & agitated. It can sit until Monday.
I will try to remember to update here on results
of step #1, then #2, then whatever next stunt
I decide on!
> "La N." <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>"Eugene Griessel" <eug...@dynagen.co.za> wrote in...
>>> "a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>I have a chain. It was unused & stored badly for
>>>>a long time & rusted, so the 'crust' has fairly
>>>>solidly seized some links.
>>>>I know Naval Jelly is ideal for this, but can
>>>>get fairly troublesome (toxic etc.).
>>>>
>>>>What simple solution will, over days/weeks,
>>>>eat away at this corrosion?
>>>>(i.e. bleach, vinegar, coca-cola, orange juice, etc.)
>>>
>>> Brake fluid works well. But give it time.
OK, used brake fluid (awaiting proper disposal)
>>>>I have a chain. It was unused & stored badly for
>>>>a long time & rusted, so the 'crust' has fairly
>>>>solidly seized some links.
>>>>I know Naval Jelly is ideal for this, but can
>>>>get fairly troublesome (toxic etc.).
>>>>
>>>>What simple solution will, over days/weeks,
>>>>eat away at this corrosion?
>>>>(i.e. bleach, vinegar, coca-cola, orange juice, etc.)
>>>
>>> Brake fluid works well. But give it time.
I definitely have (as a by product of my 'hobby').
(It getting even more dirty & tainted = just does
not matter to the waste disposal folks!)
I have plenty of patience.
So that will be my step #2, next Monday or ~~.
>>How about WD30?
> Expensive and not really that good at removing rust en masse.
advise, information, & ideas.
I'd like to answer all particulars more,,,
but time is tight & I'm pretty well loaded up for
a weekend away
(LaN - I'm headed south this weekend!
Your neighborhood is next month).
First someone contacted me off the ng and suggested
I google = rust vinegar.
It was cheap & on hand, so, #1 step, I put the
worst siezed links in bottom of a small bucket &
put some vinegar in. & agitated. It can sit until Monday.
I will try to remember to update here on results
of step #1, then #2, then whatever next stunt
I decide on!
Weatherlawyer
May 7, 2012, 9:04:45 AM5/7/12
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On May 3, 6:21 pm, "a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Dean" <damark...@gmail.com> wrote in message...
So what are you going to entrust to this trusty rusty?
BTW hydrochloric acid is sold by the gallon in DIY shops. (Builders
merchants anyway.) It is used to clean bricks. Phosphoric acid s the
more traditional method as it leaves a black impervious layer. I have
no idea where you would get that though.
> "Dean" <damark...@gmail.com> wrote in message...
BTW hydrochloric acid is sold by the gallon in DIY shops. (Builders
merchants anyway.) It is used to clean bricks. Phosphoric acid s the
more traditional method as it leaves a black impervious layer. I have
no idea where you would get that though.
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