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Jim Cline (har...@onramp.net) writes:
> Thought it might be interesting to start a thread on nicknames of U.S.
> Navy ships, both the semi-official and the more "colorful" ones. I'll
> start with the U.S.S Benjamin Franklin, a WW-II carrier affectionately
> called Big Ben by her crew.
Why just the USN?
Off the top of my head:
WWI RN
Renown and Repulse Refit and Repair
Furious, Glorious, Courageous Spurious, Curious, Outrageous
Inter-war RN
Nelson, Rodney Nelsol, Rodnol
WWII RN
Warspite the Old Lady
Penelope Pepperpot
WWII RCN
St. Laurent Sally Rand
Restigouche Rusty-Guts
WWII USN
Houston (CA) Galloping Ghost (of the Java Coast)
GaryJ
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Let's start a count of -
1. How many corrections are made to the above<g> -
Just for the record; there was no USS Benjamin Franklin, a WW-II
carrier. There was the USS Franklin(CV-13), a WW-II carrier. And she may
have, or not, been named for Ben Franklin. Or named after the Battle of
Franklin, a minor(?) civil war engagement in Tenn.(IIRC).
2. How many threads this has been involving the carrier Franklin and how
long it will continue based on point 1.<g>
Mike Weeks MIC...@aol.com
+In article <harmaty-2705...@stemmons68.onramp.net>,
+har...@onramp.net (Jim Cline) writes:
+<snip>
+>... I'll
+>start with the U.S.S Benjamin Franklin, a WW-II carrier affectionately
+>called Big Ben by her crew.
+
+Let's start a count of -
+
+1. How many corrections are made to the above<g> -
+
+ Just for the record; there was no USS Benjamin Franklin, a WW-II
+carrier. There was the USS Franklin(CV-13), a WW-II carrier. And she may
+have, or not, been named for Ben Franklin. Or named after the Battle of
+Franklin, a minor(?) civil war engagement in Tenn.(IIRC).
+
+2. How many threads this has been involving the carrier Franklin and how
+long it will continue based on point 1.<g>
Or as to whether she was "fully repaired." (Big Groan)
Nick
W.E. Nichols The difference between participation and commitment
w...@infi.net is illustrated at breakfast. The chicken participates.
The pig is committed.
>Or as to whether she was "fully repaired." (Big Groan)
You're right, I forgot the third point. Let's start over.<BG>
Mike Weeks MIC...@aol.com
>Thought it might be interesting to start a thread on nicknames of U.S.
>Navy ships, both the semi-official and the more "colorful" ones. I'll
>start with the U.S.S Benjamin Franklin, a WW-II carrier affectionately
>called Big Ben by her crew.
The Uss Brinkley Bass (DD-887) in her later years was showing signs of
concave hull plating around the stern section. The ever present
threat from some of the BM's was to paint out the "B's" leaving us to
sail around the ocean as the "_rinkley _ass".
I don't think anyone actually has the balls to do it.
Brad
DCA/Eng
USS John Stennis: Johnny Reb
USS Forrestal: FID, Forrest Fire, Firestal
USS Enterprise (CVN-65): Starship
USS Carl Vinson: Starship (until she finished her first cruise and ended
up in Alameda with the Enterprise), Battlestar (both name deriving from
the extensive computerization she carried, unique to the fleet at that
time).
John Eckhardt
USS New Orleans - NO Boat
USS Okinawa - Brokinawa
USS Tripoli - Cripoli
USNS Hassayampa - Humpin Hass
Joseph E. Kerley, III (the...@aol.com)
As a man thinks in his heart, so he is.
USS Honolulu - nicknamed "the Blue Goose" after the
state bird. Especially appropriate when she wore the
all blue camouflage scheme.
USS Salt Lake City - nicknamed "Swayback Maru" because
of her pronounced sheer fore and aft.
Kip
>
> Jim Cline (har...@onramp.net) writes:
> > Thought it might be interesting to start a thread on nicknames of U.S.
> > Navy ships, both the semi-official and the more "colorful" ones. I'll
> > start with the U.S.S Benjamin Franklin, a WW-II carrier affectionately
> > called Big Ben by her crew.
>
USS FRANKLIN (CV-13)
31 JAN l944 Commissioned at Newport News, VA
13 OCT l944 Damaged by suicide plane 22*55'N, 123*12'E (Luzon Area)
15 OCT l944 Damaged by horizontal bomber 16*29'N, 123*57'E (P.I. Area)
30 OCT l944 Damaged by suicide plane 10*20'N, 126*40'E (Leyte Area)
19 MAR 1945 Damaged by horizontal bomber 32*01'N, 133*57'E (Kyushu Jap)
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
- N. Peart
> Thought it might be interesting to start a thread on nicknames of U.S.
> Navy ships, both the semi-official and the more "colorful" ones. I'll
> start with the U.S.S Benjamin Franklin, a WW-II carrier affectionately
> called Big Ben by her crew.
>
Okay, some oldies, but goodies:
Bon Homme Richard: the Bonnie Dick
Kearsarge: the Kay, the Queerbarge, the Corsage
Valley Forge: Death Valley (due to a devastating fire during the
Korean
War)
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In article <harmaty-2705...@stemmons68.onramp.net>, har...@onramp.net (Jim Cline) writes:
>
> Thought it might be interesting to start a thread on nicknames of U.S.
> Navy ships, both the semi-official and the more "colorful" ones. I'll
> start with the U.S.S Benjamin Franklin, a WW-II carrier affectionately
> called Big Ben by her crew.
>
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> Jim Cline * har...@onramp.net * Author of "A Small Percentage"
> Audio (free) : http://ww2.audionet.com/pub/books/asp/asp.html
> The scorecard: http://rampages.onramp.net/~pseaman/jcline1.htm
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Well, a couple of the older CV's were the Sorry Sara (Saratoga) and the
Forestfire (Forestal, a nickname which it richly deserved). On the Long
Beach, we had our own name for our vessel, which may or may not have had
something to do with the radar array being a "big box".
TJ
Following stolen from Andrew Toppen
http://www.wpi.edu/~elmer/navy.html
CV 13/CVA 13/CVS 13/AVT 8 Franklin
Built by Newport News, laid down 7 Dec 1942, launched
14 Oct 1943, commissioned 31 Jan 1944. Kamikaze at Luzon
15 Oct 1944 and 30 Oct 1944. Severe bomb damage off Kyushu
19 Mar 1945, most severely damaged carrier to reach port,
hangar and flight deck totally destroyed, hull gutted, nearly
sunk. All structure from the hangar floor up, except island
and foward flight deck, removed and replaced during
reconstruction
at New York Navy. Did not resume flight operations,
decommissioned
17 Feb 1947. Was in excellent condition, held in reserve for
potential "ultimate" Essex class conversion. To CVS 8 Aug 1953,
to AVT 5/59, stricken 1 Oct 64, sold 7/1966, scrapped Norfolk
1966-1968.ml
> USS Enterprise: The Pig
> USS Mississippi: Mudsucker
To Virginia sailors (USS Virginia, sister ship), she was the Mudpuppy.
> USS Bainbridge: The Braindamage (called it this for so long it takes
effort not to...)
You mean it's not Bainbridge that's the nickname!?!?
Lot of people on Virginia called our ship The War Pig (I'd be interested
to know how many other ships were called that) I always thought it wasn't
deserved, that's a beautiful class of ships.
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USS Kearsarge CVS-33. Gay K. & Queer Barge
USS Ticonderoga CVA-14. Tico or Tiger. Never heard anything else.
USS Inchon LPH-12. Inchworm, Grunt Hilton, Grey Taxi.
Bill in New Mexico
We call her "the Ghetto Ship"
BOB!!
>My father was on the Yorktown in world war II. Its now a museum in
>Charleston. I have his book and a documentary made during the war.
>It was called the "Lucky Lady" and the "Battling Bitch." A lot of the
No, she was called the "Fighting Lady" which makes the second nickname
(which I've never heard before) more sensible. My dad was on both
the Essex and Yorktown in '55 and '56.
>battle footage you see in old movies was shot on the Yorktown. I
>didn't know for years it was in color but reduced to black and
>white for old war movies. It only took one direct hit killing some
>some of the crew. One kamacaize (sp?) passed about twenty feet over
>the deck on fire and crashed off the bow. He said it singed his
>hair.
>On 28 May 1996, Gary J. Mac Donald wrote:
>
>>
>> Jim Cline (har...@onramp.net) writes:
>> > Thought it might be interesting to start a thread on nicknames of U.S.
>> > Navy ships, both the semi-official and the more "colorful" ones. I'll
>> > start with the U.S.S Benjamin Franklin, a WW-II carrier affectionately
>> > called Big Ben by her crew.
>>
: USS Salt Lake City - nicknamed "Swayback Maru" because
USS Okinawa -- USS Brokinawa. What can I say, she was an LPH (Lame
Ponderous Hulk). May she end up as a next generation Yugo.
USS Tripoli -- USS Cripoli. Another LPH...
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> USS Enterprise: The Pig
> USS Mississippi: Mudsucker
> USS Bainbridge: The Braindamage (called it this for so long it takes effort not to...)
> USS A. Burke: The Always Broke
> USS America: Hostile Surface Contact (due to her manuevers in the battlegroup and lack of information
> passed to screening ships)
> USS Truxton: Goddamn Ugly Ship. (Somebody say 'Sale on Erector sets?')
Looks like this thread is on again
USS Kearsarge: The Queerbarge
USS Saipan: The S**tcan
USS Harry E. Yarnell: The Hairy Urinal
USS Wabash: The Ballrash
USS Vincennes: RoboCruiser
USS Saratogo: The Sparrowtoga (After she nailed the Turk DD)
I'll think of more
WW II CV's:
Intrepid =Evil Eye
Cowpens =Mighty Moo
Prince William =Pee Willie (CVE)
Tom Cooney = I used to be a hippie--
afn0...@afn.org = but my dogma got run over by the karma !
Miantonomoh = My aunt don't know me !
Whatever,
USS Salem: Sea Witch
USS Des Moines: Daisy Mae
Merlin Dorfman
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+>battle footage you see in old movies was shot on the Yorktown. I
+>didn't know for years it was in color but reduced to black and
+>white for old war movies.
Here is an interesting question for some one. Why was the Navy the only one
to shoot most of its footage in color.
Nick
W.E. Nichols The difference between participation and commitment
w...@infi.net is illustrated at breakfast. The chicken participates.
The pig is committed.
Missouri was also called the War Pig, mainly by her JO's. If you've ever
been astern of a BB, especially in a small boat, this really fits.
- Grover
USS Omaha: "Oh! My Ass Hurts Again!"
USS Olympia: "Only Lovely Young Maidens Presently Invited Aboard"
Don't forget the ever popular SuckinSara, before and after the above
event!
Most such nicknames I've heard could hardly be described as
"affectionate." Well, maybe "Chuckie V." for CARL VINSON. A couple
of others not yet mentioned in the thread:
USS Nimitz USS Numb-nuts
USS Lake Champlain USS Lake Complain ('93 WestPac/IO/Gulf deploy-
ment only, a reference to her Ops dep't's
inability to make up its mind what helo
services it wanted, then whining incessantly
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Baberaham!
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>WW II CV's:
>Intrepid =Evil Eye
The ones I've heard are "Dry I" and "Decrepid"
for all the time she spent in drydock. (Don't have
any idea if they're really applicable, but with
"Queer Barge" for Kearsarge, does it matter?)
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USS Pubic Mound (Puget Sound)
USS Never No (Newport News - from the NN on our ball caps)
Actually the Ike got to have that distinction. I always thought it was
funny, the first CVN (and I think combatant) to get women has a hull number
of 69. Some has a sense of humor somewhere.
>
> Baberaham!
>
>
>
>
>
>Actually the Ike got to have that distinction. I always thought it was
>funny, the first CVN (and I think combatant) to get women has a hull
number
>of 69. Some has a sense of humor somewhere.
And I heard that Mamie became her nickname.
Mike Weeks MIC...@aol.com
Because ships were big enough to have photo labs but back packs weren't?
Been over 30 years since I took my high school photog class but I seem to
recall needing more space to do color.
Bill in New Mexico
My grandfather was transported in the Pacific on a cruiser he called "The Gray
Ghost," I think the USS Houston.
+In article <Pine.OSF.3.91.960601...@ucs.orst.edu>, Brian
+Varine <var...@ucs.orst.edu> writes:
+
+>Actually the Ike got to have that distinction. I always thought it was
+>funny, the first CVN (and I think combatant) to get women has a hull
+number
+>of 69. Some has a sense of humor somewhere.
+
+And I heard that Mamie became her nickname.
Geez, I hope not.
>ja...@nwlink.com (Jack Love) Banged on the keyboard and wrote:
>
>+>battle footage you see in old movies was shot on the Yorktown. I
>+>didn't know for years it was in color but reduced to black and
>+>white for old war movies.
>
>Here is an interesting question for some one. Why was the Navy the only one
>to shoot most of its footage in color.
Color cameras were much heavier?? And no one else could a) afford
the weight penalty; b) talk anyone into toting them around?
Ahh, some sub names.
These have been said before, but here goes.
USS Philadelphia: Filthydelphia
USS Dallas: Ballastfish
USS Hyman G. Rickover: Hymie G.
USS Augusta: Disgusta, or Bumperfish, or Oh, Shitfish
USS Archerfish: A-fish
USS Boston: Lostone
USS Tullibee: Building 583 (??)
USS City of Corpus Christie: City of, or Corpus Delecti
USS Pittsburgh: Shitsburg
Some more may come to mind later.
Scope's under...
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: USS Tullibee: Building 583 (??)
That is proabably the result of a ling yard period. We called our boat
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Obviously someone who was envious of her! I always heard "starship" or
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> Obviously someone who was envious of her! I always heard "starship" or
>"big-E".
Or "the 'Prise."
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>lha...@knet.flemingc.on.ca (Larry Hadley) wrote:
>> Obviously someone who was envious of her! I always heard "starship" or
>>"big-E".
>Or "the 'Prise."
On our 1982 NORPAC cruise we called her the 'TARGET' ;-)
Buzz
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> The Salt Lake City .....Slave Labor Camp
Were you on the SLC? If so, when? I had a buddy that transferred to her
after I got out of the Navy. Dan Perkins QMC(SS) ring a bell? This was
in the early to mid 80's.
BlackBeard
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De Profundis
Mamie was the name of her COD before it was lost in the Med in the mid
80s in a utility flight from Sigonella to Palma and back. A VR-24 bird
was lost at the same time. No survivors from either aircraft.
Don't know if Mamie got replaced or not.
Bill in New Mexico
Dodn"t know we used Chinese shopyards for sub iverhauls.
Bill in New Mexico
+MICOMA (mic...@aol.com) wrote:
+: And I heard that Mamie became her nickname.
+
+Mamie was the name of her COD before it was lost in the Med in the mid
+80s in a utility flight from Sigonella to Palma and back. A VR-24 bird
+was lost at the same time. No survivors from either aircraft.
Do you have dates and the circumstances?
John Eckhardt.
Ahh, no i would not call it a long yard period. Liberty maybe, but not
yard. She got that nickname from the many years she sat at the NLON sub
base docks because she couldn't leave without something breaking. it was
Building 587 I think (whatever her hull number was).
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>MICOMA (mic...@aol.com) wrote:
>: And I heard that Mamie became her nickname.
>
>Mamie was the name of her COD before it was lost in the Med in the mid
>80s...
My reference was when the carrier went coed a couple of years ago. Not
her COD.
Mike Weeks MIC...@aol.com
: Do you have dates and the circumstances?
Don't recall the exact date. Was 84 or 85. 2 C-1s made a routine utility
run from Sigonella to Palma without incident. Enroute back to Sigonella
both aircraft went into the drink. Other than a single raft no wreckage
or victims were ever located.
No emergency calls were received from either aircraft and no witnesses so
only speculation is possible. Pilot of one of the aircraft was the wife
of the pilot of the other aircraft. The two theories that seemed to
predominate were that they either had a midair collision or that one
aircraft developed a problem and the other followed it into the drink.
Bill in New Mexico
Even before that the CODs in the Med were farmed out to VR-24 because it
enabled the CVs to not carry AvGas. I think it was the AvGas and not the
accident that caused the USN to quit putting C-1s on CVs. Deck space
considerations were probably another factor.
On Inchon we had to anchor outside the harbor because we had Marine
vehicles that used MoGas in Genoa. It was not always a fun boat ride.
Bill in New Mexico
+Even before that the CODs in the Med were farmed out to VR-24 because it
+enabled the CVs to not carry AvGas. I think it was the AvGas and not the
+accident that caused the USN to quit putting C-1s on CVs. Deck space
+considerations were probably another factor.
That may have been, but the determining factor was that we were running out
of C-1s.
+W.E. Nichols (w...@infi.net) wrote:
+: wrol...@nmsu.edu (W. ROLLINS) Banged on the keyboard and wrote:
+: +Mamie was the name of her COD before it was lost in the Med in the mid
+: +80s in a utility flight from Sigonella to Palma and back. A VR-24 bird
+: +was lost at the same time. No survivors from either aircraft.
+
+: Do you have dates and the circumstances?
+
+Don't recall the exact date. Was 84 or 85. 2 C-1s made a routine utility
+run from Sigonella to Palma without incident. Enroute back to Sigonella
+both aircraft went into the drink. Other than a single raft no wreckage
+or victims were ever located.
I recall Mamie going down, but I do believe it was prior to 82. I also
think you will find that a run from Sig to Palma is way out of range for a
C-1. Shit, it's a 5-6 hour run in a 130 from Sig to Rota. C-1 flights over
water were restricted to something like 250 miles solo and about 350 with an
escort. There was two C-1s that went in together, but I seem to think that
it may have been over in the Souda Bay area.
>Here is an interesting question for some one. Why was the Navy the only
>one to shoot most of its footage in color.
From a photographic standpoint, the most logical reason is storage of the
film. Even today, color film is sensitive to temperature and humidity
extremes. Ever leave color film in your car during summertime? During WW2
it was extremely sensitive; color movie film was relatively new and even
Hollywood was very limited in its usage. Most ships could store film in a
refrigerator (still a recommended practice) up until the time it was loaded
into the camera.
Doubt that many ships processed their own. Although the carriers may have
had facilities for B&W movies (i.e., gun cameras), color processing was
substantially more complicated. I suspect that much of the color film was
actually flown back to Hollywood for processing by the movie industry.
Since much of it was shot by Hollywood professionals, they certainly had the
connections.
Could not have been prior to 82. It happened while I was at NAS Sigonella
AIMD and I didn't get there till 83. Don't know if they had a fueling
stop in Sardinia or not. VR-24 maintained a more or less permanent det at
Souda Bay when carriers operated in the eastern Med.
Bill in New Mexico
> NOW I know why you're crazy! I was in Sig from 72-75. Did they still do
> the "1 finger up means I'm hitching to NAF 1" thing?
I got there in May 82 at the Navy Calibration Laboratory. Then
transferred to AIMD and they still had the one and two finger hitch hiker
signals.
>
> I was on the LOX farm when it was where the Auto Hobby Shop went. Then I
> was in Special Services. A pit-snipe on shore don't get no meaningful jobs.
>
I begged to go to Special Services. I wanted to run the Bowling Alley in
the worst way but I got stuck being the AIMD LCPO which was a job that
didn't exist but was traditional.
> Ever get attacked by an APB?
Yep, I had one hit my windshield when I was doing 160 KMH and just hung
on the wiper. We soaked that sucker in Battery acid, dunked it in LOX and
put it the microwave for 2 minutes and it still wouldn't die.
Genuine evil beasts those APBs.
Tina the Cat Woman still had her business and Mobil 1 and Mobil 2 had a
couple of new competitors move in.
I lived in Motta Santa Anastacia the whole 3 years because I never got
offered base housing. I loved it, no phone so they had to need me really
bad to come get me. Had to watch TV in Italian because AFRTS couldn't
reach me. Channel 55 ran porno films after 10PM so UUUUMMMMM and AAAAHHH
didn't need translated.
Bill in New Mexico
What happened to the US-3A CODS?
+W.E. Nichols (w...@infi.net) wrote:
+: I recall Mamie going down, but I do believe it was prior to 82. I also
+: think you will find that a run from Sig to Palma is way out of range for a
+: C-1. Shit, it's a 5-6 hour run in a 130 from Sig to Rota. C-1 flights over
+: water were restricted to something like 250 miles solo and about 350 with an
+: escort. There was two C-1s that went in together, but I seem to think that
+: it may have been over in the Souda Bay area.
+
+Could not have been prior to 82. It happened while I was at NAS Sigonella
+AIMD and I didn't get there till 83. Don't know if they had a fueling
+stop in Sardinia or not. VR-24 maintained a more or less permanent det at
+Souda Bay when carriers operated in the eastern Med.
After reflecting on this, it happened on the 81-82 deployment. I remember
the Skipper telling me of the adverse affect it had on the crew. Especially
a couple of shops in AIMD.
+I got there in May 82 at the Navy Calibration Laboratory. Then
+transferred to AIMD and they still had the one and two finger hitch hiker
+signals.
Was there a Lt Forrest there? Female type, may have had the jet shop.
>What happened to the US-3A CODS?
I believe they went into storage.
Mike Weeks MIC...@aol.com
: Was there a Lt Forrest there? Female type, may have had the jet shop.
Don't recall any Lt Forrest. Mary Worth was the only female officer in
AIMD. There was another female officer in OMD but don't recall her name.
Bunch of them in VR-24 but didn't know any of them.
Bill in New Mexico
wrol...@nmsu.edu (WILLIAM HAROLD ROLLINS) Banged on the keyboard and wrote:
+W.E. Nichols (w...@infi.net) wrote:
+: I recall Mamie going down, but I do believe it was prior to 82. I also
+: think you will find that a run from Sig to Palma is way out of range for a
+: C-1. Shit, it's a 5-6 hour run in a 130 from Sig to Rota. C-1 flights over
+: water were restricted to something like 250 miles solo and about 350 with an
+: escort. There was two C-1s that went in together, but I seem to think that
+: it may have been over in the Souda Bay area.
+
+Could not have been prior to 82. It happened while I was at NAS Sigonella
+AIMD and I didn't get there till 83. Don't know if they had a fueling
+stop in Sardinia or not. VR-24 maintained a more or less permanent det at
+Souda Bay when carriers operated in the eastern Med.
After reflecting on this, it happened on the 81-82 deployment. I remember
the Skipper telling me of the adverse affect it had on the crew. Especially
a couple of shops in AIMD.
The flight crew of the COD were attached to AIMD. I was stationed onboard
"IKE" from Jan78 to May79 and that was how they were assigned at that time.
Rich Bednarz
: The flight crew of the COD were attached to AIMD. I was stationed onboard
: "IKE" from Jan78 to May79 and that was how they were assigned at that time.
Different incident. None of the crew involved were Ike folks. Was
definitely after 83 and before May-85. All crew were VR-24 folks who
commonly took custody of CODs and a few other aircraft off Med CVs. CAG
det had there own spaces but weren't much.
Bill in New Mexico
+W.E. Nichols (w...@infi.net) wrote:
+
+: Was there a Lt Forrest there? Female type, may have had the jet shop.
+
+Don't recall any Lt Forrest. Mary Worth was the only female officer in
+AIMD. There was another female officer in OMD but don't recall her name.
+Bunch of them in VR-24 but didn't know any of them.
She was there about 85 or 86. Red headed and flat footed. You wouldn't
have liked anyway. I trained her. She was another one of my crash captains
at Fentress. She was a Lt the last time she took me to dinner at the Light
House in Catania. Was a Lcdr and the Maintenance Officer in the A-6 rag,
the last time I talked to her.
>Shemyadog wrote:
>>
>> Don't think Mamie was repalced. The CVs lost their organic CODs soon
>> after that. Probably something to do with the retirement of the C-1s,
and
>> getting the AVGAS off the boat.
>>
>> John Eckhardt.
>
>What happened to the US-3A CODS?
I was never on a WESTPAC, but weren't the US-3s a Squadron, rather than
ship asset. I understand that the US-3As havew been (or are being)
retired.
John Eckhardt
>I have another question on this. In books on warship markings,
>you often find references to "ortho" film.
>Colour shades are distorted by this type of film.
>For example, I have a black and white picture of the
>hospital ship USS Mecy taken with ortho film. The red
>crosses are indistinguisable in tone from the green stripes
>on the hull.
>Lots of WWII ship pictures seem to have been taken with this type of
>film, although official USN photographers apparently did not use it.
>What is it and why was it used?
Orthochromatic file was an early black and white film that had essentially
no response to red light. (That's why the movies always portray a darkroom
safelight as a red light, although in the real world they were all kinds of
colors).
It was replaced by panchromatic film, which does have red sensitivity.
(Pan film requires a REAL dark green safelight, I always just worked it
completely in the dark in my darkroom)
Ortho film was cheaper than pan film and easier to process (you can see
what you are doing). Also, there are situations
when the odd color response is what you want (aerial photography, etc.).
As time went on and pan film became cheaper ortho film essentially faded away.
I suspect you'd be hard pressed to find it today without checking the specialty
photo suppliers.
>I was never on a WESTPAC, but weren't the US-3s a Squadron, rather than
>ship asset. I understand that the US-3As havew been (or are being)
>retired.
They were assigned to VRC-50.
Mike Weeks MIC...@aol.com
: > The Salt Lake City .....Slave Labor Camp
: Were you on the SLC? If so, when? I had a buddy that transferred to her
: after I got out of the Navy. Dan Perkins QMC(SS) ring a bell? This was
: in the early to mid 80's.
: BlackBeard
: -. .- -..- --.-
: De Profundis
No, actually I was on the Greenling (Green-pig, Greenthing)....but that
was the only name that came to mind when I say the thread.