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simi...@juno.com

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Dec 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/28/96
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Does anyone know Where the Texas (CGN-39) is at in mothballs and the
history of it's de-commishioning? Help Appreciated. to be used on Texas
Web Page
http://members.tripod.com/~simiwest/texas.htm

thanx in advance!
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SeaPhoto

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Dec 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/29/96
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<<Does anyone know Where the Texas (CGN-39) is at in mothballs and the
history of it's de-commishioning? Help Appreciated. to be used on Texas
Web Page >>

Last time I saw the Texas (CGN-39) was at Bremerton, October 1994, where
she had been cut down to the waterline, as well as having lost roughly 1/3
of the aft portion of the ship. There is no chance of this ship coming
back into service.

Kurt
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Douglas R. Ventura

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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simi...@juno.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone know Where the Texas (CGN-39) is at in mothballs and the
> history of it's de-commishioning? Help Appreciated. to be used on Texas
> Web Page
> http://members.tripod.com/~simiwest/texas.htm
>
> thanx in advance!
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She was supposed to be refueled and get the New Threat Upgrade mods, similar to those given to Belknap, Leahy
Kidd, and California Class...but she got caught up in some fleet reduction program. I recall this decision to
have been made in the 1st quarter of CY93....I saw her in Bremerton in early spring '93 with no search or FCS
radars...

Doug

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Donald J. Shelton

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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I have photos of her, Long Beach, Virginia, and a bunch of submarines
on my PSNS homepage. All photos are less than a year old.

Photo's include a dry dock full of sails, on of which belongs to USS
Jack. Now I hate to see the old boats getting cut up, but TWICE we
got extended on patrol because Jack could not get underway.

http://rampages.onramp.net/~djs

don


In article <8517494...@dejanews.com>, simi...@juno.com wrote:
>Does anyone know Where the Texas (CGN-39) is at in mothballs and the
>history of it's de-commishioning? Help Appreciated. to be used on
Texas
>Web Page
>http://members.tripod.com/~simiwest/texas.htm
>
>thanx in advance!
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====-----------------------
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SS United States and Puget Sound Naval Shipyard Pages.

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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Thank you, Don for a great service to all the sailors of all these old
ships you have placed on your beautiful web pages. I appreciate it
and I know all the others do, too. Seeing the Holland (AS-32) again
after all these years brings back fond memories. She served us all
very well. Great site, fine photos....Thanks

Larry (former ET1, USS Everglades AD-24)
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Charleston, SC - stripped of our Navy but not of our memories!
What a shame.....(:-{

Larry lakeotes

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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The Texas is a barge that is waiting to be disposed of. She has been
cut down to the waterline and awaits transportation upriver to Idaho to
be dropped in a hole.

Larry

Andrew Toppan

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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Larry lakeotes reshaped the electrons to say:

> The Texas is a barge that is waiting to be disposed of. She has been
> cut down to the waterline and awaits transportation upriver to Idaho to
> be dropped in a hole.

I really doubt that the whole hull has been cut down to the (original)
waterline. This would result in loss of structural integrity; the ship
would break up. And the ship will not be taken to Idaho--just the
reactor. Getting anything large onto the Hanford reservation is quite
hard--reactors are nearly impossible to get onto the site, due to an
extremely steep hill right near the barge-unloading pier. You could never
get a ship up there.

Back when the Shippingport commercial reactor was taken out there, someone
published a photo of 5 enormous trucks struggling to haul the platform on
which the reactor vessel was secured up the hill. They had started with
one truck, found it insufficient, then summoned another, and another, and
another, until 5 of the beasts finally hauled the thing up the hill at a
slow walking pace.

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Donald J. Shelton

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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I have recent photo's of her on my PSNS page.

don

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el...@WPI.EDU (Andrew Toppan) wrote:
>Larry lakeotes reshaped the electrons to say:
>> The Texas is a barge that is waiting to be disposed of. She has
been
>> cut down to the waterline and awaits transportation upriver to
Idaho to
>> be dropped in a hole.
>
>I really doubt that the whole hull has been cut down to the
(original)
>waterline. This would result in loss of structural integrity; the
ship
>would break up.

Donald J. Shelton +-+ d...@onramp.net +-+ K5VCZ +-+ Garland, TX

Phillips, III J.A.

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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How big is Texas' reactor? Ive seen Burlington Northern move sub
reactors by rail through the PNW (they look like a giant, aerodynamic,
stainless steel hockey puck if youre wondering). If Texas' arent too
oversized, you might be able to haul them in by rail.

73s,
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Andrew Toppan

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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Having looked at the photos, I can say that the idea that she was "cut
down to the waterline" is rubbish. She's been cut down to the weather
deck, just like Virginia and Long Beach. Perhaps she's chopped way
down aft, but most of the hull is intact.

Phillips, III J.A.

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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The engineer I was with said they were reactors. There were other cars
which I believed held cores/rods. A lot of the stuff getting cut up at
PSNS (in the way of subs) is very old, and I would surmise, probably a
bit smaller than average. Id post a scan but my Umax is down :(

Andrew Toppan

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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Phillips, III J.A. reshaped the electrons to say:

> How big is Texas' reactor? Ive seen Burlington Northern move sub
> reactors by rail through the PNW (they look like a giant, aerodynamic,
> stainless steel hockey puck if youre wondering). If Texas' arent too
> oversized, you might be able to haul them in by rail.

Are you sure those were reactor vessels, not the rector cores (fuel)?
I've seen some pics of submarine reactor vessels, and they're quite large;
hardly something you would move by rail. And I know the old reactors
are being _barged_ up the river for disposal.

William L. Thomas

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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In <5bdj11$7...@bigboote.WPI.EDU> el...@WPI.EDU (Andrew Toppan) writes:
>
>Having looked at the photos, I can say that the idea that she was "cut
>down to the waterline" is rubbish. She's been cut down to the weather
>deck, just like Virginia and Long Beach. Perhaps she's chopped way
>down aft, but most of the hull is intact.

Down to the weather deck and about one hundred feet lopped off the
stern. Truxton has been cut down to the weather deck and the two
reactor compartments, plus whatever space is between them. The other
two are as above, soon to be joined by the Arkansas.

Bill Thomas

William L. Thomas

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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In <32DA60...@ix.netcom.com> "Phillips, III J.A."

<Whst...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
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>The engineer I was with said they were reactors. There were other cars

>which I believed held cores/rods. A lot of the stuff getting cut up at

>PSNS (in the way of subs) is very old, and I would surmise, probably a

>bit smaller than average. Id post a scan but my Umax is down :(

They are M-130 railway cars. They contain fuel modules only. The
reactor vessels, etc. are still inside the capped reactor compartments.
The reactor compartments are barged to Hanford, as was said before....

Bill Thomas

Andrew Toppan

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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William L. Thomas reshaped the electrons to say:

> reactor compartments, plus whatever space is between them. The other
> two are as above, soon to be joined by the Arkansas.

But Mississippi and Bainbridge will join much sooner...

Brad Meyer

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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In message <5bdof7$1...@bigboote.WPI.EDU> - el...@WPI.EDU (Andrew Toppan) writes
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>
>
>Are you sure those were reactor vessels, not the rector cores (fuel)?
>I've seen some pics of submarine reactor vessels, and they're quite large;
>hardly something you would move by rail. And I know the old reactors
>are being _barged_ up the river for disposal.
>
The S3G, S5W, and D1G vessels were certainly small enough to go by rail. The
C1W plant was some bigger (I think is was about the samr size as the A1W
vessels in the Enterprise) and might not have. The vessels on the Eisenhower
were huge and I don't think they would fit in the R&R right of way. Those are
the only plants I worked around and made RX compartment entries on. I assume
the newer sub plants and CGN plants were larger but have no first hand
knoweldge.


Brad Meyer

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