Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)
Scout
> Scout wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>
>>> Where do the cases come from.
>>
>> Lots of sources, legal ranges, illegal ranges, other criminals.
>
> There are no illegal ranges, and the legal ones no longer shoot
> pistols.
Which means anyone shooting a pistol at any target is at an illegal gun
range.
Yet, we are suppose to believe that NO ONE has EVER use a pistol to fire at
a target in the UK, since doing so was made illegal.
Sorry, but you've made to many false assertions for anyone to blindly accept
another blanket assertion from you.
> One assume the other criminals need to restore their supplies as
> well...
> Nope, no ammunition...
That's not what the police say, but hey since when do your assertions have
anything to do with reality?
Anyway, since it seems that you are simply here to lie to me, there is no
point in continueing to read this message. Try again when you can at least
show some effort to try to stick to the truth.
<snip>
William Black
> William Black wrote:
>> Scout wrote:
>>> William Black wrote:
>>>> Where do the cases come from.
>>> Lots of sources, legal ranges, illegal ranges, other criminals.
>> There are no illegal ranges, and the legal ones no longer shoot
>> pistols.
>
> Which means anyone shooting a pistol at any target is at an illegal gun
> range.
No.
> Yet, we are suppose to believe that NO ONE has EVER use a pistol to fire at
> a target in the UK, since doing so was made illegal.
The police and army have ranges.
You're welcome to try and gain access and practice pistol shooting.
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
Scout
> Scout wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>> Where do the cases come from.
>>>> Lots of sources, legal ranges, illegal ranges, other criminals.
>>> There are no illegal ranges, and the legal ones no longer shoot
>>> pistols.
>>
>> Which means anyone shooting a pistol at any target is at an illegal
>> gun range.
>
> No.
Denial will not alter the facts.
>> Yet, we are suppose to believe that NO ONE has EVER use a pistol to
>> fire at a target in the UK, since doing so was made illegal.
>
> The police and army have ranges.
I accept the correction and further accept your admission you were once
again wrong in your assertions. At least you've admitted it this time, so
that's a point in your favor.
William Black
Sophistry.
Do you usually argue like a spoiled child?
You know what I mean, scoring silly points by taking comments out of
context.
Scout
> Scout wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>>>> Where do the cases come from.
>>>>>> Lots of sources, legal ranges, illegal ranges, other criminals.
>>>>> There are no illegal ranges, and the legal ones no longer shoot
>>>>> pistols.
>>>> Which means anyone shooting a pistol at any target is at an illegal
>>>> gun range.
>>> No.
>>
>> Denial will not alter the facts.
>>
>>
>>>> Yet, we are suppose to believe that NO ONE has EVER use a pistol to
>>>> fire at a target in the UK, since doing so was made illegal.
>>> The police and army have ranges.
>>
>> I accept the correction and further accept your admission you were
>> once again wrong in your assertions. At least you've admitted it
>> this time, so that's a point in your favor.
>>
>
> Sophistry.
Nope, simple observation of your statements.
You said "and the legal ones no longer shoot pistols" followed by "The
police and army have ranges"
Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges, your first
statement is proven to be false by your second statement.
William Black
> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges, your first
> statement is proven to be false by your second statement.
It's still sophistry.
You claim that is isn't hard to get access to a range and that there are
illegal ranges are the deranged maundering of a diseased mind.
SaPeIsMa
"William Black" <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hhb04s$tu8$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Scout wrote:
>
>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges, your
>> first statement is proven to be false by your second statement.
>
> It's still sophistry.
>
> You claim that is isn't hard to get access to a range and that there are
> illegal ranges are the deranged maundering of a diseased mind.
>
Apparently for willie-boi any rational argument proving he's been caught in
a lie is "sophistry"
Must be the "England" version of the meaning of that word
http://m-w.com/dictionary/sophistry defines it as:
1 : subtly deceptive reasoning or argumentation
There is NOTHING either subtle or depeptive in the argument that Scout
presented
On the other hand YOUR orignial claim does qualify
Scout
> Scout wrote:
>
>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>> your first statement is proven to be false by your second statement.
>
> It's still sophistry.
You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out legal
ranges that do allow pistols.
How is pointing out that you are contradicting yourself a matter of
sophistry?
What's the matter?
You don't like your lying hypocracy pointed out to you?
Then maybe you should stop lying and being a hypocrite.
Scout
Actually his latest claims are as well. I never said it wasn't hard, and to
claim that no illegal gun is ever shot at a target.....
well, what can I say?
William Black
> William Black wrote:
>> Scout wrote:
>>
>>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>>> your first statement is proven to be false by your second statement.
>> It's still sophistry.
>
> You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out legal
> ranges that do allow pistols.
>
SaPeIsMa
> Scout wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>>>> your first statement is proven to be false by your second statement.
>>> It's still sophistry.
>>
>> You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out
>> legal ranges that do allow pistols.
>>
> There is no public access to police ranges.
>
Your attempt to move the goalposts is noted
RD (The Sandman)
> Scout wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>>>> your first statement is proven to be false by your second
>>>> statement.
>>> It's still sophistry.
>>
>> You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out
>> legal ranges that do allow pistols.
>>
> There is no public access to police ranges.
>
>
Here it depends on the range. Some are shared, some are not.
--
Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?
William Black
> William Black <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
> news:hhcp04$1tg$5...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> Scout wrote:
>>> William Black wrote:
>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>>>>> your first statement is proven to be false by your second
>>>>> statement.
>>>> It's still sophistry.
>>> You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out
>>> legal ranges that do allow pistols.
>>>
>> There is no public access to police ranges.
>>
>>
>
> Here it depends on the range. Some are shared, some are not.
>
Here some thirty five years ago I shot on a shared range, but the cops
stopped going there to shoot because we kept laughing at them...
Mind you, West Yorkshire Police always were something of a laughing
stock...
RD (The Sandman)
@news.eternal-september.org:
> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>> William Black <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:hhcp04$1tg$5...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>>>>>> your first statement is proven to be false by your second
>>>>>> statement.
>>>>> It's still sophistry.
>>>> You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out
>>>> legal ranges that do allow pistols.
>>>>
>>> There is no public access to police ranges.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Here it depends on the range. Some are shared, some are not.
>>
>
> Here some thirty five years ago I shot on a shared range, but the cops
> stopped going there to shoot because we kept laughing at them...
Many outshoot the police but we don't laugh at them. Something about
their ability to retaliate. ;)
> Mind you, West Yorkshire Police always were something of a laughing
> stock...
>
>
--
Bruce Bartho
> William Black <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
> news:hhcp04$1tg$5...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>
>>Scout wrote:
>>
>>>William Black wrote:
>>>
>>>>Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>>>>>your first statement is proven to be false by your second
>>>>>statement.
>>>>
>>>>It's still sophistry.
>>>
>>>You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out
>>>legal ranges that do allow pistols.
>>>
>>
>>There is no public access to police ranges.
> Here it depends on the range. Some are shared, some are not.
Willie B lied!
There are SEVERAL In and Outdoor ranges in the UK where Citizens can
shoot "pistols."
I spent a second to look, and found MANY on the internet!
William Black is a pathetic liar, AND an idiot!
Bruce Bartho
> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>
>> William Black <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:hhcp04$1tg$5...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>>>>>> your first statement is proven to be false by your second
>>>>>> statement.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's still sophistry.
>>>>
>>>> You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out
>>>> legal ranges that do allow pistols.
>>>>
>>> There is no public access to police ranges.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Here it depends on the range. Some are shared, some are not.
> Here some thirty five years ago I shot on a shared range, but the cops
> stopped going there to shoot because we kept laughing at them...
Liar!
They laughed at you, because you kept being a moron!
You are a twinky, Willy B.
Name that Range you "shared."
> Mind you, West Yorkshire Police always were something of a laughing
> stock...
And YOU are the reason why YOU are not allowed to have a firearm!
William Black
> William Black wrote:
> They laughed at you, because you kept being a moron!
> You are a twinky, Willy B.
>
> Name that Range you "shared."
Knostrop.
Now a housing development, but at that time the Yorkshire 'county'
pistol range.
>
>
>> Mind you, West Yorkshire Police always were something of a laughing
>> stock...
>
>
> And YOU are the reason why YOU are not allowed to have a firearm!
I am allowed firearms, I even have a license.
So far you have not shown that you have ever fired a shot, or even
claimed to have done so.
So, what do you shoot, and where?
Because the impression you give is of a child of twelve.
William Black
> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>
>> William Black <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:hhcp04$1tg$5...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>>>>>> your first statement is proven to be false by your second
>>>>>> statement.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's still sophistry.
>>>>
>>>> You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out
>>>> legal ranges that do allow pistols.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is no public access to police ranges.
>
>> Here it depends on the range. Some are shared, some are not.
>
>
> Willie B lied!
> There are SEVERAL In and Outdoor ranges in the UK where Citizens can
> shoot "pistols."
Do tell.
Bruce Bartho
> Bruce Bartho wrote:
>
>> William Black wrote:
>
>
>> They laughed at you, because you kept being a moron!
>> You are a twinky, Willy B.
>>
>> Name that Range you "shared."
> Knostrop.
>
> Now a housing development, but at that time the Yorkshire 'county'
> pistol range.
Liar.
>>> Mind you, West Yorkshire Police always were something of a laughing
>>> stock...
>> And YOU are the reason why YOU are not allowed to have a firearm!
>
>
> I am allowed firearms, I even have a license.
Liar.
>
> So far you have not shown that you have ever fired a shot, or even
> claimed to have done so.
>
> So, what do you shoot, and where?
>
> Because the impression you give is of a child of twelve.
I get to shoot all of my firearms (.22's, .38, .30 carbine, 9mm, 40mm,
.45. 45 wimmag, AND my plethora of rifles, in any and all in or outdoor
ranges. just miles from where I live, here in NJ.
YOU are a liar, as there are several ranges in the UK where some of you
sheeple CAN shoot "Pistols."
Stop being an idiot, Lil Willy!
Bruce Bartho
> Bruce Bartho wrote:
>
>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>>
>>> William Black <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
>>> news:hhcp04$1tg$5...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>>>>>>> your first statement is proven to be false by your second
>>>>>>> statement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's still sophistry.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out
>>>>> legal ranges that do allow pistols.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no public access to police ranges.
>>
>>
>>> Here it depends on the range. Some are shared, some are not.
>>
>>
>>
>> Willie B lied!
>> There are SEVERAL In and Outdoor ranges in the UK where Citizens can
>> shoot "pistols."
> Do tell.
Ever heard of the INTERNET?
I found five in ten seconds!
I thought YOU said that YOU were an expert and won awards?
William Black
> William Black wrote:
>
>> Bruce Bartho wrote:
>>
>>> William Black wrote:
>>
>>
>>> They laughed at you, because you kept being a moron!
>>> You are a twinky, Willy B.
>>>
>>> Name that Range you "shared."
>
>> Knostrop.
>>
>> Now a housing development, but at that time the Yorkshire 'county'
>> pistol range.
>
>
> Liar.
>
Googling 'Knostrop range' will get you several hits.
William Black
>
> I get to shoot all of my firearms (.22's, .38, .30 carbine, 9mm, 40mm,
> .45. 45 wimmag, AND my plethora of rifles, in any and all in or outdoor
> ranges. just miles from where I live, here in NJ.
>
Liar.
You're a 12 year old child using your father's computer.
Scout
> Scout wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since the police and military both shoot pistols at their ranges,
>>>> your first statement is proven to be false by your second
>>>> statement. It's still sophistry.
>>
>> You said, the legal ranges don't allow pistols. Then you pointed out
>> legal ranges that do allow pistols.
>>
> There is no public access to police ranges.
Irrelevent. You say that no legal ranges allowed pistols. Period.
You lied.
Because police ranges DO.
That they aren't open to the public was not a condition of your claim.
Scout
> Bruce Bartho wrote:
>
>>
>> I get to shoot all of my firearms (.22's, .38, .30 carbine, 9mm,
>> 40mm, .45. 45 wimmag, AND my plethora of rifles, in any and all in
>> or outdoor ranges. just miles from where I live, here in NJ.
>>
> Liar.
>
> You're a 12 year old child using your father's computer.
Present your evidence, or shall we simply accept you are lying yet again?
Scout
> Bruce Bartho wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce Bartho wrote:
>>>
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> They laughed at you, because you kept being a moron!
>>>> You are a twinky, Willy B.
>>>>
>>>> Name that Range you "shared."
>>
>>> Knostrop.
>>>
>>> Now a housing development, but at that time the Yorkshire 'county'
>>> pistol range.
>>
>>
>> Liar.
>>
> Prove it.
>
> Googling 'Knostrop range' will get you several hits.
several = one.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Knostrop%20range%22
Further if you go to that one link and follow it to this range.....seems to
still be there. I thought you told us it was now a housing development?
However, let's consider for a second that the google map shown is out of
date.
I really don't think you would put a housing development in the area of
heavy industry, and you really won't want to put it between a
scrap-yard/recycling center, and a major sewage treatment plant.
Now be honest here, you really didn't ever shoot there did you? You just
looked up a range, got the mistaken idea it was converted to housing and ran
with it thinking no one would ever actually check up, and now you have been
caught in what appears to be yet another lie.
Fred J. McCall
:William Black wrote:
:> Scout wrote:
:>> William Black wrote:
:>
:>>> Where do the cases come from.
:>>
:>> Lots of sources, legal ranges, illegal ranges, other criminals.
:>
:> There are no illegal ranges, and the legal ones no longer shoot
:> pistols.
:
:Which means anyone shooting a pistol at any target is at an illegal gun
:range.
:
Unless you're military or police with a firearms certificate, yeah.
:
:Yet, we are suppose to believe that NO ONE has EVER use a pistol to fire at
:a target in the UK, since doing so was made illegal.
:
:Sorry, but you've made to many false assertions for anyone to blindly accept
:another blanket assertion from you.
:
Have you looked at a map of England? Just where do you think they're
shooting at where no one would notice?
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
William Black
This point has been made repeatedly to him and his mates.
I live in the most rural county in England.
It's almost impossible to get out of sight of a dwelling.
City based thugs looking for somewhere for some quiet target practise
are going to end up wandering about in places where they'll get noticed,
and they very rarely do.
There are schemes like Rural Watch and Farm Watch that keep a look out
for people who don't belong...
Turn up in a rural area in the UK that's off the tourist track and
you'll get noticed.
Richard Casady
<fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Have you looked at a map of England? Just where do you think they're
>shooting at where no one would notice?
Indoors. You only need a tunnel a foot in diameter for nearly all of
it.
Casady
Jack Linthicum
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:47:41 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>
> >Have you looked at a map of England? Just where do you think they're
> >shooting at where no one would notice?
>
> Indoors. You only need a tunnel a foot in diameter for nearly all of
> it.
>
> Casady
Okay, then, 3 million foot-wide tunnels should not bring any notice.
Or one million and sharing. No one will notice. Like the guy selling
ammo.
Richard Casady
<fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>So you propose to build an indoor range secretly? No one will notice
>the construction?
Thats what indoors means. Secret tunnels are more difficult in a POW
camp but that didn't stop some people.
Casady
Scout
> Bruce Bartho wrote:
>
>>
>> I get to shoot all of my firearms (.22's, .38, .30 carbine, 9mm,
>> 40mm, .45. 45 wimmag, AND my plethora of rifles, in any and all in
>> or outdoor ranges. just miles from where I live, here in NJ.
>>
> Liar.
>
> You're a 12 year old child using your father's computer.
Present your evidence, or shall we simply accept you are lying yet again?
Scout
> Bruce Bartho wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce Bartho wrote:
>>>
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> They laughed at you, because you kept being a moron!
>>>> You are a twinky, Willy B.
>>>>
>>>> Name that Range you "shared."
>>
>>> Knostrop.
>>>
>>> Now a housing development, but at that time the Yorkshire 'county'
>>> pistol range.
>>
>>
>> Liar.
>>
> Prove it.
>
> Googling 'Knostrop range' will get you several hits.
several = one.
frank
Use the old tunnels left by all the little people. God knows there
ain't a pot of gold left in the place. OK, except in the Tower of
London. Or hire short Welsh miners. Real short ones.
Jack Linthicum
Menehunes, Hawaii's economy is going to hell.